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Hitman
06-30-2003, 06:38 PM
Hey, I agree that finding another Nowitzki is going to be hard, but Dickie V sounds awfully bitter that the international game is taking away from his beloved college hoops.
He talks about Frederic Weiss, but not about the many many American flops in the past 10 years. The thing that teams love about the Euros is that they are technically sound and wise beyond their years, but Dick V fails to realize this.

By Dick Vitale
SPECIAL TO ESPN.COM


INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS in NBA DRAFT | June 27

Is it time to change the name of the NBA to the GBA? Really, should we change it from National Basketball Association to Global Basketball Association?

Globalization is the magical term now. In this year's NBA draft, one key theme was the international player. The influx of foreign imports has taken over the headlines, and it has people going absolutely bananas. A record eight international players were selected in the first round of the 2003 NBA draft (and a record 20 overall).


NBA teams are searching overseas in hopes of finding another Dirk Nowitzki.
Every team is dreaming about Dirk Nowitzki. The Dallas Mavericks' versatile 7-footer is a special player capable of getting it done inside and outside.

Remember this, many of these international players drafted high up don't have that much experience. They are drafted on potential because they're so young, 18 or 19 years old, and because of an individual workout. But these guys haven't gotten the job done night in and night out, 30-35 times a season, like a college player in America.

You heard the magical word "upside" so many times on Thursday night. What about some downside? I know most people won't agree with me, but see me in three years when we'll have the real evaluation of these draft picks. I feel we will see a backlash involving the foreign players. I believe there will be a number of flops, with several guys unable to endure the long term of an NBA season. It is certainly different than the pressures of playing abroad.

It's definitely a dilemma. NBA scouts and administrators often look for and find the warts of our college players because they see them so often. They search for and talk about their negatives. Think about analyzing guys like Nick Collison, Dwyane Wade, T.J. Ford, Jarvis Hayes, Kirk Hinrich, Reece Gaines, etc. Scouts have seen them so many times over the course of a season and during their college careers, and often people don't spend enough time looking at the positives.

I'm glad that many of the imports have taken their game to a higher level. I've often said that 1992 was an important year for international basketball because the U.S. Olympic Dream Team set a standard that others went to work to achieve. There's no question that several have come here to become factors.

However, people don't say much about the guys like Frederic Weis, who was a top-15 selection of the New York Knicks. The next pick in the draft turned out to be a pretty good one: Ron Artest. I was glad to see that NBA teams didn't forget about college guys like Collison, Hinrich, Troy Bell, David West, Josh Howard and Brian Cook in the first round. They can succeed at the next level, baby!

I just have a funny gut feeling that many of these foreign guys will struggle to make the adjustment to the NBA, the league that features the best of the best, the creme de la creme

mavsfanforever
06-30-2003, 06:42 PM
here's what Chad ford's take was on this


Jasmin(Atl): Why does Dick Vitale hate foreign players? He even criticized Darko going 2nd.

Chad Ford: People in general are wary of the unknown. Until Dick and other media members start traveling over there and experience first hand what these kids are doing, they aren't going to understand. It boggles my mind that you can hate players you've never seen. That's what we've tried to do at Insider this year. Give the fan an Inside, more informed, look at these international kids. It's not about hyping them. Just getting the information out.

Chicago JK
06-30-2003, 06:45 PM
a couple of points first:
1) I really like Dickie V
2) I have no idea how good these foreign kids will become.

Dick has always hyped up the college senior. A few years ago, the NBA was going to rue the day for not picking Shane Battier number 1. Shane is a solid player, but NBA GM's made the right choice on him. In Fact, he probably went a little too early. Last year's college seniors were a collective bust with exception to pick number 23, Ty Prince. Hailslip, Fred Jones, Frank Williams, Ely, Dixon (played pretty well, but limited long term), and Dickeau. Not a sterling class Dickie V. I am sure some of the euros will be bigtime busts, but that does not prove that college seniors are better investments. College basketball and pro basketball are completely different games. Just because you excel in one doesn't mean you will shine in the other.

TripleDipping
07-01-2003, 08:50 AM
Is it time to change the name of the NBA to the GBA? Really, should we change it from National Basketball Association to Global Basketball Association?

Hey dumbass Vitale, aren't the NBA champions also known as the "world champions"?

Mav_Man1
07-01-2003, 09:10 AM
What a load of crap by Dickie V.
The comment that these guys don't perform
night in night out is BS. Most of these
guys have been playing professionaly since
age 15-16. They play in poor conditions in
many of these countries, often wondering if
there will be a paycheck from some poorly
managed team.

The FACT is that if you are talking about
15 to 20 of these Euros out of a league with
200 players. These guys are fundamently sound
and the top 10% of their respective leagues.

They also arent' caught up in the plague
of "my stuff don't stink" and "look at my posse".
Ther are very mature for their age and they play
"TEAM" ball. They hustle and most of all they
respect their coaches.

the College player of today need to borrow
from thier playbook and start focusing on the
fundamentals or the invasion will continue.



......there I fell better now.

u2sarajevo
07-01-2003, 10:04 AM
I liked Vitale in the beginning. His schtick was funny the first year. But now, it is very tired. His crusade against Euro players is beating me into submission. I am sick of his flap-trap going on about it.