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Dirkenstien
12-12-2003, 01:34 AM
Dallas trades: SF Antawn Jamison (14.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.2 minutes)
PG Tony Delk (8.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.3 minutes)
Dallas receives: PF Chris Mihm (7.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.2 minutes)
C Lorenzen Wright (10.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.3 minutes)
SF Bo Outlaw (4.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.2 ppg, +7.7 rpg, and +0.3 apg.

Cleveland trades: C Zydrunas Illgauskas (16.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 32.8 minutes)
PF Chris Mihm (7.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.2 minutes)
Cleveland receives: SF Antawn Jamison (14.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 19 games)
PG Tony Delk (8.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.8 apg in 14 games)
C Jake Tsakalidis (6.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10 games)
Change in team outlook: +4.9 ppg, -0.8 rpg, and +0.4 apg.

Memphis trades: C Lorenzen Wright (10.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.3 minutes)
SF Bo Outlaw (4.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.1 minutes)
C Jake Tsakalidis (6.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.0 minutes)
Memphis receives: C Zydrunas Illgauskas (16.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 19 games)
Change in team outlook: -5.1 ppg, -6.9 rpg, and -0.7 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Reasons for teams to do this.

Dallas: We lose out on Jamison but get the size and skill down low that we need in Mihm and Wright, along with a defensive, grunge player in Bo Outlaw ti keep the 3 spot semi deep.l

Cleveland: Lose out on some size in Mihm and Illgauskas but is semi replaced with Jake Tsakalidis at 7'2" 290 as well as a great and classy nba talent in Jamison to work aside Lebron James. Together these two guys are a bit scary

Memphis: Memphis would do this to finally upgrade their talent and size at the 5 in Illgauskas while also freeing up the log jam at the three a bit in dealing Outlaw out of town.

Each team benefits from this without having to give up too much...I like this a lot for Dallas and it looks pretty good to the other teams.

Simon2
12-12-2003, 08:10 AM
Interesting trade. Dallas gets two big guys in Wright and Mihm. I'm not sure Cleveland is too excited to trade Mihm or Z. Besides, Cleveland already has Darius Miles at SF so why would they want Jamison? I'm might consider it if I were Dallas because of the big people but I doubt Cleveland and Memphis do this trade.

LRB
12-12-2003, 09:29 AM
Outlaw is trash. But I'd do the trade to get Mihm and Wright. But would Cleveland do it? It seems like they're giving up too much and getting too little. Jamison really doesn't fill a need for them. With Memphis it's marginal. If they're really high on Big Z I can see them doing it.

But if I was Nellie and had this deal offered, I'd take it most definitely. I just don't see it as being likely to be accepted elsewhere.

Dirkenstien
12-12-2003, 10:45 AM
Well Im sure that Cleveland would consider other possibilities..but all in all how many teams will offer all star talent as well as a replacement in size down low while at the same time giving them the point guard that they are in desparate need right now in one trade. Illguskas trade value may be as high as it will ever be right now, making a decision to be made on whether Cleveland management wants to capatilize on this.

This trade i.m.o. would put them in great position to make a playoff run. D Miles is not living up to expectation and right now is coming off of the bench for christ sake, Ricky Davis could stay with them but this trade sets them up to make a future trade if need be. Simply put, it is hard to find NBA talent with the lack of baggage on them such as Jamison portrays...i think Cleveland would definitely jump on it after weighing the pros to cons.

uberfan
12-12-2003, 11:12 AM
I like it.

kg_veteran
12-12-2003, 11:46 AM
I'd probably do this.

Dirkenstien
12-12-2003, 01:53 PM
How could anyone say no to it? Its perfect..we get what we need in two big centers who can rebound and play some tough D with a 10 minute per game role player in Outlaw. The other teams involved upgrade and get better as well so at the end of the day everyone is happy and better suited for success than they previously were.

Dirkenstien
12-12-2003, 02:41 PM
We would look like this:

c: Mihm/Bradley/Wright
p/f: Dirk/Fortson/Najera
s/f: Walker/Howard / Outlaw
s/g: Finley/ Daniels
p/g: Nash/ Best

damn, that lineup is so darn pretty it just brings a tear to my eye. It would be hard as hell for Nellie to play small ball with this lineup and we finally get that tough defensive/rebounding crew at the 5 that we need.

Jamisonite
12-12-2003, 03:18 PM
How about this?

Dallas trades: PG Tony Delk (8.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.3 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.7 minutes)
SF Antawn Jamison (14.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.2 minutes)
Dallas receives: SF Bo Outlaw (4.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.1 minutes)
SF Shane Battier (10.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 25.6 minutes)
C Lorenzen Wright (10.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.3 minutes)
PF Chris Mihm (7.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +7.0 ppg, +8.3 rpg, and +1.1 apg.

Memphis trades: SF Bo Outlaw (4.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.1 minutes)
PF Stromile Swift (8.9 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.9 minutes)
SF Shane Battier (10.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 25.6 minutes)
C Lorenzen Wright (10.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.3 minutes)
C Jake Tsakilidis
Memphis receives: PG Tony Delk (8.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.8 apg in 14 games)
SF Darius Miles (9.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 19 games)
C Zydrunas Illgauskas (16.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 19 games)
Change in team outlook: -0.4 ppg, -4.7 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Cleveland trades: SF Darius Miles (9.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 27.6 minutes)
PF Chris Mihm (7.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.2 minutes)
C Zydrunas Illgauskas (16.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 32.8 minutes)
Cleveland receives: SF Eduardo Najera (3.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19 games)
SF Antawn Jamison (14.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 19 games)
PF Stromile Swift (8.9 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 14 games)
C Jake Tsakilidis
Change in team outlook: -6.6 ppg, -3.6 rpg, and -2.5 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

LRB
12-12-2003, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by: Jamisonite
How about this?

Dallas trades: PG Tony Delk (8.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.3 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.7 minutes)
SF Antawn Jamison (14.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.2 minutes)
Dallas receives: SF Bo Outlaw (4.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.1 minutes)
SF Shane Battier (10.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 25.6 minutes)
C Lorenzen Wright (10.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.3 minutes)
PF Chris Mihm (7.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +7.0 ppg, +8.3 rpg, and +1.1 apg.

Memphis trades: SF Bo Outlaw (4.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.1 minutes)
PF Stromile Swift (8.9 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.9 minutes)
SF Shane Battier (10.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 25.6 minutes)
C Lorenzen Wright (10.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.3 minutes)
Memphis receives: PG Tony Delk (8.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.8 apg in 14 games)
SF Darius Miles (9.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 19 games)
C Zydrunas Illgauskas (16.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 19 games)
Change in team outlook: -0.4 ppg, -4.7 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Cleveland trades: SF Darius Miles (9.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 27.6 minutes)
PF Chris Mihm (7.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.2 minutes)
C Zydrunas Illgauskas (16.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 32.8 minutes)
Cleveland receives: SF Eduardo Najera (3.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19 games)
SF Antawn Jamison (14.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 19 games)
PF Stromile Swift (8.9 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 14 games)
Change in team outlook: -6.6 ppg, -3.6 rpg, and -2.5 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

As Dallas I'm fine with this. But Cleveland seems to be giving up a lot of bigs without getting any back.

Jamisonite
12-12-2003, 03:30 PM
i edited it...clev is now geting tsakilidis...it works

Dirkenstien
12-12-2003, 03:36 PM
I like that trade too Jamisonite..if Memphis would bite on it then i would definately prefer that one over my original one. Im not sure if Memphis would want to trade away Battier though

Dirkenstien
12-13-2003, 07:17 PM
a trade like this is looking more and more enticing