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MavsFanFinley
12-21-2003, 11:00 PM
Karl Malone sprains right knee

December 21, 2003

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Lakers forward Karl Malone sprained his right knee in the opening four minutes against the Phoenix Suns on Sunday night, causing him to leave the game for good.

With the Lakers trailing 9-2, Malone fell to the floor and grabbed his knee after being fouled by Scott Williams.

After a brief delay, Malone made one of two free throws, but left 10 seconds later, walking to the locker room.

A team spokesman said X-rays didn't reveal any damage, but Malone will have an MRI exam Monday.

Malone, the NBA's second-leading career scorer behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, has missed only 11 games in his career -- six due to injuries or illness and five because of suspensions.

The 40-year-old Malone joined the Lakers as a free agent last summer after 18 seasons with the Utah Jazz.

Max Power
12-21-2003, 11:03 PM
Please let it be season ending, please let it be season ending. I hate Malone SOOO much.

OzMavs
12-21-2003, 11:32 PM
Usually, I would say bad luck, hope he gets better soon. But not this worthless thug. I hope they operate with a rusty knife and septiceamia or tetanus sets in.

Nash13
12-22-2003, 12:57 AM
Rape Case + Sprained Toe + Sprained Knee + Loud Mouth = all the symptoms of a melt down.

The league is better without you Malone.

Peja_owns
12-22-2003, 01:12 AM
Please let it be season ending, please let it be season ending. I hate Malone SOOO much.

Thats just sad. As much as I hate some players, I would NEVER, NEVER wish for an injury to end their season on career.

Max Power
12-22-2003, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by: Peja_owns

Please let it be season ending, please let it be season ending. I hate Malone SOOO much.

Thats just sad. As much as I hate some players, I would NEVER, NEVER wish for an injury to end their season on career.

There is exactly ONE player in the NBA on whom I would wish harm. And that's Malone. Judge if you will but Malone has tried to intentionally hurt Dirk MANY times during games with excessive contact.

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 04:45 AM
http://www.nba.com/media/suns/williams_bench_hp.jpg

Hero.

MavKikiNYC
12-22-2003, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by: Max Power

Originally posted by: Peja_owns

Please let it be season ending, please let it be season ending. I hate Malone SOOO much.

Thats just sad. As much as I hate some players, I would NEVER, NEVER wish for an injury to end their season on career.

There is exactly ONE player in the NBA on whom I would wish harm. And that's Malone. Judge if you will but Malone has tried to intentionally hurt Dirk MANY times during games with excessive contact.

OTOH, you could just as easily be wishing for harm to CuNellie for not signing Malone. That way he'd have been dishing out pain for the Mavierkcs instad of TO the Mavericks.

Or at the very least, wish for some enforcers to guard what seem to be Dirk's Incredible Shrinking Jewels.

Shaq Attack2
12-22-2003, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous
http://www.nba.com/media/suns/williams_bench_hp.jpg

Hero.

LMAO!

Simon2
12-22-2003, 08:31 AM
We can only hope its season ending. Then Malone gets frustrated on the bench and becomes a problem in the locker room. That would be sweet.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 10:18 AM
What a bunch of pathetic losers on this board.

Props to you Peja_owns for showing some class, you should have seen the tears flow last year when Dirk went down.

What a bunch of hypocrites.

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 10:24 AM
Good point wayOutwest... if someone took out Manu Ginobli's knee I would literally create a shrine for them in my home.

Nash13
12-22-2003, 12:18 PM
WayOutWest, this isn't hypocitical, it's poetic justice. Everyone witness Malone trying to take out Nash on National Television.

Malone gets no sympathy votes from me.

PS- I wouldn't like it if he played dirty had he been signed to the Mavs.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by: Nash13
WayOutWest, this isn't hypocitical, it's poetic justice. Everyone witness Malone trying to take out Nash on National Television.

Malone gets no sympathy votes from me.

PS- I wouldn't like it if he played dirty had he been signed to the Mavs.

If you think that's poetic justice than you don't have a clue. Poetic justice would be a Bradley/Fortson elbow to Karl, Kobe or Payton (Shaq's not on the list because that would be suicide for your entire team).

Hoping/cheering for player injuries is weak and for LOSERS no matter how you try and justify it!

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: Nash13
WayOutWest, this isn't hypocitical, it's poetic justice. Everyone witness Malone trying to take out Nash on National Television.

Malone gets no sympathy votes from me.

PS- I wouldn't like it if he played dirty had he been signed to the Mavs.

If you think that's poetic justice than you don't have a clue. Poetic justice would be a Bradley/Fortson elbow to Karl, Kobe or Payton (Shaq's not on the list because that would be suicide for your entire team).

Hoping/cheering for player injuries is weak and for LOSERS no matter how you try and justify it!

Well... I wish he would have been kicked out of the league.... but that hasn't happened and won't happen... so we have to take what we can get.

How do you justify rooting for a team that condones what Malone did to Nash?

Nash13
12-22-2003, 12:40 PM
I was never hoping/cheering for him to get injured, but i'm not upset or disappointed that he's injured. I would've cheered if either a Mavs player did it, or he got injured right before a Mavs game, but that's every team. Like last year's WCF, Spurs fans were cheering when Dirk got injured.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous

How do you justify rooting for a team that condones what Malone did to Nash?

I don't have to cause justify it because I root for a class organization like the Lakers.

The Lakers don't condone what he did nor do they condone the elbow being shown again on the jumbotron.

Now you're just reaching.

Max Power
12-22-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by: WayOutWest
If you think that's poetic justice than you don't have a clue. Poetic justice would be a Bradley/Fortson elbow to Karl, Kobe or Payton (Shaq's not on the list because that would be suicide for your entire team).

Hoping/cheering for player injuries is weak and for LOSERS no matter how you try and justify it!

Certain players do not deserve common courtesy because of previous actions. Malone is a cheap shot artist who has tried to hurt many players throughout his career. In fact, only a LOSER would support such a player being in the league.

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous

How do you justify rooting for a team that condones what Malone did to Nash?

I don't have to cause justify it because I root for a class organization like the Lakers.

The Lakers don't condone what he did nor do they condone the elbow being shown again on the jumbotron.

Now you're just reaching.

They never condemned it. Phil Jackson said that Malone needed to be protected from guys like Nash raking his arms. Shaq said something to the effect that nash deserved it. Malone acted as if Nash was fragile because that elbow he laid in his face hurt him.

The Lakers organization brought a player in that is known to be dirty -- Malone. So how do you justify rooting for them and condemn us for saying that what happened to Malone was justice?

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by: Max Power

Originally posted by: WayOutWest
If you think that's poetic justice than you don't have a clue. Poetic justice would be a Bradley/Fortson elbow to Karl, Kobe or Payton (Shaq's not on the list because that would be suicide for your entire team).

Hoping/cheering for player injuries is weak and for LOSERS no matter how you try and justify it!

Certain players do not deserve common courtesy because of previous actions. Malone is a cheap shot artist who has tried to hurt many players throughout his career. In fact, only a LOSER would support such a player being in the league.

If Malone should have been kicked out of the league then it should have been a long time ago, probably after the Isiah incident. I would be more than happy to see Malone not play another game ever again but that's not up to me and I'm not going to sink to the level of hoping for an injury.

Just a buch of crybaby fans whinning about it ONLY because it happened to one of Mavs. Didn't hear one single peep out of anyone when he was doing his damage to the Kings, you guys probably cheered it. Where was the outrage when Howard was on the Mavs team and he was taking guys out?

Hypocrites!

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous

Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous

How do you justify rooting for a team that condones what Malone did to Nash?

I don't have to cause justify it because I root for a class organization like the Lakers.

The Lakers don't condone what he did nor do they condone the elbow being shown again on the jumbotron.

Now you're just reaching.

They never condemned it. Phil Jackson said that Malone needed to be protected from guys like Nash raking his arms. Shaq said something to the effect that nash deserved it. Malone acted as if Nash was fragile because that elbow he laid in his face hurt him.

The Lakers organization brought a player in that is known to be dirty -- Malone. So how do you justify rooting for them and condemn us for saying that what happened to Malone was justice?


So now it's that they didn't condem it? Keep reaching. This is just silly coming from fans of the Mavs. Fans that are now whinning they don't have Malone and how dumb Nellie and Cube's were for not trying harder.

I think Malone is dirty and the biggest cheap shot artist I've ever seen and I'm not at all thrilled at the prospect of him winning a ring with the Lakers. In respect to having one player justifing wether or not to root/support a team, didn't the precious Mavs employ Dennis Rodman? Lakers have made some poor choices with Rodman, Rider and now Malone, but they still continue to be a class act second ONLY to the Spurs in terms of class and second only to the Celtics in terms of success.

LOL! I just realized that Rodman player for the Spurs as well!!!!! At least I still have my Clippers!!!!!!

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 01:33 PM
Howard didn't "take people out". lol If you are talking about the Derek Anderson incident that guy takes himself out of every playoff series.

One thing I do not mind though is "bullying a bully" or playing dirty against a dirty team or player. Then it is justified. But Malone is the initiator.

You are being hypocritical to condemn us WayOutWest and then to support a team that is known to be dirty. What about that shot Shaq laid on Dirk in the last game? And the Malone incident? And Kobe elbowed Raja Bell in the face right after that too. If that isn't condoning Malones actions I don't know what is.

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 01:45 PM
If this isn't condoning it WayOutWest... then what is it?



"The way things have changed, they can take the whole salary. Just let me play," Malone said after Saturday's practice. "I'll tell you this . . . I'm not going to stop playing the way I play. That's my space, and if I get the rebound, you're not getting the ball from me.

"I don't go out and try to hurt anybody, but that is my space. I'm going to play the way I normally play. I would like to tell you guys that this is the only one I'll get while I'm playing here, but probably not."

In Thursday's victory against Dallas, Nash missed a layup and Malone got the rebound. As Malone held the ball aloft, Nash reached in to attempt a steal but failed. Malone turned and an elbow hit Nash in the mouth, splitting his lip.

"If a guy challenges you, you go out and play your game," Malone said. "But I never go out to hurt a guy."

Not even Lakers coach Phil Jackson had much sympathy for Nash or any other player who attempts to challenge post players for a rebound.

He has seen this type of action before from the league office when Shaquille O'Neal used his elbows in similar situations.

"I think Karl has some people in the league office that are looking closely at him because of past offenses," Jackson said. "That's been my beef about protecting rebounders. The refs let Nash come across with his arm and that started it. That stuff starts and the guy with the ball wants to protect the basketball and so he does it.

"We've gotten away from protecting the rebounders, then guys get hit across the face, across the eyes and so forth. The (post) guys have to protect themselves, and if a guard sticks his nose in there, he better beware."

O'Neal also didn't have a lot of pity for Nash, who required two stitches in his lower lip.

"The way these guys flop and act, it looks like Karl threw an elbow," O'Neal said. "Karl's not that kind of player. However, you are not going to get the ball from us when we have it like this (high up). Steve Nash was dumb enough to stick his teeth in there."

Sunday's game would have been the first time Malone had faced his former team. Now he won't get the chance until the Lakers travel to Utah on Jan. 24. The delay, Malone hinted, gives the NBA a chance to hype the game.

Max Power
12-22-2003, 01:50 PM
God, Shaq HAS to be the dumbest player in the history of the NBA. "The way these guys flop and act, it looks like Karl threw an elbow," O'Neal said. "Karl's not that kind of player." Karl's not the kind of player who would throw an elbow? OMG!

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 02:03 PM
Why don't you take WayOutwest's side Max Power. Being on your side makes me look bad.

Nash13
12-22-2003, 02:19 PM
If you think Shaq, Malone, and Payton are class acts, then you've got some serious problems. That's like me saying Michael Ray Richardson is a good influence on kids. The last thing the Lakers are are class acts.

And if you think this board is the only board that's happy that Malone's injured, then you haven't visited Kings, Spurs, or Timberwolves boards.

Max Power
12-22-2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous
Why don't you take WayOutwest's side Max Power. Being on your side makes me look bad.

Actually YOU are on MY side. I was the first person to respond in this thread.

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by: Max Power

Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous
Why don't you take WayOutwest's side Max Power. Being on your side makes me look bad.

Actually YOU are on MY side. I was the first person to respond in this thread.

Either way... you aren't helping the cause. If you believe in the cause you would help it by not partciipating. So do me that favor, would you?

Max Power
12-22-2003, 02:36 PM
>IF< I thought you could win an argument then I would gladly let you have the point. Unfortunately you do not have that ability.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous
Howard didn't "take people out". lol If you are talking about the Derek Anderson incident that guy takes himself out of every playoff series.

LOL! You may be right but at the time he was their second leading scorer and their answer to Kobe. DA was a very good slasher off TD pases, similar role that Kobe players although Kobe does ALOT more than he did it was the Spurs 2nd option that got taken out and the Spurs fans just couldn't stop talking about "what if's".


One thing I do not mind though is "bullying a bully" or playing dirty against a dirty team or player. Then it is justified. But Malone is the initiator.

I completely agree with you. If a Mavs player knocked Malone on his arse and you guys cheered that no problem, payback is part of the game. If Malone were to get hurt because of the payback then too bad for Malone that's what can happen but I wouldn't celebrate an injury in that regard either. If Nash would have missed games because of that injury you wouldn't catch me cheering, I can't say the same for others cause I know there are dipshyte Laker fans that would have cheered that as well.


You are being hypocritical to condemn us WayOutWest and then to support a team that is known to be dirty. What about that shot Shaq laid on Dirk in the last game? And the Malone incident? And Kobe elbowed Raja Bell in the face right after that too. If that isn't condoning Malones actions I don't know what is.

The Lakers have NEVER been known to be dirty. Pistons and Knicks have been dirty in the past and the Lakers and Celtics have pushed the line but I don't think they've crossed it as an organization. The Shaq foul was NOT a flagrant let alone dirty. I've watched that play several times, and even some Mavs fans agree, it was not as bad as initially thought. I've said over and over what my opinion of Malone is, he's one of the dirties players I've ever seen and the biggest cheap shot artist in the buisness. I don't think for a second that Kobe or Shaq are dirty. If you want to call Kobe and Shaq dirty for their play than throw Fin, Dirk, Walker, Bradley and Fortson in to the "dirty" catagory as well, they've all caught people with elbows as well.

Max Power
12-22-2003, 02:47 PM
The Lakers have never had a cheap shot artist on their team before - the worst that could be said about some of the players was that they were extremely physical (Kareem's elbows were NASTY). But Malone TRIES to hurt players.

The correct way to retaliate against a bully type like Malone is NOT against him, it is to go after one of his teammates. Get somebody to put a serious hurt on Kobe as payback.

BTW the flagrant against Shaq on Dirk was questionable at best.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by: Max Power
God, Shaq HAS to be the dumbest player in the history of the NBA. "The way these guys flop and act, it looks like Karl threw an elbow," O'Neal said. "Karl's not that kind of player." Karl's not the kind of player who would throw an elbow? OMG!

LOL! Shaq checked his brain at the door. Shaq's always respected Malone for some reason, I don't know why. When Shaq was a rookie he was interviewed and told that Karl got a look at him and said he "wasn't impressed". Shaq just smiled and said "that's okay, he's the man right now but in a couple of years I'll be the man". First time Shaq visited Salt Lake he brought down the entire basket structure, not just the rim but all the metal support and framming, on his first shot and caused a 25 minute delay. When asked what his thougths were of Stockton and Malone not deserving to be HOF'ers because they didn't win a ring according to sportswriters, Shaq said he would punch them in the mouth if they said that to him.

Maybe Karl did the Jedi mind trick on Shaq.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by: Nash13
If you think Shaq, Malone, and Payton are class acts, then you've got some serious problems. That's like me saying Michael Ray Richardson is a good influence on kids. The last thing the Lakers are are class acts.

And if you think this board is the only board that's happy that Malone's injured, then you haven't visited Kings, Spurs, or Timberwolves boards.

Who said any of that kid? You''ve got some serious problems with reading comprehension.

Keep reaching for the stars! i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous
Why don't you take WayOutwest's side Max Power. Being on your side makes me look bad.

LOL!

Actually if Max Power keeps quoting Shaq I made switch sides as well.

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous
Why don't you take WayOutwest's side Max Power. Being on your side makes me look bad.

LOL!

Actually if Max Power keeps quoting Shaq I made switch sides as well.


I posted that quote.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by: Max Power
The correct way to retaliate against a bully type like Malone is NOT against him, it is to go after one of his teammates. Get somebody to put a serious hurt on Kobe as payback.

Exactly, get old school! Old school for me being the 80's. Lakers, Celtics, Hawks, Philly and Detriot knew how to payback with interest.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous

Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous
Why don't you take WayOutwest's side Max Power. Being on your side makes me look bad.

LOL!

Actually if Max Power keeps quoting Shaq I made switch sides as well.


I posted that quote.

Yes but MaxPower drove the point home with his "Karl's not the kind of player who would throw an elbow? OMG!" comment. That's like the crane style from "Karate Kid 1". No can defend!

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 03:05 PM
So you agree then? You are a hypocrite?

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 03:08 PM
Crap, now I'm confused!

I think the point was Shaq couldn't out-coach a bunch of tooth-less Canadians with their elbows tied behind their backs in an ebonics spelling bee....right?

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 03:11 PM
Crap, now I'm confused!

Yep... you were right... you and Max Power are definately on the same page now.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous
Yep... you were right... you and Max Power are definately on the same page now.


Originally posted by: Max Power
>IF< I thought you could win an argument then I would gladly let you have the point. Unfortunately you do not have that ability.

Agreed.

Max Power
12-22-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: Max Power
The correct way to retaliate against a bully type like Malone is NOT against him, it is to go after one of his teammates. Get somebody to put a serious hurt on Kobe as payback.

Exactly, get old school! Old school for me being the 80's. Lakers, Celtics, Hawks, Philly and Detriot knew how to payback with interest.

The 80's basketball was the best ever. The teams back then could score AND defend. Now it seems like teams do one or the other well but not both. The talent base was incredible back then too - the first eight spots of almost every playoff team were solid. And there were CENTERS in the league, not power forwards playing out of position.

Ahh the good old days.

dirno2000
12-22-2003, 03:52 PM
The 80's basketball was the best ever. The teams back then could score AND defend. Now it seems like teams do one or the other well but not both. The talent base was incredible back then too - the first eight spots of almost every playoff team were solid. And there were CENTERS in the league, not power forwards playing out of position.

Ahh the good old days.

I generally agree. The downside of that is there were a lot of brawls, especially in the playoffs. Hard to argue that this was good for the game.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by: dirno2000

The 80's basketball was the best ever. The teams back then could score AND defend. Now it seems like teams do one or the other well but not both. The talent base was incredible back then too - the first eight spots of almost every playoff team were solid. And there were CENTERS in the league, not power forwards playing out of position.

Ahh the good old days.

I generally agree. The downside of that is there were a lot of brawls, especially in the playoffs. Hard to argue that this was good for the game.

I think that was more of a Pistons/Knicks era type of thing, very late 80's to early 90's.

ReDIRKulous
12-22-2003, 04:11 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031222/capt.las10812220548.suns_lakers_malone_las108.jpg http://www.nba.com/media/suns/williams_bench_hp.jpg

dirno2000
12-22-2003, 04:11 PM
No, as I remeber it fighting was in full force throughout the 80's. If I remember correcty, there was a big brawl during the Celtic/Rockets series. I also remember the Greg Kite mauling of Worthy that erupted into a free for all. As I watch classic sports, I'm suprised at some of the things they got away with without being tossed.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by: dirno2000
No, as I remeber it fighting was in full force throughout the 80's. If I remember correcty, there was a big brawl during the Celtic/Rockets series. I also remember the Greg Kite mauling of Worthy that erupted into a free for all. As I watch classic sports, I'm suprised at some of the things they got away with without being tossed.

I hear ya.

I remeber the McHale clothsline of Kurt Rambis that resulted in Kupchack putting the hurt on Parish.

Your right, there were some pretty nasty brawls back then as well but basketball has not been as good as it was in the 80's.

dirno2000
12-22-2003, 04:30 PM
EL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- Karl Malone, one of professional sports' true iron men, will miss at least three games because of a sprained ligament in his right knee.


The 40-year-old Malone had an MRI examination Monday morning that revealed the news -- much better than it could have been.


"It is good news. I think it's really good news," Lakers coach Phil Jackson said after practice. "We have to look at it that way."


Lakers spokesman John Black said Malone will be re-evaluated next Monday by doctor Steve Lombardo, who performed the MRI at the Kerlin-Jobe/HealthSouth Orthopedic Clinic.


Malone, the NBA's second leading career scorer, was injured in the first four minutes of Sunday night's 107-101 victory over Phoenix when he was fouled by Scott Williams.


Malone said afterward he heard something pop.


Malone has played in 1,458 regular-season games while missing only 11 -- six because of injury or illness, and five due to suspension. He'll add to that total starting Tuesday night when the Lakers play at Golden State.


Malone will also miss the Lakers' game on Christmas Day against Houston and Sunday night's contest against Boston. Both will be played at Staples Center.


Malone is averaging 14.0 points, 9.5 rebounds and 3.7 assists in 24 games this season -- his first with the Lakers. Malone played his first 18 NBA seasons with the Utah Jazz.


"We're just happy that it's not too serious," teammate Kobe Bryant said. "We have to have guys come off the bench and make significant contributions."

Nash13
12-22-2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: Nash13
If you think Shaq, Malone, and Payton are class acts, then you've got some serious problems. That's like me saying Michael Ray Richardson is a good influence on kids. The last thing the Lakers are are class acts.

And if you think this board is the only board that's happy that Malone's injured, then you haven't visited Kings, Spurs, or Timberwolves boards.

Who said any of that kid? You''ve got some serious problems with reading comprehension.

Keep reaching for the stars! i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

It was you that said the Lakers organization was a class act, Kid.

WayOutWest
12-22-2003, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by: Nash13

Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: Nash13
If you think Shaq, Malone, and Payton are class acts, then you've got some serious problems. That's like me saying Michael Ray Richardson is a good influence on kids. The last thing the Lakers are are class acts.

And if you think this board is the only board that's happy that Malone's injured, then you haven't visited Kings, Spurs, or Timberwolves boards.

Who said any of that kid? You''ve got some serious problems with reading comprehension.

Keep reaching for the stars! i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

It was you that said the Lakers organization was a class act, Kid.

Exactly! The Lakers organization!

There's alot more to the Lakers organization than the players you mentioned, even durring my time. Just like there's more to the Mavs organization than Cuban and thier lack of playoff success.

If you're stupid enough to compare those players to a guy with a cocaine problem that got bounced from the league, then there really isn't a point to discussing basketball with you anymore.

Where did I even mention fans of other teams?

Like I said, you're reaching and getting off the point because you can't debate the points in the discussion.

I think I'm done with you.

Max Power
12-22-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by: WayOutWest
Exactly! The Lakers organization!

There's alot more to the Lakers organization than the players you mentioned, even durring my time.

Gotta agree with WOW here. You can't define an organization by the actions of ONE player - especially a player who has been with the team a few short months. That would be like saying that the Mavs coddle druggies because Don Carter gave Tarpley a great contract despite having two strikes against him.

The only time you can throw out blanket statements like that is when the action permeates the organization. For example, the Piston teams that won championships were a group of thugs. The organization accepted that label and wore it with pride.

Nash13
12-22-2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by: WayOutWest
Exactly! The Lakers organization!

There's alot more to the Lakers organization than the players you mentioned, even durring my time. Just like there's more to the Mavs organization than Cuban and thier lack of playoff success.

If you're stupid enough to compare those players to a guy with a cocaine problem that got bounced from the league, then there really isn't a point to discussing basketball with you anymore.



Like I said, you're reaching and getting off the point because you can't debate the points in the discussion.

I think I'm done with you.

Ok, name two class acts in the Lakers organization. Is it the Shaq that runs his mouth, the Kobe who's on trial for rape soon, the Malone that knocks people around, the Payton that can't keep his trap shut and was convicted of assault at a Toronto strip club, the Phil Jackson who agreed with what Malone did to Nash, the Tex Winters that follows Jackson around, the Horace Grant who was booted by the Magic last season for constant arguing with coaching staff and players, or just the entire organization who keeps replaying a malicious and intentional elbow that split someone's lip.



Where did I even mention fans of other teams?

You criticized members of this board for cheering Malone's injury, so i pointed out that this isn't the only board that's cheered his injury. Why don't you try going to another board and see their reactions. And please, take your time.

MightyToine
12-22-2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous

How do you justify rooting for a team that condones what Malone did to Nash?

I don't have to cause justify it because I root for a class organization like the Lakers.

The Lakers don't condone what he did nor do they condone the elbow being shown again on the jumbotron.

Now you're just reaching.

Class organization....Lakers??????????????????????????

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHH AHHHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND SADDAM HUSSEIN IS A SAINT!!!!!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

WayOutWest
12-23-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by: MightyToine

Originally posted by: WayOutWest

Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous

How do you justify rooting for a team that condones what Malone did to Nash?

I don't have to cause justify it because I root for a class organization like the Lakers.

The Lakers don't condone what he did nor do they condone the elbow being shown again on the jumbotron.

Now you're just reaching.

Class organization....Lakers??????????????????????????

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHH AHHHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND SADDAM HUSSEIN IS A SAINT!!!!!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!


Comparring Saddam and the Lakers? Boy are you clueless, time to ingnore your dumb arse.

OutletPass
01-01-2004, 12:57 AM
--- From Espn reports...at appears that Malone will be placed on IR and will be out until about Jan 15.

OutletPass
01-01-2004, 01:13 AM
Originally posted my MightyToine:


BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHAH HHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

--Great post...absolutely brilliant; thourough and incisive; it covers EVERYTHING. . The best, most articulate, and most important post of 2003. An absolute "Guru" post....

And I thought that you couldn't outdo calling people "Fudgepackers and Fairies.

Go Girl !!!!!!

OutletPass
01-01-2004, 01:14 AM

Simon2
01-01-2004, 10:48 AM

sike
01-01-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by: OutletPass
Originally posted my MightyToine:


BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHAH HHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

--Great post...absolutely brilliant; thourough and incisive; it covers EVERYTHING. . The best, most articulate, and most important post of 2003. An absolute "Guru" post....

And I thought that you couldn't outdo calling people "Fudgepackers and Fairies.

Go Girl !!!!!!

some people are so mean!

i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

bernardos70
01-01-2004, 06:52 PM
You know, Malone is just tasting his own medicine, IMO. I'm actually happy he's injured, not because I like him to be injured, but because he's off the court, where he can't really use his elbows so craftily, to do nothing more than to "clear space, not injure other players." I'm happy whenever he's off the court, whether it be due to injury, which is the case here, or by suspension, or otherwise.

Richard
01-05-2004, 10:09 AM
It would be nice if Malone ends his own career before he adds to the list of other players' careers he has ended.

WayOutWest
01-05-2004, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by: Richard
It would be nice if Malone ends his own career before he adds to the list of other players' careers he has ended.

Could you please name one career Malone ended?

Richard
01-05-2004, 10:37 AM
Dave Ramer. See the following:

The Early Years: The Ramer Incident
When Karl Malone was still in college, he threw an elbow that sent Rice center Dave Ramer to the hospital and ended his career.

From the December 6, 1984 Washington Post:

Rice junior center Dave Ramer will undergo reconstructive surgery Friday in Houston to repair multiple injuries suffered in what Coach Tommy Suitts says was an intentional elbowing incident in Monday's game against Louisiana Tech. Ramer has a depressed cheekbone, fractures above and below his right eye socket and a collapsed sinus after the incident involving Louisiana Tech's Karl Malone.

Malone had gone up for a rebound and came down swinging his elbows. Ramer was unfortunate enough to be in the same area code. The blow shattered Ramer's cheekbone, and he went down screaming in pain. Malone just looked at him and walked away. Malone's coach was so appalled by Malone's behavior that he went out on the court and told Malone to go back and show some decency and concern. Let me repeat that for emphasis:

Malone's coach made him go back out on the court and act like he cared.

It was obvious that he didn't. Malone muttered a forced apology, but of course Ramer was in no condition to hear it.

Ramer never played basketball again. Amazingly, instead of going to jail or being sued, Malone went on to the NBA and his career flourished. But he didn't stop sending people to the hospital.

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Lewis Lloyd and the Forehead from Hell
A few years later, in the NBA, Malone struck again in a game against the Rockets in Utah. Lewis Lloyd grabbed a rebound, and as he was falling out of bounds, Malone took a step backwards to deliberately floor him with a malicious elbow. Lloyd got stitches, Malone didn't even get a foul called on him.

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Isaiah Thomas and the 40 Stitch "Lesson"
In December 1991, Isiah Thomas, one of the league's most loved superstars, was driving to the basket and Karl Malone "went for the ball" but somehow managed to hit Isiah's face so hard with an "unintentional" elbow that Thomas had to be carries from the court and required plastic surgery and forty ststches.

Malone was assessed a flagrant foul and given a $10,000 fine and a one-game suspension. Malone, of course, claimed it was an accident and did not mean to hurt Thomas. After the incident, he talked to Isiah and denied the elbow was deliberate and offered no apology.

As Michael Lowe, D.P.M., team podiatrist for the Utah Jazz, remembered it in remarks at the 1996 AAPSM annual meeting:

Isiah Thomas was driving the lane hard to the basket when Karl swatted at the ball but missed and caught Isiah across the eye brow with his elbow. Again the smaller mass paid the price from the 265 lb. Malone. Thomas went down hard to the court. His initial reaction was that he had been shot in the head by some one in the stands. I looked down to see if the Orthopedic Surgeon was going on to the court, he wasn't in his seat, he had gone outside of the court area to answer a page. Isiah was hemorrhaging from the laceration quite badly and was badly dazed from the impact with Karl's elbow. I went down to see if I could help the trainer, since there was general mayhem on the court. I suggested that we put a collar on him and get a back board to carry him off the court. It was at this point that Bill Lambier grabbed me from behind and practically lifted me off the ground by the neck, telling me that Isiah wasn't going to leave the court that way. This was done by shouting about 2 inches away directly into my face. Before I could react from his shove to my chest to get me out of the way, he picked Isiah Thomas up like you would pick up your three year old son, and carried him very carefully into the locker room for further evaluation. It was at about this time the Orthopod showed up. I gladly turned the situation, and Bill Lambier, over to him. Isiah had a lacerated artery across the brow and was bleeding quite profusely. Lambier refused to leave his side. Since Isiah had a poster boy like face, the Orthopedic surgeon elected to have him transported to the hospital for a Plastic Surgeon to do the primary repair. Lambier went with him to the hospital too. That's what I call team support.


Of course, Malone supports his team, too -- only he does it by hurting opponents, not helping his teammates.

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Playboy Interview
Playboy, April 1989, p. 80.

Karl Malone was interviewed in Playboy magazine shortly after the Isiah Thomas incident. Malone said he enjoyed pushing the refs till he got away with something and then pushing to see what he could get away with, and then, when they let him get away with something, he would push again to try to get away with more. He pushed and pushed, and the refs gave and gave, until the league created somone very dangerous. (The choice of the word "dangerous," by the way, is not mine -- it a word chosen by journalists like Eddie Sefko and players like Avery Johnson.)

Yes, the man is talented and an amazing athlete. But he is also a dangerous, arrogant bastard, and without the protection of the refs and the NBA he would never be an MVP, and would probably not be an all-pro.

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Sidney Moncrief

After a game in which Malone sent Atlanta Hawk Sidney Moncrief sprawling,
according to Sports Illustrated, fellow Hawk, Dominique Wilkins stung the
Mailman with a rebuke, to this effect: "You're a cheap-shot artist. You're
not a man. You always go out there to hurt somebody smaller than you."

This would become a recurring theme in Malone's career.

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Donyell Marshall
On April 9, 1998, Karl Malone ended Donyell Marshall's season when an "inadvertant" knee broke Marshall's rib. As poor Donyell lay in agony on the floor, visions of Dave Ramer must have played in Malone's head. But unlike Malone's college coach, Jerry Sloan had no sympathy for the mauled victim. He rushed out on the court to moan at the officials, claiming Marshall had been playing illegal defense. According to the Associated Press:

(AP) -- On Tuesday night, Golden State forward Donyell Marshall broke a rib when he was accidentally kneed by Malone, who scored an NBA season-high 56 points in the game.

The next night, Malone attacked David Robinson.

So that's Malone's secret of success -- win an important game by disabling the opponent's best player, and score a lot of points by injuring the defender! Oh, I misstated it: Marshall broke his own rib (note the use of passive voice in the AP story: "Donyell Marshall broke a rib"), and according to Malone-loving officials, Robinson illegally hit Malone's elbow with his head. I'm surprised they didn't call "3 Seconds" or "Delay of Game" on Robinson, as well, as he lay senseless on the floor!

No wonder so many people hate the Jazz.

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David Robinson's Preview of Wrestlemania
In April of 1998, Malone was suspended yet again for a flagrant elbow. This time, the victim was former MVP and sportsman of the year David Robinson of the San Antonio Spurs. Malone was fined $5,000 and suspended for one game, which, incredibly, ended his streak of consecutive starts at 543. That's right, despite all the vicious elbows and knees he had thrown over the years, the NBA had not suspended Malone since the Isiah incident. Obviously, Malone was feeling entitled. The league would let him get away with anything. Well, almost.

The Utah Jazz clinched the division title with a win over San Antonio that night, thanks to some "heroics" from Karl Malone. According to the Associated Press:

(AP) -- David Robinson was knocked unconscious and suffered a concussion after being hit in the head by Karl Malone's elbow 2 1/2 minutes into Wednesday night's San Antonio-Utah game in which the Jazz beat the Spurs 98-88. Robinson was revived after about two minutes following the first-quarter collision [...] and was escorted from the floor to the locker room. [...] Robinson was guarding Malone near the basket when the Utah forward received a pass from John Stockton. As Malone turned toward the basket, his left elbow caught Robinson on the right side of the head. Robinson immediately dropped to the floor, without breaking his fall with his hands or arms. [...] Robinson was was called for a foul on the play.

Yes, you read that right: Robinson was was called for the foul! As one NBA fan wrote, "This is the NBA, and it's not so important what happened as who did it. If that was J.R. Reid, he'd be back in Europe. But it was the Mailman, so he'll probably get away scot free." The NBA has rules involving elbows; in fact, elbows are mentioned in three different places in the rules, one stating that an elbow which makes contact above shoulder level is grounds for immediate ejection. Of course, this is the NBA and they love Karl Malone, so instead of ejecting Malone, they blamed Robinson for getting in the way. As his
limp body was falling to the floor he was assessed a blocking foul -- evidently it's not legal to hit Malone's flying elbow with your head.

A brilliant bit of strategy by Malone, who seems to confuse the NBA with his beloved pro wrestling and is never corrected by the league. When the game is important enough, put the other team's best player in the hospital!

Watch for Yourself

Was this an "accidental" elbow? Or was Malone practicing for pro wrestling?


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Eddie Sefko of the Houston Chronicle charitably called it a "wild elbow." Avery Johnson said, "He should be suspended. You saw the replay. Two plus two equals four." Of course, only some people saw the replay. Jazz officials refused to allow the replay to be shown in the stadium on the big screens. Obviously, they were afraid that even Jazz fans would turn against Malone. In an ESPN poll, only 29.8% of respondents though it was an accident. Robinson himself forgave Malone, which was very Christian of him, since he seemed to believe the blow was intentional.

On the Clutch BBS, Flapjacker wrote: "I usually feel that anti-Jazzers are the biggest whiners around, but this case is different. [...] David Robinson had reached around to strip a pass to Malone. After the ball had been stripped, Malone did the usual "shooting motion" in order to draw the shooting foul. However, his right hand was still at waist level where Robinson had hacked it, the ball was three feet away, and Malone spun and followed through with "shooting motion" wherein he swung his non-shooting elbow around at head level with full force and smacked Robinson in the back of the head. It's hard to gauge intent, but Malone needs at least a one game suspension for this."

Hakeem Olajuwon said after the incident, "You can go all the way back to college. He's always played that way." Olajuwon was playing for the University of Houston when Rice University center Dave Ramer had his career ended by an "inadvertant" Malone elbow. In that incident, which ended Ramer's career, Malone's coach had to force him to apologize to Ramer as he writhed on the floor in agony.

Malone says he apologized to Robinson after the game. I wonder if Jerry Sloan had to force him.

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Brent Price and Matt Bullard: Pretty White Boys Shouldn't Complain

Houston guard Brent Price accused Malone of attempting to injure him. Batt Bullard

beautician

"I hope he doesn't think I'm pretty."

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The Flopmeister

Hakeem Olajuwon (250 pounds) sends Karl Malone (26 pounds) flying to the floor — apparently, by telekinesis.
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Best Actor -- Karl Malone

I'm not an S/E, so it blows my mind how a 256-pound power forward can be brushed by a 185-pound point guard and go flying 20 feet into the seats or how air molecules can cause a personal foul. Somehow, the Mailman creates such situations and wins the hearts and minds of coddling refs everywhere. He should win more Academy Awards than Jerry Maguire for his tremendous performance this past year.

Eddie Johnson said, " He's been flailing his whole career. That's why he's always at the foul line. He's falling on the floor, flailing his arms."

Brent Price said, "They [Stockton and Malone] are both pretty good actors. They might want to go to Hollywood adfter their careers." Price, 6'1" and listed charitably at 190 pounds, continued, "Look at my size. I can't really knock Karl Malone down, I don't think, even if I was going full speed and he was just standing there."

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Malone pretends not to notice as blood spews from Suns center Joe Kleine's face after another “accidental” elbow from Malone. (Click for larger image)

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Joe Kleine: "He Needed a Little Plastic Surgery"
On April 27, 1999, yet another player had to be carried from the court needing plastic surgery after a run in with Malone. Fortunately, this time Malone only broke Joe Kleine's nose.

The AP reported the incident:

SUNS ENHANCE THEIR PLAYOFF CHANCES WITH ROUGH WIN AT UTAH

(AP) - Jason Kidd was so ill, he felt like throwing up on the court. Joe Kleine's nose was so battered, he needed plastic surgery after the game. But after beating the Utah Jazz on their home floor, the Phoenix Suns never felt better. Kidd had 19 points, 12 assists and seven rebounds as the revved-up Suns, spurred by a series of physical confrontations with Karl Malone, beat the Jazz, 99-85, Monday night. Utah lost at home for just the third time this season, while the Suns, who still have a shot at the fifth playoff seed in the West, won their third straight and ninth in their last 12. Phoenix ended up winning the war even though Kleine -- who had his face bloodied and his lip split by a Malone elbow -- looked like a casualty. "Joe's getting plastic surgery right now," his coach Danny Ainge said afterward. "It's all right. He needed a little plastic surgery."

At least Danny could laugh about it. Joe was in the hospital.

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The Tag team of Shawn Bradley and Don Nelson

On Thursday, January 6, 2000,

1/6/2000 Shawn Bradley left the game midway through the 3rd quarter with an abdominal contusion after being kneed by Karl Malone, but returned to action in the 4th quarter.


The next day, the NBA fined Don Nelson $10,000 and suspended him for 1 game for bumping the ref and his confrontation with Karl Malone following his ejection in Thursday's game vs Utah where he was complaing about Malone kneeing Shawn Bradley. Malone was also fined $10,000 for the confrontation with Nelson and for throwing an elbow at Bradley earlier in the game.
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Flying Knees and "Kick Jumpers"

A typical Malone “accidental kick.” (Click for larger image)

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Karl Malone is a specialist. Just as he knows how to trick the NBA's laughable officials into calling a foul on the other guy by falling down, he has learned how to punch, kick, knee, and elbow players without being called for a foul himself.
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Watch any utah game. People are scared of him. It amazes me how malone gets so many fouls called, yet many people are afraid to get near him. And who can blame them? What makes the malone elbow so dangerous is how he throws it. It is simliar to a bear clawing a human. It would not be so bad if malone threw a regular elbow, but malone's elbows are really more like punches, with the joint taking the place of the fist. You can see him wind his arm back (or forward I guess) to build up more force when he throws it. How can he say that is then unintentional? What is he trying to do when he "sets up" his elbow? check to see if he's wearing deodorant?

Peter May, columnist for the Boston Globe, noted that "Shawn Bradley was called for a technical after getting kicked in the stomach on one of Malone's 'kick jumpers.' Bladley crumpled to the floor in pain. Said the Mailman, 'When a Volkswagen hits an 18-wheeler, what's the result going to be?'"


Even NBA superstar Hakeem Olajuwon gets no quarter. After slamming his knee into Olajuwon, Malone was not assessed a foul. It was deemed “accidental.” (Click for larger image)


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Mike Fine, sports writer for the Partriot ledger, wrote: "Is anybody else tired of hearing about Karl malone's 'inadvertant elbows'?"

In hockey, you can get a major penalty for a high stick, regardless of whether you meant it or not. You can get worse punishment for clear intent to injure, but you just can't have your stick near people's faces. Period. Same thing in football with chop blocking. Just too dangerous to allow. I don't understand why throwing elbows in basketball, given how strong these guys are, isn't taken more seriously.

Ever the coward, Malone claims all those many, many dangerous knees, kicks, and elbows are "accidents." But remember, this is the same coward that waited until Othella Harrington -- who is almost as big as he is -- had his back turned before hitting him in April, 2000.

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NBA Officials: Unindicted Co-Conspirators

Not the refs so much as the league. The pick someone they think they can
market, and they hype him. Of course, it has to be someone talented; Greg
Ostertag could never be a star, but maybe a Clarence Weatherspoon....
give him 20 FT a night and don't call fouls on him, and see how he does in
the all-star balloting... :->

Matt Maloney, after the NBA office called John Stockton to wrn him against throwing more elbows like the one that had nearly smashed maloney's nose in the '97 playoffs, said "It's incredible. At the end of the game. they [the officials] are not going to call illegal picks anyway, so they [the Jazz] are going to set the screens as illegally as they want.

Ironically, the last play of that series had Stockton hitting a wide open three to win it. Why was he so open. Karl malone had set a "pick" on Clyde Drezler that involved literally picking him up and carrying him ten feet. Of course, there was no call on the play. The NBA and its officials have always covered up for their precious karl, just as the little toadies in high school sucked up to the head bully.

Complain to the NBA!

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Another similar incident involved Bill Cartwright breaking a bone in
Hakeem Olajuwon's face several years ago. no one complained about that
because it was OBVIOUSLY an accident, Cartwright did not have a history of
crippling people, and an accident like that was understandable with
Cartwright since he was a bit clumsy. Malone is not. He is quite agile and
quick on his feet. Add that to the

By the way, I personally feel that throwing illegal elbows (called or not)
on a regular basis is dirty, even if it's just to gain an advantage. But
that's just me. Another reason to prefer the college game, I guess.

It's pretty sickening, really. The double-standard in the NBA gets worse
every year. What's really troubling is that many people will believe Malone
when he says it wasn't intentional. Why? Because he does it all the time. I
can't remember a worse incident, but Malone is one of the NBA's worst at
swinging elbows. He's gotten away with it almost every time, so this next
step is excused as well. But look at that replay again and put Askins or
Oakley in Malone's shoes. No way was that "incidental" contact. (Brian Harper)



Malone said after Monday night's incident that it wasn't intentional. "What am I supposed to do, not shoot?" he said.


>So what evidence do you have of the incidents being intentional?

For starters, did you see the elbow he threw later in the game into
Tim Duncan's back? No way that wasn't intentional. As for the
other incident, I'd say the fact that Malone's normal mode of
operation when he gets the ball in a crowd near the basket is to
start swinging his elbows is evidence enough. (Toni Morgan)

Watch any utah game. People are scared of him. It amazes me how
malone gets so many fouls called, yet many people are afraid to get near
him. And who can blame them? What makes the malone elbow so dangerous
is how he throws it. It is simliar to a bear clawing a human. It would
not be so bad if malone threw a regular elbow, but malone's elbows are
really more like punches, with the joint taking the place of the fist.
You can see him wind his arm back(or forward I guess) to build up more
force when he throws it. How can he say that is then unintentional?
What is he trying to do when he "sets up" his elbow? check to see if
he's wearing deodorant?

If stern, thorne, or the league wants to retain its credibility they
need to send this clown a message. My solution may sound rash, but what
else can be done? I think they should suspend malone for the REST OF THE
SEASON, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS. Some may disagree with this, but can we
allow ourselves to tolerate this kind of behavior? And then have him
lie about it after games? (Michael Bearden)





The Jazz as a team has been overly physical for a while. Stern wants to
>> protect the coaches but he better show some concern for the players who
>> actually do combat every day. I mean, come on, first he knocks out Robinson
>> with a very high elbow, then he throws more elbows THE SAME GAME, one to (IMHO)
>> his successor to the best power forward in the game, Tim Duncan. Commissioner
>> Stern correctly tried to send Sprewell packing after attacking PJ then
>> returning to do it again, so lets stop Malone, MVP or not, before he eliminates
>> another superstar before the playoffs.

Earrow wrote: "Don't hold your breath. I haven't seen any evidence in the
>media of anyone calling Malone out for his foul play. Malone is the
>"Magic Bullet" of the NBA. Everyone turns a blind eye to the reality of
>his physics."


And Utah has been one of the "dirtiest" physical teams around for
a while. Malone plays more "thug-ball" than I've seen anywhere...
including some of the blacktop lots in the cities.

I'm constantly amazed as I watch players like Malone and Mourning
get away with some blatantly cheap shots and fouls. But even Mourning
doesn't carry that with him off of the court.

The difference was right there in that San Antonio game. David Robinson
is a physical player, but he plays with respect for his fellow players and
with no intent to injure anybody. He is a great athlete and a great all
around person, IMO.

Malone talks trash at the press, pushes people out of his way and
does whatever it takes on the court to muscle his way to the basket,
even if it means injuring the players around him. He is a jerk, to the
bone.

The Mailman? I don't think so. I think I'd mark that guy "Return to Sender". (Scott Smith)

WayOutWest
01-05-2004, 01:10 PM
I remember Ramer, I don't know what he was projected to do as a pro or if he would even be a pro, so I don't know about ending a career he might never of had.

The other incidents were dispicable but not career enders, although I didn't shed any tears for Isiah because he had it comming as did many Pistons.

I've never liked the guy and don't like him wearing a Laker uniform but what was B!tch Kupcake supposed to do with a gift like that? The Mavs and their fans at the time wanted him as well, and still do for that matter. If you want to see a little payback check out the first quarter of the Lakers/Spurs game at Staples. Karl strips Rose of the ball and as he's reaching for it Rose kicks Malone in the mouth "accidentally". LOL!

dude1394
01-05-2004, 03:20 PM
Pretty good shuffle wow. I think you should just tell richard ok, I get your point. There are not many criminals with that kind of rap sheet.

WayOutWest
01-05-2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by: dude1394
Pretty good shuffle wow. I think you should just tell richard ok, I get your point. There are not many criminals with that kind of rap sheet.

What shuffle would that be? Richard's point was Malone ended careers, so far Richard has pointed out what happened in college, which I was aware of but last I checked college is where you go to prepare for a career, it's not actually a career.

I've stated my opinion of Malone several times on this board before so again, what shuffle would that be?

Male30Dan
01-05-2004, 03:42 PM
How long is this going to continue???

This argument over "Malone is terrible and I hope his season is over" vs. "Damn you for saying that and no he isnt" is getting old...

Been going on for more than two weeks now...

DROP IT!

WayOutWest
01-05-2004, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by: Male22Dan
How long is this going to continue???

This argument over "Malone is terrible and I hope his season is over" vs. "Damn you for saying that and no he isnt" is getting old...

Been going on for more than two weeks now...

DROP IT!

Maybe you should be pointing that out to the person who FORCED you to click on this thread.

Male30Dan
01-05-2004, 04:03 PM
Or, maybe you should let your man-crush for LA Lakers' go, specifically Karl Malone... All I am saying is that it is getting old... I see it at the top for 2 weeks straight and it has NOTHING new in it... Why dont you read all of this pointless arguing... Have you spent your entire dallas-mavs.com time in this thread???

I think enough has been said on this dead moot topic!

WayOutWest
01-05-2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by: Male22Dan
Or, maybe you should let your man-crush for LA Lakers' go, specifically Karl Malone... All I am saying is that it is getting old... I see it at the top for 2 weeks straight and it has NOTHING new in it... Why dont you read all of this pointless arguing... Have you spent your entire dallas-mavs.com time in this thread???

I think enough has been said on this dead moot topic!

Hmmmm....I guess I need to dumb it down for you.

"Maybe you should be pointing that out to the person who FORCED you to click on this thread."

Should read:

"who FORCED you to click on this thread?"

Male30Dan
01-05-2004, 05:01 PM
Oh no, I understood what it meant ass-hole, no need to dumb it down on my account!

I simply am getting tired of seeing it atop the topics TO CLICK ON... Sure, I dont have to enter anything that I dont want to, but I also have the right to let someone know when, IN MY OPINION, the shit is getting old... How many different ways can you say that Max Power was wrong for hoping ill fate on your lover Malone???

Drop it!





Edited to be a bit nicer than I originally was!!!

WayOutWest
01-05-2004, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by: Male22Dan
Oh no, I understood what it meant ass-hole, no need to dumb it down on my account!

I simply am getting tired of seeing it atop the topics TO CLICK ON... Sure, I dont have to enter anything that I dont want to, but I also have the right to let someone know when, IN MY OPINION, the shit is getting old... How many different ways can you say that Max Power was wrong for hoping ill fate on your lover Malone???

Drop it!





Edited to be a bit nicer than I originally was!!!

A poster with the nick Male22Dan posting "man-crush" and "lover" comments in regards to Karl Malone...hmmmm...I get the picture. You're right, I don't want to go there, I'll "Drop it!".

P.S. By "Drop it" I mean this thread NOT the soap mmmmmmmkay Dan..err...MALE22Dan!

Male30Dan
01-05-2004, 05:27 PM
Wow... How intuitive that you might find a way to bash me as opposed to actually admit that your moot comments are getting old... Oh my goodness, my name has MALE in it and I used the words lover and man-crush in a statement... Must mean I have "issues" right???

Get a life prick!!! And come up with some new crap to talk about so that you might actually become useful and helpful in growing this board...

Shaq Attack2
01-05-2004, 06:22 PM
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

WayOutWest
01-05-2004, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by: Shaq Attack2
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

You heard that too huh? I wasn't going to say anything about it cause I didn't want to ruin Malone's reputation. Can you believe a big guy like Malone cried like a little baby when he twisted his "widdle knee". I thought he was tough.