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Chiwas
12-30-2003, 10:10 AM
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More details to come. (I'll buy the newspaper)


Edit: Maybe this belongs to the Trades section if it is just a rumor, but if not......i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif

kg_veteran
12-30-2003, 10:16 AM
We can leave this one here for now, unless another mod disagrees with me...

You've piqued my interest, so let the wild speculation begin. Here are a couple of trades that work under the CBA...

Dallas trades: PF Danny Fortson (3.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.2 apg in 12.0 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Greg Ostertag (7.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.2 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Utah trades: C Greg Ostertag (7.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes)
Utah receives: PF Danny Fortson (3.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.2 apg in 23 games)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
Change in team outlook: -0.2 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and -1.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Dallas trades: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 13.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
C Vladimir Stepania (2.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.0 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +7.7 ppg, +1.1 rpg, and +3.4 apg.

Portland trades: PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
C Vladimir Stepania (2.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.0 minutes)
Portland receives: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 25 games)
Change in team outlook: -7.7 ppg, -1.1 rpg, and -3.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

V
12-30-2003, 10:17 AM
I cant read the text but the title says something like

"trade rumors Najera to Portland or Utah"

Literal translation is "it sounds to exchange of Lalo to Portland or Utah"

Simon2
12-30-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by: V
I cant read the text but the title says something like

"trade rumors Najera to Portland or Utah"

Literal translation is "it sounds to exchange Lala to Portland or Utah"

Sorry for my ignorance. What's Lala? I would love to see this trade happen. Ostertag at least will give Dirk some help at the middle. As usual, he won't end games but he'll help with the dirty work.

Chicago JK
12-30-2003, 10:31 AM
I wouldn't put much faith in this. This writer is known as the hispanic Peter Vesceyi/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif JK

Good find Chiwas. I doubt my 10th grade spanish will help here. So let me know if there is any meat in the article.

sike
12-30-2003, 10:33 AM
Dallas trades: PF Danny Fortson (3.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.2 apg in 12.0 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Greg Ostertag (7.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.2 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Utah trades: C Greg Ostertag (7.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes)
Utah receives: PF Danny Fortson (3.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.2 apg in 23 games)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
Change in team outlook: -0.2 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and -1.4 apg.




I do that deal in a morman minute!

Think of the tandem of Bradley and Ostertag...wow that is a lot of white flesh....

Ostertag is not having a bad rebounding year at all 8.5...

anyone heard anything else on this deal?? is it just crap or is there something to it?

V
12-30-2003, 10:33 AM
I meant Lalo... and I dont know what that means either...

Chiwas, is that a nickname for Eddie?

Chicago JK
12-30-2003, 10:36 AM
[quote]
Originally posted by: kg_veteran
We can leave this one here for now, unless another mod disagrees with me...

You've piqued my interest, so let the wild speculation begin. Here are a couple of trades that work under the CBA...

Dallas trades: PF Danny Fortson (3.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.2 apg in 12.0 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Greg Ostertag (7.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.2 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Utah trades: C Greg Ostertag (7.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 30.9 minutes)
Utah receives: PF Danny Fortson (3.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.2 apg in 23 games)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
Change in team outlook: -0.2 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and -1.4 apg.

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KG, do you think Utah would move O for Najara when Ostertag is in the last year of a contract? Obviously this would be a no brainer if true. Maybe R. Lopez with the development of Arroyo. although I doubt they would move Lopez now. I would take Keon Clark, but I don't know about his health right now. I liked Curtis Borchardt in college, but he is hurt again and looks like an injury waiting to happen. Raja Bell back again? I would move any of those for the current version of Najara. A well Najara fits in perfectly with the Utah hustle players, but I just don't see Utah giving up much to get him.

Good job on the trades though.

SeriousSummer
12-30-2003, 10:41 AM
Lalo is a common nickname for Eduardo. My brother-in-law uses it.

Chiwas
12-30-2003, 10:43 AM
(summarized)

First paragraph: It is still a rumor, not accepted directly by Donnie.

2nd. Mentions the deadline for trades, February 19th, and the possibility to the Blazers.

3rd. Donnie says good things about Najera but can't tell about a trade. (He doesn't say "no")

4th. More good stuff about Najera by Donnie.

5th. Ditto.

6th. "We need more Najera type players". Ditto.

7th. Mentions that the New York Post published about Wallace wanting to leave Portland, and possibly signs with Dallas, in exchange for Najera, Jamison and maybe TAW.

8th. The Desert News of Utah published the possibility about a trade getting Najera.


That's it.

SeriousSummer
12-30-2003, 10:55 AM
This deal works, using as many of the names in the article as possible:

Dallas trades: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.8 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.9 minutes)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +9.9 ppg, -0.3 rpg, and +6.8 apg.

Portland trades: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.8 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.9 minutes)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
Portland receives: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29 games)
Change in team outlook: -9.9 ppg, +0.3 rpg, and -6.8 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED


Portland only does this, however, if Najera can play and TAW can't--so insurance picks up his cost. Jamison would then give Portland a better fit at forward (paired with Randolph), better character, and at half the cost of Wallace.

Blonde Bomber
12-30-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by: SeriousSummer
This deal works, using as many of the names in the article as possible:

Dallas trades: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.8 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.9 minutes)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +9.9 ppg, -0.3 rpg, and +6.8 apg.

Portland trades: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.8 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.9 minutes)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
Portland receives: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29 games)
Change in team outlook: -9.9 ppg, +0.3 rpg, and -6.8 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED


Portland only does this, however, if Najera can play and TAW can't--so insurance picks up his cost. Jamison would then give Portland a better fit at forward (paired with Randolph), better character, and at half the cost of Wallace.


HELLO!!! get that deal done

MavKikiNYC
12-30-2003, 11:05 AM
Wallace comes to Dallas and I'll be rooting for them to go under .500.

sike
12-30-2003, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by: MavKikiNYC
Wallace comes to Dallas and I'll be rooting for them to go under .500.

the hatred of one player would cause you to root against your favorite team.....hummmmmi/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif

TripleDipping
12-30-2003, 11:08 AM
Man, the trade idea for Ostertag bites. Ostertag, to a large degree, is just like Bradley. He can play well in stretches only... we may need him now since Bradley's hurt. When Bradley returns, then what?
The McInnis/Stepania trade interests me more since we need to upgrade our guard play desperately.

Murphy3
12-30-2003, 11:27 AM
Surely the Mavs will not trade Najera?! How will they ever replace the 2.8 defensive rebounds that he averaged last year in 23.0 minutes of play on a very bad defensive rebounding team that gave up alot of FGA's compared to most of the league? Who will dive for a loose ball after the officials have already whistled it out of bounds? Who will Mavs fans overrate if Najera is gone? Who will receive bundles of praise for their hustle from the fans yet receive pretty much no backlash for their inability to figure out where to be on the defensive side entirely too often?

Who will fill these holes? Where will the Mavs find their answers if Najera's gone?

nowitzki_prophecy
12-30-2003, 11:30 AM
Man, the trade idea for Ostertag bites. Ostertag, to a large degree, is just like Bradley. He can play well in stretches only... we may need him now since Bradley's hurt. When Bradley returns, then what?

BS,Ostertag is a great defensive Center,he's 7'2,280 pounds,has great shot blocking abileties(2 a game,3.2 per 48 minutes) and gets his share of rebounds,defensive and offensive(8.5 per game,13.3 per 48 minutes).with Ostertag in the line-up,Dirk moves to the 3-4 spots,and we add a much needed Center.
Im having a hard time seeing the negetive from this deal.

Chiwas
12-30-2003, 11:42 AM
with Ostertag in the line-up,Dirk moves to the 3-4 spots,and we add a much needed Center.
This is why I think the trade of Jamison is good for the Mavs. Dirk would play the 3, would be back dominating the key and letting Walker play the low post. But the Center is needed for this.

SeriousSummer
12-30-2003, 11:47 AM
Who will fill these holes? Where will the Mavs find their answers if Najera's gone?

Marquis Daniels. Or Stefansson (if he develops). Donnie has prepared for every contingency.

Murphy3
12-30-2003, 11:50 AM
SS, I was being very sarcastic. The holes that losing najera creates are easy to fill. Doug Smith available?

SeriousSummer
12-30-2003, 11:52 AM
Murphy,

So was I. I guess I was too subtle. ;/)

Seri

MavKikiNYC
12-30-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by: sike

Originally posted by: MavKikiNYC
Wallace comes to Dallas and I'll be rooting for them to go under .500.

the hatred of one player would cause you to root against your favorite team.....hummmmmi/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif

Absolutely.

My interest in any one team is a function of my interest in/regard for the players on that team, and their ability to play basketball well enough to compete for a championship.

If the Mavericks are looking to up their thug quotient, I'd have been screaming for them to sign Anthony Mason (where IS he btw?). I'd much sooner see them make a run at Kobe Bryant--bigger thug, but bigger talent--than RaWeed Wallass.

Murphy3
12-30-2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by: SeriousSummer
Murphy,

So was I. I guess I was too subtle. ;/)

Seri

I thought you might...but, I don't have a good enough feel for your sense of humor.

Rhylan
12-30-2003, 12:07 PM
Ostertag hasn't been too terrible this year. He has hands of stone, and will frustrate fans almost as much as Shawn.. but at this point, I'd take him. We gotta get somebody on this team other than Dirk, who is taller than 6'9" and can actually play some minutes.

sike
12-30-2003, 12:16 PM
My interest in any one team is a function of my interest in/regard for the players on that team, and their ability to play basketball well enough to compete for a championship.(sounds like your fanship is fairly conditional...whatever...)

If the Mavericks are looking to up their thug quotient, I'd have been screaming for them to sign Anthony Mason (where IS he btw?). I'd much sooner see them make a run at Kobe Bryant--bigger thug, but bigger talent--than RaWeed Wallass.(they have no need of an old man like Mason or a two guard like Bryant....)

jacktruth
12-30-2003, 12:16 PM
The two centers that Karl Malone hates the most:

Bradley and Ostertag.

Murphy3
12-30-2003, 12:18 PM
Bradley and Ostertag would piss alot of people off. It'd actually be a pretty nice two-headed monster at center. I'm sure you could pretty much milk 40+ quality minutes out of them per game

Julius
12-30-2003, 12:54 PM
Chiwas, did you become a Mavs-fan because of Eddie or?
And will you become a Portland or Utah fan?
And will you still be a Mavs-fan if Eddie is gone?

I'm mostly a Mav because of Dirk if he ever will be traded i will follow him for sure. But the Mavs allready have a place in my heard. But then they are only 2nd choise to win the championship.

Do you want the Mavs win it all or Eddies team?

uberfan
12-30-2003, 12:57 PM
Too good to be true, but we can hope. Any minor tweak that breaks the jam of SF/PF types and brings a true C or a solid backup PG is a good move.

kg_veteran
12-30-2003, 01:11 PM
KG, do you think Utah would move O for Najara when Ostertag is in the last year of a contract?

Good question, but the main reason I think they might send Ostertag is that they know he's leaving and don't need the cap room (they had plenty this summer but couldn't turn it into anything).


Maybe R. Lopez with the development of Arroyo. although I doubt they would move Lopez now. I would take Keon Clark, but I don't know about his health right now.

Don't see Lopez coming, and don't want Clark.


I liked Curtis Borchardt in college, but he is hurt again and looks like an injury waiting to happen.

I agree with that.


Raja Bell back again?

If Dallas wanted him, they would have kept him.


I would move any of those for the current version of Najara. A well Najara fits in perfectly with the Utah hustle players, but I just don't see Utah giving up much to get him.

It all depends. The best scenario with Utah is one where they get a couple of "serviceable" players in exchange for a guy who's leaving (Ostertag) as opposed to getting nothing. This, of course, assumes that Ostertag will come to Dallas for the MLE (as opposed to seeking and probably getting more money from another team).

MavsFanFinley
12-30-2003, 01:42 PM
Dallas trades: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 13.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
C Vladimir Stepania (2.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.0 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +7.7 ppg, +1.1 rpg, and +3.4 apg.

Portland trades: PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
C Vladimir Stepania (2.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.0 minutes)
Portland receives: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 25 games)
Change in team outlook: -7.7 ppg, -1.1 rpg, and -3.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

I like this trade better than the Ostertag deal only because I think we can sign him in the off season. I like McInnis as Nash's backup for sure over Best. A Bradley/Stepania/Fortson center rotation is pretty good. Plus, McInnis and Stepania's contracts are short.

kg_veteran
12-30-2003, 01:44 PM
Good point, MFF. I'd be okay with either deal. McInnis is a quality backup PG who would also see time at SG under Nelson.

Chiwas
12-30-2003, 02:27 PM
The Blazers are after Jamison if this is true.

Najera -and TAW- would be only padding to make the deal.

MightyToine
12-30-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by: kg_veteran
Good point, MFF. I'd be okay with either deal. McInnis is a quality backup PG who would also see time at SG under Nelson.




That would be outstanding if we can land McInnis. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

Drbio
12-30-2003, 06:48 PM
Stepania cannot be traded until January 22, 2004.

Drbio
12-30-2003, 06:50 PM
Otherwise.......

Dallas trades: SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29.6 minutes)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29.6 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 13.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.7 minutes)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
C Vladimir Stepania (2.4 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +9.0 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and +5.2 apg.

Portland trades: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.7 minutes)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
C Vladimir Stepania (2.4 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.1 minutes)
Portland receives: SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29 games)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29 games)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 25 games)
Change in team outlook: -9.0 ppg, -1.4 rpg, and -5.2 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to Dallas and Portland being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Dallas and Portland had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Chiwas
12-30-2003, 07:36 PM
Watching the numbers, Portland wouldn't do it.

MikeB
12-31-2003, 12:41 AM
If you really want to thug up the lineup...how about this one?

Dallas trades: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29.6 minutes)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SG Ruben Patterson (7.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 23.0 minutes)
SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.7 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +5.1 ppg, +1.2 rpg, and +3.1 apg.

Portland trades: SG Ruben Patterson (7.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 23.0 minutes)
SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.7 minutes)
Portland receives: SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29 games)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29 games)
Change in team outlook: -5.1 ppg, -1.2 rpg, and -3.1 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

I doubt that Portland would give up McInnis as he is their starting PG...but I heard they are actively seeking to rid themselves of Patterson who would actually help our team out greatly.

nowitzki_prophecy
12-31-2003, 07:29 AM
Sheed brings nothing to the table,and at Dallas,he'll be just another PF playing out of position at Center.
We dont need thuging up,we need a Center to seal the line-up,and move Dirk to his natural position.
Sheed isn't even a good low-post defender,at least not more than Dirk,so all in all,this would be adding ANOTHER offensive threat.
Im kinda frightened me Nellie would think its an opportunity,because not everyday you get the chance to bring a 6'11 shooting forward and match him up with a 7 footer.

dalmations202
12-31-2003, 09:11 AM
Quote by Durbio
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Otherwise.......

Dallas trades: SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29.6 minutes)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29.6 minutes)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.7 minutes)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 13.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.7 minutes)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
C Vladimir Stepania (2.4 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +9.0 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and +5.2 apg.

Portland trades: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.7 minutes)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
C Vladimir Stepania (2.4 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.1 minutes)
Portland receives: SF Antawn Jamison (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29 games)
SF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (15.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 29 games)
SF Eduardo Najera (3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 28 games)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 25 games)
Change in team outlook: -9.0 ppg, -1.4 rpg, and -5.2 apg.

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I like this trade better, and would make it in a heartbeat. Just not sure why Portland would.

Portland trades: C Vladimir Stepania (2.4 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 10.1 minutes)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.3 apg in 32.7 minutes)
SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.7 minutes)
Portland receives: PF Antoine Walker (17.3 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 5.1 apg in 37.7 minutes)
PF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (17.3 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 5.1 apg in 37.7 minutes)
PG Tony Delk (6.1 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 16.4 minutes)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 13.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -4.5 ppg, +0.6 rpg, and -0.8 apg.

Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (17.3 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 5.1 apg in 37.7 minutes)
PF Tariq Abdul-Wahad (17.3 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 5.1 apg in 37.7 minutes)
PG Tony Delk (6.1 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 16.4 minutes)
PG Travis Best (3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 13.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Vladimir Stepania (2.4 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 26 games)
PG Jeff McInnis (12.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.3 apg in 29 games)
SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.9 apg in 29 games)
Change in team outlook: +4.5 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and +0.8 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED After Jan 22.

Dallas:
Wallace/Bradley/Stepania/Fortson
Nowitzki/Wallace/Najera
Jamison/Howard
Finley/Howard/McInnis
Nash/McInnis/Daniels

Portland:
Stoudamire/Best
Delk/Anderson/TAW
Patterson/Woods/Person
Walker/Randolf
Randolf/Davis/Boumtje

Then if Dallas could get Sabonis for the stretch...WOW.
I think Portland is more likely to do this to get the money off the books.
I just can't see the taking TAW's contract regardless of the situation though.

Chiwas
01-02-2004, 01:09 PM
More (good, for me) news today:

Translated with a language-engine.

http://www.eldiariodechihuahua.com/edicion/articulo/deportes/notas/nota3.jpg

They assure to Lalo his permanence in Mavs

SUN

His tone of voice was of much tranquillity. Very different from the one from it does two or three weeks when the desperation made prey of the Mexican player of the Mavericks de Dallas, Eduardo Nájera.

The reason of the joy of the chihuahuense is simple. Minutes before the telephone interview that granted for the UNIVERSAL one, the owner of the Mavericks, Mark Cuban, spoke with him to assure to him that its permanence with Dallas is a fact.

"I talked with him with because I was very worried not playing many minutes and he (Cuban) said to me that I had to be calm, that nor even to think that they are going to trade me because I am not going to leave. It said to me that in the NBA are not many players of my quality, not only in the field, but human", Eduardo said.

The Mexican player felt in the desperation after the trainer of the Mavericks, Don Nelson, is been using him 13,8 minutes per game, the smaller amount from his year of novice when averaged 10.8.

Other times almost he doesn't even step on the court as last week against the Kings of Sacramento. That day, the Mexican forward played only a minute. That night Eduardo called his agent, Give Fegan, so that he will speak with the owner on the possibility of a change to another team.

- What was exactly what Cuban said to you?

- He said to me: "you remain in my team, we don't think in changing you, so tell your agent that don't worry", something like this-, Eduardo answered.

Nevertheless, the forward of 2,04 meters sayd that Cuban promised to him to make changes in the team. Truth is that it is great news to begin the year. Very nervous, sad and I was disappointed of how the things were occurring, now I feel far better, it assured Eduardo.

The basquetball player, second Mexican playing in the NBA, added that at the moment he will be dedicated to give rest to his left knee, which will have him without activity two weeks more. Eduardo was operated of that joint the 6 of December of the last year, but until the moment he has not retaken the form.

"I can't jump nor I have the force of before, this is hopeless to me. There are occasions that my mind wants to make a thing, but the knee says another one to me", Nájera said. The player related that after the last revision in the knee, the doctor of the Mavericks, T.Q. Souryal preached at him for not to have had the necessary rest during the summer. The preaching wasn't hard, but he said to me that I am paying the consequences of not taking a rest in the summer. No way that he had not played with the Mexican selection, he added.

That things are of the past, now what it matters is to rest two or three weeks to be in the best possible form, I want to return to be Eduardo Nájera of before, he emphasized.


The report, in Spanish. (http://www.eldiariodechihuahua.com/edicion/impresa/deportes/inotas/nota3.html)

Chiwas
01-02-2004, 02:49 PM
Noticed this?


Nevertheless, the forward of 2,04 meters said that Cuban promised to him to make changes in the team.

Uh oh.

ddh33
01-02-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by: Chiwas
Noticed this?


Nevertheless, the forward of 2,04 meters said that Cuban promised to him to make changes in the team.

Uh oh.

I was thinking the exact same thing...What exactly does that mean?

My first hunch is that one of the forwards is going to be moved out for someone else. Maybe that means Najera can go back to his more normal posititon. But would that rule out bringing in another forward like Rasheed? Does this give credence to the possibility of Zydrunas Ilgauskus here in Dallas or some other center?

Chiwas
01-02-2004, 04:20 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing...What exactly does that mean?
Making connections between "Najera won't leave and will play enough time when healthy" and "changes in the team" only lead me to think in two options:

1.- Walker -or Jamison- is going to be traded for a Center. I think Walker is the main candidate cause Dirk would be back to that spot or the 3 and Najera to the backup at the 4.

2.- Nelson will be fired -not very possible- or Nelson will change the scheme sitting Walker or using him in the 5.

The #1 makes more sense, and I think it will be soon.

ddh33
01-02-2004, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by: Chiwas

I was thinking the exact same thing...What exactly does that mean?
Making connections between "Najera won't leave and will play enough time when healthy" and "changes in the team" only lead me to think in two options:

1.- Walker -or Jamison- is going to be traded for a Center. I think Walker is the main candidate cause Dirk would be back to that spot or the 3 and Najera to the backup at the 4.

2.- Nelson will be fired -not very possible- or Nelson will change the scheme sitting Walker or using him in the 5.

The #1 makes more sense, and I think it will be soon.


I tend to agree with the trade seeming imminent. Who do think ends up coming and going?

Chiwas
01-02-2004, 06:20 PM
After thinking more about it, it seems it will be Jamison for Wallace, the original rumor, without Najera.

Speedy
01-02-2004, 06:33 PM
Chiwas, in that article it says that Eddie called his agent about a transfer to another team. Did he call because he wanted to be traded or because he was worried about being traded. I didn't understand.

Chiwas
01-02-2004, 06:44 PM
Reading it in Spanish, it seems that he was desperate and wanting a trade. It is not very clear, though.

(Congratulations for your first hundred)

Speedy
01-02-2004, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by: Chiwas
Reading it in Spanish, it seems that he was desperate and wanting a trade. It is not very clear, though.

(Congratulations for your first hundred)

I see, and thank you. Congratulations yourself you big guru.i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

Simon2
01-02-2004, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by: Chiwas
After thinking more about it, it seems it will be Jamison for Wallace, the original rumor, without Najera.

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

Simon2
01-02-2004, 08:13 PM
Isn't it odd that Najera is speaking to Cuban directly? Shouldn't he go to Nellie or Donnie? How can Cuban guarantee that he isn't being shopped?

Chiwas
01-02-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by: Simon2

Originally posted by: Chiwas
After thinking more about it, it seems it will be Jamison for Wallace, the original rumor, without Najera.

I'd do that in a heartbeat.Jamison+TAW+Stephanson+2008 first round pick

Chiwas
01-03-2004, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by: Simon2
Isn't it odd that Najera is speaking to Cuban directly? Shouldn't he go to Nellie or Donnie? How can Cuban guarantee that he isn't being shopped?It is odd, always has been since Cuban arrived. He buys, sells, trades, waives, signs, coaches and trains, sometimes or often, in a fun way or in a serious manner. In my opinion, he is the real GM of the team, with Donnie as his main assistant and Don as a consultant -on the GM tasks. Nonetheless, he said "We don't think on changing you", which soften the oddity.