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djb
03-16-2001, 01:52 PM
Williams Accused Of Slurs
Fan wants apology from Kings guard

Brad Weinstein, Chronicle Staff Writer

A Warriors season-ticket holder is accusing Sacramento's Jason Williams of shouting racial and anti-gay slurs at him and other fans sitting behind the Kings' bench during a game Feb. 28 at the Arena in Oakland.

In a letter obtained by The Chronicle and addressed to NBA commissioner David Stern, among others, Michael Ching of Santa Clara wrote that Williams called him a "slant-eyed mother --" and said: "I will shoot all you Asian mother--. . . . Do you remember the Vietnam War? I'll kill y'all just like that."

Ching said Williams pretended, with his hands, to shoot a machine gun and imitated the sound the weapon makes.

Williams' rant began about midway through the first half when Ching said he told him, "Get used to sitting on the bench." According to Ching, the third- year point guard responded, "Are you gay? Are you a fag?"

Speaking last night from Phoenix, where he is watching spring training, Ching, 39, said Williams' words and actions "were astounding and beyond comprehension."

"Either this kid is really a racist, or he just doesn't have a concept of maturity yet," Ching said. "Since he hasn't (apologized), that tends to tell me he's really a racist. To direct those things not just to me but to our entire section, that tells me that he meant it.

"I have a lot of friendly chatter with the players from opposing teams, and it's always about basketball, never anything derogatory. I've never had a negative reaction from a player or anything that has even been close to this."

The Kings yesterday referred all questions to general manager Geoff Petrie, who did not return a phone message left at his office.

Ching's letter, dated March 1, also was addressed to Warriors owner Chris Cohan, general manager Garry St. Jean and vice president of business operations Robert Rowell; Kings owners Joe and Gavin Maloof; and NBA deputy commissioner Russ Granik.

Joe Maloof called Ching on Monday, apologizing on Williams' behalf and inviting the Warriors' fan to a future Kings game in Sacramento. Ching said he appreciated the gesture but told Maloof he wanted to hear contrition from Williams.

"He needs to be held accountable," Ching said. "If he's not going to apologize, people need to know that, too. That's more important than any fine or suspension by the NBA."

Ching said he voiced his concerns to Rowell the night of the game. The Warriors then reported the incident to the league.

Thirteen days after the Kings' 122-101 victory, the NBA fined Williams $15, 000 for cursing at fans. League spokesman Brian McIntyre said yesterday the matter is closed.

Williams, 25, who was suspended for the first five games of the regular season for violating the league's anti-drug program, also was fined $10,000 for comments to fans after the Kings' 82-79 loss Nov. 29 at the Alamodome in San Antonio.

"People say all types of things to me, curse words, talk about weed, everything," Williams told reporters in Sacramento earlier this week. "They can get personal with me, but I can't get personal with them, I guess. Hopefully, I'll learn my lesson one of these times."

Source: Williams Accused Of Slurs (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/03/16/SP112930.DTL)

Evilmav2
03-16-2001, 02:35 PM
Man, that's harsh... It sounds like Williams has some real problems...

Hales233
03-16-2001, 02:47 PM
I don't feel bad for that moron Mr. Ching at all. He can dish it out, be he can't take it?? I'm sure that's just how he said it, "Get used to sitting on the bench." In a nice, calm voice.

I don't agree with Williams using racial slurs, but this Ching guy sounds like a tool. He's a rich guy who wants some attention. I like the part about "he's currently in Phoenix watching spring training." Typicl loser rich guy who thinks he can get anything he wants.

scooterj5
03-16-2001, 03:03 PM
He had it coming. I'm sure he would have been saying more than "Get used to sitting on the bench" as well. But Jwill didn't need to get that angry.

djb
03-16-2001, 03:11 PM
Dude there's a HUGE difference between heckling someone and shouting offensive and graphic racial slurs like that. Talking about killing people (especifically based on race) is also incredibly tasteless and stupid. If a Jewish guy was making fun of you, would it be ok for you to say you'd slaughter and gas his people like they did during the Holocaust? What about calling a black guy a n_gge_? And if you read the article, it says that Williams was directing his comments at the entire section.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 03:13 PM
i read it allright...how come you didn't seem so angry when Iverson was calling all of the Pacer fans fag*ots?

djb
03-16-2001, 03:18 PM
I never heard of that incident. Still calling someone a "faggot" is far tamer than calling someone a n_gge_ or talking about killing them. Geez how do you guys feel about the KKK? I know a lot of people probably use the words fag and faggot quite liberally, usually just as a negative put-down. It's not right, but based on the context, it's nowhere near as bad as racist statements. There's a fine and distinct line between crass behavior and obscenity.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 03:21 PM
if you're insinuating that because i happen to be a white male that I am a member of the KKK or practice what they preach, that is ridiculous. I despise the KKK and all of their teachings, i was simply offering up my opinion of the situation. i clearly stated that williams should not have made racist remarks.

next time a situation like this comes up, i will keep my mouth shut for fear of offending oversensitive people.

djb
03-16-2001, 03:43 PM
I wasn't insinuating you were affiliated with the KKK! Geez..I was asking how YOU felt about them in general. You seem to think that shouting racial slurs and deragotory remarks isn't that much worse than a common insult. This isn't a case of being overly sensitive or easily offended. What Williams said and did was highly offensive (it actually crosses into the realm of obscenity) and should be considered as such by any level-headed individual. No matter what that fan said to him, Williams should NOT have said or did those things. Personally, I don't think the fact that he's a public figure has anything to do with it (though some may argue he needs to watch what he says based on the fact that he's under heavy public scrutiny due to his star status). The guy's complete trash. Even in the heat of the moment, I couldn't possibly fathom a need or desire to bring up racist shit like that.

Oh and remember the John Rocker incident? That was pretty bad but at least he didn't talk about killing all the Jews, Blacks, and Gays.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 04:03 PM
Jason Williams is a lot less harmless than that *%*% John Rocker.

Evilmav2
03-16-2001, 04:09 PM
I don't consider myself to be an oversensitive type, but I do think that the use of violence tinged racial slurs really steps over the line...I thought that the Rocker comments in Sports Illustrated were a little overblown, and I don't think that Rocker really meant to do anything but poke fun at NY. He may have some unpolitically correct views about various things, but I don't think that he was the hatred spewing monster that the media tried to portray him as. The comments of Williams are completely different in my opinion. He might as well have called a black fan heckling him that he was a dirty "nigger" and that we should ship him back of Africa (I am not saying this- just making a comparison). He could just as easily have called a Jewish fan a "Kike" and say that Hitler should have finished the job. Comments like these far surpass uncomfortable racial references like Rockers, and really step into the repugnant realm of racial hatred... That Williams feels he can get away with saying something like he did speaks volumes about his lack of maturity, and his apparent moral bankruptcy... Again, I do not feel that I am being oversensive about this- his comments are completely out of line and indefensible... Also, Iverson was replying to fans who were calling him a "nigger" and were saying things about his mom. In my opinion his "faggots" comment was precipitated by an angry situation, and by out of control fans. I saw a lot of Indianapolis coverage of this incident because I live in Bloomington...

djb
03-16-2001, 04:13 PM
I agree with you whole-heartedly Evilmav2. Rocker was stupid for what he said, but the Williams comments completely overstepped the boundaries. There's a huge difference between vulgarity and oscenity..and my law profs made sure we all understood that.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 04:25 PM
why don't you guys nominate Rocker for President...that would be cool

djb
03-16-2001, 04:28 PM
Uhh did I ever say I agreed with Rocker's comments? I guess my calling him stupid wasn't clear enough.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 04:36 PM
the fact that you think JWill is a worse human being based on one incident is stupid if u ask me

The Crippler
03-16-2001, 04:37 PM
hales, obviously you are a kings fan, but for you not to be able to see that what williams said was disgraceful, that blows my mind. I can't believe that you actually would take j.w.'s side on this. Don't let your love for a sports team cloud your judgement of what's really right.

03-16-2001, 04:38 PM
Ching's a dork, William's is a fscking idiot.

If someone throws a pebble at you, you don't take a gun out and shoot them.

Doesn't anyone know anything about name-calling anymore? You tell a person that
his mama is so fat ...

I think the art was lost after elementary school.

I am rubber you are glue...

Hales233
03-16-2001, 04:42 PM
Crippler,
For the 50th time I said what JWill did was wrong, but I also think that the dude who started the verbal war between the two shouldn't get off scott free.

I do like the Kings, but I'm not a particularly big Jwill fan, I prefer to see Bobby Jackson run the point. So that has nothing to do with my views on this issue.

djb
03-16-2001, 04:44 PM
I agree that Ching should've kept his mouth shut, but even still, there's no way you can POSSIBLY defend Williams' response or say he was provoked into saying and doing that.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 04:48 PM
JWill shouldn't have said what he said, kinda like you shouldn't have said what you said at the top of the article about "your boyz coming to get him."

Oh wait, you edited your message and took that out?? Wow, payback's a bitch eh DJ??

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

your judgement may not be that great either

djb
03-16-2001, 04:59 PM
Yea I posted that cuz I was madd pissed. I've since taken it off after thinking about it more clearly. Whatever the case, I've said what I've wanted to say so I'm gonna lay off now. This is a free country and if some people don't have a problem with racism, then there's not much I can do about it.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 05:02 PM
How many times do I have to freakin' say I'm not a racist?? Stop skirting around the damn issue, if you think I'm a racist, say it to my face.

Secondly, it's kind of ironic how similar your actions were to JWill's...you both overreacted a bit i'd say.

I DONT THINK JWILL'S COMMENTS WERE APPROPRIATE....PERIOD!!!!!!!!

djb
03-16-2001, 05:07 PM
My overreaction to a racist: I'm gonna kick his butt (how serious do you think I was being?). Not a very wise or mature thing to say nonetheless.

His overreaction to a heckler: You slant-eyed mother -- ..I will shoot all you Asian mother--....Do you remember the Vietnam War? I'll kill y'all just like that. BANG BANG BANG!

djb
03-16-2001, 05:08 PM
And NO I don't think you're a racist Hales.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 05:15 PM
has it been proven he said these things? has he admitted it?

djb
03-16-2001, 05:19 PM
All I know is what's been written in that article. If Ching's lying, then he's a moron. But why would he go through the trouble of writing to the Maloofs, Chris Cohan (Warriors owner), Garry St. Jean, and Russ Granik among others? Since Maloof bothered to call Ching and apologize on Williams' behalf, then there must be some truth to the story. Finally, this isn't the first time Williams has been involved in an altercation (verbal) with fans.

djb
03-16-2001, 05:47 PM
Ok from what I've read (which may or may not be accurate), Ching and some of the guys sitting next to him were heckling Williams pretty bad. So with that, I don't blame Williams for lashing out. However, he should NOT have said the things he did. A "Shut the f*ck up!" would have sufficed. Even though he didn't "start" the verbal altercation, he shouldn't have reacted the way he did. His words and actions were thoughtless, immature, and highly offensive. The NBA fined him $15k and the Maloofs publicly apologized, but JWill needs to accept responsibility for his actions and apologize.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 06:32 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if there were some racial jabs being exchanged on both ends.

Strago
03-16-2001, 07:12 PM
Hales, sorry man, but your arguments are lame.

Basically you are saying what JWill did was wrong, but understandable. News flash Ė his action was inexcusable. Iím the least political correct person out there, but even I can see when a guy mimics a machine gun and say ĎI will shoot all you Asian mother*í is reprehensible.

How many NBA games have you been to? Fans heckle the players all the time. Itís called home court advantage. You, as a fan do all you reasonably can to psych a player out. Itís no different than bringing signs or banners insulting the opposing teams or when fans waive streamers in unison to distract a player during a free throw. Most players are mentally strong enough to ignore the fans' antics.

The league investigated the incident and fined JWill 15k, so I'm inclined to believe it happened. Ching may be a loud-mouthed dork, but he didn't shout racial slurs to initiate the incident - he would have been mobbed. Iverson was flat out lying when he said Pacers fans were throwing the n-bomb at him. If a fan shouts racial slurs at the players in an earshot of other fans, then that fan will get jumped. Trust me, I seen it happened. I donít know if JWill is racist or not, I donít know what is in his heart. I can only judge from his actions, and his actions donít look favorable upon him.

Just my 2 cents.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 07:35 PM
Wrong. If they were calling JWill "white boy" or anything like that nobody would have done anything about it. It's a double standard.

03-16-2001, 07:54 PM
Uhmm that's got to be the dumbest logic I've ever heard. Also, all reports have stated that Ching didn't say anything racial.

03-16-2001, 07:56 PM
"white boy" sure sounds a lot worse then slant-eyed mother fucker (am i allowed to say this?). yea and i dont recall hearing any reports that ching threatened to kill all the white people.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 08:01 PM
were you there?? NO...so SHUT UP.

It is a total double standard. Black comedians can make fun of white people, but if a white comedian made fun of blacks, there would be a riot.

03-16-2001, 08:11 PM
are you stupid or something hales?! ching was heckling williams cuz of the way he plays. read the freakin article and go talk to some people from the bay area who listened to all the radio coverage! if a black guy goes up to you and says you suck at bball, and you answer by calling him a no good dirty nig*** whose people should be killed and beaten just like in olden times (when slavery was big), does that make you right? by your logic, it would. are you sure you're not part of some white supremecist group or soemthing? your replies are so pathetic. all the other guys replying to this thread write detailed, lengthy, and logical explanations of why jwill was wrong, and you respond by typing pathetic one line excuses based on EXTREMELY IMPROBABLE "what if?" circumstances.

oh and like that guy said above, dont you think if ching was making racial remarks at jwill, the white guys around him would get pissed off and have him kicked out? think about it moron! why would the maloofs PUBLICY and PERSONALLY apologize and why would the nba fine him $15,000 if he weren't to blame?!! answer that! players get fined $5k for throwing punches and getting kicked out of games. the nba fined jwill THREE times that amount. if you're not understanding all this, then you're either an idiot, in total denial, or a racist. im not saying you're a racist, but you're obviously one of those three. i live in oakland so i've heard all this crap on the radio and i know what im talking about.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 08:14 PM
it's a double standard....'nuff said.

03-16-2001, 08:17 PM
yes it's a double standard. hecklers can make fun of a way a guy plays, but the player has no right to bash his race, shout racist insults, and threaten to kill his people. that's so unfair.

oh and before i sign off, everyone notice hales' newest nugget of wisdom. it's so long, so logical, and so full of reason, it's surprising why no one else agrees with him. this isn't worth my time.

Evilmav2
03-16-2001, 08:31 PM
I would not hesitate to talk sh*t to anybody throwing around "white boy" slurs in the crowd. I would also not take kindly to Williams' slurs or the alleged comments of Pacers fans to Iverson, if I were seated anywhere nearby at those games. That kind of thing is not something that deserves any respect or condoning... Of course other fans might be irritated at me standing up for most games and generally being a loud drunken buffoon, but that is more respectable than mindlessly attacking others about their ethnic heritage... Additionally, I am about the least politically correct, sensitive guy you will ever find- I just don't like obnoxious racial attacks being thrown around...

Hales233
03-16-2001, 09:11 PM
anonymous can't even take the time to register a damn screen name

03-16-2001, 09:40 PM
wow what an incredibly relevant post. u must be running out of lame excuses.

03-16-2001, 10:23 PM
This is the absolute last time I will address the issue for morons such as anonymous.

I do not approve of what JWill said but I think the guy who started the argument should be held accountable as well.

The double standard I am speaking of is simple: Chris Rock can talk about the differences between blacks and whites, but I can't. Don't get me wrong, I think comedians like Rock are hilarious, but it is a double standard, any way you cut it.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 10:24 PM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPP PPPPPPPP

03-16-2001, 10:31 PM
What the hell does Chris Rock have to do with anything?!

So EVERYONE who heckles players at games should be reprimanded? Cuz that's all that Ching guy was doing! Fine, make him apologize for heckling (as well as every other Warriors fan in attendance). But if you think what he did was worse than AND deserving of Williams' obscene racial slurs, then you're an idiot. You're probably the first person I've ever encountered who thinks calling someone a crappy ballplayer is just as bad as calling someone a dirty nig___. Oh and don't even think about saying this isn't relevant. Actually what JWill said and did (simulating mass slaughter with machine gun is disgustinly pathetic) is MUCH MUCH WORSE. If you can't see this, then it's pointless even talking to you. Watching that racist trash on Jerry Springer is more tolerable, since at least I know they're really acting and aren't that stupid.

Hales233
03-16-2001, 10:50 PM
``The league did a very thorough investigation based on the complaint that was sent directly to them, and we're real supportive of the decision that they've made,'' said Geoff Petrie, the Kings' vice president of basketball operations.

``We don't condone behavior or interactions with the fans at all that are abusive. It's not acceptable behavior, but it's been dealt with, and it's finished."

03-16-2001, 11:28 PM
Ah yes, the official decision. With JWill being found guilty and no mention of Chris Rock whatsoever. I'm glad the league punished him for his immature conduct. $10 says he never takes responsibility for his actions and issues an official apology though. Oh well. You can fine people but you can't change em.

djb
03-17-2001, 09:31 AM
I'm posting these two articles to present other sides of the argument. This entire mess is based purely on hearsay at the moment, and I'm closing this thread until REAL accts are brought forth. All I have to say is that if these new reports are true, then Ching is f*cking moron and JWill, though not completely to blame, is one as well. Two wrongs don't make a right, one racial slur doesn't beget another one, and all that..

Smith, fan give support to Williams
By Martin McNeal
Bee Staff Writer
(Published March 17, 2001)

PHILADELPHIA -- Kings point guard Jason Williams must have figured he'd already said too much.
So when presented an opportunity both before and after Friday night's 100-79 victory over the Philadelphia 76ers to respond to allegations that he'd made anti-Asian and anti-gay remarks to a couple of fans at a Feb. 28 game at Golden State, Williams made himself unavailable for comment.

That was not the case for Kings vice president Geoff Petrie and owner Joe Maloof, who said similar behavior from Williams in the future will not be tolerated.

But rookie forward Jabari Smith, who sat by Williams on the Kings' bench at the Arena in Oakland, read a written account from the Bay Area describing the incident and said he had many points of contention.

"That's not true," Smith said after reading a story. "Those guys are out to get Jason."

Smith wasn't alone in questioning the authenticity of the account provided to Bay Area newspapers.

Cian Sanchez is a fan who says he sat behind the Golden State season-ticket holder who made the accusations in letters to the Kings and the NBA. Sanchez said he never heard any of those comments.

Sanchez made those comments first in what he said was an unsolicited phone call to Joe Maloof.

"I was in the general vicinity," Sanchez said, "and I know they were talking back and forth, Jason and this guy Michael Ching. I saw them arguing, but I never heard any of those anti-Asian remarks Jason was supposed to have made. I'm not saying he didn't say any of those things, but my girlfriend was with me, and she's Asian. So if he said some of those things, I think my ears would have been in tune to hear them."

Petrie, the Kings' vice president of basketball operations, said Friday that the NBA handled the Williams situation sufficiently in this instance by fining him $15,000. Williams was fined $10,000 for similar behavior during a Nov. 29 game in San Antonio.

"I've said before that Jason has to become a better caretaker of himself of his own soul off the court," Petrie said. "He has been counseled by us in an ongoing manner. We do not condone this type of behavior by either a player or any employee.

"If situations such as these continue to happen, there definitely will be a point where something more substantial could happen in terms of penalties with missed games."

Maloof said he wanted to talk to Williams in person before deciding how to attack the problem. Maloof offered to bring Ching to Sacramento for a game.

Ching said that was not enough and wants an apology from Williams.

Williams said Friday morning that he would apologize, but only after he received one first from Ching.

Smith said Friday night that Ching owed Williams an apology.

"The first thing he said to J-Will was, 'What drug are going to use next?'" Smith recounted. "Now how can you say something like that to a person and not expect to hear something back? And he called J-Will a 'skinhead.' Another dude called him a racist, and it just blew up from there. I didn't hear J-Will say anything racist to these guys."

Source: Smith, fan give support to Williams (http://www.sacbee.com/sports/news/sports02_20010317.html)

djb
03-17-2001, 10:16 AM
Ailene Voisin: When will Williams learn to keep his mouth shut?

(Published March 17, 2001)

Jason Williams is three seasons into his NBA career now, no longer the shy, unschooled Kings rookie with the outrageous skills.
He is also 25 years old.

He should know better.

He should know, say, when to keep quiet.

Yet based on a Feb. 28 incident in Oakland's New Arena -- and this is only the latest in an ongoing series of verbal battles -- Williams seems to have learned very little. The Kings are beginning to wonder if he has learned anything.

"This kid, if he continues to sow the seeds of his destruction ... some are going to sprout," an irritated Geoff Petrie said Friday evening. "And while we aren't exactly sure who said what, and we know that fan behavior often crosses the line, we know something happened, and whatever it was is not acceptable."

Though the accounts vary somewhat, this much is known: In the midst of the Kings' victory that night over Golden State, Williams began sparring with Michael Ching, a longtime Warriors season-ticket holder who was seated with friends behind the visitors' bench. Claiming that Ching called him a "skinhead" and "racist" -- accusations the Warriors fan vehemently denies -- the third-year point guard allegedly responded with the following:

"Are you a fag?"

"Are you gay?"

"Do you remember the Vietnam War? I'll kill y'all just like that."

In a letter sent to NBA Commissioner David Stern, as well as in conversations with Kings owner Joe Maloof and members of the Bay Area media, Ching, whose account was verified by fans Earl Butler and Duke Tsai in Thursday's Oakland Tribune, said Williams then pretended to be aiming a rifle at them and emitting a "rat-a-tat-tat" sound.

"Just like Pearl Harbor," he is said to have added.

On Tuesday, the NBA fined Williams $15,000. On Wednesday, Ching and his companions went public. On Friday, questions remained, namely: What are the Kings to do about their volatile young star? Fine him? Been there, done that. Trade him? Too late, at least until the offseason.

Suspend him?

According to sources, the Kings were fully prepared to do exactly that. To do the right thing. But the league's internal investigation failed to provide enough evidence to warrant the more severe penalty (in other words, a suspension might have prodded the Players Association into action), so the NBA's recourse was reduced to levying a fine.

Too bad. The Kings' instincts were right on. Given Williams' verbal history, a fine alone is insufficient; at the very least he should have been fined and forced to meet with an anger management therapist.

Who cares if he was provoked?

Who cares if he only cursed -- as Williams contends -- and failed to utter a single racial slur?

Who cares anymore?

Williams has squandered any right to the benefit of the doubt. For the better part of three seasons, he has responded, even to the mildest, often playful criticism, with profane remarks and obscene gestures. We've all heard them. We've all seen them. Nor does he discriminate; he has been rude to adults and youngsters alike, having already incurred a $10,000 fine for profane comments Nov. 29 in San Antonio.

Now, finally, comes the fallout.

Warriors and Kings fans are threatening to cancel season tickets. Bay Area television stations and newspaper reporters are clamoring for seats to the Warriors' next home game, in pursuit of an interview with Ching and his cohorts. Petrie is steamed. Kings owner Joe Maloof is overworked, frantically making apologetic phone calls and seeking closure to the matter.

"We're not going to tolerate this from anybody," said Maloof, while on business in Las Vegas. "When the team gets back in town, Geoff, Gavin (Maloof) and I are going to sit down with Jason and tell him what we expect. You want to support your players, but you can't defend a situation like this. If it happens again, we'll take very severe action."

Meantime, there is something Williams can do.

He can open his mouth again. He can be a big boy. He can prove that he has, in fact, learned something.

He can say he's sorry.

Source: When will Williams learn to keep his mouth shut? (http://www.sacbee.com/sports/news/sports03_20010317.html)

djb
03-17-2001, 02:05 PM
Apparently Ching wasn't the only one who heard the slurs and complained. A CAUCASIAN man also complained to the league.

Fans accuse Kings' Williams of racial slurs
By Dave Del Grande
STAFF WRITER

OAKLAND -- Three season ticketholders in the first row behind the visitor's bench at the Arena -- two Asian-American men and a Caucasian man who was accompanied by a Vietnamese girlfriend -- claim Sacramento guard Jason Williams directed racial and anti-gay epithets at them during the Kings' game against the Golden State Warriors on Feb. 28.

According to Michael Ching and Earl Butler, both of San Jose, and Duke Tsai of San Carlos, Williams loudly boasted, "I'm going to kill all you Asian (people)," during what Ching labeled had started off as "usual" give-and-take between the fans and the visiting players.

The NBA fined Williams $15,000 on Tuesday -- 13 days after the fact -- for "directing profanity toward fans."

The three men claim he did a lot worse than that.

Ching, who like Tsai was seated alongside a male Asian-American friend, recalled riding Williams while he was out of the lineup during the Kings' 122-101 victory.

"We were doing a little bit of the usual thing ... 'Why are you sitting on the bench?' he claimed. "He looked me in the face and said, 'Are you gay?' What? 'Are you gay?' What? 'Are you a fag?'

"I said, 'Is that all you know, three-letter words?' Then he said, 'I'm going to kill all you Asian (people). We fought you all in the war. You Vietnamese. You Japanese ...'"

All three men claim Williams then pointed his index finger at them in a gun motion and said, "Rat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat," immitating the sound of a machine gun.

Butler said the Kings' trainer, Pete Youngman, heard the remarks and stepped into the five-foot area between the Kings' bench and the first row of seats. But, he claimed, that didn't stop Williams from barking.

"He's the John Rocker of basketball," said Butler, who said he's a 10-year season ticketholder. "I went to the Kings' trainer and asked, 'Can't you do something?' He said, 'What am I going to do?'"

Ching said Williams, 25, who was suspended by the NBA for the first five games of this season for violation of the league's substance-abuse policy, blurted "just like Pearl Harbor" as he continued his gun motion.

"I said, 'Where did you go to history class?'" Ching said.

The three men, who also attended Wednesday's game against Utah, said they were approached by a Warriors representative later in the Kings game. Ching claims he was warned to watch himself or he would be ejected.

"At that point, I decided to lodge a formal complaint," Ching said.

He said he Federal Expressed letters the next day, March 1, to NBA commissioner David Stern, NBA deputy commissioner Russ Granik, Warriors owner Chris Cohan, Warriors general manager Garry St. Jean, Warriors vice president of business operations Bobby Rowell and Kings owners Joe and Gavin Maloof.

"I can tell you the gentleman (Ching) approached me after the game," Rowell said. "I told him to send a letter to the NBA. Then, eventually it (letter) was sent to the league and they did what they needed to do."

Asked if the Warriors' organization was satisfied with the penalty, Rowell said: That's not my job. I'm not the commissioner to evaluate fines in the NBA."

Curt Jimerson, a security guard assigned to Warriors games by the NBA, said he couldn't comment.

On the eve of the fine being announced, Ching said he received a call from Joe Maloof on Monday, apologizing on Williams' behalf and inviting Ching and his guest to a game in Sacramento.

Unsatisfied with the response, Ching has done an interview with Asian Weekly newspaper, whose management promised it would follow up on the incident.

"Until he makes an apology to the Asian community and the people he offended," Ching insisted, "it's not settled."

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