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MavsFanFinley
10-03-2005, 07:47 PM
I'm taking off right now so maybe others can fill in the details. It's on the Chicago boards over at realgm that the deal is done and John Paxon has announced it but no details were released.

Apparently espn radio is announcing it too but I don't have time to listen to confirm and add more. It doesn't sound like a joke but you never know.

alby
10-03-2005, 07:51 PM
4. New York Knicks (Charleston, S.C.)

It is not inconceivable that the Knicks will acquire Eddy Curry from Chicago sometime this week.

Even if they don't, Larry Brown's formally undertaking the dreamy task of coercing Stephon Marbury (and Jerome James) to play his way should be sufficiently decent theatre.

It is likewise not inconceivable, if camp fails to meet the new coach's impossibly high standards, that Brown will start nagging boss Isiah Thomas with trade suggestions sometime next week.

according to Stein

so I'm not surprised if Curry really IS going to the big apple..

Drbio
10-03-2005, 08:56 PM
Another headcase to NY....oh boy!

rakesh.s
10-03-2005, 09:18 PM
Isiah will have destroyed the knicks for the next 5 years once he makes this trade.

I think it's just a formality at this point...Paxson wants some younger talent and I think Isiah will cave. Ariza isn't going to get any PT with all the guards and SFs they have in New York. Might as well make the trade for a big man..

rakesh.s
10-03-2005, 09:29 PM
It's official...from RealGM

AP - The Chicago Bulls dealt center Eddy Curry to the New York Knicks on Monday, ending a contentious negotiation in which the team insisted the restricted free agent take a DNA test over a heart problem.

In making the announcement, an obviously frustrated Bulls general manager John Paxson did not specify what the Bulls got in return and he did not field questions.

"We will have an announcement tomorrow morning," Bulls public relations director Sebrina Brewster said Monday night. "All we can say right now is we traded Eddy to the Knicks."

The Knicks did not immediately return messages seeking comment.

EricaLubarsky
10-03-2005, 09:40 PM
I wonder if the Knicks gave up one of the talented young guys like Ariza. Earlier reports were saying that Chicago wanted one of the rising younguns. Acquiring Curry isnt too bad of a risk if they didn give up much, but if they gave up one of their young guys, then this could be one of the worst trades.

rakesh.s
10-03-2005, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky
I wonder if the Knicks gave up one of the talented young guys like Ariza. Earlier reports were saying that Chicago wanted one of the rising younguns. Acquiring Curry isnt too bad of a risk if they didn give up much, but if they gave up one of their young guys, then this could be one of the worst trades.

I said the same thing, so either you have me on ignore or I wasn't clear..

EricaLubarsky
10-03-2005, 10:12 PM
wow, tell me off, why dont you. It took me forever to post, but I guess you didnt think of that.

Drbio
10-03-2005, 10:25 PM
Posts like your last one rakesh make me wish we did have an ignore feature.

MavsFanFinley
10-03-2005, 10:34 PM
Here's a few more details.

Bulls send Curry to Knicks

By ANDREW SELIGMAN, AP Sports Writer
October 3, 2005

DEERFIELD, Ill. (AP) -- The Bulls agreed to trade center Eddy Curry to the New York Knicks on Monday, ending a contentious negotiation in which Chicago insisted the restricted free agent take a DNA test over a heart problem.

Chicago also sent veteran center Antonio Davis to the Knicks, who traded away forwards Tim Thomas, Michael Sweetney and Jermaine Jackson. Several draft choices also changed hands in the deal, according to an executive in the Eastern Conference who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The trade was expected to be finalized Tuesday.

In making the announcement, an obviously frustrated Bulls general manager John Paxson did not specify what Chicago got in return and did not field questions.

``We will have an announcement tomorrow morning,'' Bulls public relations director Sebrina Brewster said Monday night. ``All we can say right now is we traded Eddy to the Knicks.''

Knicks spokesman Jonathan Supranowitz said the team declined comment on Paxson's announcement.

The Bulls had insisted that Curry take a DNA test to determine whether he's susceptible to a potentially fatal heart problem. Curry, who missed the final 13 games of the regular season and the playoffs after experiencing an irregular heartbeat, balked, saying it violated his privacy.

``I would never put a player on the floor in a Chicago Bulls uniform if I didn't do everything in my power to find out all the information that was available,'' Paxson said. ``You can debate genetic testing 'til you're blue in the face. But from what I know, from what I've learned over the last six months, that test could have helped us determine the best course of action.''

Curry, drafted right out of high school, averaged a career-high 16.1 points in his fourth NBA season.

The standoff stemmed from a benign arrhythmia that caused Curry to miss the final 13 games of the regular season and the playoffs.

Several prominent cardiologists cleared Curry to play, but Barry Maron, a world-renowned specialist in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, suggested the DNA test.

Paxson has said he understands the privacy issues involved but insisted the Bulls do not have an ulterior motive; they simply do not want a situation similar to those of former Boston Celtics guard Reggie Lewis or Loyola Marymount star Hank Gathers -- players with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy who collapsed and died.

Paxson, speaking during the team's media day, told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next 50 years if he failed the genetic test.

``So he would have an above-average lifestyle that would put him in a position that most other people aren't in,'' Paxson said. ``Our intention through that whole process was to show him that we did care about him and that we were concerned about his well-being.''

Trade rumors involving Curry had heated up over the past week, and the Knicks were said to be willing to take on Curry without making him submit to a DNA test.

His acquisition gives the Knicks two new centers to begin the season after free agent Jerome James was signed to a five-year, $30 million deal in the offseason.

Sweetney had been slated to be New York's starting power forward, and Thomas was expected to start at small forward. The Knicks now have an added measure of depth along their front line, and the departure of Thomas could clear the way for newly acquired guard Quentin Richardson to see some minutes at small forward.

Curry's agent, Leon Rose, did not return calls seeking comment Monday.

Paxson said he resented insinuations that the Bulls were on a sort of witch hunt, trying to find information on Curry.

The general manager started by asking reporters to ``let me ramble a minute.'' After a long pause, he said, ``This has been about as uncomfortable and unusual a situation I could ever imagine. We've attempted from Day 1 to do the right thing, and I'm absolutely confident that we have in every way we went about it. And in a lot of ways we've met resistance in trying to gather all the information we feel we need.''

About three minutes later, Paxson said, ``From a basketball standpoint, I understand what I'm doing. But I have an obligation to this organization and the people I work for to do the right thing. And I did the right thing. That's all I've got to say.''

Then, he walked away from the table.

That Curry and the Bulls parted was not shocking, given the tone of the negotiations.

Curry played a major role as the Bulls won 47 games and reached the playoffs for the first time since 1998 -- when Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen led them to their sixth NBA title.

``It's tough,'' said power forward Tyson Chandler, who re-signed with the Bulls for six years during the offseason. ``I'm sad to see him go.''

alby
10-03-2005, 10:36 PM
if healthy, he can pay huge dividends for the smallish knicks

Drbio
10-03-2005, 11:50 PM
Paxson, speaking during the team's media day, told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next 50 years if he failed the genetic test.

Wow. Curry is a dumbass. Guaranteed 20 million if he fails, or he gets the contract he wants if he passes.

DubOverdose
10-04-2005, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by: Drbio

Paxson, speaking during the team's media day, told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next 50 years if he failed the genetic test.

Wow. Curry is a dumbass. Guaranteed 20 million if he fails, or he gets the contract he wants if he passes.

20mil would be awesome...and that was the worst case scenario? If you are guaranteed a great salary now and it should still be respectable in 50 years, itd be tough to turn away, especially with the potential to make significantly more.

Five-ofan
10-04-2005, 12:51 AM
Is anyone else thinking that if the 20 mil was guaranteed it would have been a good idea because knowing the cause of his heart problems might ohhhhh i dont know save his life or help him get it treated? Sweetney has potential. Tim Thomas is horrible. I dont know who Jackson is and Im not sure how much is left on the contracts of Davis and thomas. I know they were bad contracts but they have been bad contracts for a long time so they have to be getting close to expiring right?

chumdawg
10-04-2005, 01:45 AM
Something tells me his new contract pays a lot more than twenty million.

The Bulls really bungled this one. And the Knicks continue to prove that if moneyh is no object, you can do a lot in this league.

Thespiralgoeson
10-04-2005, 05:28 AM
Wow... Starbury, Crawford, Q-Rich, Curry, and James... The Knicks might actually be decent this year! Horrible defensive lineup, but Larry will probably bring out the best in them. This team shouldn't have any problems scoring whatsoever. They remind me a little bit of the Warriors of a few years ago, with Arenas, Richardson, Jamison etc... only this team has a hall of fame coach (even if he is an asshole)

Dooby
10-04-2005, 09:48 AM
I am surprised if the Union didn't intercede to convince Curry not to take the test. It would set a terrible precedent for the union. I doubt The $20M deal was enforceable. How could it be? It doesn't qualify as a player contract under the CBA. I would have advised Curry not to do it, too.

DevinHarriswillstart
10-04-2005, 10:36 AM
400k a year is better anyway so that these young kids won't blow it all on their bling bling. You're set for life just taking a dumb dna test? He obviously must be unhealthy. Worth the risk by the Knicks though.

alby
10-04-2005, 12:38 PM
curry is reported to sign a 6 year contract worth 55-60 million..

alby
10-04-2005, 12:40 PM
apparently the Knicks have come to an agreement with the Bulls to release Antonio Davis, where he will re-sign with Chicago at the end of the month.

essentially, the trade is this:

Tim Thomas
Michael Sweeney
Jermaine Jackson
Draft Pick

for

Eddy Curry

birdsanctuary
10-05-2005, 12:39 AM
Man this is really stupid.

The guy refuses a DNA test that could identify a life ending ailment for what?

Hope he walks away from the game if he's got the condition. Just the thought of what could happen brings back bad memories of Hank Gathers.

jthig32
10-05-2005, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by: chumdawg
Something tells me his new contract pays a lot more than twenty million.

The Bulls really bungled this one. And the Knicks continue to prove that if moneyh is no object, you can do a lot in this league.

Right, because the Knicks have been such a successful franchise for the last 8 seasons......

SeriousSummer
10-05-2005, 09:48 AM
Knicks starting line up:

Curry
Lee (who else? the Knicks are out of power forwards)
Q
Starbury
Crawford

I'd say that team gives up about 120 points per game. Larry Brown will be lucky to make it until Christmas.

SeriousSummer
10-05-2005, 09:51 AM
Knicks starting line up:

Curry
Lee (who else?)
Q
Starbury
Crawford

That team gives up about 120 points per game and shoots 30%. Larry Brown won't make it until Christmas.

sike
10-05-2005, 10:08 AM
I've read that James might stay at C while Curry will start at PF

sike
10-05-2005, 11:31 AM
Yahoo is reporting: "Curry has been cleared to play by several doctors and specialists, and he is slated to serve as the Knicks' starting center this season. "

DevinHarriswillstart
10-05-2005, 12:28 PM
Frye will probably eventually start at the 4.

Five-ofan
10-05-2005, 01:15 PM
You cant put curry and james on the floor at the same time. They are both horrible defensively, neither rebounds, they are both slow.

SeriousSummer
10-05-2005, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by: Five-ofan
You cant put curry and james on the floor at the same time. They are both horrible defensively, neither rebounds, they are both slow.

True, but it would be fun watching to see if Dirk could break the 100 point mark against a Knicks line up where Curry or James had to guard him.

EricaLubarsky
10-07-2005, 03:11 PM
Curry Deal May Be In Peril
the link (http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/37482/20051007/curry_deal_may_be_in_peril/)
New York Daily News - Another day came and went without the Knicks being assured that Eddy Curry will receive a clean bill of health from doctors, further raising the possibility that the controversial sign-and-trade deal with the Chicago Bulls could be rescinded.

With Curry dressed in street clothes and standing 15 feet behind him, Isiah Thomas suddenly sounded less optimistic about the 22-year-old center joining the Knicks than he had been two days earlier when the trade was announced.

"I'm hopeful, I'm hopeful," Thomas, the Knicks' president, told reporters following yesterday's morning practice. "Two nights ago I didn't know. We had to get the doctors to do all the tests. Until the doctors come back and they say either he can or he can't, that's when you know. Right now everything we're talking about is speculative. We don't know."

The Knicks and Bulls have imposed a deadline of 6 tonight to complete the trade that sent Curry and Antonio Davis to New York for Tim Thomas, Michael Sweetney, Jermaine Jackson and draft picks.

The Knicks are awaiting the final tests on Curry, who missed the final 13 games last season with an irregular heartbeat. Curry went through a battery of tests in New York on Tuesday and Wednesday before flying here Wednesday evening with his personal trainer.

"I'm not a doctor," Thomas said when asked about the status of Curry's test results. "They could come back and request more tests. What I don't want to say here today is that he's done taking tests and the doctor calls this afternoon and says, 'We found this one thing and we want to do another test'" - leaving open the possibility that the teams' deadline could be pushed back.

Understandably, Thomas and the organization may be having second thoughts about acquiring a player whom the Bulls felt was enough of a health risk to trade away. The 6-11, 285-pound Curry was the fourth overall pick of the 2001 draft out of high school and is regarded as one of the best low post players in the league

MavKikiNYC
10-07-2005, 08:23 PM
Curry passed.

Isiah's folly lives into the season.

chumdawg
10-08-2005, 12:55 AM
Hell else would you have Isaiah do? Fiddle while Rome burns?

MavKikiNYC
10-08-2005, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by: chumdawg
Hell else would you have Isaiah do? Fiddle while Rome burns?


It is what it is---the personnel acquisition equivalent of a half-court shot at the end of the 3rd quarter in a game you trail by 20. Maybe it shifts momentum, maybe not. Probably not.

It's just a big, huge pants-crapping gamble, that's all. Not brilliant GM-ing as poor, wretched NYKs fans want to believe.

I'm not a believer.

jayC
10-10-2005, 06:51 PM
Still Curry is fairly young, and before the injury was one of the best young post players in the league. He doesn't rebound like you want him to, but if he has no futher problems this could be a huge coup for the Knicks. Tim Thomas was overrated from the start. A Davis wouldn't contribute otherwise.

MavKikiNYC
10-14-2005, 06:41 PM
Report: Eddy had earlier scare

BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Eddy Curry, acquired by the Knicks in a controversial trade last week, first experienced chest pain during training camp last season, according to a published report.

Chicago Bulls general manager John Paxson, who decided to trade Curry after the 22-year-old center refused to take a DNA test, told SI.com that the team initially became concerned about Curry's health last October, five months before he was diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat.

"It was during a conditioning drill, and Eddy complained of chest pain and lightheadedness," Paxson said. "We took him to the hospital."

According to Paxson, a thorough examination failed to find a cause for Curry's symptoms. Curry remained healthy until March 30, when he complained of chest pain and was later diagnosed to have heart arrhythmia. A leading cardiologist eventually advised the Bulls to have Curry take a DNA test that could determine if he is genetically predisposed to a potentially fatal heart condition. Doctors feared that Curry had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a condition that contributed to the deaths of basketball players Reggie Lewis and Hank Gathers.

Curry declined to take the DNA test and was later traded with Antonio Davis to the Knicks for Tim Thomas, Michael Sweetney and Jermaine Jackson. The deal became finalized after Knicks doctors cleared Curry to play. The Knicks did not ask Curry to take a DNA test.

"Three years ago, Eddy told the Chicago newspapers that his mother had had a mild heart attack," Paxson told SI.com. "Later we asked him about it, and he said that no, it wasn't true. Of course, we were not able to (confirm) that kind of information."