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dirt_dobber
04-21-2006, 11:23 AM
I'm hoping for a upset in this series or at the least for the Kings to push the spurs to seven games.

I'm hoping for an Artest vs Manu battle, I want Manu at least worn out before we play them in the 2nd round.

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dirt_dobber
04-21-2006, 11:24 AM
Artest labels Kings as favorites against Spurs

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Ron Artest stayed in the Sacramento Kings' practice complex long after his teammates left Thursday, firing jumper after jumper with his injured right thumb heavily wrapped.

After watching most of the last 1 1/2 NBA seasons from his couch, Artest is more than ready for his return to the playoffs - and he seems completely unworried to see the defending NBA champion San Antonio Spurs across the court, playing outstanding basketball and coming off their best regular season in franchise history.

In fact, Artest thinks the Spurs should be worried about the eighth-seeded Kings.

"I don't even think we're the underdogs any more," Artest said. "I think we're the team to beat, just by how we've been playing."

In the opening game of the series on Saturday, the Spurs will begin the pursuit of their fourth title in eight seasons. The Kings are just at the start of their journey, with most of their core expected back next season to build on the tumultuous adventures of this season.

After a dismal start in which coach Rick Adelman questioned his own job security, the Kings surged to a 25-11 finish shortly after Artest joined the team in a trade with Indiana for Peja Stojakovic. They hit the playoffs in full stride, winning nine of their last 11 games - including a 97-87 victory at San Antonio on April 5.

But the improvement wasn't enough to avoid the top-seeded Spurs in the longtime Western Conference powers' first postseason meeting. Artest predicted the Kings would make the playoffs back in January during the height of their disarray, and he now says he expects Sacramento to leave the postseason "No. 1. They're No. 1 now, but I think we'll leave No. 1."

Bold words from a bold player - but don't mistake Artest's bravado for a lack of respect for his opponents. Artest speaks in glowing terms of the Spurs' defensive intensity, and he relishes being on the road in hostile arenas during his first postseason in the Western Conference.

"There are going to be a lot of road games coming up," Artest said. "I'm sure San Antonio is going to be ready for us, so we've got to come in there with a lot of energy and confidence. We're on the road this whole playoffs, so that's where we've got to win. We've got to make it our home away from home."

Artest's ebullience stands out on a roster full of quiet players who prefer to lead by example when they lead at all. The Kings have taken on much of Artest's personality since he joined them - no-excuses defense coupled with bursts of outstanding offensive play and a general swagger that was missing earlier in the season.

The Spurs have plenty of swagger after winning two titles in the last three seasons - and the Kings aren't fooled by their victory at the AT&T Center earlier in the month. That game was the second half of back-to-back contests for the Spurs, who had the NBA's second-best record at 63-19.

"It's not going to be the same team we saw in there last time," Adelman said. "Other than Detroit, they were the most consistent team in the league this year on a game-by-game basis. That's how they got to where they are."

u2sarajevo
04-21-2006, 11:26 AM
I think I know a sure-fire way of getting the Kings to upset the Spurs.... petition the league(apparently that's a recurring theme for me today) to have the Kings/Spurs series have 4 back-to-back games...... But first we would have to change it to a best of nine I guess.

Male30Dan
04-21-2006, 11:43 AM
I think I know a sure-fire way of getting the Kings to upset the Spurs.... petition the league(apparently that's a recurring theme for me today) to have the Kings/Spurs series have 4 back-to-back games...... But first we would have to change it to a best of nine I guess.

Well, in that scenario I would think the following would happen:

Gm 1 Sunday - SPURS WIN
Gm 2 Monday - KINGS WIN
Gm 3 Wednesday - SPURS WIN
Gm 4 Thursday - KINGS WIN
Gm 5 Saturday - SPURS WIN
Gm 6 Sunday - KINGS WIN
Gm 7 Tuesday - SPURS WIN
Gm 8 Wednesday - KINGS WIN
Gm 9 Friday - SPURS WIN

Hey, at least they will be tired! ;)

mary
04-21-2006, 11:50 AM
Hell no I don't want an upset. I don't want anything to derive me the pleasure of watching my Mavs administer a 2nd round ass kicking to the Spurs.

TripleDipping
04-21-2006, 12:07 PM
Gotta love the nuttiness of Artest.

chumdawg
04-21-2006, 12:34 PM
At this point we might need to root for the Spurs to win the series, if we want to win the second round.

u2sarajevo
04-21-2006, 01:31 PM
I ain't scurred of the Kings.

nashtymavsfan13
04-21-2006, 03:04 PM
At this point we might need to root for the Spurs to win the series, if we want to win the second round.

So you think we have a better chance against the Spurs than the Kings? I think we can win against either, but would prefer the Kings.

u2sarajevo
04-21-2006, 03:10 PM
Me thinks chumdawg is a big fan of (in my best girlie man voice...) SHOCK VALUE!!!!!

Dtownsfinest
04-21-2006, 03:12 PM
Sac and Spurs should be a good one. For the Mavs i'd prefer the Kings win but as a Mavs fan knowing the past between the Mavs and Spurs I say give me the Spurs. In order to be the best you have to beat the best as far as i'm concerned. I wouldn't take the Spurs lightly. Seems like they only had problems this regular season on back to back games and those don't occur in the playoffs. The Spurs go as far as Tony Parker takes them IMO but Duncan is the deciding factor. If he's 80-90% Duncan they have the chance to go all the way. If he's back to back Duncan than theyr'e going to be in trouble.

sixeightmkw
04-21-2006, 03:16 PM
As a Mavs fan, I WANT
GRIZZ
SA
PHX
DET

If we don't get respect after beating all of them then I know the NBA will be a joke.

dalmations202
04-21-2006, 03:22 PM
As a Mavs fan, I WANT
GRIZZ
SA
PHX
DET

If we don't get respect after beating all of them then I know the NBA IS a joke.

Absolutely agreed.

MavsFanFinley
04-21-2006, 04:15 PM
Go Spurs !!

I think Artest's thumb injury could be a deciding factor. He looked awful in that last regular season game. The Parker-Bibby matchup should be fun to watch as well.

birdsanctuary
04-21-2006, 05:11 PM
The Kings will beat up the Sp*rs and TD a bit, but Spurs will win in 6...

nashtymavsfan13
04-21-2006, 05:17 PM
The Kings will beat up the Sp*rs and TD a bit, but Spurs will win in 6...

sounds good, except i say in 5 games. there will be a couple close ones that the Spurs will grind out and get the W.

rakesh.s
04-21-2006, 10:51 PM
The kings will be lucky if they get one game....

I'm sure the spurs are tired of hearing about how artest thinks the kings are the favorites going into the series.. They are going to beat the hell out of them just to send a message.

chumdawg
04-21-2006, 10:56 PM
I'm sorry, but if you truly believe the Kings are getting swept, then you just don't understand how these things come out. The Kings are probably a 95% favorite to win at least one game. They are probably about a 65% favorite to win at least two. They are probably around 50% to win three...

Evilmav2
04-21-2006, 11:08 PM
I'll be amazed if this series doesn't go to 6 or 7 games. The Sp*rs are tired and hurting, while the Kings are peaking and healthy, and additionally, San Antonio will not find it easy to win even a single game in the bedlam that is Arco arena.

Ron-Ron and co. won't win this business, but I'd bet that they'll be able to extend the series, batter the Kings black and blue, and ultimately leave those creaking old San Antonio bones hurting by the time they make it into the second round to play our likely well rested Mavs...

Drbio
04-21-2006, 11:40 PM
I'm sorry, but if you truly believe the Kings are getting swept, then you just don't understand how these things come out. The Kings are probably a 95% favorite to win at least one game. They are probably about a 65% favorite to win at least two. They are probably around 50% to win three...

agreed.

Thespiralgoeson
04-22-2006, 12:20 AM
The Kings match up VERY well with the Spurs. Very well indeed. This is gonna be a great series. I'll be quite surprised if it doesn't go 6 games, and not surprised at all if it goes 7.

Bibby vs Parker
Wells vs Bowen
Artest vs Manu
Thomas/SAR vs Duncan
Miller vs Mohammed/Rasho

The Spurs are deeper, and the Kings don't really have an answer for Duncan, but of all the opponents SA could've faced in the first round, I think the Kings are BY FAR the best-suited to give the Spurs a good fight.

dirno2000
04-22-2006, 12:45 AM
Can the Kings keep Duncan and Nazr off the glass, and can they keep Parker from shooting layups all series? I'm guessing no on both counts. I keep trying to talk myself into liking Sac's chances but I see this as a 4 or 5 games series.

Hope you guys are right on this one.

dirt_dobber
04-22-2006, 05:42 AM
I wonder which "Nick" will show up, the one that takes very untimely 3's or the one who creates off the dribble for his teammates and makes killer 3's.

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alby
04-22-2006, 12:13 PM
this will be a hell of a series
if it goes to 6 or 7, u can't ask for more if you're a basketball fan

TVI
04-22-2006, 02:29 PM
I'm sorry, but if you truly believe the Kings are getting swept, then you just don't understand how these things come out. The Kings are probably a 95% favorite to win at least one game. They are probably about a 65% favorite to win at least two. They are probably around 50% to win three...Where do you get these stats from, or do you just pull them out of the air?
;)

birdsanctuary
04-22-2006, 02:30 PM
If Sack wants any chance of winning this series they have to win it in 6. The Sack fans that I get on the Radio, (2 hrs I live from Sac) think the'll win it in 7.

Sack fans NEWS FLASH, there is NO way you can win this series in 7! Be happy if you can avoid the sweep and last 5...

Drbio
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Hell no I don't want an upset. I don't want anything to derive me the pleasure of watching my Mavs administer a 2nd round ass kicking to the Spurs.

Damn straight mary!!!!!

MavsFanFinley
04-22-2006, 05:06 PM
Spurs come out nailing shots. Only Duncan struggling offensively. I think he's 1-4. Both Finley and NVE have come in to hit 3's.

Spurs are on fire!!

vjz
04-22-2006, 05:23 PM
Spurs (mainly Parker and Van Excel) ripping the Kings a new one. Up by 25.

Milles
04-22-2006, 05:27 PM
Looks like the vets have been awakened for the real season.
NVE 3/4 = 11 pts
Fin 1/1 = 3 pts
Horry 2/2 = 5
Bowen 2/2 = 6

They are shooting 67 % ....

Oh, and Parker 6/8 = 16pts

rakesh.s
04-22-2006, 05:29 PM
game over

You are not coming back from 30 down against the spurs

MavsFanFinley
04-22-2006, 05:30 PM
The Spurs are simply destroying the Kings. Not just the shooting, which is impressive alone, but the Spurs are showing that suffocating defense. There even making their ft's.

The Spurs bench is dominating the Kings bench. 24-6 in points.

rakesh.s
04-22-2006, 05:36 PM
i don't really blame artest for saying that they could win this series..you do need confidence going into the playoffs and I'm sure he made those remarks to fire up his team.

It doesn't seem to have worked though.

vjz
04-22-2006, 05:42 PM
73-39 Spurs. At the half. 3pm-a: 8-11

MavsFanFinley
04-22-2006, 05:50 PM
73-39 at the half. That's just ridiculous. And that Finley 3 was almost in at the buzzer.

Bowen (16) 2-2, 2-2, 6pts, 2rbs, 1as, 1to
Duncan (16) 2-5, 4-6, 8pts, 4rbs, 3as
Nazr (13) 1-1, 2-2, 4pts, 3rbs, 1to, 3blks
Parker (16) 9-11, 0-1, 5-5, 23pts, 1rb, 2as, 1stl
Ginobli (12) 3-5, 6pts, 4rbs, 2as, 1to
Finley (11) 2-3, 1-2, 5pts, 4rbs, 1as
Horry (10) 2-2, 1-1, 5pts, 4rbs, 1as, 1to
NVE (7) 3-5, 3-3, 2-2, 11pts, 1as, 1stl
Barry (7) 1-2, 1-2, 3pts, 1rb, 3as
Rasho (7) 1-2, 2pts, 3rbs

Spurs shooting: 69%, 73%, 87%

Kings shooting: 41%, 50%, 71%

Spurs 26-10 rebounds

The Spurs bench stepping up.

nashtymavsfan13
04-22-2006, 05:58 PM
The Sactown Queens are getting raped.

NXperience
04-22-2006, 06:05 PM
It's a massacre ... poor Kings

rabbitproof
04-22-2006, 06:19 PM
Hand it to the Spurs. All this nonsense about Kings winning, taking it to 7.. I still think we will see a lot of close game and hopefully the Kings do beat up the Spurs some but this series will be done in 5.

Mavs can't let the Grizz linger and better bring the pain.

Milles
04-22-2006, 06:29 PM
Finley for 3 at the buzzer.

67/94 end of the 3rd Q

MavsFanFinley
04-22-2006, 06:39 PM
Finley had a nice game. Not just shooting wise but also chipped in 7 rebounds (tied with Duncan to lead the team) and 2 assists.

nashtymavsfan13
04-22-2006, 06:46 PM
Finley had a nice game. Not just shooting wise but also chipped in 7 rebounds (tied with Duncan to lead the team) and 2 assists.

I can tell you're a Finley fan, but please tell me you like the Mavs and not the Spurs?

MavsFanFinley
04-22-2006, 06:48 PM
I'll be rooting for the Mavs if they face the Spurs in the 2nd round. I just want the Spurs and Finley to do well until then.

nashtymavsfan13
04-22-2006, 06:51 PM
I'll be rooting for the Mavs if they face the Spurs in the 2nd round. I just want the Spurs and Finley to do well until then.


Ok, well that's good.

Drbio
04-22-2006, 07:05 PM
San Antone sent a pretty darned clear message. ouch.

MavsFanFinley
04-22-2006, 07:09 PM
Spurs win 122-88.

Bowen (24) 2-2, 2-2, 6pts, 2rbs, 1as, 1to
Duncan (24) 3-6, 5-7, 11pts, 7rbs, 3as, 1stl
Nazr (25) 6-6, 1-1, 5-6, 18pts, 8rbs, 3tos, 3blks
Parker (25) 9-15, 0-1, 7-7, 25pts, 5rbs, 4as, 1to, 1stl
Ginobli (22) 5-10, 0-1, 10pts, 5rbs, 2as, 3tos
Finley (20) 3-6, 2-3, 2-2, 10pts, 7rbs, 2as
Horry (15) 2-3, 1-2, 3-4, 8pts, 5rbs, 1as, 2tos, 2blks
NVE (17) 3-8, 3-4, 2-2, 11pts, 1as, 1to, 1stl
Barry (23) 2-6, 2-4, 6pts, 2rbs, 6as, 1stl
Rasho (23) 4-6, 2-2, 10pts, 7rbs, 1as
Oberto (8) 1-1, 1-2, 3pts, 1rb, 1to, 1stl, 1blk
Udrih (8) 2-4, 4pts, 2rbs, 4as

Drbio
04-22-2006, 07:16 PM
That was just a good old Texas ass whupin'.

DirkGoesNuclear
04-22-2006, 08:17 PM
I don't think Duncan should be double team unless he is killing you down low. The Spurs actually want you to do that while they line up their shooters on the arc. Finley, Bowen, NVE, Barry. If you look at NVE's game he is a reluctant 2 pt shooter. Finley too. Maybe he's instructed not to go too much 1-on-1 and take shots from the other guys.

Btw, when is KVH coming back? Was it his shooting hand that he broke? We seriously need another 3pt shooter to line the arc.

TheBlueVan
04-22-2006, 08:20 PM
it wouldnt be until the very end of the 2nd round at the earliest i think, dont know about which hand it was. i wonder if the kings will show up next game...

DirkGoesNuclear
04-22-2006, 08:30 PM
If Spurs sweep, and we get stretched by Memphis, then we'd go into the Spurs series at a disadvantage (for the 3rd time)

nashtymavsfan13
04-22-2006, 08:33 PM
If Spurs sweep, and we get stretched by Memphis, then we'd go into the Spurs series at a disadvantage (for the 3rd time)

The Spurs will win in 5, and we'll win in 5 too.

We should be fine.

chumdawg
04-22-2006, 10:53 PM
Spurs win 122-88.

Bowen (24) 2-2, 2-2, 6pts, 2rbs, 1as, 1to
Duncan (24) 3-6, 5-7, 11pts, 7rbs, 3as, 1stl
Nazr (25) 6-6, 1-1, 5-6, 18pts, 8rbs, 3tos, 3blks
Parker (25) 9-15, 0-1, 7-7, 25pts, 5rbs, 4as, 1to, 1stl
Ginobli (22) 5-10, 0-1, 10pts, 5rbs, 2as, 3tos
Finley (20) 3-6, 2-3, 2-2, 10pts, 7rbs, 2as
Horry (15) 2-3, 1-2, 3-4, 8pts, 5rbs, 1as, 2tos, 2blks
NVE (17) 3-8, 3-4, 2-2, 11pts, 1as, 1to, 1stl
Barry (23) 2-6, 2-4, 6pts, 2rbs, 6as, 1stl
Rasho (23) 4-6, 2-2, 10pts, 7rbs, 1as
Oberto (8) 1-1, 1-2, 3pts, 1rb, 1to, 1stl, 1blk
Udrih (8) 2-4, 4pts, 2rbs, 4asFinley's seven boards in only twenty minutes is nothing less than SALTY! Fine production for the cagey vet in his first playoff action of the year.

Thespiralgoeson
04-22-2006, 11:00 PM
That game was quite a statement, but I don't really think it means a whole lot. This series could still easily go six games. Remember, Phoenix whooped up on the Mavs in a similar fasion in game 1 last year and that was still a six game series.

MavsFanFinley
04-22-2006, 11:08 PM
It's not just doubling Duncan that caused the Kings problems. They couldn't stop Parker or Ginobli from getting to the rim either. Which adjustment do you make?

dirno2000
04-22-2006, 11:22 PM
That game was quite a statement, but I don't really think it means a whole lot. This series could still easily go six games. Remember, Phoenix whooped up on the Mavs in a similar fasion in game 1 last year and that was still a six game series.

That's true but we were coming off of an emotional 7 game series and PXH was coming off of a sweep. Like I said yesterday, I don't see how the Kings contain Parker. Bibby is one of the worst defensive PG's in the league and they have the weakest frontline in the league behind him.

nashtymavsfan13
04-23-2006, 12:54 AM
It's not just doubling Duncan that caused the Kings problems. They couldn't stop Parker or Ginobli from getting to the rim either. Which adjustment do you make?

I don't think the Kings have the tools to stop the constant penatration of Parker and Ginobli. They need someone that can block shots and clog up the paint, someone like Diop. Instead they have a very soft center that can't block shots. I really don't think the Kings have a chance of winning this series. They could win a game or two, but not four because they can't stop Parker and Ginobli.

Thespiralgoeson
04-23-2006, 03:35 AM
. Like I said yesterday, I don't see how the Kings contain Parker.

Ron Artest.

I think at this point, Duncan clearly not someone who should command a double-team on a regular basis. If he gets hot, sure, but this year he's just not the scorer he's been in the past. Adleman is a good coach. I'll be surprised if he can't figure a way to steal two games.

dirno2000
04-23-2006, 09:53 AM
Artest is a physical defender but he's not nearly quick enough to guard Parker, or most point guards in the league for that matter.

Yesterday's came was clearly an abberation. SA isn't 40 points better than the Kings. They are, however, 5-10 points better on most nights. The Kings have weaknesses that are too easy for a good team to exploit.

If that isn't enough, they get 2 days rest between games because the league want to televise every game.

I hope that can bounce back and make it a hard faught 6 or 7 game series but I'm not confident.

alby
04-23-2006, 12:17 PM
that was horrible to watch

i left early from the gym for nothing.

Dtownsfinest
04-23-2006, 12:42 PM
That was one of the most dominant first half's i've ever seen in recent years in the post season. Kings just had no answer for Ginobilli and Parker. The box score doesn't even show how dominant they were. They just went into the lane at will. Artest could be the answer for Parker but who's the answer for Ginobilli? Bibby? Bonzi? That's where the problem with the Kings become evident IMO. Outside of Artest, they have no one who can guard out on the perimeter and to make matters worse they have no shot blocker. I thought it was a possibility this series could go to 7 but its looking like a sweep or a 5 game series.


Good game by Mike. I thought he played some good defense out there aside from a couple of goof ups. Bonzi is not a good matchup for him IMO. I'm shocked that Aldeman doesn't use Bonzi in the post more against him. That Fin 3 to end the half damn near went in lol. Looks like those old vets for the Spurs have waken up at the right time. Spurs are a lot deeper than I thought. I forgot they had Beno Udrih sitting on the pine over there. For their garbage minutes they had Brent Barry and Nick Van Exel out there playing as well as Nazr Mohammed who starts for them. That's what I call deep.

Thespiralgoeson
04-23-2006, 02:45 PM
Artest is a physical defender but he's not nearly quick enough to guard Parker, or most point guards in the league for that matter.


Probably not, but he'd do a better job on Parker than Bibby I'd wager.

TVI
04-23-2006, 05:28 PM
Ron Artest.On Parker? Artest is a good defender, especially against bigger, slower guards, or small forwards, but I seriously doubt that he's quick enough to contain Parker.

For the Kings to have a snowball's chance, they need to concentrate on help defense (something they haven't shown much of to date), and force Parker to make the extra pass. Simply putting another defender on him probably isn't going to work -- he's too quick. Sending over a double team, and forcing him to give up the ball might help, but then Ginobili's pretty good at making decisions in the half court, so pick your poison. Plus, if they double Parker, then Duncan will probably become much more involved, and the Kings don't want that, I guarantee you. They'll live with Parker beating them, but they have no prayer of containing Duncan.
Miller's too slow, and nobody else is long enough (maybe SAR?) or strong enough.

Just my HO.

dirno2000
04-25-2006, 05:52 PM
Looks like Kevin Martin is going to draw the assignment.

sp3nc3r13
04-25-2006, 06:22 PM
Predicting a Sacramento win tonight. I think they will be fired up without Artest. Thoughts?

u2sarajevo
04-25-2006, 06:29 PM
Predicting a Sacramento win tonight. I think they will be fired up without Artest. Thoughts?I would agree with that if Manu and Duncan were unavailable. Otherwise, pass the pipe.

Ninkobei
04-25-2006, 06:47 PM
any discussion on the kings pullin an upset on the spurs (in the series that is, one game I guess is acceptable, but unlikely) is an absolute joke.

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 08:29 PM
Off to work.

Go Spurs!!

MavKikiNYC
04-25-2006, 09:01 PM
Jalen Rose as a commentator: Yuck.

sp3nc3r13
04-25-2006, 09:08 PM
Jalen Rose as a commentator: Yuck.

Haha agreed.

rakesh.s
04-25-2006, 10:14 PM
nick van exel nailing him with sweaty towels was hilarious.

In HDTV, you can see the moisture jump off the towels as it hits Jalen Rose. Classic stuff.

sp3nc3r13
04-25-2006, 10:21 PM
Is it just me or does Mike Bibby not seem as effective as he was when he has played against us in years past?

nashtymavsfan13
04-25-2006, 10:23 PM
Is it just me or does Mike Bibby not seem as effective as he was when he has played against us in years past?

It certainly seems that way.

Drbio
04-25-2006, 10:40 PM
Nice to see Dick Bavetta farking up someone else's game for a change. That guy sucks balls.

Triple T's
04-25-2006, 11:00 PM
yes !!!!! KMART

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:00 PM
Spurs looking like shit tonight. Only down 5 but they better snap out of it if they want to go to Sacramento up 2-0.

Martin and Wells destroying the Spurs. Bibby and Miller are no shows but it might not matter.

Wow, big shot by Finley.

chumdawg
04-25-2006, 11:02 PM
Cold-blooded three by Finley there to bring the Spurs back within two with a bit over eight to play. Just when the Spurs were lifeless and the Kings were looking to assume control of this tilt...

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:11 PM
Go kings...

sp3nc3r13
04-25-2006, 11:13 PM
Really intense game. Duncan is really just NOT that good.

Triple T's
04-25-2006, 11:14 PM
seriosuly since when did the spurs become so perimeter oriented? so many 3's. I guess they got sucked into run and gun by the kings. sooner or later theyll start missing.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:20 PM
Go kings!

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:21 PM
Rahim killing the Spurs in the 4th quarter. He's put them up 3 with 45+ seconds.

Spurs are going down unfortunately.

chumdawg
04-25-2006, 11:21 PM
Shareef is playing man-sized in this game, and making Duncan look really, really old. Parker and Duncan with horrible, not-even-close misses in the last two minutes. The pseudo-dynasty is on its last legs, and starting to wobble!

chumdawg
04-25-2006, 11:22 PM
P.S. Only Mike Finley can save them now.

dirno2000
04-25-2006, 11:22 PM
I always thought Rahim was a little soft but he's letting em' hang tonight...

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:24 PM
Big fucking shot by Finley. I can't believe they ran a play for him in this situation.

Wells choking on ft's.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:24 PM
Ouch bonzi isn't going to sleep very good tonight if he doesn't hit this ft.

Scoobay
04-25-2006, 11:25 PM
big shot rob into the game...

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:25 PM
Unfortunately my ass MavsFan... Unfortunately my ass!!!

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:28 PM
I guess Bonzi won't get to miss anymore. Bonzi looks like he's put on some poundage.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:28 PM
CRAP!

Such BS on that call... Just GIVE them two free throws because that little punk trips on his own puss...

P.S. THATS WHAT HE GETS!!!

Scoobay
04-25-2006, 11:28 PM
ha manu misses!

Dtownsfinest
04-25-2006, 11:29 PM
I'm not sure if Bonzi fouling out is what the Spurs really wanted on that possession. He's been the worst free throw shooter on the team today.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:29 PM
CRAP!

Such BS on that call... Just GIVE them two free throws because that little punk trips on his own puss...

P.S. THATS WHAT HE GETS!!!

My angle looked pretty bad, but that looked pretty iffy.

Manu can't shoot 'em any better than bonzi could.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:30 PM
My angle looked pretty bad, but that looked pretty iffy.

Manu can't shoot 'em any better than bonzi could.

I assure you, he didn't foul Manu... Manu tripped up and the ref blew his whistle like always...

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:31 PM
Martin winning this game for Sac?

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:31 PM
Ye' hah... Put this one in and let's go.

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:32 PM
OH HECK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

chumdawg
04-25-2006, 11:32 PM
The Spurs are crazy if they don't insert Fin here.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:32 PM
Martin winning this game for Sac?

He looks like he's got some cajones.

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:33 PM
SAR and Martin have played some pretty good ball. :D

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:33 PM
Manu choked.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:33 PM
What to do???

Go for two?

Three by Horry?

Three by Finley?

So many options!

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:33 PM
Crazy!

Barry for 3

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:33 PM
Do you believe that crap?

chumdawg
04-25-2006, 11:33 PM
Oh, Barry with the friendly roll. :(

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:33 PM
OMFG. That was the luckiest bounce I've seen by Barry. Goodness.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:34 PM
San Antonio doesn't have timeouts. Don't let 'em have a 3. If they come into the lane let 'em have it, inbound the ball, make them make a 2..

Sheesh kings, let manu have that damn layup...Bibby..idiot.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:34 PM
GET THE WIN SAC... GET THE WIN... IF IT GOES TO OVERTIME, YOU LOSE IN SA... GET THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!

Dtownsfinest
04-25-2006, 11:34 PM
Damn. The reaction of the fans on that 3 was priceless. Its going to suck if Spurs lose this after making that 3.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:34 PM
COME ON SAC

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:35 PM
BULLSHIT!

dirno2000
04-25-2006, 11:35 PM
Tim Duncan got away with a moving screen...guess they're not giong to call it at that point

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:35 PM
Dumb-butt bibby. Idiot.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:35 PM
Game over...

I don't care what you say, S.A. wins this game in Overtime!

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:35 PM
Overtime. :(

Dtownsfinest
04-25-2006, 11:36 PM
Kings really have a problem when the either Parker or Ginobilli penetrate into the paint. I mean goodness there's always a open 3 point shooter. Maybe that's where they miss Artest but they did this same crap last game.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:36 PM
I guess the Kings can at least take away a moral victory without Artest???

Sigh! :(

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:37 PM
Barkley's right. Stupid defense.

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:37 PM
Duncan has 5 fouls so I wouldn't say SA automatically wins.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:38 PM
Good grief where was THAT foul?

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:38 PM
Duncan has 5 fouls so I wouldn't say SA automatically wins.

Sure they do SpursFanFinley!!! ;)

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:38 PM
Duncan choked....LOL!

sp3nc3r13
04-25-2006, 11:39 PM
All the Kings have logged such heavy minutes and no Bonzi, I am not feeling so hot about this right now.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:39 PM
There is that GREAT Kings defense... Nice!

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:40 PM
Bibby wants to win boy!

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:40 PM
Stupid ass Bibby.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:40 PM
If they think they are going to win with biby shooting all of those they are sadly mistaken. But bibby's been kinda wack.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:41 PM
Maybe he doesn't want to win with that pass!

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:41 PM
REALLY Stupid ass Bibby.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:41 PM
So much for Bibby wanting to win... Like I said... Game over!

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:42 PM
That's the 2nd time Bibby has fouled someone shooting the 3. First time was NVE. Stupid play.

Dtownsfinest
04-25-2006, 11:42 PM
You know Bibby did get Ginobilli on that 3 but goodness why does he overact every time he's trying to sell a foul? This sounds foul but I honestly wish one day he gets injured trying to sell a foul when a player gives him a love tap.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:42 PM
Bibby has single handedly given SA 5 points in the past minute!

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:43 PM
Nike is really pushing out some serious dough to win LeBron the MVP.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:44 PM
You know Bibby did get Ginobilli on that 3 but goodness why does he overact every time he's trying to sell a foul? This sounds foul but I honestly wish one day he gets injured trying to sell a foul when a player gives him a love tap.

You are kind... I hope he gets injured walking his dog... I hate him...

Geez... I have a lot of hate in me tonight... First CoCo... Now Manu...

Sigh! :(

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:44 PM
3 of 16???

Did I read that right Bibby?

Dtownsfinest
04-25-2006, 11:44 PM
Kings without Artest=probably one of the worst defenses to ever participate in the playoffs. I hope Abdur Rahim decides to show up next game as well as Martin.

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:45 PM
What the heck was that?????

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:45 PM
3 of 16???

Did I read that right Bibby?

Oh, and he is 2 of 3 in overtime, so I guess he was 1 of 13 to end regulation???

Damn!

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:46 PM
What the heck was that?????

Refs giving the game to SA!

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:46 PM
3 of 16???

Did I read that right Bibby?

Yep. He was 1-13 at the end of regulation. He and Miller have really laid eggs tonight. Of course it was ok with the way Bonzi, Martin, and Rahim were playing.

Dtownsfinest
04-25-2006, 11:47 PM
3 of 16???

Did I read that right Bibby?


You know and he's the guy you would expect to step his game up against the Spurs since he's never had a problem with Parker guarding him. Just imagine if he even showed up a little bit lol. There would be no overtime. I missed the first half so maybe Bowen or whoever is to credit for that statline but in the second half Bibby has done squat and I wouldn't give too much credit to the Spurs defense.

Male30Dan
04-25-2006, 11:48 PM
F#$@#$ THE SPURS!

Drbio
04-25-2006, 11:48 PM
Crud. Ballgame.


Later peeps.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:48 PM
What a huge difference in the teams.

Kings have bibby tossing up junk and getting abdul-rahim on a 15+ footer. Not one single drive to the basket.

Spurs nothing but drives to the basket.

It's the difference between championship ball (spurs/mavs) and pretenders in this nba.

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:49 PM
Spurs win this unless the Kings unleash some 3's.

It's nice Bibby decided to hit some shots but why did they go away from Martin? I know it sounds silly but the Spurs didn't have an answer for him tonight. Rahim was killing them early but he's missed a couple shots now.

dirno2000
04-25-2006, 11:50 PM
I wish Sac would have laid down like they did Sunday. I got so emotionally envolved in that game I feel like the Mavs just lost.

Dtownsfinest
04-25-2006, 11:50 PM
What a huge difference in the teams.

Kings have bibby tossing up junk and getting abdul-rahim on a 15+ footer. Not one single drive to the basket.

Spurs nothing but drives to the basket.

It's the difference between championship ball (spurs/mavs) and pretenders in this nba.


Well to the Kings credit they attacked the basket in the 4th. Why they went away from it is beyond me. Why Shareef is now shooting mid range jumpers boggles my mind. And why the hell is Duncan still in the game? They're not even going at him anymore.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:51 PM
Anybody want to get Brad Miller now? Sheesh he's been a dissappointment. First time....FIRST TIME...they've gone inside and duncan can't do anything about it.

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:53 PM
Mike Bibby's one shining moment got him the contract. Nada since then.

MavsFanFinley
04-25-2006, 11:53 PM
Who says Finley can't play defense? Fin trapped Bibby in the corner nicely and he turns it over. Haha.

Rahim came alive and I thought he'd lead them to victory but Manu finds Rasho for a beautiful play.

What a brainfart by Duncan and Parker on that turnover, huh?

Dtownsfinest
04-25-2006, 11:53 PM
LMAO@Aldeman's face after Bibby lost the ball. Mini Me is garbage. He cost the Kings this game.

sike
04-25-2006, 11:58 PM
I have never wanted to kick someone in the face so bad as I want to kick Jon Berry....I want to kick the lucky right outta him!

dude1394
04-25-2006, 11:59 PM
Who says Finley can't play defense? Fin trapped Bibby in the corner nicely and he turns it over. Haha.


Well.....Looked to me like he just dribbled it off his foot. :)

chumdawg
04-26-2006, 12:03 AM
What a huge difference in the teams.

Kings have bibby tossing up junk and getting abdul-rahim on a 15+ footer. Not one single drive to the basket.

Spurs nothing but drives to the basket.

It's the difference between championship ball (spurs/mavs) and pretenders in this nba.Did you see what happened when Rahim got near the basket? The Spurs double-teamed the crap out of him.

Do you think that the Spurs are just going to simply let you drive to the basket against them, just because you are a card-carrying member of the Championship Ball Playing Type Clubs?

dude1394
04-26-2006, 12:09 AM
Did you see what happened when Rahim got near the basket? The Spurs double-teamed the crap out of him.

Do you think that the Spurs are just going to simply let you drive to the basket against them, just because you are a card-carrying member of the Championship Ball Playing Type Clubs?

Did you see what happened when the kings went at the hoop, they scored. What are you talking about. Shareff scored at will in the post, duncan was barely there.

So what are you saying, those bibby shots and shareff 15 footers are what you want in overtime when every single time down the court the spurs are going to the hoop and getting fts'?

And if they are doubling him then someone should be open for a NOT contested shot.

MavsFanFinley
04-26-2006, 12:11 AM
Well.....Looked to me like he just dribbled it off his foot. :)

Finley distracted him and Bibby took his eye of the ball and it went off his leg/foot. I don't remember the last time I saw Fin move his feet laterally like that. I'm not saying it was all him but Bibby would have had a layup if Fin hadn't cut off the baseline.

dude1394
04-26-2006, 12:12 AM
Finley distracted him and Bibby took his eye of the ball and it went off his leg/foot. I don't remember the last time I saw Fin move his feet laterally like that. I'm not saying it was all him but Bibby would have had a layup if Fin hadn't cut off the baseline.

Okay. :)...

He did cut off the baseline, but I would expect him to do that to be honest.

sp3nc3r13
04-26-2006, 12:13 AM
Finley distracted him and Bibby took his eye of the ball and it went off his leg/foot. I don't remember the last time I saw Fin move his feet laterally like that. I'm not saying it was all him but Bibby would have had a layup if Fin hadn't cut off the baseline.

Damn you are all over Fin's nuts.

MavsFanFinley
04-26-2006, 12:28 AM
Damn you are all over Fin's nuts.

Nice. Mature too.

What's up with that? Because I compliment Fin's play? Just because damn near everyone else has written him off or want to see him fail doesn't mean I need to jump on that bandwagon.

I've made no secret that I want to see him succeed. I'm glad he's fit in with SA and even more happy to see him performing in the playoffs. Only 2 games but wasn't he considered washed up by almost everyone here?

chumdawg
04-26-2006, 12:28 AM
Did you see what happened when the kings went at the hoop, they scored. What are you talking about. Shareff scored at will in the post, duncan was barely there.

So what are you saying, those bibby shots and shareff 15 footers are what you want in overtime when every single time down the court the spurs are going to the hoop and getting fts'?

And if they are doubling him then someone should be open for a NOT contested shot.When the double the post guy, the open guy is usually NOT also underneath the basket.

I'm just saying that you oversimplify it dramatically to say that championship teams drive to the basket while pretenders shoot jumpers. You are basically saying nothing useful at all.

Or, did you not see all the jumpers San Antonio made in this game? I'm sure you did see them, but selective memory bias is helping you attribute their win to the layups.

dude1394
04-26-2006, 12:31 AM
When the double the post guy, the open guy is usually NOT also underneath the basket.

I'm just saying that you oversimplify it dramatically to say that championship teams drive to the basket while pretenders shoot jumpers. You are basically saying nothing useful at all.

Or, did you not see all the jumpers San Antonio made in this game? I'm sure you did see them, but selective memory bias is helping you attribute their win to the layups.

Yea I saw them chum, but they were off of kick-outs and not bibby taking contested 3pointers.

When wells went out the kings offense that was needed for this game went out as well.

And I'm talking about down the stretch during the overtime not the whole game. Again wells/shariff were playing plenty in the paint. But once Wells went out and bibby tried to take over it was over allright, nothing came close to the paint.

dude1394
04-26-2006, 12:32 AM
When the double the post guy, the open guy is usually NOT also underneath the basket.

You trying to just be obtuse or something. Of course the open guy is not underneath the basket. But the kings didn't force anything inside to FIND an open guy.

Thespiralgoeson
04-26-2006, 12:34 AM
Hell, at least the Kings took them to overtime and made the Spurs work for it. You never know, they could very well pull one out, maybe two before the series is over. We all know there's absolutely no chance of an upset here, but I still think the Kings can wear them down just a bit before the Mavs play them.

chumdawg
04-26-2006, 12:34 AM
Nice. Mature too.

What's up with that? Because I compliment Fin's play? Just because damn near everyone else has written him off or want to see him fail doesn't mean I need to jump on that bandwagon.

I've made no secret that I want to see him succeed. I'm glad he's fit in with SA and even more happy to see him performing in the playoffs. Only 2 games but wasn't he considered washed up by almost everyone here?Michael Finley is proving--once again--how valuable the old cagey vet is to a contending team in the playoffs. Well-times baskets, that's Finley. The three to cut it to 89-87, I think it was. The jumper inside of two minutes, when Duncan and Parker had just tossed a couple bricks up there on the preceding possessions. Well-timed baskets.

Finley has also always been a guy who would apply maximum pressure on defense when the situation warranted it. Whether it was Tracy McGrady who needed slowing down or Mike Bibby who needed a turnover, Finley was/is always there to be a pest.

While in his early years he was an offensive juggernaut and among the top five shooting guards in the league, in his later years he has become a complete player, combining well-timed offense with pesky defense and all the while bringing the kind of veteran character and leadership that contending teams dream of.

Thespiralgoeson
04-26-2006, 12:36 AM
Michael Finley is proving--once again--how valuable the old cagey vet is to a contending team in the playoffs. Well-times baskets, that's Finley. The three to cut it to 89-87, I think it was. The jumper inside of two minutes, when Duncan and Parker had just tossed a couple bricks up there on the preceding possessions. Well-timed baskets.

Finley has also always been a guy who would apply maximum pressure on defense when the situation warranted it. Whether it was Tracy McGrady who needed slowing down or Mike Bibby who needed a turnover, Finley was/is always there to be a pest.

While in his early years he was an offensive juggernaut and among the top five shooting guards in the league, in his later years he has become a complete player, combining well-timed offense with pesky defense and all the while bringing the kind of veteran character and leadership that contending teams dream of.

One thing is for damn sure. Finley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stackhouse. I sincerely wish we had Finley coming off the bench instead of Stack.

Dtownsfinest
04-26-2006, 12:37 AM
I think Fin has had a real solid series thus far. The Spurs have so many options that no one is really going to be able to go crazy on the stat chart but Fin has come through for them at key times. I guess last game there wasn't really many key times but tonight he hit a huge mid range jumper in the 4th. Popovich has a lot of faith in Finley in the 4th quarter. Its amazing this guy actually sat out in the 4th quarter last season for the Mavs but has found time to play in the clutch for the defending champs. Good for Mike.

rakesh.s
04-26-2006, 12:38 AM
Sac doesn't have enough to beat the Spurs. They have one guy that's worth a damn off the bench and that's Rahim.

Miller and Bibby have been stinking up the joint. Until they shore up their bench, they aren't going anywhere. They might win a game at Arco, but the Spurts should pull this one out in 5.

dude1394
04-26-2006, 12:38 AM
Only 2 games but wasn't he considered washed up by almost everyone here?

No I don't really think so MFF. At least not for the MLE, but for 50Mil or so, yea...

I never thought that Mike had a problem coming off the bench,but maybe he would have here. He may have needed to sort of come down so he could accept that.

But mike would look great as a 3pt specialist. Doesn't play a ton of defense but I would love to have another (or at least a third) shooter.

Dtownsfinest
04-26-2006, 12:38 AM
Michael Finley is proving--once again--how valuable the old cagey vet is to a contending team in the playoffs. Well-times baskets, that's Finley. The three to cut it to 89-87, I think it was. The jumper inside of two minutes, when Duncan and Parker had just tossed a couple bricks up there on the preceding possessions. Well-timed baskets.

Finley has also always been a guy who would apply maximum pressure on defense when the situation warranted it. Whether it was Tracy McGrady who needed slowing down or Mike Bibby who needed a turnover, Finley was/is always there to be a pest.

While in his early years he was an offensive juggernaut and among the top five shooting guards in the league, in his later years he has become a complete player, combining well-timed offense with pesky defense and all the while bringing the kind of veteran character and leadership that contending teams dream of.


Damn great post Chum.

dirno2000
04-26-2006, 12:39 AM
This has to be the most confrontational fan board on the net :)

dude1394
04-26-2006, 12:40 AM
This has to be the most confrontational fan board on the net :)

Ain't it great! :)

Dtownsfinest
04-26-2006, 12:42 AM
Nice. Mature too.

What's up with that? Because I compliment Fin's play? Just because damn near everyone else has written him off or want to see him fail doesn't mean I need to jump on that bandwagon.

I've made no secret that I want to see him succeed. I'm glad he's fit in with SA and even more happy to see him performing in the playoffs. Only 2 games but wasn't he considered washed up by almost everyone here?


I think the Finley discussion on this forum can get a little tense for some. Maybe it has to do with the Mavericks basically paying Michael Finley to help the Spurs win a championship. Fin becomes key to the Spurs in the clutch due to him being the only consistent free throw shooter on the team. That horrible free throw shooting the Spurs display is gonna end up biting them in the ass because Fin can't draw contact in the paint like Parker and Ginobilli can and they're the ones to worry about at the line.

rakesh.s
04-26-2006, 12:51 AM
Is it just me or does Mike Bibby not seem as effective as he was when he has played against us in years past?

He hasn't been the same player since his foot injury the season after(?) the series against the Lakers in 02, where he made his name.

rakesh.s
04-26-2006, 12:54 AM
finley sucks because he thought he was too good to take a bench role with the mavericks, but he goes and signs with SA and will do whatever it takes to win a ring.

Suck it up, play the bench role in Dallas and a win a ring here...don't go running to kiss Duncan and Poppovich's butt.

I would laugh my ass off if the mavs are celebrating a title come June and Finley is sitting at home and watching.

:)

Dtownsfinest
04-26-2006, 12:58 AM
finley sucks because he thought he was too good to take a bench role with the mavericks, but he goes and signs with SA and will do whatever it takes to win a ring.

Suck it up, play the bench role in Dallas and a win a ring here...don't go running to kiss Duncan and Poppovich's butt.

I would laugh my ass off if the mavs are celebrating a title come June and Finley is sitting at home and watching.

Finley didn't really leave the Mavericks. He was cut by the Mavericks. And who says Finley wouldn't take a bench role in Dallas? He loved it here. He believed in what the Mavericks were doing even when this team was nothing but run and gun. Give Fin a little more credit than that. He was nothing but a great professional here. Don't belittle him by saying he wouldn't take a bench role here because that statement is incorrect. Now if it was me i'd have a problem backing up Jerry Stackhouse or Marquis Daniels. Fin's goal is to win a ring and since he was cut by Dallas he went to the team that gave him his best chances. Had Finley signed with the Nuggets or the Magic Mavs fans would talk about how poor of a professional Finley is for not going to a legit contender.

sike
04-26-2006, 01:16 AM
One thing is for damn sure. Finley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stackhouse. I sincerely wish we had Finley coming off the bench instead of Stack.
wishes and nuts...my friend....wishes and nuts

lets not pretend that was an option anyway....Fin was not coming off the bench for AJ

Thespiralgoeson
04-26-2006, 01:26 AM
wishes and nuts...my friend....wishes and nuts

lets not pretend that was an option anyway....Fin was not coming off the bench for AJ

Never imagined it was an option. Just a wish. I also wish we could have Joe Johnson as our starting 2, but that ain't gonna happen either.

sike
04-26-2006, 01:29 AM
Never imagined it was an option. Just a wish. I also wish we could have Joe Johnson as our starting 2, but that ain't gonna happen either.
nah....I'd rather Jordan in his prime. you sir are guilty of thinking too small....and as for not even considering time travel as a potentiality....that is just on you!!

manu2finley
04-26-2006, 01:45 AM
what a game

Thespiralgoeson
04-26-2006, 01:50 AM
nah....I'd rather Jordan in his prime. you sir are guilty of thinking too small....and as for not even considering time travel as a potentiality....that is just on you!!

You're absolutely right. In addition to Jordan, how about we replace Jason Terry with Magic Johnson, Josh Howard with Larry Bird, and Dampier with Kareem. Then off the bench let's throw in say.... John Stockton and Jerry West.

TVI
04-26-2006, 05:56 AM
I have never wanted to kick someone in the face so bad as I want to kick Jon Berry....I want to kick the lucky right outta him!I think you mean Brent Barry. Jon last played for Houston, and now he's retired.

Once I heard Artest would be out, I was concerned about how the Spurs would react in this game. With all the stars seemingly aligned against Sacramento, I knew it would spell trouble for the Spurs, and I was right. The Kings no longer had any expectations to live up to, and the Spurs were soft and pathetic on defense tonight. They made Bonzi and SAR look like superstars, and it took some grand kismet from the basketball gods to pull this one out. Bibby sucked in this game, and yet the Kings still scored all over the place. Giving up 109 regulation points in playoff game is unforgivable. The Spurs came out in second half like they were serious, and then once they re-established themselves, promptly went back to sleep. I hope Pop calls them out and rips them a new one tomorrow.

Last night, it seemed like they were still in their sleepwalking-through-the-regular-season mentality. Duncan is not taking over games like he's capable of. I know the foot isn't 100%, and I know he was saddled with foul trouble, but if he doesn't step it up, the Spurs are toast against Dallas.

http://www.phidong.com/temp/eek4.gif (http://www.phidong.com/temp/eek4.gif)

Locked_Up_Tonight
04-26-2006, 06:46 AM
It was am extremely dumb play by Bibby. It cost them the game.

Five-ofan
04-26-2006, 09:12 AM
it was also a moving screen. Can anyone even begin to imagine the ripping dirk would take if SAR dominated him the way he did duncan? This isnt new folks. Its the foot injury thats causing it but duncan has not been a good man defender this year.

kriD
04-28-2006, 07:13 AM
Kings' Artest ready to make amends

Mike Monroe
Express-News Staff Writer

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Nobody had to tell Ron Artest how to spend his night of suspension on Saturday, when the Sacramento Kings' gifted, but occasionally troubled, small forward was left behind at the team's downtown San Antonio hotel as his teammates departed for the AT&T Center:

Take a pregame walk. Return to room before tipoff time. Order some room service. Tune the TV to the game.

"It wasn't like the first time," said Artest, suspended by the NBA for the final 73 games of the 2004-05 season and inactive for 25 games this season — in effect another suspension — imposed by the Indiana Pacers.

Kings coach Rick Adelman made it a point Thursday to tell Artest what he wants from him in Game3 of the playoff series. His message: Trust your teammates, and keep the ball moving.

How Artest plays in his return to the Kings provides an extra dose of intrigue to the game. Artest spoke at length Thursday, the first time since the league suspended him for throwing an elbow to Manu Ginobili's head in Game1. He said he is eager to play again but no more so than for any other playoff game. He said he took to heart Adelman's advice. He said he knows his defense is what is important in Game3.

Artest again will match up against Ginobili, who torched Artest's teammates for 32 points in Game2.

Can he keep Ginobili from having another such game?

"I'm not sure," he said. "He played great (in Game2). He was real aggressive. He really played like a champ."

Adelman understands that his team's ability to avoid an 3-0 deficit in the best-of-7 series isn't tied strictly to Artest's return. He is happy to have him back but won't hesitate to sit him if the Kings' offense stagnates again after a Game2 breakout. Adelman wants the Kings to keep pushing the pace.

"I think our big guys can run," Adelman said. "If they run, we've got to push the ball. Whoever gets it, whether it's Mike (Bibby) or Ron, they've got to push it up to see if we can take advantage of it."

Artest figures to help most on defense, including defending the 3-point line.

"The big guys playing (Tim) Duncan were doing their job for most of (Game2)," Artest said." Now, we've got to get the perimeters doing their job, me and Bonzi (Wells) hustling a little bit more, which we are going to do in Game3. And I've got to rebound better. I only had two rebounds in Game1. Kevin Martin came in and had eight rebounds. That just proves to me I've got to get in there and rebound."

dude1394
04-28-2006, 08:52 AM
it was also a moving screen. Can anyone even begin to imagine the ripping dirk would take if SAR dominated him the way he did duncan? This isnt new folks. Its the foot injury thats causing it but duncan has not been a good man defender this year.

I heard someone asking a question about the number of steps that parket took accepting the ball. I never see that called but it sort of looks like traveling.

It was definitely a moving screen and honestly should have been called as it directly impacted the game. But with the atrociousness of refereeing that I'm seeing you just never know what they will call.

DirkGoesNuclear
04-28-2006, 10:10 PM
Two great games, two teams to root against.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 10:10 PM
Man, San Antonio was down 45-33 as the half was closing out. Then it got to 45-41 after 8 straight. (In the midst of that, Horry cheated by slapping Wells in the mouth with no call.)

But now Artest has gone inside and scored with the and-one. He is abusing the Big Fundamental off the dribble. Evidently he is getting anything he wants out there.

He missed the free-throw, but Miller tipped out the board. Then Bibby shot an airball over Finley's airtight defense.

Six-point game at the half. Bonzi already has 11 and 9. The Kings will pull away in the second half.

This one looks a lot to me like the Mavs/Lakers series in '88. Both teams are going to hold serve at home, and it's going seven.

bernardos70
04-28-2006, 10:17 PM
He missed the free-throw, but Miller tipped out the board. Then Bibby shot an airball over Finley's airtight defense.


Finley's airtight defense? You had me rewind it back to that play and I must disagree with "airtight defense," Bibby just sucked, like he's been doing this whole series.

The Kings are looking like they're gonna pull off the upset. What's up with Artest's lip? Herpes outbreak?

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 10:18 PM
I doubt it goes 7. The Kings have to show me they can keep a lead. For the Spurs 6 down is nothing even at Arco. Even with the Kings up I still take the Spurs over the Kings this game. The 3rd quarter is usually when the Spurs come back down from points. Its a good game thus far. Artest is playing great. Hard to imagine this is the same team that lost to the Spurs by 30 the first game. I knew it was a fluke but I expected more that game.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 10:26 PM
Finley's airtight defense? You had me rewind it back to that play and I must disagree with "airtight defense," Bibby just sucked, like he's been doing this whole series.

The Kings are looking like they're gonna pull off the upset. What's up with Artest's lip? Herpes outbreak?Bernardos, Bernardos. You have to make some room for poetic license.

But still and all, you can't tell me Mike Bibby isn't intimidated by Mike Finley. I think we all saw him dribble it off his leg the other night, when Finley was on him like a rat terrier on a pantleg.

Oh, and with Artest, there is no telling. I'm just hoping he can find a way to stay in the game!

Drbio
04-28-2006, 10:29 PM
OH WELLS!!!! Nice block.


hahahaha....Mohammed made Brad Miller look like an all star there.

bernardos70
04-28-2006, 10:32 PM
All I have to say is:
If the Kings' interior defense is causing trouble for the Spurts, then I really like the Mavs' chances against them.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 10:34 PM
Man, I watch Artest power inside that Spurs interior defense (?), and all I think is: wow, that guy would look GREAT in a Mavs jersey.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 10:34 PM
We need more cowbell!!!!!

HAHAHAHHA....ginobili tried to flop and the Kings got the jump ball. GREAT call there.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 10:35 PM
The spurs lead the NBA in whining like a little bitch.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 10:35 PM
And Mohammed just dribbled off his foot out of bounds, just like in Hoosiers.

This game is very close to getting out of hand.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 10:36 PM
Come on chummy....say it.......you can do it.....

bernardos70
04-28-2006, 10:36 PM
No doubt about that, Dr. In fact, I was laughing quite a bit at the end of the half when Popovitch was complaining to the ref about a call, like he always does, and you can very clearly hear a fan go "shut up, popovitch!!!"

DirkGoesNuclear
04-28-2006, 10:37 PM
What the hell is Popovich doing to Nazr on the bench!

bernardos70
04-28-2006, 10:38 PM
KUNICHIWA, BITCHES! Says Sacramento.

DirkGoesNuclear
04-28-2006, 10:39 PM
We need more cowbell!!!!!

HAHAHAHHA....ginobili tried to flop and the Kings got the jump ball. GREAT call there.


for the 4th straight year, the Oscar goes to Ginobilli

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 10:39 PM
The Kings are kicking the CRAP out of the Spurs!

The former champions look but a shadow of their previous selves. If not for a bounce from the heavens, they would be staring 1-2 straight in the face, with the inevitable ignominy of a 1-3 defecit looming after the next game is played.

Only Mike Finley can save them now. But I fear they are too far gone.

By the way, Kenny Thomas's shot is even uglier than Shawn Marion's. But to me it's awfully pretty when it goes in. (In this series, that is.)

Drbio
04-28-2006, 10:40 PM
The Kings are kicking the CRAP out of the Spurs!



Woot....there it is!!!! :D

Drbio
04-28-2006, 10:41 PM
62-48 and I am loving it!

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 10:47 PM
Good, God. Fin has two threes in his last two shots. The first one came at 59-45 Kings, when they were lacing their shoes to run away. Now it's an eight-point game.

Memo to Sacramento: Do NOT leave Michael Finley open!

bernardos70
04-28-2006, 10:47 PM
Someone was right about the Spurts needing Finley to stay in this game........

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 10:47 PM
Only Mike Finley can save them now. But I fear they are too far gone.




And he's coming to the rescue. :)

bernardos70
04-28-2006, 10:52 PM
By the way, Kenny Thomas's shot is even uglier than Shawn Marion's.

As ugly as KT's shot is, Marion's jumper looks like a chest pass gone wrong.

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 10:52 PM
SMH@the Kings playing like shit now.

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 10:55 PM
I wonder what do the Kings think will happen when Duncan and Parker return to the game? They're just going to go back up by a deficit? You have to take advantage of when these guys are out and they're letting them back in and at the same time the Spurs are resting Duncan and Parker.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 10:57 PM
Udrih has worse range than Harris or Daniels on an off-night.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 10:59 PM
4 point game after three.


Come on kings. Ring those cowbells!

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 11:00 PM
Spurs could've possibly gained the lead had those 3 point shooters been Finley or Barry rather than Udrih who can't buy a bucket right now.

bernardos70
04-28-2006, 11:05 PM
The Spurts bitching about every single call is irritating.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:06 PM
The Spurts bitching about every single call is irritating.
One of the most irritating things in life this side of taxes.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:06 PM
Sar should have sat Manu on his butt there.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:08 PM
Holy cow!!!! Finley es en fuego!!!!

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 11:08 PM
Finley has arrived.

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 11:09 PM
I don't know why at this point anyone is shooting a 3 other than Finley. You can tell when he's on and right now i'd feed him everytime for a 3. Him and Duncan should be the only ones touching the ball.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:09 PM
I believe that it is nine points in Finley's past three field-goal attempts.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:11 PM
Spurs could've possibly gained the lead had those 3 point shooters been Finley or Barry rather than Udrih who can't buy a bucket right now.You ain't never lied. Every time I see Udrih hoist a three, a smile creeps across my face.

That dude sucks. He's got one job--ONE JOB!--and he messed that up, too.

mary
04-28-2006, 11:11 PM
If I may adapt a line from tonight's Stars broadcast:

The Spurs look like they have their forks out right now, and they're playing with their food.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:13 PM
If I may adapt a line from tonight's Stars broadcast:

The Spurs look like they have their fork out right now, and they're playing with their food.What's the score?

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:13 PM
Bonzi Wells is a mental midget.

mary
04-28-2006, 11:14 PM
What's the score?

3-1 Stars. Woohoo!

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:16 PM
Did you see that highlight of the chicanery in the Suns game? Kwame Brown is strong! And Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash do NOT like each other.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:17 PM
3-1 Stars. Woohoo!Thanks for the update. Every time I switch to OLN, it's on commercial. I thought from your comment that the 'Lanche were deciding when they wanted to finally go ahead and eat.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:20 PM
Did you see that highlight of the chicanery in the Suns game? Kwame Brown is strong! And Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash do NOT like each other.
Yep. The rapist told Nash "you just f**ked up". It was really easy to lipread that one.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:23 PM
Man, this is a helluva basketball game.

mary
04-28-2006, 11:24 PM
Thanks for the update. Every time I switch to OLN, it's on commercial. I thought from your comment that the 'Lanche were deciding when they wanted to finally go ahead and eat.

Nah..the Stars outshot them like 17-6 in the second period. I stopped watching at the end of the 2nd period but they were dominated the second period.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:24 PM
I agree chum.


Man Duncan is a retard. Now he is whining about getting the call too early?

mary
04-28-2006, 11:24 PM
Yep. The rapist told Nash "you just f**ked up". It was really easy to lipread that one.

Dammit, I would've liked to have seen that!

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:26 PM
Those two aren't on each others Christmas card list mary. ;)

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:26 PM
Keep in mind, guys: this is the 1 seed versus the 8 seed!

NBA Action: It's FAN-Tastic!

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:30 PM
What an exchange there. I'm not sure how they can call the foul when they let that other go.

jleefilled
04-28-2006, 11:33 PM
Let's go Adleman, guide your team to victory.

4-1 Stars about to win!

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 11:33 PM
The refs are calling this game crazy. They're letting the more physical fouls slide but the love taps they are calling.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:34 PM
Kwame just applied another HARD foul in the LA game.

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 11:34 PM
And btw, did Ginobilli, Udrih and Bowen end up in the Pop doghouse or what? Is he waiting to put them in lol? Seems like they're finished.

jleefilled
04-28-2006, 11:36 PM
And btw, did Ginobilli, Udrih and Bowen end up in the Pop doghouse or what? Is he waiting to put them in lol? Seems like they're finished.

Pop ain't no dummy! He knows Fin's a gamer.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:36 PM
This has been a great NBA basketball game.

I love the NBA playoffs. :D

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:37 PM
Udrih and Bowen suck!

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:37 PM
1:50 to victory...nice play Wells. About time.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:38 PM
Let's go Adleman, guide your team to victory.

4-1 Stars about to win!Thanks for the update! I've switched there no less than six times tonight, and every time has been something besides the game.

Drbio
04-28-2006, 11:38 PM
Did you guys see Bowen and Wells on the free throw? Watch that as the game winds down.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:38 PM
ARTEST WILL NOT BE DENIED!!!

jleefilled
04-28-2006, 11:39 PM
Thanks for the update! I've switched there no less than six times tonight, and every time has been something besides the game.

I don't really watch hockey, but yeah, I noticed from the updates online that there are quite a few long stoppages (is this a word?) of play.

chumdawg
04-28-2006, 11:39 PM
What do you KNOW about Ron Artest!!!!

Dtownsfinest
04-28-2006, 11:40 PM
If Pop is going to leave Finley on Artest than he deserves to lose this game lol. Get Bowen on him.

jleefilled
04-28-2006, 11:40 PM
Artest!