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birdsanctuary
06-22-2006, 06:00 PM
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NBA Finals runner-ups
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Recent NBA Final runner-ups and how they fared the following seasons

A pattern reveals that it is extremely difficult for teams that lose in the NBA Finals to get better and win the championship in the following year(s). In fact, in the 1990-present era, except for the Los Angeles Lakers, every team who has lost in the Finals has yet to win a championship.

Below is a list of teams since 1990 who have lost in the Finals detailed with their regular season record and playoff results for their respective following three years.

1990: Portland TrailBlazers (lost 1-4 to Detroit Pistons)
1991: 63-19, Lost 2-4 in Western Conference Finals to Los Angeles Lakers
1992: 57-25, Lost 2-4 in NBA Finals to Chicago Bulls
1993: 51-31, Lost 1-3 in 1st Round to San Antonio Spurs
Next Finals Appearance: 1992 (Lost)

1991: Los Angeles Lakers (lost 1-4 to Chicago Bulls)
1992: 43-39, Lost 1-3 in 1st Round to Portland TrailBlazers
1993: 39-43, Lost 2-3 in 1st Round to Phoenix Suns
1994: 33-49, Did not qualify for playoffs
1995: 48-34, Lost 2-4 in 2nd Round to San Antonio Spurs
Next Finals Appearance: 2000 (Won)

1992: Portland TrailBlazers (lost 2-4 to Chicago Bulls)
1993: 51-31, Lost 1-3 in 1st Round to San Antonio Spurs
1994: 47-35, Lost 1-3 in 1st Round to Houston Rockets
1995: 44-38, Lost 0-3 in 1st Round to Phoenix Suns
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

1993: Phoenix Suns (lost 2-4 to Chicago Bulls)
1994: 56-26, Lost 3-4 in 2nd Round to Houston Rockets
1995: 59-23, Lost 3-4 in 2nd Round to Houston Rockets
1996: 41-41, Lost 1-3 in 1st Round to San Antonio Spurs
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

1994: New York Knicks (lost 3-4 to Houston Rockets)
1995: 55-27, Lost 3-4 in 2nd Round to Indiana Pacers
1996: 47-35, Lost 1-4 in 2nd Round to Chicago Bulls
1997: 57-25, Lost 3-4 in 2nd Round to Miami Heat
Next Finals Appearance: 1999 (Lost)

1995: Orlando Magic (swept 0-4 to Houston Rockets)
1996: 60-22, Swept 0-4 in Eastern Conference Finals to Chicago Bulls
1997: 45-37, Lost 2-3 in 1st Round to Miami Heat
1998: 41-41, Did not qualify for playoffs
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

1996: Seattle SuperSonics (lost 2-4 to Chicago Bulls)
1997: 57-25, Lost 3-4 in 2nd Round to Houston Rockets
1998: 61-21, Lost 1-4 in 2nd Round to Los Angeles Lakers
1999: 25-25, Did not qualify for playoffs
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

1997: Utah Jazz (lost 2-4 to Chicago Bulls)
1998: 62-20, Lost 2-4 in NBA Finals to Chicago Bulls
1999: 37-13, Lost 2-4 in 2nd Round to Portland TrailBlazers
2000: 55-27, Lost 1-4 in 2nd Round to Portland TrailBlazers
Next Finals Appearance: 1998 (Lost)

1998: Utah Jazz (lost 2-4 to Chicago Bulls)
1999: 37-13, Lost 2-4 in 2nd Round to Portland TrailBlazers
2000: 55-27, Lost 1-4 in 2nd Round to Portland TrailBlazers
2001: 53-29, Lost 2-3 in 1st Round to Dallas Mavericks
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

1999: New York Knicks (lost 1-4 to San Antonio Spurs)
2000: 50-32, Lost 2-4 in Eastern Conference Finals to Indiana Pacers
2001: 48-34, Lost 2-3 in 1st Round to Toronto Raptors
2002: 30-52, Did not qualify for playoffs
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

2000: Indiana Pacers (lost 2-4 to Los Angeles Lakers)
2001: 41-41, Lost 1-3 in 1st Round to Philadelphia 76ers
2002: 42-40, Lost 2-3 in 1st Round to New Jersey Nets
2003: 48-34, Lost 2-4 in 1st Round to Boston Celtics
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

2001: Philadelphia 76ers (lost 1-4 to Los Angeles Lakers)
2002: 43-39, Lost 2-3 in 1st Round to Boston Celtics
2003: 48-34, Lost 2-4 in 2nd Round to Detroit Pistons
2004: 33-49, Did not qualify for playoffs
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

2002: New Jersey Nets (swept 0-4 to Los Angeles Lakers)
2003: 49-33, Lost 2-4 in NBA Finals to San Antonio Spurs
2004: 47-35, Lost 3-4 in 2nd Round to Detroit Pistons
2005: 42-40, Swept 0-4 in 1st Round to Miami Heat
Next Finals Appearance: 2003 (Lost)

2003: New Jersey Nets (lost 2-4 to San Antonio Spurs)
2004: 47-35, Lost 3-4 in 2nd Round to Detroit Pistons
2005: 42-40, Swept 0-4 in 1st Round to Miami Heat
2006: 49-33, Lost 1-4 in 2nd Round to Miami Heat
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

2004: Los Angeles Lakers (lost to Detroit Pistons)
2005: 34-48, Did not qualify for playoffs
2006: 47-35, Lost 3-4 in 1st Round to Phoenix Suns
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

2005: Detroit Pistons (lost to San Antonio Spurs)
2006: 64-18, Lost 2-4 in Eastern Conference Finals to Miami Heat
Next Finals Appearance: None Since

2006: Dallas Mavericks (lost to Miami Heat 2-4)

nashtymavsfan13
06-22-2006, 06:38 PM
That's not good :(

That streak has to end sometime though....:)

fluid.forty.one
06-22-2006, 06:47 PM
Hey if Josh Howards streak can end, this one can too.

Nash13
06-23-2006, 01:03 AM
Most of those teams were either aging badly or not all that good to begin with. You're probably are going to be saying the opposite of that this time next year.

WayOutWest
06-23-2006, 08:56 AM
That list doesn't say much. The Jazz and Nets all went back to the finals the very next year, that author splits up those teams streaks to try hide the article's contradictory evidence. The Blazers made it back to the WCF Finals the next year then the NBA Finals with bascially the same core. The Pacers were in some perennial playoff wars with the Knicks and Bulls. The Lakers lost Magic, the Magic lost Shaq so that was the real reason they struggled after losing in the Finals.

The Suns, Sonics and and Sixers are the only one's that were really impacted negatively after losing in the finals.

If you look back to the 80's era of the NBA, the best era IMO, every team had to have their heart broken before the moved on to win it all. Lakers, Pistons and Bulls all had their buttss handed to them by some other team before roaring back to win it all.

Some of those teams just had the misfortune to make their run durring the run of some of the greatest teams of all time. The 90's Bulls and 00's Lakers were just unbeatable at their peak. The Spurs and Pistons not being able to repeat should imply their is more parity in the league and that losts of teams have a shot at winning it all.

IMO the Mavs just need a little tweaking, they need a slasher to compliment Dirks game. Someone to drive to the basket and draw fouls or dish back to the Mav shooters. A player like Jason Richardson would fit in perfect because he would put pressure on the other teams 2 guard to play D.

vjz
06-23-2006, 12:00 PM
Actually, statistically, this means we have a better chance of breaking the trend.

mqywaaah
06-25-2006, 10:23 AM
we definitely have a really big chance to break this trend. as the saying goes "to each their own." maybe the mavericks could start a new trend, set a new record as the only team to lose in the previous nba finals and win the next one. hey mavs fans, what do you think?

birdsanctuary
06-25-2006, 01:38 PM
It's not what we think about it. It's about goign out and acquiring a top flight star to relegate Dirk and Devin to secondary roles. We need someone highly marketable so that the NBA Spin Doctors have no choice but to want the Mavs representing the NBA as Champions...

Only options I see: Iverson, Pierce, or Garnett...

I think the Mavs must trade one of the young talents (JHO, Quis, or Devin) plus baggage like Stack's expiring with filler to acquire one of these guys. Hell, I'd even consider platooning Dirk at the 5/4 to fit Garnett.