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purplefrog
09-14-2006, 11:31 AM
Troy Murphy at center... Dunleavy at PF... Surprise, surprise, Nellie is going to bring small ball to Golden State.



Nelson plans to step up pace

By Dave Newhouse
MediaNews

Warriors coach Don Nelson says, "I think we have a chance to mae the playoffs, I feel real good about that."

Mirage or messiah? Don Nelson's surprise return to the Warriors evokes different reactions, but he definitely projects hope.

And with a postseason drought of 12 years, hope is all the Warriors have to cling to, although Nelson truly believes they are playoff caliber.

Well, he is the last coach to guide the Warriors into the postseason, and he left the beaches of Hawaii to see if he can do it again.

Nelson, in an interview Wednesday, dissected the Warriors and a variety of subjects in between puffs on his cigar.

You're 66, financially secure, and you could find nothing among the swaying island palms to fill the void of basketball?

Most of the people I hung out with there were working, so the void was that I didn't know what to do during working hours. But (coaching) is something I do well, and I've done it a long time. I did miss it, I have a passion for it, and -- the main thing -- I was wanted here. Badly. So I came.

You had prostate surgery five years ago. How is your general health today?

Everything is good. I'm cancer-free.

What is the best method of rebuilding a franchise?

This is the fourth time I've been asked to cure a struggling franchise, and I've done this one before. You have to evaluate the roster and see how many players are salvageable in the system you want to play. In Dallas, I got rid of the whole team. In Milwaukee, I built from the ground through draft picks, like we did here the first time.

But this particular roster I happen to like, so I'll do this one different from the others. This team is pretty well ready to roll, and if they're not, they've got to prove that to me.

What is it exactly you like about these Warriors?

I think their best team is a small team, and I'm good at coaching small teams. They have a lot of natural ability. They have strengths that other players don't have, like (Mike) Dunleavy, able to handle the ball and be a point forward. And we have a really good point guard (Baron Davis). The big men aren't star players, but they can fill in at that spot.

If we change the tempo, that should be good for everybody. And then to see if these players will do what I want them to do, and I think they will be able to.

What things are those?

There are a hundred things, but, basically, to change their style of play to a faster pace, and a higher-scoring game, if you will. And to play an unselfish game, always anchored by a good solid defense, in which not everyone can guard successfully, but you get support from other guys -- which hasn't been a particularly strong point of this team. But I think we have a chance to make the playoffs. I feel real good about that.

What improvement must you make?

Mickael Pietrus is one of my mystery guys. He will play for me if he does what I want him to do, emphasizing the defensive end and not to worry about the offensive end. He's a great athlete and he can run. And I'm looking for runners.

There are other mystery guys; I don't know if they'll be able to make the next move I want them to make. I'm going to need (Troy) Murphy to play some center for us. If he can make some adjustments, he'll have his best year. And it will allow me to play Dunleavy at the ``4,'' because he basically struggles at small forward. He can function offensively better against the ``4s'' in the league.

And (Monta) Ellis is a mystery guy. I'm not sure as a high school player (two years ago) if he's ready to play big minutes. I'd like him to, and I'm going to give him the opportunity.

In your system, do you need one team leader, or is it a composite thing, like Run TMC?

In Run TMC, (Tim) Hardaway was our leader. It's better if your point guard is the leader. (Davis) is a great player, and he's going to flourish in my system. But he's too heavy to play my style of ball. He's got to get thinner; everybody has to be thinner than they are.

How do you psychologically convince this team it can win?

My approach is that they're going to have to show me why they can't win. I don't know why this team doesn't win. They should be a better team than they are, even playing in a tough conference and division.

A familiar pattern: The Warriors unravel in the fourth quarter. How do you cure that?

There's some obvious things. They're one of the worst foul-shooting teams in the NBA; we've got to remedy that. Then there's some situations like decisions and spacing. But if you can't make your foul shots, it's going to be hard to play down the stretch for me.

Chris Webber left the Warriors, and they've yet to recover. Looking back, could you have handled that situation differently?

Not after I got him here. If I had known more about the person, I wouldn't have taken him. The guy who was going to do all the positive things turned out to be a negative situation. He was young and unwilling to do much of anything, and has had many problems since. I don't think anyone would have succeeded with Chris early in his career.

MavKikiNYC
09-14-2006, 11:40 AM
Troy Murphy should be all over his agent for a trade.

chumdawg
09-14-2006, 11:49 AM
I'm pretty surprised how candid Nellie has been about Webber. That's not the type of thing you hear often.

As for the Warriors, they will be very fun to watch.

jthig32
09-14-2006, 12:01 PM
That is a VERY candid statement about Webber. Wow.

purplefrog
09-14-2006, 12:28 PM
I especially like the statement that Baron Davis and the rest of the team need to "get thinner". We all know how Nellie likes to hire lots of coaches maybe he will sign Richard Simmons to help his players drop a few pounds.

FreshJive
09-14-2006, 12:37 PM
I have to get League Pass this year anyway because I've moved to Houston (I got it last year for Nash and Fin), but its going to be a huge entertainment bargain this year thanks to Nellie.

dirno2000
09-14-2006, 01:11 PM
Dunleavy at the 4 won't work...they'll get killed on the glass and on defense by the 4's in the West.

PHX is able to play Marion there because he's one of the unique players in the league. He's such a quick leaper that he can defend 4's and actually pressure their shots. He's also a freakishly good rebounder for a SF.

If he's going to play a small lineup, Diogu's needs to be involved.

DevinHarriswillstart
09-14-2006, 02:51 PM
Good, solid defense Nellie? Anything for the papers.

fluid.forty.one
09-14-2006, 03:41 PM
Regardless of what happened in Dallas, Nellie knows a thing or two about Defense. That being said... they probably wont see much being a run and gun small ball team.

nashtymavsfan13
09-14-2006, 03:48 PM
Wow, no way Dunleavy can play decent at the 4. I take back what I said about them making the playoffs, they're gonna get killed on the glass.

Five-ofan
09-14-2006, 05:10 PM
the problem is that i think that some think that murphy can come somewhat close to dirk when their games are so dissimilar its not even funny. Yes both are tall and can shoot the J. The problem is that ALOT of dirks offense comes off the dribble and off of pull ups. Murphy has two modes. He can shoot a spot up jumper or he can make one dribble and pass. He cant create off the dribble and he cant pull up off the dribble and shoot over people.

DevinHarriswillstart
09-14-2006, 05:14 PM
Regardless of what happened in Dallas, Nellie knows a thing or two about Defense. That being said... they probably wont see much being a run and gun small ball team.

Haha I'd say thats a big asterix there. I do regard what happened in Dallas. I never watched the Milwauke games in the 80s so what else would I regard it by? Congrats to him if he taught defense 25 years ago.....he hasn't taught it in the last 16 and no reason to believe he Still knows anything about it.

alby
09-14-2006, 07:28 PM
diogu will be involved.

alby
09-14-2006, 07:28 PM
Haha I'd say thats a big asterix there. I do regard what happened in Dallas. I never watched the Milwauke games in the 80s so what else would I regard it by? Congrats to him if he taught defense 25 years ago.....he hasn't taught it in the last 16 and no reason to believe he Still knows anything about it.

he knows defense

sike
09-15-2006, 08:25 AM
"Nellie bring small ball to Golden State"

in a word: "duh"

Underdog
09-15-2006, 09:04 AM
"Nellie bring small ball to Golden State"

in a word: "snore"

jacktruth
09-15-2006, 11:42 AM
always anchored by a good solid defense, in which not everyone can guard successfully, but you get support from other guys

This particular quote makes me laugh. This entire article makes me happy. I like that Nellie sees things differently and tries something different. It makes the game fun. I'm just glad it's not my team anymore.

GS will do better next year, but fundamentally, Nellie's style can't win it in the 4th and can't do well in series play. With great players they can (MAVS), but there's not many in GS.

chumdawg
09-15-2006, 12:39 PM
GS will do better next year, but fundamentally, Nellie's style can't win it in the 4th and can't do well in series play. With great players they can (MAVS), but there's not many in GS.That's kinda hard to figure. Nellie has a style that can't win in the playoffs without great players, you say. Well, okay, I'm not going to dispute that. I would like to hear, however, about the styles that do win without great players. I guess thus far they have flown under my radar.

I'd also like to hear about how Nellie's style "fundamentally" can't do well in series play. Nellie has a phenomenal playoff coaching record.

Dortmund
09-15-2006, 12:50 PM
that team was built for small ball. this is a good decision by nellie, foyle sucks anyway. gs if healthy will win atleast 50 games and make the playoffs. fans will be happy and it will be a successful season for them. small ball is great during the regular season, and playoff success isnt exactly expected from the anyway.

mqywaaah
09-16-2006, 11:20 PM
Looking forward to watching Nellie bring his magic to GS. He has my support all the way. Just not when they be battling us Mavs. ;)


Hey Nellie... can-you-dig it? :)

Five-ofan
09-18-2006, 01:11 AM
That's kinda hard to figure. Nellie has a style that can't win in the playoffs without great players, you say. Well, okay, I'm not going to dispute that. I would like to hear, however, about the styles that do win without great players. I guess thus far they have flown under my radar.

I'd also like to hear about how Nellie's style "fundamentally" can't do well in series play. Nellie has a phenomenal playoff coaching record.
Exactly what i thought.

Underdog
09-18-2006, 01:32 AM
I can't wait to see our Mavs stomp Golden State...
:p

spreedom
09-29-2006, 08:26 AM
Good lord, Nellie just said that Troy Murphy will be the team's starting center. Over/under on his total blocks this year? I'll take 33... FROM THE STARTING CENTER.

DevinHarriswillstart
09-29-2006, 10:20 AM
Good lord, Nellie just said that Troy Murphy will be the team's starting center. Over/under on his total blocks this year? I'll take 33... FROM THE STARTING CENTER.

I actually think Nellie's system can win now with today's game. His system always won games. Defense still wins championships though.

Remember Raef Lafrentz as our starting center? Yeah he was a decent weak side shot blocker, but it never impressed me. Don't see why its so surprising. Who played center for the suns? Diaw? Plus what choices do they have at the position anyway? Murphy is plenty big enough he just is a horrid defender but lets face facts that GS won't be playing much defense anyway.

4cwebb
09-29-2006, 10:36 AM
Chris Webber left the Warriors, and they've yet to recover. Looking back, could you have handled that situation differently?

Not after I got him here. If I had known more about the person, I wouldn't have taken him. The guy who was going to do all the positive things turned out to be a negative situation. He was young and unwilling to do much of anything, and has had many problems since. I don't think anyone would have succeeded with Chris early in his career.

The thing that sucks about the above quote for someone like me is that it's hard to form a good argument against that statement, and from the looks of the Philly situation, I doubt I'll get any ammunition this year, either. Prior to CWebb going through microfracture, I doubt Nellie would've made that statement. Oh well. I will always wonder how the Shaq/CWebb pairing would've worked out...I imagine Shaq could have succeeded with CWebb.

As for Nellie and small ball, Dunleavy will get his opportunity to "play Dirk" for a year...shouldn't be much different from his own practice sessions, where I'd think he'd hope to be like Dirk one day. Don't think it will happen, but he has more of the tools than Murphy, just doesn't have the pure size. Doesn't have the confidence in his shot anymore, either.

kriD
10-05-2006, 02:03 AM
Nelson points to Dunleavy

Janny Hu, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 4, 2006

Mike Dunleavy flatly stated Monday that his previous NBA coaches didn't use him correctly. Apparently, his third and newest coach agrees.

Don Nelson handpicked Dunleavy to be a team captain, along with Baron Davis and Jason Richardson, thereby thrusting the Warriors' fifth-year forward into an unfamiliar leadership role.

"Anybody who has the ball in their hands a lot needs to be a leader," Nelson said Tuesday after the first practice of training camp. "He's going to be my point forward, and I think it's important that he start to develop into that area."

The captaincy is perhaps the clearest indication yet that the Warriors will count on Dunleavy as a playmaker rather than a producer this season. That suits him just fine after taking a step back in nearly every statistical category in 2005-06.

"The first thing I need to do is lead by example on the court, and obviously, the last few years, I haven't been able to do that," he said. "But I'm getting up there. I'm five years into the league now and I can help people."

chumdawg
10-05-2006, 02:10 AM
It's like when someone is cooking a delectable meal, and you can smell it from a mile away. Oh, what fond memories I have of The Don cooking dishes like these here in Dallas. The hope, the hope! Nobody gets more out of their players than Don Nelson does. Nobody. I don't know how good the players at Golden State can be, but I know that I'll know once the season is done. Nellie will squeeze out every last ounce.

I'm glad that the Mavs aren't in such dire straits anymore, and so I am at peace that he is off somewhere else donning his cape and fighting crimes. But oh, how fun it was when he was here and the Mavs were wiping away the decade-old stain of incompetence and irrelevance.

Enjoy these days, Golden State. It may never be this fun again.

Hitman
10-05-2006, 04:36 PM
Yeah, I agree with you Chum. Warrior fans are going to have fun this year for the first time in many, many years. Nelson will get career years out of Murphy and Dunleavy. It is going to be tough in the West, but they could grab a playoff spot. What a fun NBA sub-story heading into the playoffs...The Don returning and leading the Warriors back to the playoffs.

Nelson is the perfect guy for the Warriors right now, and they will be up there on the League Pass priority teams for me this season.

alby
10-06-2006, 12:34 AM
^ and my friend and i got season tickets this year! =]

dirno2000
10-06-2006, 12:46 AM
"Anybody who has the ball in their hands a lot needs to be a leader," Nelson said Tuesday after the first practice of training camp. "He's going to be my point forward, and I think it's important that he start to develop into that area."

Mike Dunlevy will pry the ball out of Baron Davis' cold dead hands...

kriD
10-13-2006, 08:59 AM
Nelson diminishes Foyle's role

The center's minutes will be limited as a defensive specialist

By Geoff Lepper
CONTRA COSTA TIMES

OAKLAND - The Warriors brass have been fond this season of saying that every player will benefit from the presence of new coach Don Nelson.

Assuming that's true, some players will benefit less equally than others.

Take Adonal Foyle. After starting 72 games last season, the nine-year veteran has been relegated to the far end of the bench.

"As a player, you want everything sweet and nice," Foyle said. "But that's not the real world."

The new reality for Foyle is that he has to scrap for minutes as a defensive specialist in Nelson's system. And be prepared to handle nights like Thursday, when Foyle was the only Warrior in uniform not to play as Golden State cruised to a 120-66 blowout in its preseason opener against Turkish side Efes Pilsen.

"What he needs to do is guard, block shots, run, get thin and do what I tell him to do, and not worry about scoring or anything like that," Nelson said.

Although Foyle spoke out publicly three seasons ago when his playing time dropped precipitously, he has been nothing but gracious about the change in his role this time.

"To me, the issue is really not minutes," Foyle said. "The issue is to try and be supportive and give the team what they need on any given night. ... This is a team that is going to have to take more chances because we have to win. So the benefit of the doubt is certainly going to be with the coach, and what he thinks. And you can't question that."

Foyle's teammates expect nothing less from their longest-tenured player.

"Adonal's been in a lot of different situations since I've been here," forward Mike Dunleavy said. "He's been in situations where he's started and played a lot of minutes, he's been in situations where he hasn't played at all. He's as professional as they come, and he's going to handle whatever role is given to him in the best way. "

"Actually, I've been impressed more than I thought I would with him," Nelson said of Foyle. "He's got a good attitude and I've diminished his role, and he's accepting it the best that he can and he's doing a really good job. He's got my attention."

That's not to say Foyle can't dream. And as the current NBA player who's made the most regular-season appearances (593) without ever earning a trip to the postseason, Foyle has a doozy of a plan.

"When we're in the playoffs and I'm telling him he should run a (play to get a 3-point attempt) for me, maybe he will do it," Foyle said. "Because I've been doing all the dirty work, you know?"
(...)

alby
10-13-2006, 09:15 AM
http://www.nba.com/media/nelson_400_061012.jpg

jthig32
10-13-2006, 09:16 AM
Shocking

chumdawg
10-13-2006, 11:12 AM
Adonal who?

nikeball
10-14-2006, 02:34 AM
this year....

gs warriors = poor man's phoenix suns.

a very poor man's. lol. unless baron davis stays healthy the whole year. then the poor man has won the lottery. and if baron davis is healthy for a whole year..it pretty much is a lottery.

MavKikiNYC
01-17-2007, 08:55 PM
Troy Murphy should be all over his agent for a trade.

Prophetic.

Trade to Indy was the best possible thing that could've happend for Murphy.

Same for Dunleavy.

All the typical Nelson bull$hit in this thread.

Chris Mullin just got scrod.

dude1394
01-17-2007, 09:12 PM
Nice, just traded away the captain after 42 games.

Don Nelson handpicked Dunleavy to be a team captain, along with Baron Davis and Jason Richardson, thereby thrusting the Warriors' fifth-year forward into an unfamiliar leadership role.