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EricaLubarsky
02-05-2007, 10:02 PM
anyone watching this?

fluid.forty.one
02-05-2007, 10:02 PM
is Iverson playing?

fluid.forty.one
02-05-2007, 10:03 PM
Just answered my own question. I can't believe Denver is winning without Iverson.

Murphy3
02-05-2007, 10:04 PM
I don't believe it.. Najera has 2 defensive rebounds in only 13 minutes. That must be a record for him.

Five-ofan
02-05-2007, 10:09 PM
the suns look pretty bad right now.

fluid.forty.one
02-05-2007, 10:11 PM
Wow Denver up 9 at half without Iverson and Camby.

Windmill360
02-05-2007, 10:15 PM
u jinxed it guys.... u jinxed it.

dude1394
02-05-2007, 10:26 PM
Well I'm sure they'll do better now that they have their mip raja bell back.

Five-ofan
02-05-2007, 10:27 PM
nash is out for the rest of the game.

GermanFan
02-05-2007, 10:28 PM
what happend ?

FINtastic
02-05-2007, 10:29 PM
How did Nash get hurt? And what type of injury?

Dirkadirkastan
02-05-2007, 10:32 PM
The Suns have scored on what, the last six possessions?

Five-ofan
02-05-2007, 10:33 PM
nothing serious it was a non contact injury but his right shoulder is whats hurt. supposedly did it in the jazz game. win win now. if the suns make up the defecit without nash it hurts his mvp chances. if the suns lose well the win part of that is obvious.

GermanFan
02-05-2007, 10:34 PM
does anybody know a good sun's message board and can give me the link

dude1394
02-05-2007, 10:35 PM
Here's a bunch of good ones.

http://www.kingsfanclub.com/madness.html

Here's the suns one
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=7

Five-ofan
02-05-2007, 10:38 PM
man phoenix is getting a TON of calls...

Windmill360
02-05-2007, 10:38 PM
told u.

shaw-xx
02-05-2007, 10:41 PM
It's said he tweaked his shoulder in the Utah game.

dude1394
02-05-2007, 10:42 PM
First I don't believe in jinxes. Secondly if you can't talk about the game while it's going on what fun is it!

:)

nashtymavsfan13
02-05-2007, 10:44 PM
Amare's really looking good.

shaw-xx
02-05-2007, 10:45 PM
@#%$

kg_veteran
02-05-2007, 10:53 PM
What channel is the game on?

Dirkadirkastan
02-05-2007, 10:56 PM
The Suns are scoring on EVERY POSSESSION.

Windmill360
02-05-2007, 10:56 PM
30 points in the 3rd quarter

This game is not on national television.

shaw-xx
02-05-2007, 10:58 PM
Denver has no D.

Dirkadirkastan
02-05-2007, 10:58 PM
nothing serious it was a non contact injury but his right shoulder is whats hurt. supposedly did it in the jazz game. win win now. if the suns make up the defecit without nash it hurts his mvp chances. if the suns lose well the win part of that is obvious.

Of course, the Dirk-less Mavs also won in Denver...

Tokey41
02-05-2007, 10:59 PM
Nice effort by Denver... Melo almost has a triple double.

Dirkadirkastan
02-05-2007, 11:01 PM
Chalk it up for the Suns... Denver can't do shait.

shaw-xx
02-05-2007, 11:01 PM
He almost had it in the 1st half. So the 2nd is ...

kg_veteran
02-05-2007, 11:02 PM
The Nuggets are a terrible defensive team, which is why the addition of Iverson isn't going to make a difference.

Windmill360
02-05-2007, 11:02 PM
Denver is a movie of the week.

Windmill360
02-05-2007, 11:05 PM
Carmelo is FAT

shaw-xx
02-05-2007, 11:06 PM
..........................................

Windmill360
02-05-2007, 11:07 PM
Carmelo on his way with a tripple double for no reason at all. POS

chumdawg
02-05-2007, 11:10 PM
Carmelo on his way with a tripple double for no reason at all. POSMaybe he's messing around.

Windmill360
02-05-2007, 11:11 PM
Maybe he's messing around.
I know. The dude is obviously not trying at all.

big_pth
02-05-2007, 11:12 PM
nuggets don't look like they want this game...

big_pth
02-05-2007, 11:14 PM
HAH! They had an evil Lexus commercial where it was basically: "If you love your kids and want them safe and warm, buy an expensive ass lexus SUV or they DIE IN SNOW AND ICE!"

big_pth
02-05-2007, 11:14 PM
and carmelo DOES have his triple double...

big_pth
02-05-2007, 11:17 PM
103-97 PHX with 1:49 left

Dirkadirkastan
02-05-2007, 11:20 PM
Nugs ain't gonna win.

Windmill360
02-05-2007, 11:20 PM
Hilario Free Throw 2 of 2 (25 PTS)

lol who the hell is Hilario?

That's hilarious.

big_pth
02-05-2007, 11:20 PM
suns are gonna win this

big_pth
02-05-2007, 11:21 PM
damn you Najera...why can't you give us a hand?

Dirkadirkastan
02-05-2007, 11:22 PM
Nugs would always pull within five, then start launching stupid threes.

That ain't how to do it, bozos.

Windmill360
02-05-2007, 11:24 PM
Ok.... suns win this game without Nash = Nash shouldn't get the MVP because they won without him.

Suns lose this game means they suck and can't beat the (COUGH, hurl, COUGH *fart noise*) "best" in the west.

Also if suns win they only won cause A.I. wasn't playing and they never play a good team that is at full strength or without and nitpicks.

Sounds like a win win to me.

big_pth
02-05-2007, 11:25 PM
Nugs would always pull within five, then start launching stupid threes.

That ain't how to do it, bozos.

Teams get rattled by the Sun's shooting ability...they let themselves fall into that PHX trap. And PHX is very good at what they do. The trick seems to be not get rattled. Glad the Mavs seem to be beyond that...

fluid.forty.one
02-05-2007, 11:26 PM
Wow, look how crappy the suns offense looks without Nash :rolleyes:

big_pth
02-05-2007, 11:28 PM
well...denver is at least keeping it close...

FINtastic
02-05-2007, 11:29 PM
I'm pissed that Denver couldn't find a way to give us a 2 game lead in the west.

nashtymavsfan13
02-05-2007, 11:32 PM
Wow, Melo and Amare have crazy stats this game!

FINtastic
02-05-2007, 11:34 PM
So how many games does it look like Nash will be out? Anyone want to hazard a guess?

DarenG
02-05-2007, 11:34 PM
I think we are about to gain some more games on the Suns. Steve has been playing hurt for the last 3 games. They are saying he might miss a game or 2.

nashtymavsfan13
02-05-2007, 11:35 PM
I say he doesn't miss more than 1-2.

fluid.forty.one
02-05-2007, 11:36 PM
Nash being out is only good if they lose games. If they continue winning this extra rest will help him in the playoffs.

bernardos70
02-05-2007, 11:37 PM
Hilario is Nene, btw, whoever asked. That's his real last name which he legally dropped.

dirno2000
02-05-2007, 11:47 PM
Amare is logging major minutes. This was his 3rd straight game with 43 minutes and his 6th straight with at least 39.

DarenG
02-05-2007, 11:49 PM
Amare is logging major minutes. This was his 3rd straight game with 43 minutes and his 6th straight with at least 39.

I think the Suns actually figured out they need to feed him the ball at the end of games.

SaltwaterChaffy
02-05-2007, 11:51 PM
Maybe he's messing around.

On the court, he's trouble.


Ahhh....never gets old.

u2sarajevo
02-06-2007, 12:53 AM
Yeah.... they will rest Nash for 2 games for sure.... the Trailblazers tomorrow and the stinking Hawks on Friday.

We will see him again on Sunday when they face the Bulls.... I bet....

dirno2000
02-06-2007, 01:20 AM
I don't know if the Blazers have what it takes to close the Suns out but they've been very competitive over the past couple of weeks. I'm expecting a close game. Especially if Nash doesn't go.

Gaddabout
02-06-2007, 01:36 AM
I'm not sure they've fully determined what Nash's injury is. If it's something like a rotator cuff -- heaven forbid -- he could be out a long time. For now they're treating it like a bruise or inflammation, but it could get hairy tomorrow after an MRI. Still no excuses for the Suns to not close out the Blazers and the Hawks. I'll be back here to take my beating if they lose, with or without Nash.

fluid.forty.one
02-06-2007, 01:37 AM
If I'm not mistaken, they only beat the blazers by 5 points last time. Roy has been on a tear, and the game will be in Portland. I'm hoping Portland has a chance if Nash is out.

nashtymavsfan13
02-06-2007, 02:14 AM
I still don't think the Blazers have much of a chance, but I'd be pleasantly surprised.

DevinHarriswillstart
02-06-2007, 03:52 AM
Wow the Suns are hurtin right now. If Nash is out, they will only have a 6-7 man rotation. With Nash's age and Amare's knee, you gotta think thats gonna take a big toll come playoff time.

WraithXx
02-06-2007, 03:58 AM
Hilario is Nene, btw, whoever asked. That's his real last name which he legally dropped.

only a Brazilian would know such facts :)

EricaLubarsky
02-06-2007, 04:47 AM
Nene also is pronounced nuh-nay, and is a nickname meaning "baby boy"

Murphy3
02-06-2007, 06:11 AM
After reading the post game quotes, the Suns are desperately trying to convince themself and the rest of the world that they're a tough and physical team.

Amir
02-06-2007, 06:50 AM
Bloody Nuggets, they should have won this one since Phoenix was wo Nash!

V2M
02-06-2007, 09:51 AM
Bloody Nuggets, they should have won this one since Phoenix was wo Nash!

You're either underestimating Amare/Marion/Diaw/Bell/Barbosa OR overestimating Nene/Najera/Melo/Diawara/Blake!!

For the Nth time folks.... as Murph and a few others on this board quite clearly explained: "Nash doesn't make the Suns great... it's Amare/Marion/Diaw/Bell/Barbosa that make Nash great!!"

Don't get me wrong... Nash is a fine player and one of the best PGs to ever play the game. But he was just a last piece to the PHX puzzle... nothing more, nothing less!

V2M
02-06-2007, 11:27 AM
Suns battle back
With Nash out nursing sore shoulder, Stoudemire, Barbosa rally Suns

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Feb. 5, 2007 11:32 PM
DENVER - If Steve Nash was looking for a way to stoke his team's fire, the biggest scare would be to leave a game hurt.

The Suns reacted well to Nash's absence due to worsening soreness in his right shoulder, turning around more first-half lethargy for a second-half comeback that beat Denver, which was without Allen Iverson and Marcus Camby, 113-108.

Iverson became the 18th All-Star to skip a Suns game this season, but losing Nash seemingly would do more to unravel the Suns. Everyone worries that the Suns offense would go thirsty without the straw that stirs the drink, but Amaré Stoudemire responded with 36 points, his second best game of the season, and Leandro Barbosa helped finish off Denver with 12 points from Nash's point spot in the fourth quarter.
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"Them pushing us around like little schoolgirls was a good motivational tool," Nash said.

The Suns' slippage had gone too far for their own tastes, and coach Mike D'Antoni showed his ire at halftime, sort of like last season when Raja Bell ignited the players with a halftime speech at Sacramento that shook them out of a funk. They will need to play inspired if Nash's injury lingers. He likely will not play tonight at Portland because of the shoulder problem, which started when he woke up Thursday and has given him more muscle soreness and spasms with each day.

Nash had nine points and seven assists, hardly an indication of pain until he was pulled 1:05 before halftime and asked to play through it.

"It's not worth it," D'Antoni told him.

Suns athletic trainer Aaron Nelson said the inflammation will have to go down in Nash's shoulder before he can strengthen it again. He said the swelling leads to frequent spasms in Nash's shoulder, neck and trapezius.

Nash actually hurts more without the ball when he is trying to change direction and can't get momentum. He even hurts when he sits out.

"My shoulder is frozen," Nash said. "I can't move like I want to without the ball. That's when the pain gets worse."

The Suns trailed 60-51 at halftime but emerged more determined, getting a 15-2 run in the third quarter as Stoudemire punished Denver with whatever it gave him. He hit an 18-foot jumper and a fast-break dunk on successive trips and powered his way to four three-point plays.



Like Saturday's Utah loss, Phoenix trailed by nine at halftime. Unlike Utah, Denver lost its focus and settled for jump shots and Phoenix played clutch in the fourth to overcome Carmelo Anthony's first career triple-double.

"Since half of them (the Suns) didn't show up until halftime anyway, it was nice to see them get the late bus over from the hotel at halftime," Nash said. "I'm proud of them. It was a different team in the second half."
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Mike D'Antoni said one thing his team has been guilty of recently on offense is forcing the ball inside when an opponent is yielding the three-pointer. If the Suns miss threes, it only makes it that much tougher to score on a packed-in defense like Minnesota or Utah used. D'Antoni would rather Phoenix keep shooting threes because hitting 40 percent of them is the same as hitting 60 percent of two-point shots. The Suns have made 40 percent of their threes on the season but entered Monday shooting 54 percent on twos.

—Paul Coro

dude1394
02-06-2007, 11:44 AM
Nash may be the toughest guy on that team (except for bell).

DarenG
02-06-2007, 01:15 PM
Nash is not playing tonight against Portland and I bet he sits out the Atlanta game. Not sure about the Chicago game. It's possible he doesn't come back until the Seattle and Clips games because they are WC games. Mike D'Antoni doesn't want him back in the lineup until he is healed. So if we are going to create some distance, we need to do it now.

Flacolaco
02-06-2007, 01:17 PM
Nash is not playing tonight against Portland and I bet he sits out the Atlanta game. Not sure about the Chicago game. It's possible he doesn't come back until the Seattle and Clips games because they are WC games. Mike D'Antoni doesn't want him back in the lineup until he is healed. So if we are going to create some distance, we need to do it now.

Mike, Dan, and Tony all know that they don't need Nash to beat Atlanta or Portland. Or any other eastern conference team for that matter.

fluid.forty.one
02-06-2007, 01:38 PM
Portland is in the west bro.

DarenG
02-06-2007, 01:49 PM
Portland is in the west bro.

Yes they are but it's Portland and they already announced he was probably out for that game. Meaning if he was border line on coming back it probably wouldn't be until the next WC games.

Flacolaco
02-06-2007, 02:26 PM
Portland is in the west bro.

I was referring to the Chicago game they had after those two....

fluid.forty.one
02-06-2007, 03:12 PM
Ah okay

shaw-xx
02-06-2007, 08:05 PM
Without him, they will also win over Portland.

V2M
02-07-2007, 10:14 AM
Notebook: Nash could play as early as Friday
By Mike Tulumello, Tribune
February 7, 2007
Steve Nash could return as soon as Friday’s home game with Atlanta if the spasms in his right shoulder subside.
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But even if he’s out a little while, the Suns don’t figure to collapse in the way they did two seasons ago when Nash went down.

Nash, who woke up with the shoulder problem on Thursday, said he was sore Tuesday night.

He’ll take today off but “if the spasms go down, there’s no reason I couldn’t do stuff again” as early as Thursday, when the Suns practice next.

“We hope (his return) will be Friday,” trainer Aaron Nelson said. “If not, Sunday (vs. Chicago) and we’ll go day by day from there.”

Either way, coach Mike D’Antoni sounded relaxed.

“We’re a completely different team than we were two years ago,” he said.

For starters, Leandro Barbosa is a much improved player at the point. “And Boris Diaw is a point guard, too,” D’Antoni said.

“We have more players who can distribute the basketball. We’re better equipped to deal with Steve’s absence.”

THAT SLIDING FEELING

Since losing in Minnesota a week ago, D’Antoni has felt his team slipping mentally and addressed the issue with feeling during halftime in Denver, when his team was getting pushed all over the court by a .500 Nuggets club that was missing two starters.

“We’re good when we don’t think we’re that good,” he said. “We’ve been reading our press clippings a little bit and we just kind of slipped. At halftime, we just realized ‘OK, we’ve messed around enough, now let’s go play.’

“It was a good wake-up call. These are good if we can learn from them. When a team knocks you around like that, you have two choices. We took the right one and knocked them back.”

The Suns coach suggested his wake-up speech was unusual.

“We don’t have a group you have to berate too much. They’re self-starters. ... They got upset at themselves for not being tough.”

Nash said Raja Bell spoke up as well.

But Nash said a national TV report that he was so upset about the team’s play that he was “beet red” was inaccurate.

“Maybe my shoulder was red,” Nash said. “I wasn’t verbally upset because I was in so much pain.”

THOMAS WORKS OUT

As Kurt Thomas took some shots before Tuesday’s game, D’Antoni said, “That’s the first time I’ve seen him shoot” since his elbow injury on Jan. 15.

Thomas walked over to D’Antoni, made a shooting motion and said, “This is just like riding a bike.”

The Suns expect Thomas to return by March 1.


VISIT FROM HOME

About 50 young basketball players and parents from Queen of Angels school in Nash’s hometown of Victoria, British Columbia, attended the game after playing several games in the Portland area.

“He’s a great player and a great role model for all the kids,” said Mark Cristante, a member of the group and a family friend.

“When he comes back to Canada, he always gives to the community. He always has time.”
Contact Mike Tulumello by email, or phone (480) 898-6525

fluid.forty.one
02-07-2007, 10:31 AM
“We have more players who can distribute the basketball. We’re better equipped to deal with Steve’s absence.”


So wait.. if you don't really "need" him on offense, and he's a liability on defense, is he still MVP?

Obviously I'm not saying "cut the man he's worthless!!!".. but you would never hear D'antoni make a quote like that (and it is true) last year or especially the year before.