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kriD
02-20-2007, 03:21 AM
Nets Working to Find a Way to Trade Kidd

By JOHN ELIGON and LIZ ROBBINS
Published: February 20, 2007

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J., Feb. 19 — The Nets are more serious than ever about trading their star point guard, Jason Kidd, by Thursday’s trading deadline, several Eastern Conference officials said Monday.

The Los Angeles Lakers are the front-runners, but their offer of young players, expiring contracts and a draft pick is probably not enough to get a deal done.

But according to three officials in the Eastern Conference who spoke on the condition of anonymity because no deal had been completed, the Nets have been trying to involve at least one other team in the deal.

Multiteam deals are difficult to make at the trading deadline and usually happen around the draft or before the season starts.

The Nets may also be hoping that other teams interested in Kidd will counter the Lakers’ offer with a better one.

Possible offers from the Lakers could include centers Chris Mihm and Kwame Brown as well as point guard Jordan Farmar. The Lakers have been unwilling to trade forward Lamar Odom, their No. 2 player behind the All-Star Kobe Bryant, or Andrew Bynum, their young center.

Ultimately, the Nets’ decision comes down to this: If they take that first big step toward rebuilding by trading Kidd, can they stay competitive after the breakup of a team that once had lofty expectations?

Trading Kidd, who is to make $40 million over the next two seasons, would probably lead to the end of Vince Carter’s time with the Nets as well. Carter, who is owed more than $16.3 million next season, can opt out of the final year of his contract at the end of the season. There is already a widespread belief that he will do that, regardless of what happens with Kidd.

And if Carter is gone, then keeping Kidd could stall the growth process as the team approaches its move to Brooklyn.

Rod Thorn, the Nets’ president, said that before the season, Carter told him he would like to be a free agent. Trading Carter by Thursday could be difficult because most teams interested in Carter would also want assurances that he would re-sign. If the Nets do not trade Carter and he does opt out at the end of the season, the Nets could still use a sign-and-trade to get a player in return.

On Monday, Carter repeated that he had not been thinking about his contract this season. He said he hoped to talk with Thorn but was uncertain when that would happen.

“I wish I had something to tell you, but I don’t,” Carter said. “Honestly, I don’t. I don’t want to come out and say something that I haven’t thought about.”

Many executives throughout the league predicted that Kidd seemed the more likely to be traded of the two. But two Eastern Conference executives said they did not expect the Nets, who are not out of the running for a playoff spot, to trade either player.

Kidd and Carter returned to practice Monday night from their All-Star weekend activities, each saying that he was unaffected by the trade talk and that he was eager for Thursday’s deadline to pass.

“I’m an employee until they tell me otherwise,” Kidd said. “That’s the way this business works. Things change fast, and you just got to go with it.

“Come Thursday, it can’t come soon enough, all that stuff dies down and we try to make it to the playoffs.”

Kidd played basketball Monday for the first time in eight days because of a strained lower back that kept him out of the Nets’ final two games before the All-Star Game break.

During that time, the Nets (25-29) had a peek at what life would be like without him, and it was not pretty. They lost handily to the San Antonio Spurs and the Toronto Raptors, who are four and a half games ahead of the Nets in first place in the Atlantic Division.

Although Kidd is having one of his best seasons in years, the Nets may have a reason to move him.

According to one Eastern Conference official, the Nets’ owner, Bruce C. Ratner, was concerned about the negative publicity surrounding Kidd’s contentious divorce from his wife, Joumana. But Ratner is said to be close to Kidd. He also has an affinity for Carter, who helped rescue the Nets two seasons ago in the wake of the franchise’s letting go of Kenyon Martin.

With the Nets expected to move to Brooklyn as early as the 2009-10 season, this could be the time for them to start rebuilding. Even without Kidd and Carter, they have a solid young core in small forward Richard Jefferson, center Nenad Krstic and the rookie point guard Marcus Williams. Those three may be able to bridge the gap and keep the Nets competitive until the move.

“I think it could happen,” a conference official said of the Nets’ trading Kidd. “It seems to make some sense right now if they don’t feel like they can get to where they want to get to.”

dude1394
02-20-2007, 10:20 AM
I don't understand the nets. If you are going to trade your assetts I would think you'd tear it all down and start over...so young players, expiring contracts and draft picks are perfect.

If Odom came over they'd just continue to be stuck in mediocrity. I still think Philedelphia has been the shrewdest team in a while (chicago a few years ago as well) they've purposely torn it down and gotten much,much younger.

Portland also seems like to be on the right track until they decided to not also trade randolph.

Windmill360
02-20-2007, 10:23 AM
yea it's weird. I thought they brought Carter in so that Kidd wouldnt leave.

Nash13
02-20-2007, 12:26 PM
why aren't they trading VC? He's going to opt out at the end of the year.

MavKikiNYC
02-20-2007, 12:54 PM
why aren't they trading VC? He's going to opt out at the end of the year.
There's a somewhat limited market for him for that very reason.

Kidd's contract is worse for the Nets--if they can get rid of his contract and if Carter leaves at the end of the year, they're going to gain some financial flexibility. Plus, Kidd is taking a real pr-hit with the disclousres coming out of his divorce proceedings--domestic violence, serial infidelity, 5 children with 3 different mothers, and a hoochie in every NBA port. Kidd has been one of the best NBA point guards I've ever seen, but he is really being shown to be a POS as a human being. Sounds like he'd be a perfect running mate for Kobe.

Incredible what's happening in the Atlantic--Boston, Philly and probably NJ will have done demolition jobs this year, putting Toronto and NY in a two-team race for that allocated playoff spot. Go Raptors!

purplefrog
02-20-2007, 02:19 PM
why aren't they trading VC? He's going to opt out at the end of the year.

FW Startelgram suggested that there might be a trade with Orlando... sending VinSanity to the Magic for Milicic, Turkogulu, and JJ Redick. But then again, these rumors are typically way off in left field.

MavKikiNYC
02-20-2007, 02:55 PM
FW Startelgram suggested that there might be a trade with Orlando... sending VinSanity to the Magic for Milicic, Turkogulu, and JJ Redick. But then again, these rumors are typically way off in left field.

Hadn't heard that scenario. That's not bad as salvage value for Carter. Thorn will probably keep shopping VC around to try to get Orlando to up it's bid.

Re Nets' strategy--they may be willing to sacrifice marquee players in the short-term, because they're so much of a lame-duck presence in NJ with the planned move to Brooklyn. Hard to see them holding on to huge contracts (letting alone extending max/near-max to VC) now in an attempt to sell an extra ticket here or there. Seems like it'll be easier for them to move into Brooklyn like an expansion team, and that they don't have to show up as a contender.

WurzburgBorn
02-20-2007, 03:17 PM
I think that's too much to give up for VC, but you never know.

MavKikiNYC
02-20-2007, 03:27 PM
I think that's too much to give up for VC, but you never know.

Yeah, Orlando probably doen't have to give that much up for him, unless they want him for a playoff run this year.

rakesh.s
02-20-2007, 08:11 PM
the nets would be committing robbery if they pulled that deal off..

they wouldn't have to trade kidd and they'd be a contender...

kidd/redick/jefferson/turkoglu/milcic is a pretty good lineup in the east...

Murphy3
02-20-2007, 08:12 PM
That's way too much to give up for Carter in my opinion.

big_pth
02-20-2007, 09:25 PM
if vince opts out, then I am sure the Mavs can find room for him next season...

Nash13
02-21-2007, 12:13 AM
I know my sister, who is a big VC fan, said that since he and his wife are on the verge of divorce, he'd sign with the team close to her home so he can be close to his kid (which made me like him a little more). She also told me that his wife would move to either Charlotte or Orlando.

DarenG
02-21-2007, 12:23 AM
VC is going to test free agency. On ESPN radio they said he is looking for a 10 to 12 million dollar contract per season. You think the Mavs are going to pay that?? No way.

Not to mention why would the Mavs who play like a team want a guy who is about scoring and doesn't play any defense? The Mavs are about team. VC is not.

Thespiralgoeson
02-21-2007, 12:42 AM
VC is going to test free agency. On ESPN radio they said he is looking for a 10 to 12 million dollar contract per season. You think the Mavs are going to pay that?? No way.

Not to mention why would the Mavs who play like a team want a guy who is about scoring and doesn't play any defense? The Mavs are about team. VC is not.

I'd love to have VC, but that is too much for the Mavs to pay.

kriD
02-22-2007, 02:22 AM
Kidd-To-Lakers Rumor Gaining Momentum

Nets Mum On Possibility Of Point Guard Getting Traded

(CBS/AP) EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. Jason Kidd sounded resigned to the fact that he might be playing his last game Wednesday night for the New Jersey Nets, the team he led to its only NBA finals appearances.

Kidd was in the starting lineup at Continental Airlines Arena against the New Orleans Hornets, his first action since missing two games and the NBA All-Star game with a back injury.

Before the game, he said he had not spoken to Nets president Rod Thorn or general manager Ed Stefanski on Wednesday. Numerous reports have speculated that Kidd would end up with the Los Angeles Lakers, and Kidd said the Lakers were the only team he had heard was seriously interested in him.

"Whatever happens, whether I stay or go, basketball doesn't change," he said as he sat at his locker. "The game doesn't change. It's just different cities. You never know in this league. Anything can happen."

Kidd acknowledged that the other two times he was traded -- from Dallas to Phoenix in the middle of the 1996-97 season and from the Suns to New Jersey in July 2001 -- the moves took him by surprise. This time, the rumors have mushroomed in recent weeks.

"With Phoenix, I didn't see that coming," he said. "But that worked out for the best. If I'm traded to where everybody's expecting I'll be traded, I'm sure it will work out for the best. I just have to move on. That's just the nature of the business."

Kidd led New Jersey to the NBA finals in 2002, where the Nets were swept by the Lakers. The following year, New Jersey lost to San Antonio in six games. This season Kidd has made headlines for a bitter divorce battle with wife, Joumana, that has included allegations of physical abuse from both parties.

On the court, the soon-to-be 34-year-old's performance has not been affected, and his averages of 14.4 points, eight rebounds and 8.8 assists are roughly the same as his career marks.

"You'd like to stay in one place," he said. "I've really enjoyed New Jersey, but things happen fast in this league and you have to be prepared. Especially after you've been traded the first time, you realize it can happen at any time."

Entering Wednesday's game, Kidd ranked in the Nets' all-time top 10 in 11 categories: assists (first, 3,354); 3-pointers made (second, 305) and attempted (second, 1,780); steals (fourth, 749); defensive rebounds (fourth, 2,090); minutes played (fourth, 13,906); total rebounds (sixth, 2,595); field goal attempts (sixth, 5,101); points (sixth, 5,755); free throws (eighth, 1,082); free throw attempts (ninth, 1,335) and field goals (ninth, 2,034).