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DTL
05-05-2002, 03:03 PM
Just watching the Celts-Pistons game and want to add my personal contribution to the chorus of Ben Wallace adulation. It's so much fun to watch his defensive game.

Big Ben's got 5 blocks in the first half already, plus 7 boards.

Drbio
05-05-2002, 04:03 PM
Ben Wallace will be one of the best big men in the NBA for years. He is incredible.

DTL
05-05-2002, 04:14 PM
The incredible thing is how he is not really a "big" guy. He plays so much bigger.

Drbio
05-05-2002, 04:18 PM
Best true rebounder in the league IMO.

DTL
05-05-2002, 04:35 PM
Agreed.

Nice game by the old man Robinson. 30 pts, with 6 treys.

madape
05-05-2002, 07:09 PM
I am always skeptical of Eastern Conference centers who put up big numbers. The East is so weak, especially at the center position, that its hard to guage how good a player really is. Its kind of like Yao Ming getting 30 boards a game in the Chinese league.

What we can do, is look at Whow allace's fared against Western Conference teams. Here's his last 10 games against Western Conference playoff teams:

Apr 12 vs Spurs: Rebounds - 8, Blocks - 2, Points - 7
Apr 03 vs Kings: Rebounds - 11, Blocks - 2, Points - 12
Mar 22 at Lakers:Rebounds - 11, Blocks - 0, Points - 2
Mar 19 at Jazz: Rebounds - 15, Blocks - 2, Points - 2
Mar 15 vs Jazz: Rebounds - 13, Blocks - 6, Points - 9
Jan 23 vs Wolves:Rebounds - 14, Blocks - 1, Points - 6
Jan 08 vs Lakers:Rebounds - 12, Blocks - 3, Points - 8
Jan 07 at Wolves:Rebounds - 5, Blocks - 3, Points - 0
Jan 02 at Spurs: Rebounds - 12, Blocks - 2, Points - 12
Dec 22 at Sonics:Rebounds - 9, Blocks - 2, Points - 8

Thats an average of 11 rebounds, 2.3 blocks, 6.6 points
Decent stats, but it certainly doesn't scream "best big man in the NBA"

Hoopsmeister
05-05-2002, 07:24 PM
<< Thats an average of 11 rebounds, 2.3 blocks, 6.6 points
Decent stats, but it certainly doesn't scream &quot;best big man in the NBA&quot; >>



But it does scream &quot;best little big man in the NBA&quot; :-)

madape
05-05-2002, 07:45 PM
I didn't know that shortness was such a virtue. Hell, maybe if he was 6'5&quot;, he'd be regarded as the best player of all time!

Hoopsmeister
05-05-2002, 09:26 PM
<< I didn't know that shortness was such a virtue. Hell, maybe if he was 6'5&quot;, he'd be regarded as the best player of all time! >>



Actually, I was being facetious, but check out the threads for Iverson as a top 5 player for this argument. If AI was 6'8&quot; and jacked up that many shots at that percentage, the only issue would be why he can't get his game up to Stackhouse's level.

I agree that when looking at players actual productivity and usefulness, height is irrelevant. OTOH, when you look at a player individually, seeing what AI or Wallace can do at their height (or conversely what a 7-footer like Dirk can do with guard skills) is very impressive.