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nikeball
06-25-2009, 03:38 PM
a good amount of people on this board wanted VC...

guess that isnt happening.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197

Sources: Nets, Magic in serious talks

The New Jersey Nets are in serious talks with the Magic about a deal that will send Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson to Orlando for Rafer Alston, Tony Battie and Courtney Lee, two league sources told ESPN.com.

The talks have reached a point that a deal could be done by the end of the day Thursday, according to sources.

The trade would give the Magic even more star power on their quest to win an NBA championship. The addition of Carter to a lineup that already consists of All-Star players Dwight Howard, Rashard Lewis and Jameer Nelson would make Orlando the favorite to win the Eastern Conference title next year if the franchise also finds a way to bring back Hedo Turkoglu, who will opt out of his contract this summer.

As for the Nets, the move is a cost-cutting measure. Both Alston and Battie are in the last year of their contracts, and trading for them would shave $16.5 million off New Jersey's roster in the summer of 2010 and put the Nets well below the salary cap.

The deal, if completed, would also give the Nets a young, promising shooting guard in Lee.

Chad Ford covers the NBA and NBA draft for ESPN Insider.

twistaeffect2004
06-25-2009, 03:38 PM
Just heard this on WFan in NY. The rumored proposal is Lee, Alston and Battie to Jersey for VC. It's also being reported on realgm.com that it could be done by the end if the night.

dirk2003
06-25-2009, 03:39 PM
Fuck the Mavs.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
06-25-2009, 03:40 PM
If we roll out the same team in 09 as 08 I'm not watching any of it.


I gotta say though, how many VC to Orlando threads do we really need?

DevinHarriswillstart
06-25-2009, 03:41 PM
Meanwhile, the Mavs traded down two more slots because they felt the player they want will be there...even though a lot of talented players are slipping.

nikeball
06-25-2009, 03:46 PM
If we roll out the same team in 09 as 08 I'm not watching any of it.


I gotta say though, how many VC to Orlando threads do we really need?

I was first :)

because when I hit submit thread..twista's was not up yet :)

mavs777
06-25-2009, 03:53 PM
thank you, never wanted RJ or VC, not worth the risk.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
06-25-2009, 03:55 PM
I was first :)

because when I hit submit thread..twista's was not up yet :)

Nope, this was way before either of yours, there's 3.

http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35341

FINtastic
06-25-2009, 03:55 PM
Holy crap this is a busy time in the NBA.

Really depressing each time I hear of a trade go down and the Mavs aren't involved. Maybe this will fall through.

nikeball
06-25-2009, 04:03 PM
Nope, this was way before either of yours, there's 3.

http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35341

OOOOOOOOOF. :( in my defense...

Most of us don't visit that forum. The outlandish trades proposals make me really angry. :mad:

alby
06-25-2009, 04:10 PM
If true, I'm pretty much done with this offseason.

toby451
06-25-2009, 04:11 PM
They just said its official on GAC.

VC for Lee/battie/something I forgot

Sure is getting down to slim pickins...

Donnie/cubes better have one hell of a deal ready...

grndmstr_c
06-25-2009, 04:16 PM
I'm holding off on passing judgment on what this does for Orlando until I see how they handle free agency, though they get better, regardless.

The Nets, on the other hand. If they draft Williams, give them a ton of credit for how they've set themselves up for 2010. He projects to be almost exactly the kind of guy you want to have playing with Devin.

twistaeffect2004
06-25-2009, 04:17 PM
Ryan Anderson is also going to the Magic.

This is getting depressing for the Mavs.

At least we have two second round picks though!1111

tcat075
06-25-2009, 04:24 PM
Yup, Ryan Anderson is going too.

dirk2003
06-25-2009, 04:24 PM
thank you, never wanted RJ or VC, not worth the risk.

I hope you're being sarcastic, you fool!

jthig32
06-25-2009, 04:25 PM
So...can we panic now?

slowmo
06-25-2009, 04:28 PM
Mav's SUCK!!!!! Nobody left that could change the mav's for the better and put us back in contention. Kaman alone wouldn't do it. Can't wait to see the headlines that we trade for TMac and Yao so we can have the medovac on call every game!

DevinHarriswillstart
06-25-2009, 04:29 PM
So...can we panic now?

Assuming that isnt a joke.....No kidding. I'm tired of boy wonders on here trying to put out the fire. The real question is...Are the Mavs ACTUALLY trying to get an impact player? That seems so rhetorical yet I don't feel it.

mac222b
06-25-2009, 04:34 PM
Well they sure made sure Rod Thorn won't rip them off twice!! So what are the odds that we just don't make a move this summer? about 50/50 now? Unless we're trading for half the Bobcats/Clippers rosters i don't see how we match these moves by Orlando,SA,Cleveland. Kaman and MLE won't cut it.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
06-25-2009, 04:35 PM
Anyone on this board that's still optimistic, not just after the last 2 days but after the last few years of F.O. let downs, must believe in the tooth fairy and the easter bunny. And also that the Government cares about them as well.

Dtownsfinest
06-25-2009, 04:36 PM
thank you, never wanted RJ or VC, not worth the risk.

Who do you want? Kobe?

SMC0007
06-25-2009, 04:38 PM
Assuming that isnt a joke.....No kidding. I'm tired of boy wonders on here trying to put out the fire. The real question is...Are the Mavs ACTUALLY trying to get an impact player? That seems so rhetorical yet I don't feel it.


Pfft

FINtastic
06-25-2009, 04:39 PM
Who do you want? Kobe?

I'd rather have Lebron, thank you. Maybe Dwyane Wade.

alby
06-25-2009, 04:41 PM
IMO, this makes Hedo somewhat expendable--I know Vince and Hedo are different types of players but a lineup that includes Nelson/Carter/Lewis/Howard is pretty freaking good. I will now include them in the Sheed for MLE race. If they do manage to re-sign Hedo and Gortat, I consider them the best team in the Eastern Conference and that is including Shaq/Lebron and a healthy Celtics squad.

Could we have offered anything better than Rafer's 5.2 million dollar expiring, Battie's 6.3 million dollar expiring, and a serviceable SG? I would think so.

FINtastic
06-25-2009, 04:43 PM
Oh, and...

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp281/mffl199/suicide_small.jpg

twistaeffect2004
06-25-2009, 04:45 PM
IMO, this makes Hedo somewhat expendable--I know Vince and Hedo are different types of players but a lineup that includes Nelson/Carter/Lewis/Howard is pretty freaking good. I will now include them in the Sheed for MLE race. If they do manage to re-sign Hedo and Gortat, I consider them the best team in the Eastern Conference and that is including Shaq/Lebron and a healthy Celtics squad.

Could we have offered anything better than Rafer's 5.2 million dollar expiring, Battie's 6.3 million dollar expiring, and a serviceable SG? I would think so.

We have no one with Lee's upside.

mac222b
06-25-2009, 04:45 PM
So is Cubes just done spending was all of this talk of only trading for an all-star code for "i'm not willing to spend money". because RJ&VC are as close as we're gonna get to all-stars this offseason. last i checked deron williams and brandon roy weren't available.

FINtastic
06-25-2009, 04:49 PM
We have no one with Lee's upside.

I was kind of thinking the same thing, but what about a guy like Bass? What is Lee's upside?

Oh well.

Underdog
06-25-2009, 04:51 PM
So...can we panic now?

Probably...

ty
06-25-2009, 04:59 PM
Check.

Sucks for Itachi who started the other thread...earlier...

ty
06-25-2009, 05:01 PM
thank you, never wanted RJ or VC, not worth the risk.

Risk is exactly what we need right now. Without risk we are see-sawing around the 8th seed.

Good God, people!

Stranger
06-25-2009, 05:10 PM
Am I crazy or are lottery teams just giving away players to help contenders?

Stranger
06-25-2009, 05:11 PM
I don't believe this to be the case, but it almost looks like collusion to make top teams more competitive to help the state of the sport.

mac222b
06-25-2009, 05:12 PM
Am I crazy or are lottery teams just giving away players to help contenders?

Nope you're not crazy,they are. Maybe that's why we're not getting any---we're no longer contenders!

ty
06-25-2009, 05:13 PM
Nope you're not crazy,they are. Maybe that's why we're not getting any---we're no longer contenders!

That is so sad, yet so true.

Underdog
06-25-2009, 05:15 PM
I don't believe this to be the case, but it almost looks like collusion to make top teams more competitive to help the state of the sport.

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do in a tough economy - Stern's no dummy...


;)

purplefrog
06-25-2009, 05:17 PM
If you're not moving forward then you are moving backward... there is no standing pat and expecting to do better or even the same as the previous season. This feels an awful lot like last offseason AND the time running up to the trade deadline in '09. The American Airlines Center needs to be half empty next season if this represents the best effort by the Mavs FO.

badfish22
06-25-2009, 05:35 PM
Mark cuban and Donnie Nelson are fucking losers.

grndmstr_c
06-25-2009, 05:35 PM
Could we have offered anything better than Rafer's 5.2 million dollar expiring, Battie's 6.3 million dollar expiring, and a serviceable SG? I would think so.
We could have, but we would've had to include Josh, and I don't think that would've been worth it.

MavsFanFinley
06-25-2009, 05:40 PM
Incredible trade for the Magic. Damn.

DevinHarriswillstart
06-25-2009, 05:49 PM
We could have, but we would've had to include Josh, and I don't think that would've been worth it.

Where is your source that says we would have had to include Josh?

grndmstr_c
06-25-2009, 05:54 PM
Where is your source that says we would have had to include Josh?
It's conjecture regarding the kind of offer that would've been superior to Orlando's, and based on the reporting last year that Josh is who NJ was asking for in discussions about VC.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
06-25-2009, 05:54 PM
Where is your source that says we would have had to include Josh?

He's just guessing. There isn't any link where you can find the Mavs being involved with any team, for any player/pick. Which is sad.

CadBane
06-25-2009, 05:59 PM
Donnie: "We like our scrubs."

If Anderson weren't involved, I'd say it's a decent trade for NJ, but throwing him in makes it a bit worse. I like Lee, and the expiring contracts are nice, but meh, esp. if you throw in RA.

DevinHarriswillstart
06-25-2009, 06:00 PM
It's conjecture regarding the kind of offer that would've been superior to Orlando's, and based on the reporting last year that Josh is who NJ was asking for in discussions about VC.

Ok, just making sure that it is conjecture and not actual fact.

badfish22
06-25-2009, 06:05 PM
Nets Gm: Alright Donnie if you give us a package including Jason Terry, we will give you Carter

Donnie: WHAT WHAT WHAT!!? Hes part of our core, we love our team!! *slams down phone*

BGMaverick9
06-25-2009, 06:12 PM
wow...that is all I can say.

sike
06-25-2009, 06:16 PM
triple sad

BGMaverick9
06-25-2009, 06:18 PM
gotta shift to bigs now in a trade...there just aren't that many options left to try to trade for with SF/SGs that would make a big difference on our team.

CadBane
06-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Donnie won't part with anyone, he's like mother dog...aka a..

Dirkenstien
06-25-2009, 07:07 PM
fire. the. idiot.

Flacolaco
06-25-2009, 07:51 PM
We have no one with Lee's upside.

After watching the Finals, I was thinking we don't have anyone with his stupidity.