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Fidel
10-28-2009, 10:34 AM
Since no one posted one I thought I´d do it. Just to see my creation on the "Around the NBA" frontpage whole season long. I love to be in the spotlight ;-)

Fidel
10-28-2009, 10:40 AM
And here´s a brave prediction to get things rolling: The Lakers and the Celtics will be good.


;-)

pepe
10-28-2009, 02:31 PM
Here is my prediction.

The Rockets will make the Playoffs.

Rasheed will help the Celtics more than advertise.

Randy Foye & Mike Miller will make Grundfield Executive of the Year.

Oden will make the 1st Team on Defense.

Before I forget, Eric Gordon will be on the top 3 for Most Improve Player.

mavs777
10-28-2009, 07:45 PM
Cavs down 18 at half to Toronto Bargnani with 21

Dirkenstien
10-28-2009, 07:59 PM
Orlando is going to be a serious contender this year. They're simply stacked on paper and they're laying it down on the court. Makes me sick.

badfish22
10-28-2009, 09:07 PM
Blair is the biggest steal I have seen in a while. A second round draft pick contributing in the very first game. Has that ever even happened?

quietsavant
10-28-2009, 09:53 PM
Stephen Curry??? asdfghjkl!! I'm a fan, hate to say this but i'm a fan of a golden state player

TVI
10-28-2009, 09:58 PM
Blair is the biggest steal I have seen in a while. A second round draft pick contributing in the very first game. Has that ever even happened?

Nice NBA debut game for the rook...a little foul prone, but he should learn to avoid that in the future.

D. Blair (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4642)
22:33 7-10 0-0 0-1 +11 5 11 3 2 0 0 0 4 14

Spurs' bench was scary good...very deep...

pepe
10-28-2009, 10:01 PM
Nenad Kristi and Marc Gasol with great performances.

Gallinari and WChandler are the real deal.

Brooks Lopez on his way to be one of the top 3 Centers in the NBA.

Jeff Green with a pretty line 24PT 8RB 2 AS 3 ST IBS

Omar Casspi might be the best rookie for the Kings.

And I agree, DBlair could be the steal of the draft.

BTW the Magic shoot 55% from 3 on......29 shots

badfish22
10-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Brook Lopez = :eek:

pepe
10-28-2009, 10:29 PM
Stephen Curry??? asdfghjkl!! I'm a fan, hate to say this but i'm a fan of a golden state player

But the real question is, what happen to Antony "Magic" Randolph?...Is he hurt?

pepe
10-28-2009, 10:43 PM
"Magic Randolph" just enter the game with 3:00 to go in the 2nd Quarter...What the heck....This guy is supposed to be the second coming...Strange, very strange.

fluid.forty.one
10-28-2009, 11:35 PM
I really wish I didn't pass up on Brook Lopez in fantasy.

mavs777
10-28-2009, 11:55 PM
Brook Lopez = :eek:

he is a beast

fluid.forty.one
10-28-2009, 11:58 PM
after one game... Portland, LA, Denver and SA all look way better than we do.


after one game

CadBane
10-29-2009, 12:00 AM
Lawson having a great game. And we don't even play Roddy.

Dirkenstien
10-29-2009, 02:03 PM
after one game... Portland, LA, Denver and SA all look way better than we do.


after one game

Yep. Not to mention some eastern teams. It's a long season and I know a lot can happen but my guess is that we're going to need some kind of trade to have any chance at competing for a championship.

badfish22
10-29-2009, 08:15 PM
Everytime I watch Rose play, I like him just a little bit more. The man is a baller

mavs777
10-29-2009, 09:14 PM
SA down 10

CadBane
10-29-2009, 09:54 PM
Man, I love to watch that Bulls team play. Henrich, Thomas, Miller, Noah are great. And I'll tell you what, Henrich is one of the most underrated players in basketball. He absolutely shut down Manu, Parker and Mason. I don't think Manu scored once when Henrich was on him. Last year in the playoffs he locked down Pierce, couple years ago he shut down the infamous Wade. Some people might call it crazy, but I'd take Henrich over any guard we have on our roster. He's one of the best defenders in the NBA, he's a great shooter, high bball IQ, and a very good passer (better than the stats would indicate). Plus he can legitimately play the 1 and 2 on O and D without being a negative at either.

fluid.forty.one
10-30-2009, 12:13 AM
Melo looks like a different animal during these first couple games... like, scary good.

fluid.forty.one
10-30-2009, 12:42 AM
greg oden!

badfish22
10-30-2009, 12:46 AM
lol I felt bad for him there. I had a feeling he was gonna miss those.

Carmelo looks very scary

dirno2000
10-30-2009, 12:55 AM
Melo looks like a different animal during these first couple games... like, scary good.

Looks like he's as light as he's been since college...he's blowing by people instead of banging on them.

quietsavant
10-30-2009, 01:25 AM
Man, I love to watch that Bulls team play. Henrich, Thomas, Miller, Noah are great. And I'll tell you what, Henrich is one of the most underrated players in basketball. He absolutely shut down Manu, Parker and Mason. I don't think Manu scored once when Henrich was on him. Last year in the playoffs he locked down Pierce, couple years ago he shut down the infamous Wade. Some people might call it crazy, but I'd take Henrich over any guard we have on our roster. He's one of the best defenders in the NBA, he's a great shooter, high bball IQ, and a very good passer (better than the stats would indicate). Plus he can legitimately play the 1 and 2 on O and D without being a negative at either.
crazy....


lol, no i understand your point. its not that he's overly talented on D. he's just pesky and in your face. he's irritating and superstars hate that

Dirkenstien
10-30-2009, 08:41 AM
crazy....


lol, no i understand your point. its not that he's overly talented on D. he's just pesky and in your face. he's irritating and superstars hate that

So does David Stern.

sefant77
10-30-2009, 04:28 PM
New logos from ESPN. Awesome.


http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1028/pg2_nbalogosA3_576.jpg

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1028/pg2_nbalogosB3_576.jpg[/QUOTE]

badfish22
10-30-2009, 06:35 PM
Warriors is the best one.

mavs777
10-30-2009, 09:05 PM
Josh Smith is a totally different player so far, no dumb shots so far this year

Jon Avalon
10-31-2009, 02:07 AM
ATL is looked a bit dangerous in tonight's game. Crawford has added a new jolt to their offense.

CadBane
10-31-2009, 08:25 PM
Man. Blatche is 15-18 tonight with 30 points.

CadBane
10-31-2009, 09:20 PM
Gallinari is stroking it.

fluid.forty.one
10-31-2009, 10:08 PM
Houston better not let Portland steal this one....

Dirkenstien
10-31-2009, 10:51 PM
Ariza is making LA look pretty silly.

Jon Avalon
10-31-2009, 11:27 PM
Jeeze, sixers jacked up 141 points tonight.

darkwitzki
11-01-2009, 01:28 AM
Magette has 42 points.

GuerillaBlack
11-01-2009, 01:07 AM
Ariza is making LA look pretty silly.

damn right he is. and i'm loving it. :)

Hitman
11-01-2009, 07:51 AM
The Knicks are 0-3, but they are a couple of bounces from being 2-1 -

and,

Danilo Gallinari is no joke. This kid is going to be awesome. He has the potential to be a superstar power forward like Dirk.

Possibly better.

sefant77
11-01-2009, 08:11 AM
Until now he is a chucker with no defense and plays in a LOL´Antoni System. Let the hype begin.

mary
11-01-2009, 09:57 AM
Those logos are hysterical.

I don't quite get the T-wolves, Bobcats and Pacers.

jthig32
11-01-2009, 10:03 AM
Wolves: Kurt Rambis is their coach this year. When he played he was known for those type of glasses.

Bobcats: Looks like a ping-pong ball, which is the only thing they're playing for?

Pacers: Turned the P into a question mark. Not sure what the significance is.

mary
11-01-2009, 10:06 AM
Ahhh..thanks. I figured someone must be wearing glasses with the T-wolves, but the ping-pong ball and questions mark totally escaped me.

GermanDunk
11-01-2009, 11:02 AM
Manu Ginobili is 1 AB, now... :D

jthig32
11-01-2009, 11:56 AM
Manu Ginobili is 1 AB, now... :D

That was pretty cool.

dirno2000
11-01-2009, 07:47 PM
Manu's bald spot is beginning to be a distraction. It's all I'm able to concentrate on when he's on the floor. I have no idea why he doesn't cut it. It's like watching an Argentinean World B. Free.

dirno2000
11-01-2009, 07:57 PM
The Knicks are 0-3, but they are a couple of bounces from being 2-1 -

and,

Danilo Gallinari is no joke. This kid is going to be awesome. He has the potential to be a superstar power forward like Dirk.

Possibly better.

He can obviously shoot but it's going to take more than that for him to come close to Dirk. Does he have the same heart, toughness and work ethic? I'm guessing no but time will tell.

fluid.forty.one
11-01-2009, 08:14 PM
Manu killing the bat still makes me laugh out loud.

fluid.forty.one
11-01-2009, 08:18 PM
Blazers have gotten a foul call on basically every possession the past 5 minutes.

CadBane
11-01-2009, 10:00 PM
The Knicks are 0-3, but they are a couple of bounces from being 2-1 -

and,

Danilo Gallinari is no joke. This kid is going to be awesome. He has the potential to be a superstar power forward like Dirk.

Possibly better.

The real question is, who will be the better player between Gallinari and Bargs? At this point Gallinari is an extremely glorified VladRad. Bargs is the better defender and has a more versatile offensive game. Both are very poor rebounders.

Gallinari will never be Dirk, I can guarantee you that. He will never have the post game of Dirk, never have the rebounding skills, and never have the ability to create his own shot and get to the FT line like Dirk. Danilo is putting up dozens of threes with the Knicks, well, because it's D'Antoni. Bargs would be doing the same thing there. Gallinari is 6"11, 220. Yes, he can grow into a better rebounder like Dirk did. Yes, he can become a better defender, ect. But, having watched him for awhile, I don't think he has the ability/skills to ever create for himself or play in the post like Dirk does. I think he'll always be a shooter, granted a 20-25 PPG shooter. Perhaps a taller prime Peja.

In the long run though, I see Bargs being the better overall player.

CadBane
11-01-2009, 10:03 PM
Another Euro who's doing work:

Marc Gasol. Man is averaging 20/11/2/2/1 on 70% shooting, and tonight he put up 20/11/4 on 7/9 shooting.

FINtastic
11-01-2009, 10:43 PM
Another Euro who's doing work:

Marc Gasol. Man is averaging 20/11/2/2/1 on 70% shooting, and tonight he put up 20/11/4 on 7/9 shooting.

You know I'm beginning to think we were a little premature in ripping Mr. Chris Wallace for the Pau trade. Getting Marc Gasol out of that trade is making it look like less and less of the lopsided deal that I once thought it was.

FINtastic
11-01-2009, 11:31 PM
By the way, Carmelo is picking up where he left off in the playoffs. He just dropped 42 points to push his scoring average up to 37.7 ppg. You know I always thought he had it in him to lead the league in scoring, and this might be the year that he finally does it.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
11-01-2009, 11:39 PM
I remember being convinced that Carmelo was going to be better than Lebron when they were rookies. So far I'm wrong but if he keeps improving he could get to Lebron's level.

GermanDunk
11-02-2009, 01:39 AM
Oh Oh

O. Mayo / Years Pro: 1 / 40 Points vs. Nuggets

sefant77
11-02-2009, 02:58 AM
Rondo and Paul are such little bitches, blargh

Nowitzki4President
11-02-2009, 05:00 AM
Oh Oh

O. Mayo / Years Pro: 1 / 40 Points vs. Nuggets

Fuck! I just dropped him off my Fantasy team! :mad:

mavErika
11-02-2009, 05:32 AM
to paraphrase Chris Paul:

KG>Okafor
P.Pierce>D.West
R.Allen>Peja

Dirkenstien
11-02-2009, 09:05 AM
Orlando is playing like the best team in basketball right now. 17-32 from beyond the arc against the Raptors. You kidding me? Beat Toronto without Vince, Pietrus, or Rashard Lewis. Redick stepped in and played 44 minutes and had 27 points, six rebounds, and five assist with only one turnover. Ryan Anderson is taking most of Bass' minutes.

Gortat played 14 minutes and shot 0-3 with 1 rebound and 3 fouls.


By the way, I still hate Orlando for the Gortat situation, but it may come back to bite them in the long run.

jthig32
11-02-2009, 09:07 AM
Otis Smith better hope that the Magic keep winning and/or he has a trade partner lined up for Gortat that isn't going to back out.

Because based simply on the kind of playing time Gortat is getting, that contract is looking more and more ridiculous.

Dirkenstien
11-02-2009, 09:11 AM
Otis Smith better hope that the Magic keep winning and/or he has a trade partner lined up for Gortat that isn't going to back out.

Because based simply on the kind of playing time Gortat is getting, that contract is looking more and more ridiculous.

Yep, Ryan Anderson is looking like their best off season acquisition so far and he was just thought to be a throw in on the Vince deal. He's taller and better than Bass and is beating Bass out for minutes which may end up making the Bass signing look a little silly also. Then again, as long as they're winning everything will be golden for them.

CadBane
11-02-2009, 02:53 PM
I loved Anderson at California, he's like a uber Steve Novak with better rebounding skills.

Dirkenstien
11-02-2009, 04:42 PM
Yeah he's been impressive considering the expectations. Not an above the rim kind of guy but he gets down the court quickly enough in transition, position himself well for the spot up three, and I've even seen him put in the floor and drive to the hole a couple times in the two Orlando games I've watched.

mavErika
11-02-2009, 09:30 PM
Hornets fell to the Knicks and are now 1-3, just like the Knicks. Okafor looks fantastic though, I hoped the rumors before the season about chemistry issues at the hornets were true, but if they are, it's not bothering him nor CP. Gotta hope they continue loosing nonetheless, today was a good start for sure.

Bobcats beat the Devin-less Nets and G.Wallace put up a ridicoulus 24/20. After 4 games he's averaging 14 rebounds. When was the last time a small forward did either of that?

Rockets-Jazz is still close shortly after halftime, it would be nice if the Rockettes keep it competitive until the final minute. Maybe they can even escape with a win.

mavErika
11-02-2009, 10:31 PM
Orlando is playing like the best team in basketball right now. 17-32 from beyond the arc against the Raptors. You kidding me? Beat Toronto without Vince, Pietrus, or Rashard Lewis. Redick stepped in and played 44 minutes and had 27 points, six rebounds, and five assist with only one turnover. Ryan Anderson is taking most of Bass' minutes.

Gortat played 14 minutes and shot 0-3 with 1 rebound and 3 fouls.


By the way, I still hate Orlando for the Gortat situation, but it may come back to bite them in the long run.
After that game I looked at their roster to check what their playoff rotation might be, provided they stay healthy and don't trade anybody.
Recently they have only 13 players under contract, but if they want to get to nine, 2 out of the group of Anderson, Barnes, Bass, Reddick and Pietrus will have to take a seat besides A.Johnson and A.Foyle. So all you can say now is that they will either sit a lot of talent, or they won't play a tight playoff-rotation at all. They could even take on another player with that trade exception from the Turkoglu S&T, but they already have the highest payroll in the league.

edit: Btw, Utah lost and their starters played at least 34 min each. That's a good set-up for our game tomorrow, no?

badfish22
11-02-2009, 11:23 PM
Hornets fell to the Knicks and are now 1-3, just like the Knicks. Okafor looks fantastic though, I hoped the rumors before the season about chemistry issues at the hornets were true, but if they are, it's not bothering him nor CP. Gotta hope they continue loosing nonetheless, today was a good start for sure.


The hornets just are not deep enough. They got 3 great players but after that, its kinda all scrubs.

And btw whats up with Jordan Hill not playing every game for the knicks. It says coacher decision....
I knew they should have gone with Jennings. He is tearing it up over in Milwaukee. Plus his personality would have fit in great with NY.

Windmill360
11-02-2009, 11:27 PM
rockets are gonna make the playoffs

fluid.forty.one
11-02-2009, 11:37 PM
kevin martin is the man

badfish22
11-02-2009, 11:54 PM
kevin martin is the man

7 3-pointers and 45 points. I dont care who you're playing, those are crazy numbers.

fluid.forty.one
11-02-2009, 11:57 PM
I'm so glad I have him on one of my fantasy teams... daamn.

dirno2000
11-03-2009, 12:14 AM
The hornets just are not deep enough. They got 3 great players but after that, its kinda all scrubs.

And btw whats up with Jordan Hill not playing every game for the knicks. It says coacher decision....
I knew they should have gone with Jennings. He is tearing it up over in Milwaukee. Plus his personality would have fit in great with NY.

On the Hornets you have a very liberal definition of great.

On Jordan Hill I've been thinking the same thing. The hiring of Donnie Walsh was praised in basketball circles but it appears he screwed up a pick that he absolutely could not afford to screw up. They don't have their pick next year so he'll be trying to sell Lebron on a team built around Danilo Gallinari and David Lee....if they can retain him. It's gone from long shot to no way in hell.

Windmill360
11-03-2009, 12:33 AM
I'm so glad I have him on one of my fantasy teams... daamn.

haha me too. I have him AND kobe

GuerillaBlack
11-03-2009, 08:23 AM
rockets are gonna make the playoffs

Go Rockets Go!!

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
11-05-2009, 05:18 PM
No punishment for Rondo, Paul
Posted on: November 5, 2009 11:12 am

After reviewing the altercation between Rajon Rondo and Chris Paul during and after Sunday's game in Boston between the Celtics and Hornets, the NBA decided not to take disciplinary action against either player.

Neither point guard will receive any type of fine or suspension for the fracas, which boiled over after Rondo incensed Paul by reportedly chiding him that he's won a championship and Paul never will. Earlier in the game, won by the Celtics 97-87, each player received a technical foul for a confrontation under the basket. After the final buzzer, the players exchanged words and had to be separated as the teams left the floor. Paul unsuccessfully tried to enter the Celtics' locker room to continue the discussion, and Hornets coach Byron Scott said he overheard Paul saying, "He's going to respect me as a man."

The Celtics are off to a 6-0 start, while the Hornets are struggling out of the gate with a 2-3 record that has only intensified Paul's frustration.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/18113203

Paul's ego is way too big. Way too much pride.

Dirkadirkastan
11-05-2009, 07:33 PM
Paul is a bitch, but if he was in Boston instead of Rondo, we might as well cancel the rest of the season since it would be too predictable.

monty55555
11-05-2009, 09:58 PM
Wow, Bulls win over the Cavs.

I was SHOCKED that LeBron didn't get that call. There was clearly no foul as LeBron lost the ball, but as soon as he drove to the basket and Deng and Noah went up to guard him, I was saying "oh damn, foul for sure"... and .... no call. Hell just froze over.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
11-05-2009, 11:54 PM
Are the refs actually doing their job this year and not doing favortism anymore? That would be fantastic.

I don't think last year JJB would of got that charge call against Chris Paul.

Flacolaco
11-06-2009, 12:44 AM
I don't think last year JJB would of got that charge call against Chris Paul.

I was surprised too. Even more surprised that those ESPN hacks defended the call.

Still, that's just another reason why the Mavs should have...ah hell.

Anyway, it's early. The same old BS will come out in the wash in the end as far as officiating goes. Dirk may, MAY have benefited from it in his miraculous 4th quarter. It generally evens out IMO.

Usually Lurkin
11-06-2009, 12:50 AM
By the end of the season, after people forget, and assuming Donaghy is sufficiently silenced, all will be back to normal in the NBA.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
11-06-2009, 01:09 AM
Stern's Brain: Kill Donaghy, hand Lebron the trophy. Cha-Ching!

Kidd Karma
11-06-2009, 01:43 PM
In a sick, sick way, Stern could actually control where LBJ goes next summer, NY, NJ or Cle, by allowing the Russians to take over the Brooklyn project. A lot more calls in close games ala last night, keeping that trophy out of Clevelands hand.

RareMilk
11-06-2009, 05:43 PM
Anyone been able to read the ESPN article "top upcoming star reserve"? It has RoddyB as the main picture but unfortunately I am not an insider

badfish22
11-06-2009, 06:02 PM
Anyone been able to read the ESPN article "top upcoming star reserve"? It has RoddyB as the main picture but unfortunately I am not an insider

I guess I will post it here too.

Its not much, but the fact that hes the face they chose for the "bench notables" is pretty cool.
Heres what they said:

Rodrigue Beaubois, 21 | Mavericks | 6'0" PG
Scout 2: "Athletically, he's off the charts. But he has to learn how to run a team. Playing behind Jason Kidd, he'll pick up a lot of nuances and habits that should pay dividends for the Mavericks later in the season."

The Mag: The rookie is a future star. He won't make a huge impact this season, but fans will know his name and salivate about what's to come. He'll have moments, both good and bad, but Kidd's presence will enable him to learn slowly and add the cerebral part of the game to his athleticism.

CadBane
11-06-2009, 09:34 PM
I have high hopes for Roddy. That said, I want to point out a guy I liked, who some here hated on, is playing really well thus far, Mr. Chase Budinger.

Putting up 9 PPG on 50/40 shooting. 16 points tonight thus far.

Tyler with an impressive 13 points and 10 ftas in only 13 minutes in his season debut.

DOMINATOR
11-06-2009, 09:44 PM
man i'm really liking my rockets this year. who needs stars when your coach is adelman.
yao was great and all but i just got tired of watching half court ball.

mavs777
11-06-2009, 10:04 PM
man i'm really liking my rockets this year. who needs stars when your coach is adelman.
yao was great and all but i just got tired of watching half court ball.

why is a rockets fan on a mavs forum? :confused::eek:


The Rockets I still think are a 7/8 seed that will be one and done

badfish22
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Anyone else think we might of under rated the Suns coming into this year?

They just beat the Celtics. At Boston.

quietsavant
11-07-2009, 12:12 AM
Uh-oh san antonio. All that "firepower" in richard jefferson and blair and mcdyess and ratliff and keith bogans and 2 straight losses, granted its @ utah and @ portland but pops called a timeout 40secs into the start of the game and he just chewed the hell out of jefferson. Was beautiful to watch

mavs777
11-07-2009, 12:25 AM
Anyone else think we might of under rated the Suns coming into this year?

They just beat the Celtics. At Boston.

It is early, but they are a much better team without Shaq slowing them down. I wait 25 games before making judgements on teams fwiw

fluid.forty.one
11-07-2009, 02:47 AM
dammit spurs

DOMINATOR
11-07-2009, 02:49 AM
why is a rockets fan on a mavs forum? :confused::eek:


The Rockets I still think are a 7/8 seed that will be one and done

dunno i believe there was an interesting topic when i registered. i trolled occasionally, now i dont really care just like to discuss basketball. sometimes theres a bit too much red on the goggles over at clutchfans.

and i live in dallas now.

dirno2000
11-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Gotta hand it to Daryl Morey, he's on an amazing run. Scola, Landry and Buddinger for 2nd rounders and Brooks for a late 1st. Still, I can't help but wonder how T-Mac will effect the chemistry they've developed when he returns.

dirno2000
11-07-2009, 04:34 PM
dammit spurs

I know it's tough living in Portland but you hate them worse than the Spurs?

rmacomic
11-07-2009, 05:12 PM
why is a rockets fan on a mavs forum? :confused::eek:


DOMINATOR has been posting here for a couple of years as far as I can remember. He generally tends to behave himself and doesn't troll much, which is more than I can say for some of the Mavs fans posting here.

sefant77
11-07-2009, 06:03 PM
Gotta hand it to Daryl Morey, he's on an amazing run. Scola, Landry and Buddinger for 2nd rounders and Brooks for a late 1st. Still, I can't help but wonder how T-Mac will effect the chemistry they've developed when he returns.

Morey is overrated.

Yes, he doesnt overpay players with extensions or MLE etc, but the last year he did major faults.

- not trading McGrady after realizing that both Ming and McLady are way too much a injury prone and that it would be pure lottey hoping they both can play a 100+ games season. And specially not doing that trade with Detroit for Billups and Prince. Just see what Billups did with Denver...

- being too cheap to pay for a quality backup center that would have allowed Yao to play Duncan style 30-34min each game and maybe sit out some b2b. Yes, even if such a center maybe cost 5mio a year

- after McGradys in&out not to trade for a pure pg that can bring the ball to Yao any time. Alston, Brooks, thats a pure fail when it comes to playing with Yao. Yes Brooks is nice and young but hE and Lowry are not pgs for a game with Yao. They should sell Brooks next summer high and get a pg for Yao. But they wont and i will again laugh my ass off when Yao get fronted every game and Brooks and Lowry cant throw a damn pass to him.

dirno2000
11-07-2009, 06:29 PM
Morey is overrated.

Yes, he doesnt overpay players with extensions or MLE etc, but the last year he did major faults.

- not trading McGrady after realizing that both Ming and McLady are way too much a injury prone and that it would be pure lottey hoping they both can play a 100+ games season. And specially not doing that trade with Detroit for Billups and Prince. Just see what Billups did with Denver...

I don't know about that one. The objective of the Billups deal was the dump salary to be a player in the marketplace this past summer. Iverson allowed them to do that, McGrady did not.

- being too cheap to pay for a quality backup center that would have allowed Yao to play Duncan style 30-34min each game and maybe sit out some b2b. Yes, even if such a center maybe cost 5mio a year

When you talk about being "too cheap" you're getting into the realm of ownership. Let Alexander sets the budget, Morey has to work within it.

Plus we saw ourselves that the MLE wasn't enough to get Gortat and Diop cost the entire MLE last summer. If anyone knows how hard it is to get a decent back up center for less than full MLE money it's us.

When you can build the core of a playoff team (assuming they make the playoffs and McGrady doesn't contribute much) with late 1st rounders and 2nd rounders that's pretty damn good.

sefant77
11-07-2009, 06:42 PM
Then make it Morey and "Alexander as great owner" are overrated. They screw huge up with McGrady (not trading him) and Yao (no backup help).

And the Pistons trade talk was a year before Billups-Iverson.

FreshJive
11-07-2009, 06:59 PM
Gotta hand it to Daryl Morey, he's on an amazing run. Scola, Landry and Buddinger for 2nd rounders and Brooks for a late 1st. Still, I can't help but wonder how T-Mac will effect the chemistry they've developed when he returns.

Scola was drafted by Houston, but a second rounder was part of the deal (mabye that's what you meant).

DOMINATOR
11-07-2009, 07:00 PM
Gotta hand it to Daryl Morey, he's on an amazing run. Scola, Landry and Buddinger for 2nd rounders and Brooks for a late 1st. Still, I can't help but wonder how T-Mac will effect the chemistry they've developed when he returns.
i'd add Lowry to that list too.



Morey is overrated.

Yes, he doesnt overpay players with extensions or MLE etc, but the last year he did major faults.

- not trading McGrady after realizing that both Ming and McLady are way too much a injury prone and that it would be pure lottey hoping they both can play a 100+ games season. And specially not doing that trade with Detroit for Billups and Prince. Just see what Billups did with Denver...
this could be one of his few mistakes. no one even knows if that deal was on the table though, and if it went through they would have to turn around and move prince or battier. Brooks was also on the rise. i would have rather done a Rip/filler for tmac. Rip is the perfect 2 guard for adelman.
if tmac comes back healthy and fits in the system well, all of this doesnt matter.


- being too cheap to pay for a quality backup center that would have allowed Yao to play Duncan style 30-34min each game and maybe sit out some b2b. Yes, even if such a center maybe cost 5mio a year
Dorsey didn't pan out, mutombo got hurt etc... not a whole lot Morey could have done if les doesnt allow him to. they did go after Gortat before dallas/orlando. really what decent centers are out there? you dallas boys should know that.
yao is just really injury prone... it is what it is.

- after McGradys in&out not to trade for a pure pg that can bring the ball to Yao any time. Alston, Brooks, thats a pure fail when it comes to playing with Yao. Yes Brooks is nice and young but hE and Lowry are not pgs for a game with Yao. They should sell Brooks next summer high and get a pg for Yao. But they wont and i will again laugh my ass off when Yao get fronted every game and Brooks and Lowry cant throw a damn pass to him.
i'd rather trade yao for an athletic big but Les won't do it because of the business connection to china.
i'd really like to see horford in a rox jersey.:cool:

les is a pretty good owner though he's bought plenty of draft picks, (3 last draft) they don't all turn out though. budinger looks like a steal so far.


Scola was drafted by Houston, but a second rounder was part of the deal (mabye that's what you meant).
spurs drafted Scola. rockets traded for his rights. v-span for scola/butler.

dirno2000
11-07-2009, 07:07 PM
Scola was drafted by Houston, but a second rounder was part of the deal (mabye that's what you meant).

Yes, that what I meant.

FreshJive
11-07-2009, 07:25 PM
spurs drafted Scola. rockets traded for his rights. v-span for scola/butler.

My bad. Sentence was supposed to say wasn't.

FINtastic
11-07-2009, 08:47 PM
I'm surprised no one is mentioning Ariza. He's probably playing a little over his head so far, but that move got underrated this offseason. He's not a bad little player.

badfish22
11-07-2009, 11:05 PM
lol jazz

Killed by the Kings. AT home. Without Kevin Martin.

It doesn't get much worse than that.

Actually it really doesn't. That is probably the worst loss you can have.

chumdawg
11-07-2009, 11:48 PM
They took the Spurs apart!

mavs777
11-08-2009, 12:20 AM
DOMINATOR has been posting here for a couple of years as far as I can remember. He generally tends to behave himself and doesn't troll much, which is more than I can say for some of the Mavs fans posting here.

k

fluid.forty.one
11-08-2009, 02:54 AM
I know it's tough living in Portland but you hate them worse than the Spurs?

I don't live with Spurs fans.

:)

fluid.forty.one
11-08-2009, 02:55 AM
lol jazz

Killed by the Kings. AT home. Without Kevin Martin.

It doesn't get much worse than that.

Actually it really doesn't. That is probably the worst loss you can have.

Didn't the Thunder beat us without Durant last year?

Dirkadirkastan
11-08-2009, 03:25 AM
Durant's a net negative, remember?

sefant77
11-08-2009, 04:53 AM
I'm surprised no one is mentioning Ariza. He's probably playing a little over his head so far, but that move got underrated this offseason. He's not a bad little player.

He is a nice typical MLE player. Good signing but not a crazy steal.

fluid.forty.one
11-08-2009, 07:26 PM
I still can't believe Kevin Martin is out for 6-8 weeks. He was scoring more for me than Dirk and Deron Williams in one of my leagues...

mqywaaah
11-08-2009, 08:21 PM
Anyone watching the OKC - ORL game? I can't believe the scores that I'm seeing

mavErika
11-09-2009, 01:09 AM
Wow, Nathan Jawai was of the bench Minnesota's leading scorer(16pts) in their 93-116 loss to Portland, grabbed six rebounds, but was also the guy with the worst +/- (-21 , which is still better than Bass' -25 in OKC).
boxscore (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=291108022)

Scoobay
11-09-2009, 08:48 AM
Wow, Nathan Jawai was of the bench Minnesota's leading scorer(16pts) in their 93-116 loss to Portland, grabbed six rebounds, but was also the guy with the worst +/- (-21 , which is still better than Bass' -25 in OKC).
boxscore (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=291108022)

and check out DJ Mbenga's line starting for the lakers who are sans P Gasol

10pts, 12 boards (4 offensive), 1 steal, 4 blocks, zero TO's, 5-9 field.

sefant77
11-10-2009, 04:25 AM
A.Wright cant defend Matt Bonner :D


http://i38.tinypic.com/10z1m51.gif
http://i34.tinypic.com/2naoei9.gif

mavs777
11-10-2009, 03:48 PM
Duncan didn't play last night either anybody know why? Parker will probably be out on wednesday

DOMINATOR
11-11-2009, 01:34 AM
nice comeback tonight mavs... didnt catch the game but i heard rockets collapsed when AB got hurt.
sure was different for the mavs to have the big men with no yao.

Dirkadirkastan
11-11-2009, 02:32 AM
Excuses.

DOMINATOR
11-11-2009, 03:06 AM
Excuses.

ha does look that way now that i read it. rockets didnt play the full 48.
was just saying quite the reversal that the mavs have the height/low post advantage now.

dirno2000
11-11-2009, 09:34 AM
How bad does your team defense have to be for Matt Bonner to dribble in from the 3-point line and dunk...

http://i38.tinypic.com/10z1m51.gif

...the worst in the league.

I've watched this gif at least 30 times and still can't believe it.

fluid.forty.one
11-12-2009, 11:24 PM
The Lakers are kicking the crap out of the Suns!

quietsavant
11-12-2009, 11:54 PM
really boring game. Jack is probably resting kobe soon

quietsavant
11-13-2009, 10:51 PM
The Rockets waived forward Pops Mensah-Bonsu on Friday.

Mensah-Bonsu played a total of 12 minutes in four games this season, averaging 1.3 points. He signed as a free agent on Sept. 3.

quietsavant
11-13-2009, 10:52 PM
Chris Paul injured
Chris Paul had to be helped off the court by teammates after apparently injuring his left ankle late in the third quarter of the Hornets' home game against the Portland Trail Blazers on Friday night.

Moments after setting up Hilton Armstrong's dunk, Paul appeared to land on Joel Przybilla's foot, before falling hard to the court.

Paul injured the same ankle earlier in the week against the Clippers.

Jon Avalon
11-14-2009, 12:58 AM
The Rockets waived forward Pops Mensah-Bonsu on Friday.

Mensah-Bonsu played a total of 12 minutes in four games this season, averaging 1.3 points. He signed as a free agent on Sept. 3.

Ah poor pops

Always though he would be a pretty decent player in this league, still can't find a home. I was so happy when we first signed him his rookie year, thought he would give us that athletic punch like Marion. But never really got a chance / playing time since he was mainly in the D-League. I'm sure some contender will pick him up.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
11-14-2009, 01:04 AM
The Whorenets are a mess aren't they. It's kinda fun to watch.

Dust chip for Chris Paul next year works for me!

2 of the teams that destroyed our spirit for awhile are in shambles now. (GS and NO)

antoinewalker
11-14-2009, 09:37 PM
so brandon jennings had 39 points through 3 quarters and 29 in the 3rd quarter alone. he has 43 right now. let's see if he can get 50...

antoinewalker
11-14-2009, 10:05 PM
wow.

Dirkadirkastan
11-14-2009, 10:19 PM
...and the Spurs lost to the Thunder at home. Again.

Dtownsfinest
11-14-2009, 10:28 PM
Goodness. Brandon Jennings is a BEAST. I guess he was right. He was the best player in this draft. A lot of teams screwed up passing him up. Meanwhile, the Bucks let Richard Jefferson go for nothing, Mike Redd is the same ol' injury prone Mike Redd and the Bucks are 5-2 lol. I pick them to make the post season every year except this year and so far so good for them. They can build that team around Jennings. Hopefully Redd can get healthy and they can make some noise.

dirno2000
11-14-2009, 11:47 PM
Goodness. Brandon Jennings is a BEAST. I guess he was right. He was the best player in this draft. A lot of teams screwed up passing him up. Meanwhile, the Bucks let Richard Jefferson go for nothing, Mike Redd is the same ol' injury prone Mike Redd and the Bucks are 5-2 lol. I pick them to make the post season every year except this year and so far so good for them. They can build that team around Jennings. Hopefully Redd can get healthy and they can make some noise.

They lost Sessions for nothing too. Along with PHX and Sac they're one of the big surprise teams in the early season. Doesn't hurt that they were the best defensive team in the league coming into tonight.

As far as Jennings there are some teams looking real foolish right now. The Knicks are the most obvious I'll bet Nellie wouldn't mind a do over either. I get the feeling that teams dropped him on their boards because they were pissed that he skipped the Euro combine. If that's true it's the talent evaluation equivalent of letting your money get mad.

With us coming to town on the second night of a back to back he could have another strong showing Monday night.

Usually Lurkin
11-14-2009, 11:52 PM
...and the Spurs lost to the Thunder at home. Again.

of course, the Mavs wouldn't take Durant if he was offered for free.
-cause his +/- sucked last year.

dirno2000
11-14-2009, 11:57 PM
of course, the Mavs wouldn't take Durant if he was offered for free.
-cause his +/- sucked last year.

In fairness that was Wayne Winston not the Mavs.

dirno2000
11-14-2009, 11:58 PM
Just read that Jennings went scoreless in the first quarter...unbelievable.

sefant77
11-15-2009, 07:01 AM
It was the Warriors in a state of mental illness...

RareMilk
11-15-2009, 12:54 PM
We go up against Jennings after a B2B. They are 5-2 and I didn't even realize it hah

fluid.forty.one
11-15-2009, 07:59 PM
Durant is a freakin' stud. 33 and 8 after 3 quarters.

Usually Lurkin
11-15-2009, 09:09 PM
Durant is a freakin' stud. 33 and 8 after 3 quarters.

Finished with 40. but -2 on the +/-, so we wouldn't take him (sorry, but I gotta poke at that idiocy all I can)

Usually Lurkin
11-15-2009, 09:10 PM
ouch. Ariza with the choke job. 0-8 in the first quarter in LA.

DOMINATOR
11-15-2009, 09:23 PM
lol, but this makes me glad artest is no longer a rocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu1zMV5j0fo

dirno2000
11-15-2009, 10:19 PM
lol, but this makes me glad artest is no longer a rocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu1zMV5j0fo

That title is misleading. He didn't throw the shoe into the crowd he got it off of the floor.

dirno2000
11-15-2009, 10:22 PM
Finished with 40. but -2 on the +/-, so we wouldn't take him (sorry, but I gotta poke at that idiocy all I can)

His net +/- was positive...second best on the team.

antoinewalker
11-16-2009, 12:34 AM
ouch. Ariza with the choke job. 0-8 in the first quarter in LA.
kobe couldn't score on him.

Dirkadirkastan
11-16-2009, 12:57 AM
That title is misleading. He didn't throw the shoe into the crowd he got it off of the floor.

I don't know why the Houston announcers try so damn hard to be the worst ones ever. You think you've seen it all then they surprise you again.

"Sportsmanship"? "Delay of game"?? WTF???

EricaLubarsky
11-16-2009, 01:40 AM
Mavs are now tied for third in the West with the Nugs and Fakers....behind Portland and Phoenix?!?! San Antonio currently out of the playoff picture? I know its early and things arent going to stay that way but that is a bizarre conference standing right now.

Also Mavs are currently pretty stinky offensively but pretty decent defensively
19th in FG%
15th in 3pt FG%

2nd in RPG
6th in rebound differential
3rd in BPG
2nd in block differential
9th in Opp PPG
5th in Opp FG%

FINtastic
11-16-2009, 02:13 AM
Is there any way the Suns are for real? I really have a hard time taking them seriously after the past couple of years. Nash is still pretty darn good, but Amare has always been too much of a flake to be counted on seriously and his numbers this year are as low as they have been in quite some time. Richardson is good but not great. They start a center that can't rebound. Grant Hill is solid but is starting to get up there in years. I just look at their roster and can't believe that are 9-2 right now, but they haven't fallen off yet. Can someone tell me how they are doing this?

Scoobay
11-16-2009, 08:46 AM
Is there any way the Suns are for real? I really have a hard time taking them seriously after the past couple of years. Nash is still pretty darn good, but Amare has always been too much of a flake to be counted on seriously and his numbers this year are as low as they have been in quite some time. Richardson is good but not great. They start a center that can't rebound. Grant Hill is solid but is starting to get up there in years. I just look at their roster and can't believe that are 9-2 right now, but they haven't fallen off yet. Can someone tell me how they are doing this?

i hear ya - the other ones i can't figure out are the Rockets. i'm sorry who do they have? Brooks is pretty good but other players are just hard working, good on D, and play well in their system.

GuerillaBlack
11-16-2009, 02:10 PM
Yeah, the Rockets are really surprising me this season. I expected us to start off with two wins so far (Memphis and the Kings), but we have been playing the supposedly "upper-echelon" teams in the west pretty damn well. We just need one superstar with this squad. It's too bad Brooks won't be an All-Star this year, since the West is loaded with PGs, but he just needs to stay consistent and I can see it happening.

EricaLubarsky
11-16-2009, 04:42 PM
Rockets are just a proof of concept of hustle anarchy. They have very few drawn-up plays and a lot of the guys are very similar in size. The team just hustles its buns off and its paid off. They still cant beat many talented teams and hustle ball tends to fade out over an 82 game season, but they are way overperforming at this point because of sheer hustle, chemistry and talent (even if a lot of it is at the same position)

Suns are 10th in reb diff, 2nd in spg but amazingly have the 4th worst opponent FG% from 2 and 3. They are just third best in FG%, and are shooting 46.3% from three as a team which is the real secret. I'd contend that no team that is in the bottom 5 in defense can continue to win at such a high pace and that the Suns will not continue to shoot the three at the ridiculously high rate of 46%+. The Sun will set.

FINtastic
11-16-2009, 11:29 PM
They lost Sessions for nothing too. Along with PHX and Sac they're one of the big surprise teams in the early season. Doesn't hurt that they were the best defensive team in the league coming into tonight.

As far as Jennings there are some teams looking real foolish right now. The Knicks are the most obvious I'll bet Nellie wouldn't mind a do over either. I get the feeling that teams dropped him on their boards because they were pissed that he skipped the Euro combine. If that's true it's the talent evaluation equivalent of letting your money get mad.

Weren't there rumors that Jennings was a major knucklehead? I know when I read about his progress from time to time over in Europe, the reports weren't always glowing. I gotta believe that's why he dropped so far, in addition to the fact that he didn't really do much at all while he was over there. At the same time, all you had to do was watch a few highlight reels of the kid to know he was ultra-talented. He definitely intrigued me more at the time than the Jordan Hills and Demar Derozans of the world. I liked Curry a lot though so I can't totally fault Nellie for picking him up even if it turns out to be the wrong choice in hindsight.

sefant77
11-17-2009, 09:05 AM
Knicks screw up huge the last 2 drafts. They missed to draft for a team they can stick James or Bosh in and its ready...

Hill ovr Jennings
Gali over Gordon or Lopez

Jennings
Gordon/Chandler
James/Chandler
Lee/James
Curry/Lee

or
Jennings
Chandler
James
Lee
Lopez

Now they have no young PG, no pure SG and a bunch of wings + Lee...

Underdog
11-17-2009, 02:52 PM
Western Conference Standings
1) Phoenix Suns
2) Dallas Mavericks

Is it 2006 again???

sefant77
11-17-2009, 03:03 PM
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2009/11/17/elliswarriors-situation-set-to-hit-full-boil-at-thursday-meeting-trade-inevitable/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+kawakami-merc+%28Talking+Points+with+Tim+Kawakami%29&utm_content=Twitter

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5287757

:D

BPo001
11-17-2009, 08:56 PM
They just signed Chris Duhon to a contract a year or 2 ago didn't they? He is only like 27 which is pretty young in my book.

Knicks screw up huge the last 2 drafts. They missed to draft for a team they can stick James or Bosh in and its ready...

Hill ovr Jennings
Gali over Gordon or Lopez

Jennings
Gordon/Chandler
James/Chandler
Lee/James
Curry/Lee

or
Jennings
Chandler
James
Lee
Lopez

Now they have no young PG, no pure SG and a bunch of wings + Lee...

CadBane
11-17-2009, 09:57 PM
Is there any way the Suns are for real? I really have a hard time taking them seriously after the past couple of years. Nash is still pretty darn good, but Amare has always been too much of a flake to be counted on seriously and his numbers this year are as low as they have been in quite some time. Richardson is good but not great. They start a center that can't rebound. Grant Hill is solid but is starting to get up there in years. I just look at their roster and can't believe that are 9-2 right now, but they haven't fallen off yet. Can someone tell me how they are doing this?

Grant Hill has been real solid this year. It's crazy because he's like 37 years old, but he hasn't played near that many games because of all those injuries he had. His rebounding has been amazing (8 a game). Nash has looked great thus far too, and they've got the lane cleared with Frye at the 5, and he's been popping threes like crazy. But, like you said, Amare isn't the same, and I don't think their defense and rebounding is good enough to get higher than the 5 seed.

LonghornDub
11-17-2009, 10:27 PM
Like always, the Suns will have trouble in the playoffs once their opponents have a significant amount of time to gameplan against their fast-break offense. It is incredibly difficult to go out there and defend that thing on 1 (or no) days of practice and gameplanning, but that all changes in the playoffs.

Xylus
11-18-2009, 03:59 PM
The Suns are winning for a number of reasons that none of you have talked about:

1) Bench production, primarily on defense. Despite being a bunch of no-names, guys like Jared Dudley, Lou Amundson, and Goran Dragic are playing great defense and are building leads rather than losing them.

2) Alvin Gentry is coaching these guys to play defense, unlike Mike 'Antoni. Amare and Nash are playing the best defense of their lives, and as a team they're holding opponents to a ridiculously low FG percentage in the 4th quarter. They're getting stops when they need them and executing on offense in the clutch.

3) Despite the size disadvantage, the Suns are outrebounding teams because of a "gang rebounding" philosophy instituted by Alvin Gentry. The reason why Frye and Amare have low rebounding averages is because they're boxing out effectively for the wings, Grant Hill and JRich. Hill and JRich have more rebounds this season than any other 2-3 combo in the league.

4) Because there are 3 or 4 players attacking the glass on every possession, the Suns are getting far fewer fastbreak points. In previous years, this would have hurt, but the Suns are also executing very well in the half-court. Amare is scoring off isos, JRich and Grant Hill can both create their own shot, and Nash can do anything he wants with the ball.

This is not the '06-'07 Suns team. The superstars are the same, but the personnel around them is much different.

CadBane
11-18-2009, 08:21 PM
Actually dude, I mentioned Hill's rebounding.

And no, Amare's defense is still deplorable.

Dirkadirkastan
11-19-2009, 04:10 AM
12 games played today, and here's the NBA.com headline: "Celtics drop short-handed Warriors"

They beat the Warriors? A short-handed team in turmoil that isn't any good anyway? At home? The NBA's love for the you-know-who trio of teams gets even more f*cking ridiculous.

GermanDunk
11-19-2009, 09:31 AM
I read the headline, too. And i was astonished, but in that moment i didn´t know why. No i know... :-)

Usually Lurkin
11-19-2009, 11:32 AM
Mavs are top story on sports.yahoo.com/nba
Great picture, too.

Windmill360
11-19-2009, 09:50 PM
Iverson might be going to knicks

NXperience
11-19-2009, 09:56 PM
Phoenix and Spurs just lost. Mavs are getting closer to the lead in the West who would have thougt that with all these injuries.

Usually Lurkin
11-19-2009, 10:45 PM
Iverson might be going to knicks

THe only way that could be more poetically fitting (in and Edgar Allen Poe sort of way) is if Isaiah Thomas was still in charge there.

LonghornDub
11-20-2009, 12:50 AM
The Suns are winning for a number of reasons that none of you have talked about:

1) Bench production, primarily on defense. Despite being a bunch of no-names, guys like Jared Dudley, Lou Amundson, and Goran Dragic are playing great defense and are building leads rather than losing them.

2) Alvin Gentry is coaching these guys to play defense, unlike Mike 'Antoni. Amare and Nash are playing the best defense of their lives, and as a team they're holding opponents to a ridiculously low FG percentage in the 4th quarter. They're getting stops when they need them and executing on offense in the clutch.

3) Despite the size disadvantage, the Suns are outrebounding teams because of a "gang rebounding" philosophy instituted by Alvin Gentry. The reason why Frye and Amare have low rebounding averages is because they're boxing out effectively for the wings, Grant Hill and JRich. Hill and JRich have more rebounds this season than any other 2-3 combo in the league.

4) Because there are 3 or 4 players attacking the glass on every possession, the Suns are getting far fewer fastbreak points. In previous years, this would have hurt, but the Suns are also executing very well in the half-court. Amare is scoring off isos, JRich and Grant Hill can both create their own shot, and Nash can do anything he wants with the ball.

This is not the '06-'07 Suns team. The superstars are the same, but the personnel around them is much different.

You can tell yourself it's not the 06-07 team all you want, but that team scored well in the half court also. As long as the Suns are playing in this offensive system and with these personnel, they are not going to be able to beat quality defensive teams (or teams with good centers--i.e., the Lakers) in the playoffs. They could get to the conference finals if they're lucky, but it stops there.

chumdawg
11-20-2009, 01:18 AM
You can tell yourself it's not the 06-07 team all you want, but that team scored well in the half court also. As long as the Suns are playing in this offensive system and with these personnel, they are not going to be able to beat quality defensive teams (or teams with good centers--i.e., the Lakers) in the playoffs. They could get to the conference finals if they're lucky, but it stops there.Any team that is good enough to get to the conference finals has a good chance to advance past the conference finals.

dirno2000
11-20-2009, 01:27 AM
Phoenix and Spurs just lost. Mavs are getting closer to the lead in the West who would have thougt that with all these injuries.

During the Lakers game the play by play guy mentioned that the Suns have lost 15 straight games on TNT. Hard to believe.

LonghornDub
11-20-2009, 01:44 AM
Any team that is good enough to get to the conference finals has a good chance to advance past the conference finals.

Unless we're defining "good chance" as something above maybe 20%, I couldn't disagree more. As you well know, the NBA is all about matchups, and the Suns match up very, very poorly against their most likely conference finals opponent.

chumdawg
11-20-2009, 03:04 AM
If they had at least a 20% chance yet, I wouldn't be real comfortable saying conclusively that their luck "stops there."

sefant77
11-20-2009, 05:22 AM
Phoenix and Spurs just lost. Mavs are getting closer to the lead in the West who would have thougt that with all these injuries.

We would be #1 without that stupid freethrows...

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
11-20-2009, 11:20 AM
I can't wait til we're full strength and balling all over everybodys punk Azzesessseszzzes!!!!1111

EricaLubarsky
11-21-2009, 11:58 AM
There arent many teams that scare me in the West if we played them in a 7-game series. Any team in the league can beat any other on any given night (even the Nets will have a few in the win column by the end of the season), but I am not scared at all of the Suns. They are raining threes at a ridiculous rate while otherwise playing ball at a sub-playoff level. At some point the Suns will stop hitting threes at a 46.2% clip and will become a perfectly mediocre team. They may be averaging 111ppg, but they are allowing opponents to score 107ppg on them so if they face some defensive opposition or just have an offnight shooting, they can easily be toppled.

Spurs are always dangerous and we will need to address some defensive issues when Parker returns. Lakers are the only truly scary team in the West as far as Im concerned though. When they are healthy they are a deadly combo of inside and out. Nugs haven't shown anything this year that scares me and if anything it looks like they took a step back.

I think Portland may be legit. What they dont have is veteran wisdom, but every statistic so far (in the first sixth of the season) has shown them to be a solid defensive team that can win despite having a league-average offense. #1 FG defense, #5 3 point defense, #2 in rebounding differential, #6 in bpg. If they improve their offensive efficiency they may a concern but right now their lack of experience and average offense make me doubt they will make too large a splash in the playoffs even if they are defeinitely headed toward a berth.

jthig32
11-21-2009, 02:06 PM
Two random former-Mavs observations:

Brandon Bass looks to be the 11th man on the Orlando Magic. He got a DNP-CD last night and his minutes have plummeted since Lewis came back. He probably wants a do-over on that contract right about now.

Segana Diop has played five minutes all season. Five minutes. His only statistical contribution for the season is two turnovers. He's very clearly the 12th man on the roster, behind some 21 year old backup center that I've never heard of.

That is easily the worst contract in the NBA, right? I don't know what's more mind boggling: the fact the we gave him that contract or that Charlotte traded for it after seeing a third of a season of him last year. With the current team playing so well, I'm going to focus on the fact that Donnie found a way to offload that horrendous contract, and try to forget the fact that he drew it up.

fluid.forty.one
11-21-2009, 02:21 PM
blazers lol

dirno2000
11-21-2009, 02:43 PM
Two random former-Mavs observations:

Brandon Bass looks to be the 11th man on the Orlando Magic. He got a DNP-CD last night and his minutes have plummeted since Lewis came back. He probably wants a do-over on that contract right about now.

Segana Diop has played five minutes all season. Five minutes. His only statistical contribution for the season is two turnovers. He's very clearly the 12th man on the roster, behind some 21 year old backup center that I've never heard of.

That is easily the worst contract in the NBA, right? I don't know what's more mind boggling: the fact the we gave him that contract or that Charlotte traded for it after seeing a third of a season of him last year. With the current team playing so well, I'm going to focus on the fact that Donnie found a way to offload that horrendous contract, and try to forget the fact that he drew it up.

From what I recall nobody else was knocking down Bass' door to give him $4MM? I think we offered him less but I'm not sure how much he'd be playing on a healthy Mavericks team either. A player like Bass has to take the money when it's there.

It is good to see Orlando get such a small return on the the $10MM they're spending on Bass and Gortat. Speaking of which, his PER is down from 17.04 last year to 11.86. Not saying that's what we would have gotten out of him because there's at least a chance that he'd perform better with more consistent minutes. For whatever reason he's not performing like a $6MM player for them.

I didn't think Diop's contract was that bad when we signed him. Not that I thought he was worth the full MLE but you normally have to overpay by a million or two to lure another teams FA. But since he signed that deal he's played like a vet min. guy. If it's not the worst contract in the league it's in the discussion.

dude1394
11-22-2009, 01:40 PM
I still like this kid...he really speaks his mind.

BABY BULLS Chicago's Joakim Noah, after the Bulls' loss to the Lakers:

"It felt like a varsity team compared to a JV team. I was tired as hell, and I was looking around on the court and nobody from the Lakers even broke a sweat."

bernardos70
11-23-2009, 12:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X-Y7wFRoEU&feature=player_embedded

That's ridiculous.

Dirkadirkastan
11-23-2009, 01:37 AM
Psh, Will Ferrell can hit that shot too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c3Bm3S-0hg

mavErika
11-25-2009, 07:30 PM
D-Wade missed a one-handed dunk in the first quarter of tonight's game and instead of positioning for a rebound, as the ball flew directly to a teammate in the corner who launched a three, he just turned and walked away slowly, mumbling sth about a push-off that probably never happened, without even looking how that play develops. He got lucky that his teammate hit the three. Nonetheless, he is such a sissy!

Jon Avalon
11-26-2009, 03:25 AM
wtf vanilla ice (J.Williams) playing like hes AI last night? didn't think he still had game or at least have the fire to be hot like that.

sefant77
11-26-2009, 07:13 PM
Wade does the Marbury:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/3-is-onnnnnnn

LonghornDub
11-27-2009, 09:35 PM
Clyde Drexler doing his usual homer thing on the Rockets-Spurs broadcast. He's blabbering about how Kyle Lowry has "shut down" Tony Parker, approximately 3 possessions after Parker had scored easily on 3 straight possessions in the 4th.

badfish22
11-27-2009, 09:46 PM
Paul Pierce is such a little bitch. He goes up for the dunk, knees Bosh in the nuts, then has the nerve to look down on him. Him and Garnett are the biggest douches in bball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGuWgCps4Kw

LonghornDub
11-27-2009, 09:55 PM
Spurs on the verge of an epic fold.

LonghornDub
11-27-2009, 10:02 PM
Nope, they'll win. For their first road win of the season. Good one.

Dirkadirkastan
11-27-2009, 10:12 PM
Paul Pierce is such a little bitch. He goes up for the dunk, knees Bosh in the nuts, then has the nerve to look down on him. Him and Garnett are the biggest douches in bball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGuWgCps4Kw

Their alternate jerseys have black text instead of white text. Wow, that's creative.

sefant77
11-27-2009, 10:32 PM
Paul Pierce is such a little bitch. He goes up for the dunk, knees Bosh in the nuts, then has the nerve to look down on him. Him and Garnett are the biggest douches in bball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGuWgCps4Kw

Heinsohn is a blind asshole too, how he is laughing in the replay even he saw Bosh is hurt. Remember anyone this (0:40): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjU3nvru9wA

fluid.forty.one
11-27-2009, 10:55 PM
come on, memphis!

sefant77
11-27-2009, 10:58 PM
Nets will lose to the Kings and fall 0-16. Then they play the Lakers and after that they play us for a historical 0-18. Why i see us losing that game?

badfish22
11-27-2009, 10:59 PM
come on, memphis!

the game was 42-17 at one point lol

if the Grizz choke this away...

fluid.forty.one
11-27-2009, 11:57 PM
blazers lol

EricaLubarsky
11-27-2009, 11:57 PM
Bass now with 4 consecutive DNP- Coach's decision
Gortat averaging only 17mpg

Those two combine for 20mill in salary/tax, btw

sefant77
11-28-2009, 01:18 AM
If it needs a new guy like A. Wright to step up, u know your team is trash:

Or he was too used with Dallas. Anyway great to see that there are tons of problem on Toronto. Bosh should be dying to play for a great veteran team.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/article/731944--feschuk-raptors-criticized-within-for-pre-game-attitude


Wright, in the lead-up to the Raptors first meeting with the Celtics this season, criticized unnamed teammates for their lack of focus in preparing for games. And he said he appealed to team captain Chris Bosh to deliver the message.

Wright said he told Bosh, "'Hey, you've got guys in here eating popcorn, joking around before the game. And we go out there and lose by 40. It's a direct result of what's going on before the game. Guys not coming in with the right mind frame."

Wright, the 25-year-old in his fifth NBA season, was speaking of Toronto's 35-point loss in Charlotte on Wednesday, and his words appeared to resonate in some corners of the locker room.

"Good comment," said forward Amir Johnson, 22, of Wright's assessment.

Said Sonny Weems, 23: "We do fool around a lot. And it tends to carry over into the game, and that's something that needs to change."

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
11-28-2009, 01:44 AM
The more I think about it why can't Bosh come in here and be our Pau Gasol and win us a ring?

badfish22
11-28-2009, 01:58 AM
Wow, Wright impressed me with those comments. Props.

Going from a hard working and serious organization like the Mavs to an underachieving one like the Raptors probably made him say something. Someone has to stand up and get those losers attention. They got a lot of talent.

sefant77
11-28-2009, 02:11 AM
Wow, Wright impressed me with those comments. Props.

Going from a hard working and serious organization like the Mavs to an underachieving one like the Raptors probably made him say something. Someone has to stand up and get those losers attention. They got a lot of talent.

They got talent but the mix-up of it just sucks.

Bosh, Bargnani, Hedo, Calderon, thats complete sucking defense. Their inside defense sucks with Bosh and Bargnani, they stink at the perimter with Calderon...

With that roster they dont go anywhere. And they have a locker room issue. I read in a Raptors forum that allready JO and Marion told such things too.

badfish22
11-28-2009, 02:34 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/10440372/Sixers-appear-ready-to-bring-back-Iverson

I would loooove this.

Seeing Iverson back in a Sixer jersey would be awesome.

Dirkadirkastan
11-28-2009, 02:39 AM
Seeing Iverson in a jersey would make me want to kick whatever screen I saw him on.

quietsavant
11-28-2009, 06:57 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/10440372/Sixers-appear-ready-to-bring-back-Iverson

I would loooove this.

Seeing Iverson back in a Sixer jersey would be awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNcY-xn65rU

awesome vid of his return to philly

sefant77
11-28-2009, 09:54 AM
Louis Williams is out long and a team that give Willie Green minutes can give it to Iverson too :D

CadBane
11-28-2009, 10:29 AM
The Grizzlies have been playing really well lately.

RareMilk
11-28-2009, 12:17 PM
Wanted to see how the Cavs did against the Cats to see how they would respond against us and man...I don't understand why the Bobcats AREN'T doing that great. You have three guys who are interchangeable with defensive and offensive priorities. I wish Gerald Wallace was on the Mavs

sefant77
11-28-2009, 12:44 PM
Their pg sucks ass and too less scoring

CadBane
11-28-2009, 03:48 PM
Wanted to see how the Cavs did against the Cats to see how they would respond against us and man...I don't understand why the Bobcats AREN'T doing that great. You have three guys who are interchangeable with defensive and offensive priorities. I wish Gerald Wallace was on the Mavs

They are 6-2 at home. Just losing on the road. That's usually a sign on a team on the upswing of things.

fluid.forty.one
11-29-2009, 02:31 AM
at least the blazers lost

DevinHarriswillstart
11-29-2009, 02:50 AM
Diop has played 10 minutes the whole season. Kinda sad really...

GermanDunk
11-29-2009, 04:22 PM
We could settle an O/U NJN/LAL - i need vCash

mavErika
11-29-2009, 09:21 PM
Coming into today Nuggets are on a 4 game win streak, but none of their opponents has a winning record, their last three opponents have a combined record of 4-44.

Right now they are in trouble at home against the timberwolves, who still have the lead behind a second half rally, overcoming an early deficite. The NUggets defense looks just horrible, other than the occasional Nene block. Two days ago they barely beat the knicks at home.

sefant77
11-29-2009, 09:41 PM
Lakers Nets 59-34 halftime

Next game we have so much to lose...

Bass&Gortat: 9min, 2 boards, 1 foul, 0 points...

mavErika
11-29-2009, 10:13 PM
T-wolves won 106-100 and snapped their 15-game losing streak. C.Billups (2-13) jinxed himself before the game (http://http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/63080/20091129/billups_explains_lack_of_aggressiveness/).
Jawai couldn't score, but grabbed 7 rebounds in 13 minutes, Hollins had no noteworthy contributions which show up in the box score and a few careless turnovers, but seemed to do fine on defense(at least in the second half, don't know about he first).

It's also fun to look at the grizzlies-clippers play-by-play. Clippers were down 59-79 with two minutes to go in Q3, and outscored the Grizzlies 39-9 over the rest of the game. After a Rudy Gay-jumper on the first posession of the fourth quarter, the Clippers won the rest of the quarter 33-5, closing with a 22-0 run over the last 5:20min. Unbelievable if we wouldn't have witnessed a similiar run from the Mavs against the Rockets. But still, it's the Clippers! That must be their best fourth-quarter performance ever! I'm curious what Bill Simmons has to say about Dunleavy's 600th regular season win, I found his reports from Clippers Q4-meltdowns were some of his funniest columns.

EricaLubarsky
11-29-2009, 10:15 PM
Bass&Gortat: 9min, 2 boards, 1 foul, 0 points...
and that contribution only cost em 20million this year.

mavErika
11-29-2009, 10:22 PM
Lakers Nets 59-34 halftime

Next game we have so much to lose...


First we play Philly on Monday, but yeah, Nets already embarrassed us last season, it sure would be fitting if they do it again for their first win of the season...

twistaeffect2004
11-29-2009, 11:24 PM
Law of averages would suggest they have to win eventually.. I just hope that first win comes after Wednesday. Being that first team to lose to an 0-17 team would suck.

chumdawg
11-29-2009, 11:29 PM
Law of averages would suggest they have to win eventually.. I just hope that first win comes after Wednesday. Being that first team to lose to an 0-17 team would suck.Since the record is 17 (and not 18), it's been done before, right?

EDIT: Ahhh, unless you mean this year. In that case, I gagree.

Kidd Karma
11-30-2009, 07:04 PM
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/18638690

Bass on the trade block?

EricaLubarsky
11-30-2009, 07:46 PM
I'd trade Carroll for Bass. Not a good place for him for PT, but he's a good guy. Just sayin.

I do hope Otis chokes on Bass/Gortat's 20 million in salary and taxes though

CadBane
11-30-2009, 10:38 PM
Utah playing really well all of a sudden. Won 6 of their last 7.

dirno2000
12-01-2009, 10:28 AM
Looks like Roy is dealing with some of the same issues Arenas is dealing with as far as what his role should be:

The Blazers offense has been struggling, so coach Nate McMillan had a meeting with Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge and Greg Oden Monday. The Blazers have changed from a pick-and-roll offense dominated by Roy and Aldridge to one where they're feeding the ball to Oden in the post.

Roy told The Oregonian that the Blazers need to "establish a pecking order offensively." Roy began the season stressing to his teammates the importance of sacrificing, but he says he feels like he is sacrificing the most.

"How do I sacrifice and still be me?" Roy asked Monday. "That's what I'm trying to find out. I'm trying to sacrifice and I'm trying ... but I'm feeling ... Arrrrrgh! I don't think it works. Not because of the scoring, it just doesn't seem right."

"There's a lot of plays where I just stand in the corner. And I can see the whole play just happening," Roy told The Columbian. "Not that I feel lost. I just feel like I'm not really in rhythm; I'm not fully involved."

fluid.forty.one
12-01-2009, 06:02 PM
Looks like Roy is dealing with some of the same issues Arenas is dealing with as far as what his role should be:

love it

EricaLubarsky
12-01-2009, 08:28 PM
Shadenfreude= watching the Suns get their butts handed to them by Dan'n'tony's awful Knickerbockers.

fluid.forty.one
12-01-2009, 09:21 PM
go dwhistle

CadBane
12-01-2009, 09:55 PM
Shadenfreude= watching the Suns get their butts handed to them by Dan'n'tony's awful Knickerbockers.


It's Schadenfreude.

Windmill360
12-01-2009, 11:31 PM
Lakers have only played 4 games on the road.

dirno2000
12-02-2009, 10:17 AM
Yea they owe the road 9 games. That's the only consolation to the fact that they've destroyed just about everyone they've played since Pao got back.

dirt_dobber
12-02-2009, 12:21 PM
Artest says.....I used to drink Hennessy ... at halftime,"

Artest admits drinking, blasts ref
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4706474

Ron Artest, the often-controversial Los Angeles Lakers forward, told a magazine interviewer he used to drink alcohol at halftime of NBA games.

"I used to drink Hennessy ... at halftime," Artest said in an interview with The Sporting News, which is publishing the story in its Dec. 7 issue. "I [kept it] in my locker. I'd just walk to the liquor store and get it."

Hennessy is a French cognac.

Artest said he drank whhen he played for the Chicago Bulls, where he played for his first three seasons (1999-2002). He has since played for Indiana, Sacramento, Houston and the Lakers.

He was a member of the Pacers when he was involved in a fight in Detroit that spilled over into the stands. He was suspended for the rest of the 2004-05 season, which turned out to be 73 games. Artest told the Sporting News that the brawl "wasn't my fault. ... I don't see anything I could have done different."

Artest told the Sporting News that he has tamed his admittedly wild lifestyle, but still likes to "party and I have fun."

"When I was a 19-year-old father, whew. I was a single pimp! I was wild," he told the magazine. "A lot of marijuana and alcohol -- even before [that age]. ... I [still] party and I have fun, but not like I used to. I used to drink every night and party every night."

He also criticized NBA referee Joey Crawford, who was on the floor for two games of the 2009 NBA Western Conference semifinals. In Game 2, Artest was ejected after an altercation with Kobe Bryant. In Game 7, Crawford also officiated, and the Lakers won 89-70 to close out the series.

"Joey Crawford basically said, 'Who cares about the Houston Rockets? Kobe Bryant is on the floor,' " Artest said, according to the Sporting News.

fluid.forty.one
12-02-2009, 01:43 PM
Artest is definitely not going to be a distraction.

GermanDunk
12-02-2009, 09:04 PM
2 Points for Chris Bosh. Not his night, eh ?

mavErika
12-02-2009, 09:48 PM
2 Points for Chris Bosh. Not his night, eh ?

that game's boxscore line from Bosh sure reads like a "good bye" to Toronto.

EricaLubarsky
12-02-2009, 10:24 PM
If only Douglas-Roberts and Bosh suddenly demanded trades to Dallas while Stern suddenly allowed an exception to the CBA large enough to get them both here.

Kidd Karma
12-03-2009, 12:05 AM
that game's boxscore line from Bosh sure reads like a "good bye" to Toronto.

Hopefully sooner than later to Dallas. So we send Damp up there with a couple picks or take on a bad contract.

Nash13
12-03-2009, 12:34 AM
Not trying to sound selfish, but if Toronto doesn't trade Bosh before the deadline, they're stupid. There's no way a player of his caliber would willingly go back to that team.

CadBane
12-03-2009, 01:48 AM
I don't understand why'd you even want to drink alcohol when you are sweaty and dehydrated.

Kidd Karma
12-03-2009, 06:30 AM
Not trying to sound selfish, but if Toronto doesn't trade Bosh before the deadline, they're stupid. There's no way a player of his caliber would willingly go back to that team.

With Bryan Colangelo running the show, Toronto is not stupid, he will be dealt if things with him falters.

Windmill360
12-03-2009, 01:39 PM
wonder why Artest still hasn't been fined.

Nowitzki4President
12-03-2009, 04:42 PM
wonder why Artest still hasn't been fined.

Plays for LA.

He should have already been fined for his horrendous haircut.

GermanDunk
12-03-2009, 06:47 PM
Celtics are gonna drill them Spurs a second asshole.

Believe me !

Nowitzki4President
12-03-2009, 06:51 PM
Celtics are gonna drill them Spurs a second asshole.

Believe me !

We've already done that. The Celtics can give them their 3rd...

mary
12-03-2009, 07:01 PM
Lakers have only played 4 games on the road.


The Spurs have only played 5...and they are 1-4 on the road.

I wonder if there is any statistical benefit to backloading your road games (I realize neither team has a say in the matter..)

CadBane
12-03-2009, 08:11 PM
Perkins has "punked" Duncan twice tonight thus far. He flat out LAYED Duncan out on a pick, then later elbowed him in the face. Both times TD didn't do a damn thing.

Make no mistake, Duncan is NOT soft. But if that were Dirk, people would be gushing how "soft" he is for letting Perkins do that. Double standards.

And man I hate that Boston team. Every one of them.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
12-03-2009, 09:58 PM
With Bryan Colangelo running the show, Toronto is not stupid, he will be dealt if things with him falters.

What would it take for us to get him? Dust chip+ what? Gooden? but that's both of our "centers". Gooden/Damp/JJB? lol.

chumdawg
12-03-2009, 10:13 PM
Mavs and Sacto 2002 is on NBATV Greatest Games right now. That was a hell of a battle!

Nash13
12-04-2009, 01:54 AM
With Bryan Colangelo running the show, Toronto is not stupid, he will be dealt if things with him falters.

I don't know anymore. I never thought he was that great. I mean, he overpaid to get Nash, and lucked into the 04-08 Suns. No one honestly thought that smallball would work. Then he goes to Toronto and picks against LaMarcus Aldridge in the draft. Toronto, even though they were good for awhile, was never a real contender. And besides Bosh and Calderon, none of their players have real good trade value. I think they'd be better off trading Bosh anyways. They'd save some serious cap, and would probably get the 1st round pick again.

chumdawg
12-04-2009, 03:40 AM
I don't know anymore. I never thought he was that great. I mean, he overpaid to get Nash...Holy shit! Are you serious?

Jon Avalon
12-04-2009, 08:19 AM
Nice lil power dunk by Pops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhhzFVVQF0k

Mavs and Sacto 2002 is on NBATV Greatest Games right now. That was a hell of a battle!

Darn, missed it.

RareMilk
12-04-2009, 05:07 PM
I see all these highlight plays and a couple teams (Atlanta, Houston, Cleveland, Orlando, Golden State) have been rocking their throw backs...when was the last time Dallas put on their old jerseys? (Not the silver ones)

LonghornDub
12-04-2009, 09:24 PM
You know, I'm watching the Nets (hopefully about to get their first win) and I realized that Marv Albert didn't call the Mavs-Nets game on YES the other night, for some reason. I knew he was their announcer, but I didn't think about it. He's back tonight announcing their game.

monty55555
12-05-2009, 12:22 AM
Great game between the Lakers and the Heat. This is one of those RARE times that I will be cheering for Wade and the Heat. They better not lose.

Edit: Of course, they lose. Damn.

FINtastic
12-05-2009, 12:31 AM
Okay, so that shot Kobe just hit was absolutely nuts.

CadBane
12-05-2009, 12:39 AM
Okay, so that shot Kobe just hit was absolutely nuts.

Absolutely lucky. Kobe even said it was.

Wade missed the FT before it. But I guess he's not a choker (I know he had a huge 4th...but if that's Dirk) :rolleyes:

FINtastic
12-05-2009, 12:44 AM
Absolutely lucky. Kobe even said it was.

Wade missed the FT before it. But I guess he's not a choker (I know he had a huge 4th...but if that's Dirk) :rolleyes:

I don't care if it was a little bit lucky, it was still a ridiculous shot.

CadBane
12-05-2009, 12:53 AM
I don't care if it was a little bit lucky, it was still a ridiculous shot.

Yeah, it was ridiculous...

aquaadverse
12-05-2009, 07:56 AM
I don't care if it was a little bit lucky, it was still a ridiculous shot.

Yeah, I saw it and started cursing, but it was one of those inhuman skill things that's a ball breaker but you can't get too pissed since it wasn't a defensive lapse.