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mavsfan4lyfe201
07-16-2010, 09:20 AM
i havent posted on here in a while...but i have been all over the mavs news and summer games..

and this guy is impressive.. so impressive that it hurts to know the mavs FO wont sign him... due to all our tiny gaurds..


it just reminds me of how tired i am of all our or tiny shooting gaurds.

between terry barea and roddy we dont need them all, and it forced us to play butler at the 2, and howard at the 2 before him.

their all good players, but what team has all these small gaurds? its just not gonna win you a ring.

anyway, im on board with Lin, and id love to see terry and barea both take a walk, they cant D up anyone and its gotten old. sure Lin doesnt have any NBA experience, but when these asian players come along, once every 5 years, they are solid and they have a high IQ...and this guy attacks.. doesnt just settle to shoot it like the 2 midgets named above.

this guy is gonna get a shot somewhere, and were gonna regret not givin him a chance cause hes in our summer league....

thoughts everyone?

Rick41
07-16-2010, 09:31 AM
between terry barea and roddy we dont need them all


Irrelevant.

rabbitproof
07-16-2010, 10:05 AM
By Jeremy Lin, do you mean JJB bullet?

bobbyfg7
07-16-2010, 10:08 AM
...but when these asian players come along, once every 5 years, they are solid and they have a high IQ...

thoughts everyone?

Lin grew up in California. What does being of asian decent have to do with it? Stereotype much? Although, he did go to Harvard so maybe that's where you're getting this "high IQ" thing from.

But I've heard he's an energetic player that really leaves it all on the court. Terry doesn't really run the point anymore so I'm not sure why you group him in this. To suggest he take minutes from Roddy is laughable. And Barea is serviceable and has chemistry with the other Mavs.

Let Lin take a stint in the D-League. Then let's see where he's at. Barea will be an unrestricted free agent by then so you may get your wish.

SMC0007
07-16-2010, 10:18 AM
Lin grew up in California. What does being of asian decent have to do with it? Stereotype much? Although, he did go to Harvard so maybe that's where you're getting this "high IQ" thing from.

But I've heard he's an energetic player that really leaves it all on the court. Terry doesn't really run the point anymore so I'm not sure why you group him in this. To suggest he take minutes from Roddy is laughable. And Barea is serviceable and has chemistry with the other Mavs.

Let Lin take a stint in the D-League. Then let's see where he's at. Barea will be an unrestricted free agent by then so you may get your wish.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but, Why would you comment if all you have is what you've heard?

mavsfan4lyfe201
07-16-2010, 10:19 AM
i was pin pointing terry and barea as guys that need to go. why do we need 3 small gaurds?

roddy is clearly the future and hes the keeper.

im not sayin Lin is the answer, but to let him slip away will be a bad choice.

hopefully barea and/or terry are gone by the deadline or this summer. terry has a 5 mil buyout for the last year of his contract.

bobbyfg7
07-16-2010, 10:33 AM
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but, Why would you comment if all you have is what you've heard?

Why would you comment if all you have is snide interjections?

But you're right; that was a horribly put together paragraph. If I had something to add to the conversation, that's where I should have put it.

I haven't personally seen Lin in action. So all I can comment is what I've heard/read.

bobbyfg7
07-16-2010, 10:38 AM
i was pin pointing terry and barea as guys that need to go. why do we need 3 small gaurds?

roddy is clearly the future and hes the keeper.

im not sayin Lin is the answer, but to let him slip away will be a bad choice.

hopefully barea and/or terry are gone by the deadline or this summer. terry has a 5 mil buyout for the last year of his contract.

Indeed. Size does matter in the NBA. But I think the Mavs can retain his rights through a D-League stint and then go from there.

I also think this conversation is already goin on here (http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=36482).

SMC0007
07-16-2010, 10:43 AM
Why would you comment if all you have is snide interjections?

But that was a horribly put together paragraph. I haven't personally seen Lin in action. So all I can comment is what I've heard/read.

I was just asking no biggie. It seemed like you were scoffing at the idea of Lin being anything but a scrub without actually seeing any games. Seems like it would be helpful in making a judgement if you actually have first hand info on something.

mavsfan4lyfe201
07-16-2010, 10:44 AM
Indeed. Size does matter in the NBA. But I think the Mavs can retain his rights through a D-League stint and then go from there.

i really hope so.... im not sayin hes gonna be a stopper or instant offense. but you see the potential..

but because of our load of undersized SG's were not gonna keep him it looks like.

when its time to face LA we gotta put butler or marion on kobe. cause who else can even stand a chance of gaurding him?

the deadline better bring us that SG...

EricaLubarsky
07-16-2010, 12:04 PM
How hard is it to use the right "there"?

Kidd Karma
07-16-2010, 12:24 PM
Indeed. Size does matter in the NBA. But I think the Mavs can retain his rights through a D-League stint and then go from there.

I also think this conversation is already goin on here (http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=36482).

He would have to be part of the 15 man roster for the Mavs to retain his rights. If they had drafted him, they actually could have asked if he wanted to play in europe while he got stronger and still retained his rights, but as a FA rookie, he would need to sign a Mavs contract that he can be outrighted to the D-League team.

DirkFTW
07-16-2010, 01:18 PM
How hard is it to use the right "there"?

vary

blankie123
07-16-2010, 03:34 PM
watch the games before commenting on a player. i don't understand how someone can say "I've heard he's an energetic player..". then say, "Let Lin take a stint in the D-League. Then let's see where he's at." part of the reason they have SL is for teams to evaluate how these guys play. not just looking at the books

here is the game vs. the Wizards
http://espn.go.com/espn3/player?id=32112&league=NBA&size=condensed

LonghornDub
07-16-2010, 03:57 PM
Video and writeup from the Washington Post about Lin punking John Wall:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/07/john_wall_vs_jeremy_lin.html

bobatundi
07-16-2010, 04:14 PM
How hard is it to use the right "there"?

to hard four half the people on this bored.

blankie123
07-16-2010, 04:36 PM
how hard it to understand from context when they meant to say they're and not there or their?

CadBane
07-16-2010, 04:40 PM
How hard is it to use the right "there"?

Your right they're my friend.

EricaLubarsky
07-16-2010, 05:11 PM
how hard it to understand from context when they meant to say they're and not there or their?

funny

Underdog
07-16-2010, 05:13 PM
how hard it to understand from context when they meant to say they're and not there or their?

Given the context, how hard is it to get the words right in the first place?


:rolleyes:

Dirkadirkastan
07-16-2010, 05:15 PM
I don't mind the grammar mistakes. They make it easier to figure out who the idiots are.

LonghornDub
07-16-2010, 05:20 PM
Your right they're my friend.

I believe you mean: your write they're my freind.

FINtastic
07-16-2010, 05:22 PM
Yu peeple and yur konsern fore speling mak me laff

Lor20
07-16-2010, 06:29 PM
i have to say lin impressed me vs the wizards. He was getting the better of wall on both ends of the floor more often than not and had a very mature game. im not sure if he is physically ready for the NBA though. he is quick but lacks strength and I am not sure about his jump shot. his penetration may not work vs bigger nba players.
Also... he is a true PG, not SG so i dont quite get the sg discussion here...

iella
07-16-2010, 07:06 PM
Really good listen: Jeremy Lin on Galloway & Company (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4670242/jeremy-lin-on-galloway-company)

ShaggyDirk
07-16-2010, 07:23 PM
"I WANT SOME BUTTS!"

oops wrong thread their. i meant to place there quotes in another thread.

xrobx
07-16-2010, 10:21 PM
i'm sold on lin, he's freaking awesome. give him barea's job asap.

LonghornDub
07-17-2010, 01:02 PM
Would Lin be the first ever American-born Asian to play in the NBA?

sike
07-17-2010, 01:11 PM
Would Lin be the first ever American-born Asian to play in the NBA?

Why you gotta bring race into this??

I just wanna talk about him as the potential biggest geek in the league as a Harvard dork.

LonghornDub
07-17-2010, 01:13 PM
Why you gotta bring race into this??

I just wanna talk about him as the potential biggest geek in the league as a Harvard dork.

I know, I'm such a damn racist. You should've banned me already.

Biggest geek in the league I think is pretty much a given. I don't know of any other Ivy Leaguers floating around.

sike
07-17-2010, 01:15 PM
You should've banned me already.
Truer words...

rabbitproof
07-17-2010, 02:16 PM
I like how Donnie was all over him. Donnie's not just into the Euro circuit but just finds talent where ever talent sits.

Hope he doesn't end up signing with someone else.

ty
07-18-2010, 12:17 AM
Would Lin be the first ever American-born Asian to play in the NBA?

Apparently not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wataru_Misaka

Not only was the first player in the NBA of Asian descent, but he was the first non-white player in the NBA as well.

http://www.nbaloud.com/userimages/user1195_1151319379.jpghttp://www.interbasket.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/wataru-misaka.jpghttp://shotnottaken.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/watmisaka.jpg

Usually Lurkin
07-18-2010, 10:20 AM
Apparently not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wataru_Misaka

he would apparantly be the first since players quit playing in their skivvies

LonghornDub
07-18-2010, 11:59 AM
Apparently not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wataru_Misaka

Not only was the first player in the NBA of Asian descent, but he was the first non-white player in the NBA as well.


Wow, nice find. Looks like he's still alive too, and almost 90.

DirkFTW
07-18-2010, 01:44 PM
...he was selected by the New York Knicks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wataru_Misaka)...

First Asian-American in the NBA, not the D-League...

FINtastic
07-18-2010, 01:49 PM
Apparently not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wataru_Misaka

Not only was the first player in the NBA of Asian descent, but he was the first non-white player in the NBA as well.

http://www.nbaloud.com/userimages/user1195_1151319379.jpghttp://www.interbasket.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/wataru-misaka.jpghttp://shotnottaken.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/watmisaka.jpg

Is it just me, or do players in these super-old basketball pictures always look like they are holding ball awkwardly? I never feel like they are in the middle of a real basketball move.

But anyways, good find!

jleefilled
07-18-2010, 01:56 PM
Nevermind...wow, the guy was actually born in Utah!

Rick41
07-18-2010, 03:22 PM
Wow, nice find. Looks like he's still alive too, and almost 90.

Should the Mavs bring in him for a workout to attempt a comeback?

Jack.Kerr
07-18-2010, 04:28 PM
Nevermind...wow, the guy was actually born in Utah!

So that's where John Stockton's shorts came from.

mavsfan4lyfe201
07-18-2010, 10:20 PM
well i read the other day that several teams are seriously interested in Lin..one of them being the lakers.

the champs...one of the smartest team and front offices in the league...wants Lin.

id trade barea for this guy in a heartbeat. im sick of us being a strict jumpshooting team, it doesnt win you playoff games.

hell likely be playin somewhere else this season..in the nba

tsar
07-19-2010, 08:41 AM
I hope we keep him.

SMC0007
07-19-2010, 09:23 AM
Seems like a no brainer.

dirt_dobber
07-19-2010, 09:24 AM
Mavericks' Jeremy Lin: 'I would love to stay in Dallas'
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/071910dnspomavslinchat2.153adb730.html
02:20 AM CDT on Monday, July 19, 2010
SportsDayDFW.com

Jeremy Lin, a point guard for the Mavericks during their Summer League, spoke on KESN-FM on Thursday to discuss his experience so far playing in the summer league. Here are some highlights:

What was it about the Mavericks organization that made you want to try to make the NBA as an undrafted free agent here?

The biggest reason why I was drawn to the Mavs is because of Donnie Nelson. He sent me down at Fort Smith and we had dinner. He talked about how he liked my game and he thought I was a year or so away from the NBA and he wanted to recruit me for his D-league team.

Donnie's really taken care of me. He invited me to play for the summer league team. Even before the draft had ended, he called me and said, “I really want you to play for us.” That was an opportunity I couldn't pass up with how well he's been treating me and how he pursued me to play for the team. When I got to Dallas, he took care of me there. I'm glad I was able to get this opportunity.

It’s a bit early but do you think you've done enough at the very least to earn an invitation to training camp?

I think I've done enough. Actually, my agent's been talking to different teams and some teams have actually offered. That's what we're looking at right now. There's one game left so I have to stay focused.

But I think I was able to show what I was able to do and I impressed some of the GMs, so I think that's been good for me.

Is Dallas showing interest in keeping you?

I can't really say the names of the teams – orders from my agent. I appreciate everything that Dallas has done for me. I definitely enjoy that. I would love to stay in Dallas, but I can't go into details on what their interest level is.

Your playing style is very similar to another undrafted free agent that played in the Boston area: J.J. Barea. Were you familiar at all with him when you were at Harvard? Any comparison there at all?

Being at Harvard and playing Northeastern, you hear his name a lot. I never got to play against him, but I've heard a lot about him and I've seen him on TV playing for the Mavs. I don't think I'm ready to compare myself to him.

He's proven himself in the league. In terms of us not being freak athletes and playing hard, that's a similarity. But I don't think I can compare my game to his. I haven't done enough.

What have you learned about yourself while playing in the Mavericks Summer League and do you believe you can make it in the NBA?

Yea. I mean, this experience has been humbling and I've learned a lot. I think the biggest thing is I've realized I can play at this level and I can get to the rim at this level and I can still do a lot of things that I always did in college at this level and I think that's been the biggest thing for me just gaining that confidence. Obviously, there's certain adjustments that I need to make and that'll take time but the biggest thing I've learned is that I can play at this next level.

SMC0007
07-19-2010, 10:11 AM
"Your playing style is very similar to another undrafted free agent that played in the Boston area: J.J. Barea. Were you familiar at all with him when you were at Harvard? Any comparison there at all?

Being at Harvard and playing Northeastern, you hear his name a lot. I never got to play against him, but I've heard a lot about him and I've seen him on TV playing for the Mavs. I don't think I'm ready to compare myself to him.

He's proven himself in the league. In terms of us not being freak athletes and playing hard, that's a similarity. But I don't think I can compare my game to his. I haven't done enough."

Handled that question very nicely. I agree with him fully. I think he has the potential to be at the very least a bigger, taller Barea but just hasn't proven it in the league yet.


I look for this kid to be signed pretty soon to a max contract by weeks end.
:)

MavsfanUofA
07-19-2010, 10:58 AM
Why does everyone on this board think they are so smart. It's rediculous it makes me not want to return to this site. There are so many elitist fans on this board. Talk about something that matters not grammar errors. Please get a life.

sike
07-19-2010, 11:03 AM
It's rediculous it makes me not want to return to this site.

I say, go with your gut.

MavsfanUofA
07-19-2010, 11:07 AM
A fan is a fan, even if it is a stupid fan. I like Jeremy Lin's style. He has all the qualities that you can't teach. Plus he goes hard to the hole.

Underdog
07-19-2010, 11:19 AM
Why does everyone on this board think they are so smart. It's rediculous it makes me not want to return to this site. There are so many elitist fans on this board. Talk about something that matters not grammar errors. Please get a life.

Thanks for sharing that with us. Most people wouldn't take the time out to create a profile just so they can bitch about a site they weren't posting on before, but GREAT contribution to the board nonetheless - your post is almost as useful as all the posts that rant about grammatical errors...

Rediculous (http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/ridiculous).

DirkFTW
07-19-2010, 11:28 AM
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/mouseanony/redick.jpg

dude1394
07-19-2010, 12:49 PM
Why does everyone on this board think they are so smart. It's rediculous it makes me not want to return to this site. There are so many elitist fans on this board. Talk about something that matters not grammar errors. Please get a life.

A "man"'s gotta do what a "man's" gotta do.

But most men would just do it and not squawk about it.

Thomas86
07-19-2010, 04:39 PM
I hope the Mavs don't let him just walk right to the Lakers.

CadBane
07-19-2010, 04:45 PM
He's getting compared to JJB? Lofty praise indeed. Would have been hilarious if he was like "Yeah, I'm better than that scrub."

dude1394
07-19-2010, 04:58 PM
Is he signed yet, is he signed yet, is he signed yet?

I also would like to see him tearing it up in frisco, I'd make a few stops down there I expect.

rabbitproof
07-19-2010, 05:06 PM
Sounds like the Lakers are in the lead:
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5392883

tcat075
07-19-2010, 05:06 PM
New teams in the running (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallasmavericks/post/_/id/4670289/mavs-still-competing-for-lins-services) for Lin's services.

Still, in that article, one thing stands out to me. Donnie was the ONLY GM that offered him a SL spot. The only one. I think that would have to have some type of impact on his decision.

The only way I see him leaving Dallas is if some bad team guarantees him playing time. If all the other options are D-League or 3rd/4th string backup positions, I think he'll sign with the Mavs.

tcat075
07-19-2010, 05:08 PM
Sounds like the Lakers are in the lead:
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5392883

This is even newer than the article I posted.

Dangit.

I'm going to be mad if this kid goes somewhere else. If it wasn't for us putting him on the SL team, he wouldn't be signing anywhere in the NBA.

Thomas86
07-19-2010, 05:21 PM
He's going to the Lakers, RC whon't play him unless somebody is hurt.

rabbitproof
07-19-2010, 05:37 PM
He's wanting and deserving of a roster spot albeit a #15 or #14.. a SL spot won't cut it, peeps.

mavsfan4lyfe201
07-19-2010, 06:49 PM
hes gonna be playin for another team guys, its the sad truth.

hes such a humble guy, and leaves it all on the court

tell me when barea attacks the basket? barea may be tough but he settles for the shot every time.

well i hope we can somehow work somethin out with Lin, but its not likely..

FINtastic
07-19-2010, 06:50 PM
Considering the level of point guard play on the Lakers, I wouldn't be shocked if he went there. He might actually be able to get some minutes on that team and on a team that is the 2x defending champions to boot. I hope he comes here, but that might be a hard offer to pass up.

iella
07-19-2010, 06:59 PM
Considering the level of point guard play on the Lakers, I wouldn't be shocked if he went there. He might actually be able to get some minutes on that team and on a team that is the 2x defending champions to boot. I hope he comes here, but that might be a hard offer to pass up.

I would hope that his Bay Area roots have instilled in him a deep, deep hatred of the Lakers... alas, I suspect that even if this were the case, an NBA salary (as opposed to a D-league salary (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7239948)) coupled with a promise of playing time would be sufficient to overcome such a hatred. And who could blame him?

Sigh.

jacktruth
07-19-2010, 07:30 PM
hes gonna be playin for another team guys, its the sad truth.

hes such a humble guy, and leaves it all on the court

tell me when barea attacks the basket? barea may be tough but he settles for the shot every time.

well i hope we can somehow work somethin out with Lin, but its not likely..

Actually Barea attacks the basket pretty well. He was the only one doing it in the playoffs last year. Now, he get's his Sh@t swatted half the time, but he has the sac to play in the paint. I think Lin is a better prospect, I'm just saying, let's shoot from the facts.

jacktruth
07-19-2010, 07:31 PM
He's going to the Lakers, RC whon't play him unless somebody is hurt.

Sad but true. One of the saddest things is forcing Roddy to play PG. He'll never be a good point guard. He should play SG.

SMC0007
07-19-2010, 07:39 PM
Who in their right mind would choose Dallas over the Lakers if all things are even close to equal... regardless of what Donnie has done for him. Thanks but c ya later.

Kidd Karma
07-19-2010, 07:43 PM
I would hope that his Bay Area roots have instilled in him a deep, deep hatred of the Lakers... alas, I suspect that even if this were the case, an NBA salary (as opposed to a D-league salary (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7239948)) coupled with a promise of playing time would be sufficient to overcome such a hatred. And who could blame him?

Sigh.

PT will never be promised, you just have to review the rosters.....yep, GSW fan....Webber.

mavsfan4lyfe201
07-19-2010, 07:54 PM
being from cali its hard to see him passing up an offer to play there..

we had the best gaurds on our summer team without a doubt..but this team is overloaded with all these mini gaurds. and thats why were gonna lose....

im on board to trade roddy if its for the right talent, id do it for iggy immediately.

i mean were in 'win now' mode..so why not? dont get me wrong roddy and dojo is a great future..but i want a legit normal-sized SG before anything..since we havnt had one in near a decade now

dude1394
07-19-2010, 08:15 PM
He's going to the Lakers, RC whon't play him unless somebody is hurt.

Redundant man strikes again.

iella
07-19-2010, 08:39 PM
being from cali its hard to see him passing up an offer to play there..

Speaking as someone born and raised in Northern California, the Bay Area and Southern California are effectively two different states. There's some stuff above San Francisco and some stuff between SF and LA, but no one really cares about said stuff.

LA sucks. High taxes, lots of traffic, general superficiality.

quietsavant
07-19-2010, 09:50 PM
# #Mavs, with competition, working to seal Jeremy Lin deal as you read this ... about 1 hour ago via web


Fish on twitter

Thomas86
07-19-2010, 10:16 PM
Redundant man strikes again.

I could see if I was lying but I'm not I mean everybody know's how RC is by now, RC had his best rotations when half the roster was hurt last season.

jthig32
07-19-2010, 10:18 PM
Sad but true. One of the saddest things is forcing Roddy to play PG. He'll never be a good point guard. He should play SG.

It's sad that they're playing Roddy at PG in Summer League? Really? His value sky rockets if he can play PG...and he's young...it'd be absolutely idiotic to not see if he can learn the position.

Sounds like the Lakers are in the lead:
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5392883

Don't really agree think that article means anything. It's a story on ESPN LA, of course the agent is going to say he's considering LA. Just like Raja Bell tells a Dallas radio station that he'd like to play in Dallas. It's playing along.

Not saying he won't sign with LA, but I wouldn't draw any conclusions at all from that article.

twistaeffect2004
07-19-2010, 10:24 PM
Redundant man strikes again.

I prefer Sarcasm man myself.

Dirkenstien
07-19-2010, 11:01 PM
Hope we sign him. I'll be furious if that "Eastern team" lands him and ends up being Miami.

Dirkadirkastan
07-19-2010, 11:12 PM
Hope we sign him. I'll be furious if that "Eastern team" lands him and ends up being Miami.

I like your sig quote, but don't you think the name of that city of heathens should tarnish the site as little as possible?

dude1394
07-19-2010, 11:22 PM
I could see if I was lying but I'm not I mean everybody know's how RC is by now, RC had his best rotations when half the roster was hurt last season.

Lying has nothing to do with it. Putting the same ol, same ol on every post is redundant. It's a disease of the masses.

Dirkenstien
07-19-2010, 11:30 PM
I like your sig quote, but don't you think the name of that city of heathens should tarnish the site as little as possible?

It's from when we were up in the Finals. :(. I'm still holding on to the sweet memory of it.

mavsfan4lyfe201
07-19-2010, 11:46 PM
fish's twitter says were trying to sign Lin as of tonight...

but we have competition obviously, at least from a few teams...

fingers crossed...but if i was a bettin man id bet on LA...

Flacolaco
07-20-2010, 12:18 AM
What an informative thread title.

LonghornDub
07-20-2010, 12:31 AM
In fairness, the thread title was actually edited at some point. It used to be just as uninformative, but far more illiterate.

Thomas86
07-20-2010, 05:19 PM
Lying has nothing to do with it. Putting the same ol, same ol on every post is redundant. It's a disease of the masses.

Thanks for stalking my post.:rolleyes:

mavErika
07-20-2010, 08:32 PM
STEIN_LINE_HQ Warriors closing in on signing of Mavs summer-league sensation Jeremy Lin. ESPN.com link forthcoming
9 minutes ago rep

Somebody tell Lin that's the wrong Nelson over there! Well, I guess it's good for him...
Hard to find a coach with more of "rookie-coach" reputation than Nelson - that is, if he's still going to be there next season.

Rick41
07-20-2010, 08:41 PM
Lin is getting a multi-year deal with sizeable guarantees in the first year.

twistaeffect2004
07-20-2010, 08:46 PM
Good for Lin. He'll get burn with the Warriors. I think he has nice game and will play well for Nellie.

mavErika
07-20-2010, 08:53 PM
... and he's able to stay in the Bay Area and still in possession of his soul(did not become a Laker/Heatler). Again, good for him!

edit: the espn-link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5396732&campaign=rss&source=DALLASHeadlines

SMC0007
07-20-2010, 09:02 PM
If that is true. Damn it. Maybe JJ hit his growth spurt this summer.

mavsfan4lyfe201
07-20-2010, 09:08 PM
of course. i wish both nelsons would leave the nba for good.

donnie nelson jr brings lin to summer league and gives him a chance...

all for him to blow up and sign somewhere else..

meanwhile were stuck with barea. id take lin over terry at this point, im that tired of his game.

Dirkenstien
07-20-2010, 09:14 PM
Would have much rather had him than JJB.

Oh well, good luck to the kid.

dude1394
07-20-2010, 09:19 PM
Not a bad coach to learn offensive-only point guarding under.

quietsavant
07-20-2010, 09:27 PM
Nice deal for both Warriors and Lin. Wish him lots of luck, he will get sufficient time with that young team to develop his skills.

jthig32
07-20-2010, 09:30 PM
Guaranteed money for an undrafted Summer League stand out that was offered a Summer League spot by exactly one team.....

That's....a tad nuts.

Don't get me wrong, the guy looked promising, but guaranteed money based on five Summer League games? Wow.

Good for him though. He went from hoping to play in the DLeague to getting guaranteed money for his childhood team. Pretty sweet turnaround for him.

tcat075
07-20-2010, 10:20 PM
Wish the Mavs could have got him cheap when the demand was nonexistent, but obviously, how where they suppose to know?

I'd be more upset with losing him to another team if it had been LA or Miami. GS? Sure, why not. Its not like he'd have been a contributor this year or next year, most likely, even if he does turn out to be a nice NBA player.

I'll keep my eye on him, for sure.

dirno2000
07-20-2010, 10:24 PM
According to the article they're only guaranteeing $250K. Nellie's probably thinking he made Morrow, Watson and Azubuike he can make Lin.

iella
07-20-2010, 10:46 PM
Guaranteed money for an undrafted Summer League stand out that was offered a Summer League spot by exactly one team.....

That's....a tad nuts.

Don't get me wrong, the guy looked promising, but guaranteed money based on five Summer League games? Wow.

Good for him though. He went from hoping to play in the DLeague to getting guaranteed money for his childhood team. Pretty sweet turnaround for him.

The Asian-American presence in the Bay Area is ridiculous. His jersey sales alone will probably pay for the rumored $250k guaranteed part of his salary. Slight exaggeration, but not a stretch to say that ticket sales will increase.

Still upset that he didn't pick the Mavs... sigh.

jthig32
07-20-2010, 10:46 PM
According to the article they're only guaranteeing $250K. Nellie's probably thinking he made Morrow, Watson and Azubuike he can make Lin.

Obviously a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but any guaranteed money at all based on SL alone without going through training camp seems awfully aggressive to me, and might be close to unprecedented.

dirno2000
07-20-2010, 11:38 PM
yea but it's equally rare for a player to generate as much buzz as Lin did based on summer league alone. He created a market that wasn't there a month ago.

When combine that with the fact that they're really light at guard after losing Morrow and Watson it doesn't seem that crazy.

I also wouldn't discount the fact that there's a big Asian population in the Bay area. It's still a business at the end of the day.

DevinHarriswillstart
07-21-2010, 01:57 AM
lol I love the ESPN headline "Mavs summer star nears contract with Warriors.."

9 points, 2 assists per game make you a star now? The kid has some POTENTIAL, but star?! Good grief...

rabbitproof
07-21-2010, 04:06 AM
Good for him but wish he stuck with the Mavs.

41mvp
07-21-2010, 07:42 AM
Donnie Nelson and the Mavericks didn't give Jeremy Lin a chance-it's true.Coach Carlisle never never gives chance rookies players.Warriors is great team for Lin coach Nelson surely gives him a chance.

Underdog
07-21-2010, 09:24 AM
Donnie Nelson and the Mavericks didn't give Jeremy Lin a chance-it's true.

Holy crap, are you still posting here?

SMC0007
07-21-2010, 10:17 AM
They didn't base it on just the summer league games. He showed he could do the same things he has been doing against tougher competition. Not hard to believe that Don had discussions with Donnie about how good he thought the kid was and could be, given Donnies background in scouting.

41mvp
07-21-2010, 11:01 AM
Holy crap, are you still posting here?

What you want sucker?

SMC0007
07-21-2010, 11:08 AM
uh-oh. You guys are gonna have to play a game of ball and settle this!!!!!!!!!!!

Underdog
07-21-2010, 11:11 AM
What you want sucker?

I want you to stop saying stupid sh!t like, "Donnie Nelson and the Mavericks didn't give Jeremy Lin a chance" when that's the exact opposite of what really happened...

The language barrier is one thing, but do you even pay attention to the Mavericks? Nobody on the planet would be talking about Jeremy Lin if Donnie Nelson and the Mavs hadn't just given him a shot in the summer league...

In short: shut the f*ck up.

RareMilk
07-21-2010, 11:31 AM
Find a post of mine a while back....I said the bay area has a lot of asians. This relates because Lin is asian. Yep that is me relating.

41mvp
07-21-2010, 11:32 AM
I want you to stop saying stupid sh!t like, "Donnie Nelson and the Mavericks didn't give Jeremy Lin a chance" when that's the exact opposite of what really happened...

The language barrier is one thing, but do you even pay attention to the Mavericks? Nobody on the planet would be talking about Jeremy Lin if Donnie Nelson and the Mavs hadn't just given him a shot in the summer league...

In short: shut the f*ck up.

you are complete moron!!!Dallas give him chance in SL agree.But I writes about regular season NBA with MAVS.
For him better club in NBA are Warriors.This so as from Gortat in Magic he waste in this club.In Dallas he played in first 5.

Underdog
07-21-2010, 11:41 AM
you are complete moron!!!Dallas give him chance in SL agree.But I writes about regular season NBA with MAVS.
For him better club in NBA are Warriors.This so as from Gortat in Magic he waste in this club.In Dallas he played in first 5.

dallasbasketball.com (http://dallasbasketballdotcom.yuku.com/)

Take your stupid elsewhere...

41mvp
07-21-2010, 11:54 AM
Take your stupid there
http://probasket.pl/

Mav Addict
07-21-2010, 12:15 PM
Take your stupid there
http://probasket.pl/

HAHA!!! ....Thats funny...take your stupid....

Seriously 41MVP...we know you are from Poland, but how old are you? (and im not trying to be be funny)...i honestly wanna know

iella
07-21-2010, 12:29 PM
dallasbasketball.com (http://dallasbasketballdotcom.yuku.com/)

Take your stupid elsewhere...

UD, I have to admit I'm rooting for 41mvp in this one. He had me at, "What you want sucker?"

LonghornDub
07-21-2010, 12:36 PM
I always thought UD and I were pretty tight, but I gotta admit, this 41mvp guy's got something. ;)

41mvp
07-21-2010, 12:58 PM
HAHA!!! ....Thats funny...take your stupid....

Seriously 41MVP...we know you are from Poland, but how old are you? (and im not trying to be be funny)...i honestly wanna know

yeah I'm from POLAND and I'm Mavs fan!!!How old are you?you first my friend:)

http://a1.vox.com/6a00e398e8212d0005011018066a51860f-320pi
:):):):):):):)

jacktruth
07-21-2010, 01:07 PM
He's gonna be a Mavs killer.

chumdawg
07-21-2010, 01:12 PM
Hate to miss out. Dude looks like a stud!

Underdog
07-21-2010, 01:15 PM
Wait, is Jeremy Lin the first Polish-American basketball player to join the NBA?

This thread is confusing...

41mvp
07-21-2010, 01:20 PM
yeh your mother join to the NBA?

iella
07-21-2010, 01:33 PM
yeh your mother join to the NBA?

Don't quite understand this one, I'll just assume something is lost in translation and it's brilliant in Polish. ZING, UD. ZING.

41mvp
07-21-2010, 01:43 PM
Do you speak polish-iella

Mav Addict
07-21-2010, 01:43 PM
yeah I'm from POLAND and I'm Mavs fan!!!How old are you?you first my friend:)

http://a1.vox.com/6a00e398e8212d0005011018066a51860f-320pi
:):):):):):):)


Im 33....now seriously, how old are you?

41mvp
07-21-2010, 01:46 PM
ok I'm...years old

Mav Addict
07-21-2010, 01:50 PM
ok last my question how you height?

:eek:

Dude stop being a pervert...

dirno2000
07-21-2010, 02:00 PM
They didn't base it on just the summer league games. He showed he could do the same things he has been doing against tougher competition. Not hard to believe that Don had discussions with Donnie about how good he thought the kid was and could be, given Donnies background in scouting.

I find it hard to believe. At least I hope it's not the case. That's proprietary information.

SMC0007
07-21-2010, 02:13 PM
You may be right, but you may also be naive

iella
07-21-2010, 02:21 PM
Do you speak polish-iella

Not in the slightest. I speak English and Chinese (Mandarin) on a regular basis, have the competency of a 3-year-old in Spanish, and know a smattering of phrases in Klingon.

Underdog
07-21-2010, 02:25 PM
Not in the slightest. I speak English and Chinese (Mandarin) on a regular basis, have the competency of a 3-year-old in Spanish, and know a smattering of phrases in Klingon.

NuqDaq ta' SoH pol yuch?

41mvp
07-21-2010, 02:26 PM
Not in the slightest. I speak English and Chinese (Mandarin) on a regular basis, have the competency of a 3-year-old in Spanish, and know a smattering of phrases in Klingon.

are you serious:)?Where are you from?

iella
07-21-2010, 02:34 PM
NuqDaq ta' SoH pol yuch?

I wish I knew, I could really use some right now.

are you serious:)?Where are you from?

I am serious, but you have officially reached creeper status. I'm back to being on UD's team. To answer your question: I'm not from Qo'noS.

SMC0007
07-21-2010, 02:36 PM
WTF is goin on anymore?

Mav Addict
07-21-2010, 02:38 PM
He is very creepy...he answers questions with answers which mean he is obviously hiding something or obviously creepy...im going with the latter

iella
07-21-2010, 02:42 PM
WTF is goin on anymore?

It's the offseason, and Lin went to the Warriors. What else is there to talk about? :(

SMC0007
07-21-2010, 02:42 PM
He is very creepy...he answers questions with answers which mean he is obviously hiding something or obviously creepy...im going with the latter


hmm

41mvp
07-21-2010, 02:46 PM
I wish I knew, I could really use some right now.



I am serious, but you have officially reached creeper status. I'm back to being on UD's team. To answer your question: I'm not from Qo'noS.

Where are you from?

saclare
07-21-2010, 02:51 PM
Does anyone remember crazyboy? There is a striking resemblence in both grammar and language barrier problems...

saclare
07-21-2010, 02:52 PM
And overall ability to side-track a thread and have no contributions to the thread in which they post...

saclare
07-21-2010, 02:54 PM
With that said...

Jeremy Lin is a nice player, but this is not a huge loss for the Mavs in any way, sorry. Like thig said, guaranteed money for someone who had mediocre stats in a summer league? Take him.

chumdawg
07-21-2010, 02:55 PM
You guys need to stop ragging my boy 41mvp. He has great enthusiasm. He reminds me in a way of our dear departed friend Romus. I never will forget his great line in the GDT:

"A lot foul tonight, cause great defense and much aggressivity!"

Underdog
07-21-2010, 03:08 PM
You guys need to stop ragging my boy 41mvp. He has great enthusiasm. He reminds me in a way of our dear departed friend Romus. I never will forget his great line in the GDT:

"A lot foul tonight, cause great defense and much aggressivity!"

At least I can figure out what that means...

Please translate this gem by 41mvp regarding Lin: "This so as from Gortat in Magic he waste in this club.In Dallas he played in first 5."

dirno2000
07-21-2010, 03:14 PM
Romus was greatness. If we were smart we would have cataloged his work.

chumdawg
07-21-2010, 03:16 PM
At least I can figure out what that means...

Please translate this gem by 41mvp regarding Lin: "This so as from Gortat in Magic he waste in this club.In Dallas he played in first 5."He was saying that GW is a good fit for Lin, because he will get playing time there, whereas here he would have wasted away on the bench, like Gortat in Orlando. Were Gortat in Dallas he would be a starter.

Underdog
07-21-2010, 03:19 PM
He was saying that GW is a good fit for Lin, because he will get playing time there, whereas here he would have wasted away on the bench, like Gortat in Orlando. Were Gortat in Dallas he would be a starter.

You're a f*cking cipher!

iella
07-21-2010, 03:20 PM
He was saying that GW is a good fit for Lin, because he will get playing time there, whereas here he would have wasted away on the bench, like Gortat in Orlando. Were Gortat in Dallas he would be a starter.

chum, it's official. You are now 41mvp's translator.

nikeball
07-21-2010, 03:21 PM
Chumdawg, you should work for Rosetta Stone.

Underdog
07-21-2010, 03:21 PM
RosettaDawg.

iella
07-21-2010, 03:29 PM
RosettaDawg.

UD, there have been about 10 instances in the past week where I wished there were other people to which I could spread rep in order that I might bestow it upon you once more. I know my wishing doesn't add to your rep, but hopefully it gives you warm fuzzy (non-dirty, please, you pervert) feelings at least.

Kidd Karma
07-21-2010, 03:30 PM
With that said...

Jeremy Lin is a nice player, but this is not a huge loss for the Mavs in any way, sorry. Like thig said, guaranteed money for someone who had mediocre stats in a summer league? Take him.

Definitely, not a huge loss. Donnie is on the record as saying he's one year away, and guaranteed money for that, is a bit too much at this point....at least for a team that wants to contend and still is 1 major piece(2 guard) and 1 minor piece(backup PF) away from final 2.

chumdawg
07-21-2010, 03:40 PM
Romus was greatness. If we were smart we would have cataloged his work.Boy, you ain't never lied. I just went back and read all his posts. He was on a ROLL in the spring of '05. I would love to gather up the best of those posts (some of which read like a sort of haiku) and create a Random Romus Generator. That would be so, so cool.

saclare
07-21-2010, 03:49 PM
Boy, you ain't never lied. I just went back and read all his posts. He was on a ROLL in the spring of '05. I would love to gather up the best of those posts (some of which read like a sort of haiku) and create a Random Romus Generator. That would be so, so cool.

Sounds like a good thread idea to me...the forum has been dead on the same topics for a good week now.

SMC0007
07-21-2010, 03:51 PM
It's not a loss because we never had him. Now, we most likely could have and I hope it doesn't come back to haunt us later. Just because he is a year away doesn't mean we shouldn't be building pieces for the future. I'm going on record as saying now, "I told you so", mostly because no one will remember if he flames out :)

CadBane
07-21-2010, 03:59 PM
Are you telling me we were never in the Jeremy Lin race to begin with?

wilmtalk
07-21-2010, 04:31 PM
Good for Lin. He'll get burn with the Warriors. I think he has nice game and will play well for Nellie.

Under new ownership the Warriors are building for the future and the word is that it will not include Nellie. He is in his last year of his contract and it seems stupid to retain a lame duck coach. The word is that he will be gone before this season begins.

mavsfan4lyfe201
07-21-2010, 04:47 PM
i guess im over it by now. i wanted lin on the mavs bad, but hes on the warriors..and thats the best spot for him and hes not on a contender like LA.

but ill remember this when barea and terry are out there chuckin shots in the playoffs...

anyone know what dallas sees in havin all small gaurds, i hope dojo gets some run this year.

SMC0007
07-21-2010, 06:38 PM
Are you telling me we were never in the Jeremy Lin race to begin with?


We were never in any race to begin with.

bobatundi
07-21-2010, 07:14 PM
i guess im over it by now. i wanted lin on the mavs bad, but hes on the warriors..and thats the best spot for him and hes not on a contender like LA.

but ill remember this when barea and terry are out there chuckin shots in the playoffs...

anyone know what dallas sees in havin all small gaurds, i hope dojo gets some run this year.

anyone know what a gaurd is?

chumdawg
07-21-2010, 08:11 PM
anyone know what a gaurd is?I believe that is a family of some sort of plant life, or vegetation if you will. Plus they sometimes make it into a musical instrument.

mavsfan4lyfe201
07-21-2010, 10:24 PM
some of you kids are really annoying...this is why i dont post or come on here often.

you kids are some elitist clowns. get off your computer once in a while.

SMC0007
07-21-2010, 11:21 PM
some of you kids are really annoying...this is why i dont post or come on here often.

you kids are some elitist clowns. get off your computer once in a while.


Listen, on behalf of these ass clowns around here, I apologize!

Now, What is it gonna take to get you to come back around on a regular basis?? There's gotta be something we can do.

MaVs 41 BaLler
07-22-2010, 12:14 AM
Just wondering but is this the most hated mavs fan on here or what?

MaVs 41 BaLler
07-22-2010, 12:22 AM
Listen, on behalf of these ass clowns around here, I apologize!

Now, What is it gonna take to get you to come back around on a regular basis?? There's gotta be something we can do.

lmaoo, says the one who was the biggest ass clown in that melo thread
:p

LonghornDub
07-22-2010, 12:47 AM
He was saying that GW is a good fit for Lin, because he will get playing time there, whereas here he would have wasted away on the bench, like Gortat in Orlando. Were Gortat in Dallas he would be a starter.

You should charge for this sort of service. Bravo.

41mvp
07-22-2010, 02:12 AM
my english is not perfect I konow but I still learn it.Sorry for my all grammar mistake.
chumdawg thanks for translation my words.

MaVs 41 BaLler
07-22-2010, 02:44 AM
my english is not perfect I konow but I still learn it.Sorry for my all grammar mistake.
chumdawg thanks for translation my words.

ya ya, its all good :p

Underdog
07-22-2010, 04:41 AM
my english is not perfect I konow but I still learn it.Sorry for my all grammar mistake.
chumdawg thanks for translation my words.

Funny how your English seems to work just fine when you're lobbing insults at other posters...

41mvp
07-22-2010, 05:41 AM
Underdog-you are for me stinking s##t

Underdog
07-22-2010, 09:28 AM
Underdog-you are for me stinking s##t

Thanks for proving my point...

(kinda)

DirkFTW
07-22-2010, 09:43 AM
Funny how your English seems to work just fine when you're lobbing insults at other posters...

I think that's the natural progression of learning a foreign language. "Where's the bathroom", "I don't speak English", "#@%$ you", "I was robbed by two men"...

iella
07-22-2010, 05:07 PM
Good interview of Lin over at sfgate.com (http://imgs.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/warriors/index). This kid has his head on straight - I think his answers to the racism questions are funny. He always says something along the lines of "Yeah, I'm used to it by now" with the subtle implication of, "Can't you guys come up with more creative questions?" He sure didn't waste time feeling sorry for himself, so why is everyone else discussing the race factor? We all have challenges... the people that rise to the top are the ones that get over them without feeling sorry for themselves.

Asked to compare himself to an NBA player, he chose Steve Nash's back-up with the Suns, Goran Dragic.
"Neither of us is a freak athlete, but we're both effective and know how to play the game."

Describe your style on the court.
"I'm a playmaker. I'm always attacking the rim and have somewhat of a reckless style. I try to be everywhere at once."

How soon after the draft did you hear from Donnie Nelson with the Mavericks about joining their summer-league team?
"Actually, he called me before the draft ended. Around the fifth to eighth pick, he called me, and I guess he already knew I wasn't going to be drafted."

When did the Warriors first show interest?
"I heard from my agent (Tuesday) around 4 or 5 in the afternoon. We hadn't made a decision yet. I hadn't really heard anything about that because I told my agent I didn't want to hear anything until it was final."

(Agent Roger Montgomery said the Warriors first called him about midway through the summer league, at about the same time the Lakers called.)

Do you feel prepared to play point guard in the NBA?
"I feel like I'm ready to play. I feel like my game is suitable for the NBA style, because I'm a slasher and there's a lot of pick-and-rolls."

Can you can keep up with NBA point guards defensively, especially the quicker ones?
"Yeah, I think being 6-4 with shoes and a pretty decent wingspan, I think I'll be all right."

When you heard from Donnie Nelson that early in the draft about coming to the summer league as an undrafted free agent, were you disappointed? What did you expect on draft night?
"I thought I was going to be a borderline, could potentially, could potentially not get drafted. It was obviously a very disappointing night for me, but looking back, it was the best situation for me, because I was able to be a free agent and to take offers from different teams."

How tough was it to pass on Dallas' offer after their GM was the one who gave you the shot and invited you to summer league?
"Donnie took care of me. He really took care of me. He really, really did. I'm not just saying that. And I'm really thankful to him. I actually am going to call him right after this."

Why do you think Donnie Nelson gave you that chance?
"He has a different type of vision than most people do. I think he saw something inside of me or my game at Portsmouth that he fell in love with. He's been saying consistently that he thought I need some time to develop before I was NBA-ready, but he saw potential in me. So I'm very thankful to him for that."

Some people don't like playing at home because there's so much pressure and attention. What about you?
"I'm just going to play my game and see where that takes me. And I'm not worried about filling shoes or meeting other people's expectations. That's never how I've approached the game."

Did you think you might go to the developmental league this season?
"During the process? Yeah, during the process you think about all the potential options. Overseas, D-League, NBA. ... There were times when that crossed my mind absolutely."

Is that still a possibility?
"It's always a possibility if you don't play well. It's always a possibility that you could get cut or waived. ... But that's not the attitude that I'm going to come into training camp with. I'm going to come in to ready to compete, ready to fight for my time, for my spot on the team."

You've said that you think of yourself as a basketball player more than as an Asian American player. But because you're here and the fan base has so many Asian Americans, do you understand how much impact you'll have?
"I don't think I fully understand it yet, but I think I will later on. I'm getting a glimpse of it right now."

What do you think about the sale of the team and the fact that you might be the first personnel move that involved the new owners?
"Well, I'm very thankful to the new ownership for giving me this opportunity. I know that this wouldn't have happened without their approval. .. In my opinion, I think they're doing a great job."

Stanford's Toby Gerhart ran into some stereotypes about being a white running back. Have you run into any of those things or talked to people about it?
"I actually roomed with Omar Samhan from St. Mary's. He was on Dallas with me. And we have very, very similar stories. Not really recruited out of high school and went on to have a pretty good college career and now we're back in that underdog role. ... So I got to talk to him a lot and he's been real supportive. It's nice to have someone to relate to."

Do you face Ivy League stereotypes?
"I feel like (if you hear) 'an Asian from Harvard,' if you think about that, you're not going to think, 'Oh, a player in the NBA.' I understand that. That's just the way it is."

What was the recruiting situation when you were coming out of high school?
"The Pac-10 schools wanted me to walk-on. The Ivy League schools, Harvard and Brown, were the two ones that really wanted me to go there and play for them. I was deciding mainly between those two conferences. ... I didn't really want to walk-on. I wanted to go somewhere the team wanted me. Not somewhere I'd have to go and potentially not have a spot on the team."

You had to pay the full tuition at Harvard?
"They don't offer athletic scholarships in the Ivy League. There's only financial aid based on need."

What was your grade-point average at Harvard?
Smiling: "My GPA was not a 4.2. That's been the rumor. It's not even possible. My friends have been absolutely killing me about that. I had a 3.1 at Harvard."

bobatundi
07-23-2010, 08:55 AM
How hard is it to use the right "there"?

I'm guessing Matt Barnes would struggle with it.

"Its official I AM A LOS ANGLES LAKER. I wanna thank u for all ur patients and understanding. This is a dream come true!!! Good lookn Kobe,"

Really, Matt? Patients?

Underdog
07-23-2010, 09:33 AM
I'm guessing Matt Barnes would struggle with it.

"Its official I AM A LOS ANGLES LAKER. I wanna thank u for all ur patients and understanding. This is a dream come true!!! Good lookn Kobe,"

Really, Matt? Patients?

Didn't come up wrong on the spell-check, so it must be right!


:rolleyes:

Rick41
07-23-2010, 10:50 AM
Shawn Marion is another guy who makes me go WTF? when I read a tweet of his.... at least concerning punctuation. (most of the time)

bobatundi
07-23-2010, 03:41 PM
Didn't come up wrong on the spell-check, so it must be right!


:rolleyes:

It's awesome how spell-check has actually made Americans dumber. It's like Reality TV in that way.

tcat075
07-23-2010, 05:23 PM
It's awesome how spell-check has actually made Americans dumber. It's like Reality TV in that way.

Really? I feel smarter every time I watch a Jersey Shore episode.

SMC0007
07-23-2010, 06:19 PM
Jersey Shore starts next Thursday ... I mean. I heard that, from someone.

Underdog
07-23-2010, 06:22 PM
What the hell is Jersey Shore, a reality show about the Nets' wins?

(I heard they only signed on for 12 episodes... wocka-wocka-wocka!)

DevinHarriswillstart
07-23-2010, 07:31 PM
Can we move this to the Around the NBA section? I think the mention of Jersey Shore warrants that :).

xrobx
02-04-2012, 10:02 PM
Jeremy Lin with 25 7 and 5 to spark the Knicks win tonight

CadBane
02-04-2012, 10:12 PM
Jeremy Lin with 25 7 and 5 to spark the Knicks win tonight

Richie Framm once scored 31 points in a game.

rabbitproof
02-04-2012, 10:16 PM
DoJo has done so much better.

xrobx
02-04-2012, 10:18 PM
Richie Framm once scored 31 points in a game.

Tony Delk once scored 53 points in a game in 2001. Ask Jason Kidd, he was there. Actually, ask Marion too, they both started on that 2001 suns team

Budapest Maverick
02-04-2012, 10:21 PM
Lin is a good player, we obviously didn't have room for him, but i didn't understand why nobody gave him a fair chance after that very good summer league, he's a capable backup point guard, not the greatest athlete in the world, and a very poor long range shooter, but he plays his heart out every night, and plays defense. Nothing indicates he'll have a game like that more frequently than once in a blue moon though.

CadBane
02-04-2012, 10:26 PM
Tony Delk once scored 53 points in a game in 2001. Ask Jason Kidd, he was there. Actually, ask Marion too, they both started on that 2001 suns team

I know. I thought about referencing Delk, but he was actually a solid NBA player (obviously not 50 good, but solid). Framm was a Steve Novak journeyman.

xrobx
02-04-2012, 10:35 PM
I know. I thought about referencing Delk, but he was actually a solid NBA player (obviously not 50 good, but solid). Framm was a Steve Novak journeyman.

I'm not sure which is more odd, the fact that Delk had 53, or the fact we're starting two players that were starters together 11 years ago

clutch#41
02-04-2012, 11:06 PM
on top of this, Lin schooled Dwill in the 4th qtr!!

fluid.forty.one
02-05-2012, 02:26 PM
Richie Framm once scored 31 points in a game.

Austin Croshere once scored 34 points in a game.

jthig32
02-05-2012, 02:30 PM
Lin is a good player, we obviously didn't have room for him, but i didn't understand why nobody gave him a fair chance after that very good summer league, he's a capable backup point guard, not the greatest athlete in the world, and a very poor long range shooter, but he plays his heart out every night, and plays defense. Nothing indicates he'll have a game like that more frequently than once in a blue moon though.

Nobody gave him a fair chance?? The Warriors signed him to a 2 year deal, with the first year guaranteed and the second year partially guaranteed.

Jeremy Lin is the poster boy of why people should not go crazy over Summer League results.

JeffViggiano
02-05-2012, 03:16 PM
Austin Croshere once scored 34 points in a game.

Austin rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

CadBane
02-05-2012, 03:18 PM
Nobody gave him a fair chance?? The Warriors signed him to a 2 year deal, with the first year guaranteed and the second year partially guaranteed.

Jeremy Lin is the poster boy of why people should not go crazy over Summer League results.

This. I wasn't even that wow'ed with Lin in SL.

CadBane
02-05-2012, 03:21 PM
Austin Croshere once scored 34 points in a game.

Yeah, but Croshere was a big piece on Indy's late 90s, early 00s team. He averaged double digits in two years.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 05:55 PM
Nobody gave him a fair chance?? The Warriors signed him to a 2 year deal, with the first year guaranteed and the second year partially guaranteed.

Jeremy Lin is the poster boy of why people should not go crazy over Summer League results.I think you don't understand the purpose of summer league.

Bayliss
02-05-2012, 06:02 PM
He'll settle down once people start truly scouting him. When they realize some of his tendencies. Right now, even though he has been in the league, no coach/team has even remotely spent time trying to gameplan him. Once they look at some tape, then he'll come back down.

jthig32
02-05-2012, 07:20 PM
I think you don't understand the purpose of summer league.

I'm trying to decide whether I should be insulted by this, as the purpose of Summer League seems rather obvious.

What exactly do I not understand, Mr. Chum?

Before we go any further, please understand that after the 2010 Summer League, there were multiple posters on this board clamoring for the Mavs to give Lin a guaranteed contract, claiming that he was already better than JJ Barea.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 07:39 PM
I'm trying to decide whether I should be insulted by this, as the purpose of Summer League seems rather obvious.

What exactly do I not understand, Mr. Chum?

Before we go any further, please understand that after the 2010 Summer League, there were multiple posters on this board clamoring for the Mavs to give Lin a guaranteed contract, claiming that he was already better than JJ Barea.You seem to be talking about summer league as an audition for rotation spots. It's not that. It's about making rosters. And yes, there is often cause enough to "go crazy," as you put it. As crazy as you can go for the 15th guy on your roster, that is.

Unless, of course, you think that the end guys on the bench are of no importance.

jthig32
02-05-2012, 08:10 PM
You seem to be talking about summer league as an audition for rotation spots. It's not that. It's about making rosters. And yes, there is often cause enough to "go crazy," as you put it. As crazy as you can go for the 15th guy on your roster, that is.

Unless, of course, you think that the end guys on the bench are of no importance.

So you agree with me. And yet you seem to be acting like you disagree with me, or that you're teaching me something.

You're awesome.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 08:21 PM
So you agree with me. And yet you seem to be acting like you disagree with me, or that you're teaching me something.

You're awesome.Get rid of the drama. What do you think you said that I agree with?

jthig32
02-05-2012, 08:33 PM
Get rid of the drama. What do you think you said that I agree with?

I was chastising the people that wanted to give Lin a guaranteed contract based on Summer League results. There were people that wanted to see him in the rotation ahead of JJB, and who killed the Mavs for "losing" Lin when Golden State gave him a two year deal.

Summer League is full of terrible, terrible competition. It is very hard to draw concrete results from it. For an undrafted rookie playing in Summer League, you're generally looking for, at BEST, an invite to camp and a make good contract (which is what JJB got, btw).

Saying you think someone should get an invite to camp and could maybe, somehow make a roster is not going crazy. I'm not at all misunderstanding what Summer League is about. I watch it every year - hell I've even paid to watch it before.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 08:40 PM
I was chastising the people that wanted to give Lin a guaranteed contract based on Summer League results. There were people that wanted to see him in the rotation ahead of JJB, and who killed the Mavs for "losing" Lin when Golden State gave him a two year deal.

Summer League is full of terrible, terrible competition. It is very hard to draw concrete results from it. For an undrafted rookie playing in Summer League, you're generally looking for, at BEST, an invite to camp and a make good contract (which is what JJB got, btw).

Saying you think someone should get an invite to camp and could maybe, somehow make a roster is not going crazy. I'm not at all misunderstanding what Summer League is about. I watch it every year - hell I've even paid to watch it before.I've paid to watch it, too. And that underscores my point. It's about trying to find guys who possibly, maybe, could compete. If the whole ordeal is worthless--as in, these guys will never have a chance to contribute to the NBA--then why are guys like you and me paying to watch it?

It does have value (even if you need to recognize that the value is marginal). That's why you shouldn't just dismiss it offhand.

jthig32
02-05-2012, 08:44 PM
I've paid to watch it, too. And that underscores my point. It's about trying to find guys who possibly, maybe, could compete. If the whole ordeal is worthless--as in, these guys will never have a chance to contribute to the NBA--then why are guys like you and me paying to watch it?

It does have value (even if you need to recognize that the value is marginal). That's why you shouldn't just dismiss it offhand.

I didn't dismiss it offhand, and I never said the whole ordeal was worthless. As I said earlier, we agree here.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 08:50 PM
I didn't dismiss it offhand, and I never said the whole ordeal was worthless. As I said earlier, we clearly agree here.But...did you mean to imply that there was something wrong with giving Lin a contract? I thought it was merited.

b_o_r
02-05-2012, 08:58 PM
There is a 5 page thread dedicated to Jeremy Lin? A player that never played for Mavericks.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 08:59 PM
There is a 5 page thread dedicated to Jeremy Lin? A player that never played for Mavericks.Oh, I think he did.

jthig32
02-05-2012, 09:01 PM
But...did you mean to imply that there was something wrong with giving Lin a contract? I thought it was merited.

I was completely in favor of bringing Lin into camp with a make good contract. I was even mildly disappointed that GSW signed him.

But there were people on this board that made a big deal out of losing Lin, that wanted the Mavs to give him a guaranteed contract. And as I've said, there were people envisioning him as a rotation player last year, which is crazy.

And Golden State giving him a 1.5 year guaranteed contract before he even got to camp was nuts.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 09:13 PM
I was completely in favor of bringing Lin into camp with a make good contract. I was even mildly disappointed that GSW signed him.

But there were people on this board that made a big deal out of losing Lin, that wanted the Mavs to give him a guaranteed contract. And as I've said, there were people envisioning him as a rotation player last year, which is crazy.

And Golden State giving him a 1.5 year guaranteed contract before he even got to camp was nuts.I do not remember it like you do. I can't remember anyone who wanted to give him a rotation spot. I think you are fluffing yourself with that one.

As for a contract...I would have been for giving him a contract (make-good or otherwise). But I think you are playing with your pecker if you believe that folks had other designs.

SMC0007
02-05-2012, 09:36 PM
Jeremy Lin is a good player and he will end up being a starter in this league no doubt. I give him time to get used to the offense he is running and the players that surround him and he will develop nicely. Mark it down. I was one of the few that believed we should definitely have taken a longer look at him.

jthig32
02-05-2012, 09:50 PM
I do not remember it like you do. I can't remember anyone who wanted to give him a rotation spot. I think you are fluffing yourself with that one.

As for a contract...I would have been for giving him a contract (make-good or otherwise). But I think you are playing with your pecker if you believe that folks had other designs.

I have no idea what that last sentence means.

As for whether I'm "fluffing myself":

Would have much rather had him than JJB.

Oh well, good luck to the kid.


Donnie Nelson and the Mavericks didn't give Jeremy Lin a chance-it's true.Coach Carlisle never never gives chance rookies players.Warriors is great team for Lin coach Nelson surely gives him a chance.


i'm sold on lin, he's freaking awesome. give him barea's job asap.

id trade barea for this guy in a heartbeat. im sick of us being a strict jumpshooting team, it doesnt win you playoff games.

hell likely be playin somewhere else this season..in the nba


He's going to the Lakers, RC whon't play him unless somebody is hurt.

So there's five different posters. Three of them wanted to give him JJB's spot and minutes. The minutes of a rotation player. The other two lamented the fact that Rick wouldn't play him enough for him to sign here.

Those are just from this thread. I assure you, if I cared enough to go find the Summer League Gameday Threads, there would be plenty more of the same. This is the level of "crazy" that was I was referencing. People were willing to swap JJB and/or guarantee playing time for a guy that played good in five summer league games!

CadBane
02-05-2012, 09:56 PM
Jeremy Lin is a good player and he will end up being a starter in this league no doubt. I give him time to get used to the offense he is running and the players that surround him and he will develop nicely. Mark it down. I was one of the few that believed we should definitely have taken a longer look at him.

Put down the bong. This dude will never be a starter (at least not any longer than Reggie Williams was a starter with GS).

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 09:58 PM
It's sorta funny that you have no trouble with "fluffing yourself" but you have no idea what "playing with your pecker" means. But...that's just an aside.

As for your cites...well, I'm not sure what to tell you. Everyone (with a pulse) knew that they were silly at the time, so I'm not sure how much smarter it makes you look now.

Dirkadirkastan
02-05-2012, 10:00 PM
Remember when Barea shredded the D-League? I think he averaged over 40 points in his three games before being rushed back to the NBA.

jthig32
02-05-2012, 10:07 PM
It's sorta funny that you have no trouble with "fluffing yourself" but you have no idea what "playing with your pecker" means. But...that's just an aside.

I understood the "playing with your pecker" part. I wasn't sure what you meant by "other designs". I guess you were just reinforcing your point that no one thought he'd be anything but roster fodder. Which I've just proven incorrect and now you're deflecting.

BTW, here's another quote from SMC. His recent post reminded me that he was perhaps Lin's biggest backer in the SL threads.

Wow Jeremy Lin. If they don't give Lin a contract and a serious look I will be frustrated. Fit for the D-league? That kid can rival JJB right now and will no doubt be a better player. He has too many things going not to. The size and ability to play solid defense is great, I think he deserves a shot to run at the roster and JJBs minutes. At the very least they need to ensure they keep him from other teams. Damn I have been consistently impressed by him.

But you're right, no one with a pulse thought he'd get rotation minutes.

So now that we've come through this inane, argument, let me re-state my point:

Jeremy Lin is a perfect example of why you shouldn't go crazy over Summer League, as SMC did in the above quote.

This isn't about making me look smart. Plenty of people shared my opinion. It was hardly earth shattering. But there WAS a noticeable contingent on this board that "went crazy" over Lin in Summer League. I'm sorry if you don't agree with my right to point out that these people were wrong, but I'm afraid I don't care.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 10:15 PM
I understood the "playing with your pecker" part. I wasn't sure what you meant by "other designs". I guess you were just reinforcing your point that no one thought he'd be anything but roster fodder. Which I've just proven incorrect and now you're deflecting.

BTW, here's another quote from SMC. His recent post reminded me that he was perhaps Lin's biggest backer in the SL threads.



But you're right, no one with a pulse thought he'd get rotation minutes.

So now that we've come through this inane, argument, let me re-state my point:

Jeremy Lin is a perfect example of why you shouldn't go crazy over Summer League, as SMC did in the above quote.

This isn't about making me look smart. Plenty of people shared my opinion. It was hardly earth shattering. But there WAS a noticeable contingent on this board that "went crazy" over Lin in Summer League. I'm sorry if you don't agree with my right to point out that these people were wrong, but I'm afraid I don't care.You are so stodgy, man. You really should lighten up. Don't take everything so serious.

jthig32
02-05-2012, 10:21 PM
You are so stodgy, man. You really should lighten up. Don't take everything so serious.

You and Cad spent an hour arguing about where punctuation goes in a quote, and I'm taking things too seriously? Never change, Chum.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 10:27 PM
You and Cad spent an hour arguing about where punctuation goes in a quote, and I'm taking things too seriously? Never change, Chum.Cad's an ass, and he deserved it. You're cool.

CadBane
02-05-2012, 10:38 PM
Cad's an ass, and he deserved it. You're cool.

Deserved what? You failing?

Chum Busey, this back and forth with Thig epitomizes your attitude.

You say dumb shit. Someone proves you wrong. You deflect.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

How much internet time do they allow for at the Hollywood Hills Asylum?

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 10:49 PM
Deserved what? You failing?

Chum Busey, this back and forth with Thig epitomizes your attitude.

You say dumb shit. Someone proves you wrong. You deflect.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

How much internet time do they allow for at the Hollywood Hills Asylum?If you had half the chops of Thig, it wouldn't have taken me so little time to dismiss of you.

CadBane
02-05-2012, 10:51 PM
If you had half the chops of Thig, it wouldn't have taken me so little time to dismiss of you.

Your head must be an interesting place to live.

chumdawg
02-05-2012, 10:52 PM
Your head must be an interesting place to live.See, that's what I meant.

twelli
02-06-2012, 02:22 AM
Let's see and wait what Lin does next game and the games thereafter. Let's see what he does when the opposing teams prepare for him. Let's look at his defense.

BGMaverick9
02-06-2012, 08:08 AM
Ah, the internet...

Underdog
02-06-2012, 08:39 AM
This thread needed more awesome...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qQX_r71fzNo/Tgd5IZm8lTI/AAAAAAAAM9o/Byi37eCAsI0/s1600/Random%2BShit_128.jpg

SMC0007
02-06-2012, 09:39 AM
I understood the "playing with your pecker" part. I wasn't sure what you meant by "other designs". I guess you were just reinforcing your point that no one thought he'd be anything but roster fodder. Which I've just proven incorrect and now you're deflecting.

BTW, here's another quote from SMC. His recent post reminded me that he was perhaps Lin's biggest backer in the SL threads.



But you're right, no one with a pulse thought he'd get rotation minutes.

So now that we've come through this inane, argument, let me re-state my point:

Jeremy Lin is a perfect example of why you shouldn't go crazy over Summer League, as SMC did in the above quote.

This isn't about making me look smart. Plenty of people shared my opinion. It was hardly earth shattering. But there WAS a noticeable contingent on this board that "went crazy" over Lin in Summer League. I'm sorry if you don't agree with my right to point out that these people were wrong, but I'm afraid I don't care.

Jeez man. You quoted from last years summer league, where he clearly outplayed our rotation guards several times and it wasn't even close. He showed in the summer league the same thing he showed the other night. JJB wasn't playing near the level he did that he left here. You often get too caught up on stats man, too much stock in them. You need to balance that with what you are seeing with your eyes on the court.

jthig32
02-06-2012, 10:09 AM
Jeez man. You quoted from last years summer league, where he clearly outplayed our rotation guards several times and it wasn't even close. He showed in the summer league the same thing he showed the other night. JJB wasn't playing near the level he did that he left here. You often get too caught up on stats man, too much stock in them. You need to balance that with what you are seeing with your eyes on the court.

First of all, the complaint about stats doesn't make any sense in this context. I don't put ANY stock in Summer League stats.

Secondly, you seem to be acting like one good game from Lin validates your argument that he was ready to be a rotation player after 5 Summer League games last season. Is that your position?

Third...see Chum? This is why I brought this up.

SMC0007
02-06-2012, 10:24 AM
First of all, the complaint about stats doesn't make any sense in this context. I don't put ANY stock in Summer League stats.

Secondly, you seem to be acting like one good game from Lin validates your argument that he was ready to be a rotation player after 5 Summer League games last season. Is that your position?

Third...see Chum? This is why I brought this up.

Complaint about stats? It's not a complaint dude, just my observation. Do what you do. I prefer more balance between what I'm seeing past the stat line and on the floor.

You couldn't be further from my position on the subject. It's hard to see how you arrived where you are.

jthig32
02-06-2012, 10:27 AM
Complaint about stats? It's not a complaint dude, just my observation. Do what you do. I prefer more balance between what I'm seeing past the stat line and on the floor.

What does that have to do with this conversation?

DevinHarriswillstart
02-06-2012, 10:29 AM
There were times when Dominique Jones was the best player on the court during a summer league.

http://www.examiner.com/texas-legends-in-plano/dominique-jones-impressive-nba-summer-league-but-should-start-with-legends

MAN, why isn't he playing?! Look what he did in the summer league! We're talkin' moneyball here!

SMC0007
02-06-2012, 10:40 AM
What does that have to do with this conversation?

wow

SMC0007
02-06-2012, 10:43 AM
There were times when Dominique Jones was the best player on the court during a summer league.

http://www.examiner.com/texas-legends-in-plano/dominique-jones-impressive-nba-summer-league-but-should-start-with-legends

MAN, why isn't he playing?! Look what he did in the summer league! We're talkin' moneyball here!

He does play. With our team he isn't gonna get a ton of minutes just yet. Each team make up is different, but I don't have to tell you that.

DevinHarriswillstart
02-06-2012, 10:50 AM
He does play. With our team he isn't gonna get a ton of minutes just yet. Each team make up is different, but I don't have to tell you that.

So far Dominique Jones sucks plain and simple, but I don't have to tell you that.

rabbitproof
02-06-2012, 11:55 AM
Guess we'll learn more tonight.

Lin is now starting and with Baron Davis out indefinitely, the chance is there. How very New York.

EDIT:
This thread probably belongs in the Around the NBA section though.

Budapest Maverick
02-06-2012, 12:46 PM
Remember when Barea shredded the D-League? I think he averaged over 40 points in his three games before being rushed back to the NBA.

I think it was 30/10, not that it's important, your point is right. :)

SMC0007
02-06-2012, 12:49 PM
So far Dominique Jones sucks plain and simple, but I don't have to tell you that.

Sure he sucks, if you compare him to Michael Jordan.

Budapest Maverick
02-06-2012, 12:54 PM
Nobody gave him a fair chance?? The Warriors signed him to a 2 year deal, with the first year guaranteed and the second year partially guaranteed.

Jeremy Lin is the poster boy of why people should not go crazy over Summer League results.

He barely got playing time with the Warriors, and according to their fans (if i remember correctly) he played well, when he got a couple minutes, but they never gave him more playing time. No of course you can say he didn't get playing time, because he didn't deserve it, but it's sometimes a little more complicated than that. Just for the record, i'm not that high on the kid, i think his ceiling is a rotation player, backing up the PG and the SG, possibly as a 6th man.

SMC0007
02-06-2012, 12:54 PM
Prediction: Lin starts but doesn't light it up like last game and people stomp in here with "See told ya, he will NEVER be a good player and will NEVER be a starter... he sucks!" Summer league summer league summer league

Budapest Maverick
02-06-2012, 01:02 PM
Prediction (just for fun): Lin will put up 10/5, or 12/6 tonight, and will play good defense in the process. The Knicks system is a gold mine, if you can handle the ball, and find the scorers, i don't really see a bad game from him, especially now that he's high on confidence.

deamon
02-06-2012, 04:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0oaqWMLdwk&feature=player_embedded
6:38 Deron on the knees

CadBane
02-06-2012, 07:42 PM
I'm watching him tonight. He's not very quick or explosive, and has a poor jumper. I don't really understand how guys are letting him get by them to the rim (which is how he's scoring 90% of his points). That will change shortly, I imagine.

rabbitproof
02-06-2012, 07:47 PM
Smart player. Good vision. Solid on D. Quick first step though not particularly quick to the basket.

Could project to a more well-rounded Jose Calderon. May be more if he gets a better jumper.

dude1394
02-06-2012, 07:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0oaqWMLdwk&feature=player_embedded
6:38 Deron on the knees

Damn tyson got fouled on that first oop.

xrobx
02-06-2012, 07:57 PM
9 points and 7 assists at halftime..... he'll never be a starter in this league

xrobx
02-06-2012, 08:06 PM
also, Steve Novak leading the team in scoring with 16 points.... what?

SMC0007
02-06-2012, 08:26 PM
anyone have a link to that game?

rabbitproof
02-06-2012, 08:28 PM
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/106317/1/watch-new-york-knicks-vs-utah-jazz.html

rabbitproof
02-06-2012, 08:29 PM
Add good finisher to the list.

SMC0007
02-06-2012, 08:29 PM
Thanks, yeah I found the same one after asking. Sweet and1 by Lin. He is sparking the team to play a lil more inspired ball.

xrobx
02-06-2012, 08:34 PM
he is basically the nba's version of tim tebow

rabbitproof
02-06-2012, 08:38 PM
lol, MVP chants...

SMC0007
02-06-2012, 08:39 PM
he is basically the nba's version of tim tebow

Haha. Well he definitely seems to be the MSG versions of it :) They are loving him. Back to back 20pt games. Idc too much about the scoring from my PG but if it's from taking what they give you I'm all for it, and he's doing that. He's aggressive player and a very smart guy so I think he should be able to make the best of his opportunity.

rabbitproof
02-06-2012, 08:44 PM
Wow, he finishes really well. Third and-1 of the night.

Andddddddddddddd fantasy add :)

CadBane
02-06-2012, 08:55 PM
also, Steve Novak leading the team in scoring with 16 points.... what?

Do you know who Reggie Williams is?

CadBane
02-06-2012, 08:57 PM
Despite scoring a lot in the 2nd half (including some ridiculous touch and 1s, and a fluke 3), I think Lin was actually really exposed. He can't go left, and the dude had EIGHT TURNOVERS in the 2nd half. 8 turnovers in one half.

Look, he's a nice novelty, but lets hold off on the proclamations after 2 home games against teams with no defensive interior presence.

I'd like to see how he fares on the road and against some decent interior defensive teams.

That said, I think the dude can definitely be a rotation player. But starter? No.

j0Shi
02-06-2012, 09:01 PM
Overreacting on two good games is roddiculous. Just saying...

Will get interesting when defenses adjust and stuff.

rabbitproof
02-06-2012, 09:06 PM
Think exhaustion led to some of those 2nd half turnovers though he can be a bit reckless on his drives (ala Barea). Played some ironman minutes tonight (no rest after 1st quarter).

Will look to see how things change when Melo/STAT are on the floor and as defenses adjusts. Incredible first two games though.

CadBane
02-06-2012, 09:09 PM
Think exhaustion led to some of those 2nd half turnovers though he can be a bit reckless on his drives (ala Barea). Played some ironman minutes tonight (no rest after 1st quarter).

Will look to see how things change when Melo/STAT are on the floor and as defenses adjusts. Incredible first two games though.

4 of them came in the first 6 minutes of the 3rd quarter...

He also only had 1 assist in the 2nd half.

I agree, he should have received some rest. Dantoni is awful with minute management.