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grbh
07-29-2002, 02:14 PM
In light of the top 50 article, and an exercise I saw on the realgm.com board, I thought we might try a little something.

We have all individually given top 10 player lists on this board, but never collectively.

I propose a collective top 10, to see where the players are ranked.

Once a player receives 5 votes, that is where he is ranked. For instance if Shaq receive 5 votes before another player he is ranked #1, then the voting starts over for number 2.

Rank these players according to their worth today, or next season. In other words do not allow long term potential, or age to reflect in your response.

In the interest of brevity, I am declaring Shaq #1. Let us begin,

1. Shaq
2. ?

Drbio
07-29-2002, 03:48 PM
Duncan

turbo.mav
07-29-2002, 03:57 PM
2. Duncan

Bayliss
07-29-2002, 04:20 PM
2. Duncan
3. Kobe

DTL
07-29-2002, 04:21 PM
Duncan

i guess i'm a little confused here. can i say Duncan here still? or have me moved on to No. 3?

Bayliss
07-29-2002, 04:26 PM
My fault DTL.... actually we can still say Duncan at number 2... he's there anyway on most lists. Might as well move to number 3 (where the list really starts to form)

Drbio
07-29-2002, 04:27 PM
as soon as Duncan gets 5 votes he is locked into number 2.

Right now it is ......

1. Shaq
2. (Duncan leads 4-0)
3. (Showbe has one premature vote)

Hoopsmeister
07-29-2002, 04:49 PM
Duncan--which should complete him for #2.

Fidel
07-29-2002, 05:08 PM
Thatīs a great idea grbh.
3. Kobe

Drbio
07-29-2002, 05:57 PM
1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Showbe

turbo.mav
07-29-2002, 06:08 PM
*sighs* ok showbe 3rd.

MFFL
07-29-2002, 06:14 PM
3 - Dirk

Hoopsmeister
07-29-2002, 06:18 PM
Dirk

I don't really think he's the 3rd best player, but I can't think of anyone besides Shaq or Duncan that I would clearly take over him. I definitely take him over Shobe.

MFFL
07-29-2002, 06:21 PM
My view is that unless a smaller player is CLEARLY better than a bigger player, then you go for the big dude.

Bayliss
07-29-2002, 07:26 PM
I'd take him over Kobe too. Because I think he has more potential than Kobe. However, Kobe right now is better than Dirk.

Dirk's top 5, but he is not number 3.

LakerMania
07-29-2002, 07:29 PM
1.Shaq
2.Duncan
3.Kobe

OzMavs
07-29-2002, 07:36 PM
Kobe.

Rhylan
07-29-2002, 07:43 PM
I want to say Dirk, but I have to go with Kobe here. Dirk next.

3. Kobe

MFFL
07-29-2002, 07:48 PM
4 - DIRK

Rhylan
07-29-2002, 08:09 PM
4. Dirk!!

OzMavs
07-29-2002, 08:10 PM
4. Dirk Diggler

Bayliss
07-29-2002, 08:31 PM
4. Dirk

LakerMania
07-29-2002, 09:38 PM
4.T-Mac...........with no back problems

(I was going to put Dirk @ 5)

MFFL
07-29-2002, 09:47 PM
That gives Dirk 5 votes for #4 - four votes at 4 and Hoopsmeister who voted with me at 3.

5 - Garnett

LakerMania
07-29-2002, 09:57 PM
5.Tmac

OzMavs
07-29-2002, 09:58 PM
5. Kidd

Bayliss
07-29-2002, 10:04 PM
5. Bibby


















































Joke!

My real vote goes to:
5. McGrady

DTL
07-29-2002, 10:23 PM
#5 - T-Mac (that makes 4 votes, if i'm not mistaken)

Drbio
07-29-2002, 10:51 PM
6- Garnett

MFFL
07-29-2002, 11:17 PM
6 - Garnett

Murphy3
07-29-2002, 11:29 PM
AI

Murphy3
07-29-2002, 11:30 PM
6-garnett. AI was just a joke

LakerMania
07-29-2002, 11:37 PM
6.Garnett

Just211
07-29-2002, 11:39 PM
6. Pierce

DTL
07-30-2002, 12:04 AM
6. KG -- that finishes #6

DTL
07-30-2002, 12:05 AM
#7 Pierce

Hoopsmeister
07-30-2002, 12:30 AM
Pierce

turbo.mav
07-30-2002, 12:51 AM
5. T-mac
6. Garnett

Murphy3
07-30-2002, 11:49 AM
7-webber

Drbio
07-30-2002, 12:28 PM
RECAP.....

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Drama Queen
4. Dirk
5. TMac
6. Garnett
7. Pierce

(3 votes Pierce, 1 Webber)...update the list whoever is the deciding vote please...

MFFL
07-30-2002, 03:43 PM
Webber





<< RECAP.....

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Drama Queen
4. Dirk
5. TMac
6. Garnett
7. Pierce

(3 votes Pierce, 2 Webber)...update the list whoever is the deciding vote please... >>

FilthyFinMavs
07-30-2002, 04:38 PM
7. AI

When a 6 foot 150 pound player can average 30 points a game he has my vote tho I rank him higher than this. I Think alot of people dont like AI because of his personal problems off court but I put that aside and look at what he does for philly.

LakerMania
07-30-2002, 05:42 PM
7.JKidd

MFFL
07-30-2002, 05:42 PM
7th place
4 votes Pierce - three votes at #7 and Just211 who voted for him at #6
2 votes Webber
1 vote AI
1 vote Kidd

Murphy3
07-30-2002, 07:19 PM
alot of people don't like AI because many players could do what he does in philly more effectively and efficiently than whathe does in philly

sorry, but 40% is pretty sh*tty

grbh
07-30-2002, 08:08 PM
Pierce

FilthyFinMavs
07-30-2002, 08:19 PM
<< alot of people don't like AI because many players could do what he does in philly more effectively and efficiently than whathe does in philly

sorry, but 40% is pretty sh*tty >>



Name a player who is Iversons size who can do waht IVerson has done for philly? Regardless if u dont like him which that basically what it is for u to only bring up the argument of 40% shooting from the field. AI is listed 6 foot and 165 but AI wishes those were his size. I see AI as about 5 10 aroudn 150. The guy is doing what Spud Webb or Damon Stoudmire never could do. Being a short guy and putting the game on ur shoulders. And plus he is an ex MVP.

Murphy3
07-30-2002, 08:31 PM
size has nothing to do with it... him scoring 25 points compared to fin scoring 25 points in a game in the same amount of shots.. guess what, just because AI is shorter and might have had to work harder to get his points means absolutely nothing.... they came up with the same result.


now, let's look a little closer. AI may score 28 a game and shoot 40%.. well, guess what, that percentage sucks ass. him being short doesn't make it any more effective or efficient.

there's several players that would do more in the same situation than what AI does.

i'm right, you're wrong.

I know it's just your &quot;opinion&quot;, but your &quot;opinion&quot; is wrong

MFFL
07-30-2002, 09:00 PM
<< Pierce >>



That gives the 7th place to Pierce.

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Drama Queen
4. Dirk
5. TMac
6. Garnett
7. Pierce

#8

2 votes Webber
1 vote AI
1 vote Kidd

FilthyFinMavs
07-30-2002, 09:28 PM
<< size has nothing to do with it... him scoring 25 points compared to fin scoring 25 points in a game in the same amount of shots.. guess what, just because AI is shorter and might have had to work harder to get his points means absolutely nothing.... they came up with the same result.


now, let's look a little closer. AI may score 28 a game and shoot 40%.. well, guess what, that percentage sucks ass. him being short doesn't make it any more effective or efficient.

there's several players that would do more in the same situation than what AI does.

i'm right, you're wrong.

I know it's just your &quot;opinion&quot;, but your &quot;opinion&quot; is wrong >>




Your starting to piss me off with this im always right and everyoen else is wrong thought. Yes having a harder time to score your points does make a huge difference. It isnt that Allen isnt a good shooter its because he drives to the whole and has to take harder shots. Everyone knows that AI is the man on the team and he is gonna be the shooter in tough times. Down here in Dallas no one knows becuase Finlely could take it, Dirk, NAsh, or even Raef or Nick. AI is the one who is gonna take the shot. Maybe because I play ball I see how hard it is for AI to play being a shorter guy compared to everyone. Im right your wrong blah blah blah.

Drbio
07-30-2002, 09:29 PM
Webber

Just211
07-30-2002, 09:35 PM
KIDD

DTL
07-30-2002, 09:39 PM
#8 - Webber
he's really got sweet game. if only he had heart, too....

Drbio
07-30-2002, 09:46 PM
That gives 8 to Webber...

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Drama Queen
4. Dirk
5. TMac
6. Garnett
7. Pierce
8. Webber

9. (2 votes Kidd, 1 for AI)

Hoopsmeister
07-31-2002, 12:24 AM
AI

DTL
07-31-2002, 12:35 AM
Al who?

DTL
07-31-2002, 12:35 AM
#9 - Kidd

MFFL
07-31-2002, 06:43 AM
Kidd

Murphy3
07-31-2002, 07:37 AM
kidd

Murphy3
07-31-2002, 07:39 AM
1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Drama Queen
4. Dirk
5. TMac
6. Garnett
7. Pierce
8. Webber
9. Kidd

(2 votes AI)

Murphy3
07-31-2002, 07:40 AM
sorry filthy, we've already established this in several debates.. AI is overrated

just thought i'd let you know

Drbio
07-31-2002, 08:56 AM
murph- don't argue with the less intelligent.

djb
07-31-2002, 08:58 AM
Ease up doc. It's ok for you to not agree with him but let's not let it spill out into other threads.

Murphy3
07-31-2002, 09:21 AM
ease up doc..being a hard-ass is my job

FilthyFinMavs
07-31-2002, 11:13 AM
<< murph- don't argue with the less intelligent. >>



Its okay Dj he can take shots and be a bigger joke then he is if he wants. He starts the namecaling and continues too. But im not trippin because I know that Doc is the type of person that if u dont agree with him he wines and bitches.

FilthyFinMavs
07-31-2002, 11:15 AM
<< sorry filthy, we've already established this in several debates.. AI is overrated

just thought i'd let you know >>



I think it really comes down too if u like Iverson. I asked a friend of mine yesterday did he think Iverson was a top 10 player and he said well it matters if u like the guy but I dont so no. Im a fan of AI so maybe thats why I think he is a top 10 player.

Murphy3
07-31-2002, 11:37 AM
AI might be a 10-12 guy

MFFL
07-31-2002, 11:58 AM
10 - AI

FilthyFinMavs
07-31-2002, 11:59 AM
YAAAAYYYY maybe AI makes top 10 lol.

MFFL
07-31-2002, 01:54 PM
1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Drama Queen
4. Dirk
5. TMac
6. Garnett
7. Pierce
8. Webber
9. Kidd
10. ???

(3 votes AI)

turbo.mav
07-31-2002, 02:45 PM
I'm gonna say Payton for 10

Drbio
07-31-2002, 02:56 PM
Payton



and I will no longer argue with that dumbass

Murphy3
07-31-2002, 03:16 PM
payton

MFFL
07-31-2002, 03:38 PM
1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Drama Queen
4. Dirk
5. TMac
6. Garnett
7. Pierce
8. Webber
9. Kidd
10. ???

3 votes AI
3 votes Payton

aexchange
07-31-2002, 03:42 PM
close call.

but payton brings it night in and night out, and he doesnt need 35 shots to help his team win.

i like ai, but i like payton more.

PAYTON, g-money

MavKikiNYC
07-31-2002, 03:46 PM
<< 1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Drama Queen
4. Dirk
5. TMac
6. Garnett
7. Pierce
8. Webber
9. Kidd
10. ???

3 votes AI
3 votes Payton >>



Didn't you vote for SheWebb twice?

MFFL
07-31-2002, 04:12 PM
I didn't but when I added the totals for a second time I got 4 votes for Webb

Murphy3
Elite Member
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:49 AM (NEW!)

7-webber
===
MFFL
Diamond Member
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:43 PM (NEW!)

Webber
===
Drbio
Guru
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:29 PM (NEW!)

Webber
===
DTL
Diamond Member
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:39 PM (NEW!)

#8 - Webber

LakerMania
07-31-2002, 04:22 PM
#10 Payton
#11 AI

MFFL
07-31-2002, 04:43 PM
Do we have an additional vote for Webb at 8?

MFFL
07-31-2002, 04:49 PM
Payton is #10

AI has 4 votes for #11

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FilthyFinMavs
Member
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:38 PM (NEW!)

7. AI
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Hoopsmeister
Platinum Member
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:24 PM (NEW!)

AI
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MFFL
Diamond Member
Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:58 AM (NEW!)

10 - AI
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LakerMania
Junior Member
Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:22 PM (NEW!)

#10 Payton
#11 AI

Drbio
07-31-2002, 04:54 PM
The point was for us to generate a top 10. AI is out of luck. And NOT in the top 10. Even though he has to be close.

Murphy3
07-31-2002, 07:23 PM
i'm so proud of this board for keeping the highly overrated AI out of the top 10.

it's cool that we're not sucked in by the East Coast media bias

FilthyFinMavs
07-31-2002, 08:07 PM
<< i'm so proud of this board for keeping the highly overrated AI out of the top 10.

it's cool that we're not sucked in by the East Coast media bias >>




How is AI overrated? Do u mean becuase he has a lot of fans that he is overatted? I never hear Espn or NBC or any sports station say AI is a top 10 player. I dont understand what u mean by that but anyway I think he is a top 10 player. And if u want to know overrated Webber is ur man. Terrific player but he is overrated. I guess ur just trying to piss me off Murph lol but im not that much of a AI fan to get mad lol. Now if u said something about Finley or Dirk thats a different storie.

Murphy3
07-31-2002, 08:15 PM
AI won an MVP award.. that was b.s.

overrated...

OzMavs
07-31-2002, 09:05 PM
12. Carter

FilthyFinMavs
07-31-2002, 10:06 PM
12. Baron Davis

OzMavs
08-03-2002, 03:26 AM
Can we revive this?

mavs_afroman
08-03-2002, 05:04 PM
12. Baron Davis

Just211
08-03-2002, 05:11 PM
Davis



1.Shaq
2.Duncan
3.Kobe
4.Dirk
5.T-Mac
6.KG
7.Pierce
8.WEbber
9.Kidd
10.Payton
11.AI
12.Baron