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ÜberDirk
10-14-2002, 02:06 PM
Dirk and Nash got 3.8% each of the GM votes for "Best Pure shooter"
Dirk was also on the list for "Best Basketball Instincts" and Nash for "Best Ballhandling"

Drbio
10-14-2002, 02:07 PM
Reggie Miller

nowitzki_prophecy
10-14-2002, 02:07 PM
best pure shooter is without a doubt reggie miller,all the way,than you can call steve and dirk and ray allen.

Drbio
10-14-2002, 02:09 PM
you were too slow NP...i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

nowitzki_prophecy
10-14-2002, 02:11 PM
lol,yea,next time drbio,i'll be lurkin.

ÜberDirk
10-14-2002, 02:13 PM
It wasn't a question guy's i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

No, but the GM's said Ray Allen was number one, followed by Peja, Reggie, Houston then tie Dirk, Nash and Curry

ÜberDirk
10-14-2002, 02:14 PM
Reggie can nail him, but I have never thought of his shot as "pure" it's a bit of a line drive. I thought Dennis Scott had a extremely PURE shot.

nowitzki_prophecy
10-14-2002, 02:16 PM
now thats just stupid,steve has a better three than peja,much better,with allen its closer,but peja???? come'on.

ÜberDirk
10-14-2002, 02:21 PM
Peja's 3 is pretty good.

Chiwas
10-14-2002, 02:45 PM
Nájera. He had his daughter Isabelle in 9 months after wedding.

Drbio
10-14-2002, 02:48 PM
Reggie Miller is the games best shooter for players who are active.

Historically I go with Pistol Pete Maravich at #1 and Larry Legend at #2....Reggie would be in that top 5-10 list for sure IMO.

nowitzki_prophecy
10-14-2002, 03:34 PM
historicly i'll go with jerry west.

ÜberDirk
10-14-2002, 03:37 PM
did you guy's ever see Scott in Orlando? That year 95-96, he was awesome, set record for 3's in a game (11) and season (267) Those numbers are unbreakable!

nowitzki_prophecy
10-14-2002, 03:46 PM
11 is breakable,i think redd nailed 8 against us or something like that,gets close.

ÜberDirk
10-14-2002, 03:48 PM
yea, 11 is I guess, just hard to. But I don't know about 267.

aexchange
10-14-2002, 03:57 PM
<< did you guy's ever see Scott in Orlando? That year 95-96, he was awesome, set record for 3's in a game (11) and season (267) Those numbers are unbreakable! >>



the 3 pt line was also a lot closer that year. its a skewed record.

scott is nothing more than a glorified bench warmer.

ocelot_ark
10-14-2002, 04:15 PM
Hey Doc...I thought Pistol Pete had a Iversonesqu shooting percentage? I just thought I had heard that before. Correct me if I'm wrong...or too young! i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

nowitzki_prophecy
10-14-2002, 04:18 PM
naaa,im not doc but i still gotta take this,pete got good percantages,not amazin but good,on the otherheand,j.west was amazing.

Drbio
10-14-2002, 04:19 PM
Pistol Pete rarely missed as I recall. One of the best shooters I have ever seen.

nowitzki_prophecy
10-14-2002, 04:27 PM
he wasnt better than west!thats what im saying,wesy was something else,simply something else.
he was in a different level than anybody else.

Drbio
10-14-2002, 04:30 PM
perusing back into this thread I see nowhere that it said that....but it is your opinion. Many may likely bring up names that are not currently listed here.

pepperfletch
10-14-2002, 05:42 PM
Pistol Pete without a doubt the best, better than west...Oscar Robinson the big O would be right there as well.

ÜberDirk
10-14-2002, 05:48 PM
&quot;the 3 pt line was also a lot closer that year. its a skewed record.

scott is nothing more than a glorified bench warmer.&quot;

LMAO, You most of NEVER watched him play, or at least never watched him play b/f he came here, lol! Yea, he set about 5 ACC records, including leading Georgia Tech to Final Four, avg. over 27 PPG IN HIS JUNIOR YEAR OF COLLEGE! For a big time college, 27 ppg is insane! He started about half his career, so that's wrong. Despite a few awful years, still has a career ppg over 12. He avg. 17.5 and 19.5 ppg in spereate years. do bench warmers avg. near 20 ppg?????? He nailed over 100 3's in about 6, 7 years. Even w/ a shorter line, 267 is A LOT! He finished runner up in 3 point contest. Im sorry, but I was a big Scott fan, and your comment made you sound a lot stupider then you are, because I know your a smart guy.

Drbio
10-14-2002, 06:10 PM
Excellent choice on the original &quot;Big O&quot; pepperfletch...excellent choice!

Fidel
10-14-2002, 06:38 PM
Nash and Dirk should have gotten some more votes, Houston and Curry none, they don´t have the stats to go with their shooting technique. Also guys like Steve Smith, John Barry and Piatkowski should have made the list.

ÜberDirk
10-14-2002, 06:50 PM
100!% agreement fidel. Houston is overatted. Where's the love for either Barry or Pia, Pia can shoot!

nowitzki_prophecy
10-15-2002, 09:20 AM
if you put oscar than gervin should get some room too.

aexchange
10-15-2002, 09:56 AM
<< &quot;the 3 pt line was also a lot closer that year. its a skewed record.

scott is nothing more than a glorified bench warmer.&quot;

LMAO, You most of NEVER watched him play, or at least never watched him play b/f he came here, lol! Yea, he set about 5 ACC records, including leading Georgia Tech to Final Four, avg. over 27 PPG IN HIS JUNIOR YEAR OF COLLEGE! For a big time college, 27 ppg is insane! He started about half his career, so that's wrong. Despite a few awful years, still has a career ppg over 12. He avg. 17.5 and 19.5 ppg in spereate years. do bench warmers avg. near 20 ppg?????? He nailed over 100 3's in about 6, 7 years. Even w/ a shorter line, 267 is A LOT! He finished runner up in 3 point contest. Im sorry, but I was a big Scott fan, and your comment made you sound a lot stupider then you are, because I know your a smart guy. >>



what has scott accomplished in the nba besides shooting 3's? nothing. if shooting threes makes you a &quot;pure shooter&quot; then fine you can consider him that, but even when he played with the mavs he stunk.

kurt thomas averaged over 32 pts a game his senior year of college, that doesnt make him a great pure shooter. i stand by what i said, scott is a bench warmer and nothing special. i'm just saying if you want to point out that he made 267 threes in 95-96, i will point out that the line is over 2 ft closer, and about the same distance as the college line. i believe danny ferry also had career highs that year in 3 pt shots, and nobody mentions him as a great pure shooter.

ÜberDirk
10-15-2002, 04:38 PM
Yes, but danny ferry doesn't have a 40% CAREER 3 PT % OR OVER 1000 3'S!!!

aexchange
10-15-2002, 05:09 PM
<< Yes, but danny ferry doesn't have a 40% CAREER 3 PT % OR OVER 1000 3'S!!! >>



oh lord. i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif

like i said the large majority of the time he racked up his 3pters were when the line was moved in 2 ft from its current position.

i pulled up some numbers of the greatest shooter of all time dennis scott

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dennis_scott/index.html?nav=page

seems our man is a career 41%FG shooter and a career 40%FG shooter.

if you take out his 3pt makes he only shot 43% from the field from under the 3pt. line.

class...what does this tell us?

i don't know, but i can tell you, it means hes not the best PURE shooter of all time.

ÜberDirk
10-15-2002, 08:30 PM
i never said best, but top 20.

Drbio
10-15-2002, 10:44 PM
may be splitting hairs here UberDirk, but you said his records couldn't be broken...to me that indicates your calling him the best ever.

Just a thought.

ÜberDirk
10-16-2002, 06:01 PM
I still don't think 267 can be broken, closer 3 point line or not. do you?

aexchange
10-16-2002, 06:04 PM
when you launch close to 650 3's, then yes i think its possible.

ESPECIALLY if the line is moved 2 ft closer. Hell, I think Dirk, Fin, or nash could do it. And thats just on the mavs.

ÜberDirk
10-16-2002, 06:43 PM
if you think any of them, even my man dirk, would of had a chance at 267, your a moron. p.s., mike played that year and mike wouldn't of got more then 150 3's! Nash, mabye 190, dirk mabye 200-210. None would of gotten 267. There were hundreds of other guy's that year, not one of them got close to 267. P.s., yes, 3-d led the nba in 3's that year, BUT DIDN'T led the nba in 3's attempted, also shot 41% from downton, higher then mike ever has.

ÜberDirk
10-16-2002, 06:45 PM
and if you think all these people could do it, why did NO nba player come close in 95-96????

Royalty_Inc
10-16-2002, 11:00 PM
I like the Oscar call too...Oscar Schmidt!

Remember that Magic and Bird both called him the best shooter they had ever seen.

How about a Mark Price note...I hated the guy but you gotta look at his three pt, ft, and fg percentage.

As for Pistol Pete I find his percentage at .441 according to http://www.corpcomm.net/~gjjensen/jesse/pistol.html

The Big O's stats can be found at
http://www.thebigo.com/pages/news/stats.html

The Royal One

aexchange
10-16-2002, 11:44 PM
<< and if you think all these people could do it, why did NO nba player come close in 95-96???? >>



because nobody is STUPID ENOUGH to launch 650 3 point shots!

if you are going to call me a moron, i would highly suggest you look up the following:

&quot;those who live in glass houses, ought not throw stones&quot;

as well as

&quot;if that isnt the pot calling the kettle black.&quot;

MavKikiNYC
10-17-2002, 06:46 AM
Y'all've gotten this far and nobody has mentioned Steve Kerr?

Incredible.

ÜberDirk
10-17-2002, 01:42 PM
Im sorry, but how do you equate your numbers??? LMAO! How is 628 650??? LOL! And p.s. smart one, actually two guy's that year attemped MORE 3 POINTERS THEN SCOTT, and neither had close to 267! Done, you lose.

aexchange
10-17-2002, 02:59 PM
uberdirk,

its not smart to insult people in general, but its even dumber to insult moderators.

consider this a warning.

aexchange
10-17-2002, 03:14 PM
dirk shot 40% from 3 this year, 48% from below the arc. finley shot 34% beyond. nash shot 44% beyond.

i think its safe to say that with the line moved in 2 ft, dirk could easily eclipse dennis scotts record. nash could do it NOW with the current line, and finley might have a chance as well. finley shot 40% from 3 during the world championships which is basically the same as the nba line. as a side note, paul pierce shot 50% from 3 during the WC's.

please, quit insulting people. if i wanted crap out of you, i would squeeze your head.

in addition, even if 2 more people attempted more threes than dennis scott, this doesnt magically make him one of the best pure shooters EVER. in fact, it makes them stupid. but just to amuse me, give me the link that shows what 2 people launched more threes than dennis scott.

http://www.nba.com/history/3pfg/19951996.html

ÜberDirk
10-17-2002, 04:58 PM
Warning? LOL. Im sorry, but is there a rule that say's you can't ARGUE OR DEBATE with a Mod???? Chill, im not insulting you, though you are me. Were just having a debate, no? And Im not going to argue anymore, but IMO, 3-D was a great shooter, one of the best shooters ever, my opinion only. No hard feelings, ok?

FINtastic
10-19-2002, 02:57 AM
How about &quot;Sweet D&quot; Walter Davis AKA &quot;The Man with the Velvet Touch.&quot; Had a great FG pct., and a sweet looking jumper.

MFFL
11-02-2002, 08:10 AM
<< As for Pistol Pete I find his percentage at .441 according to http://www.corpcomm.net/~gjjensen/jesse/pistol.html >>



But Pistol Pette shot an amazing .667 on three pointers.

There is a good page at http://www.nba.com/history/players/index.html with a lot of the great old-timers.

Drbio
11-02-2002, 09:23 AM
Pistol Pete was indisputable greatness.