View Full Version : Poll: Who has MVP?
10-26-2002, 10:05 AM
Who do u guys think is gonna get the MVP?
10-26-2002, 12:45 PM
I wouldn't vote for him, but you might want to add t-mac to your thread.
10-26-2002, 03:13 PM
10-26-2002, 03:14 PM
This year it is probably Shaq or Duncan.
10-26-2002, 04:07 PM
I dont know how I forgot T-Mac, I must have been daydreaming, my bad, I dont think Shaq can get it tho, his toe will only enable him to play one or two more years, his toe is a big obstacle. He will get injured a lot more then he used to. Hes getting old too, his lower body cant hold his upper body much longer, big men over 300 and 7'1 cant play for more than 10, hes already at 10, and he must be tired of getting hacked
Shaq, no doubt. He seems to be in better shape than last year, even though he'll miss the early part of the season because of the late-summer toe surgery.
10-26-2002, 07:20 PM
People, shaq has NO chance at MVP! He is going to miss like 4 weeks, that's not counting more games he could miss throughout the year. You need 75 + games for MVP. shaq is looking at 60-70 games at most.
11-01-2002, 10:45 PM
gotta be Timmy D, hes all around
I believe Shaq has a great chance this year. Imagine this scenario.
Lakers play first 15 without Shaq and are 6-9
Shaq returns in last 67 Lakers are 48-19....
Isn't that possible, and won't that make Shaq look great when it comes time to vote for the MVP.
11-02-2002, 07:50 PM
Good point grbh.
I would like Nowitzki has it.
11-03-2002, 03:36 PM
PLZ tell me who voted for KG and CWebb. I would like to know who is being incompitent
06-04-2003, 07:08 PM
From this post back, was from the start of the season, looks like some ppl were right and picked Tim Duncan, who where u guys? KG surprised me, and Dirk was a no show
06-04-2003, 09:45 PM
I had Timmy.
one long blue sock
06-06-2003, 12:17 AM
Dang Loveed, your pressing the crap out of the reply button.
06-06-2003, 12:52 PM
I would like to know who is being incompitent
Any PG who can't remember the plays....and has a hard time with spelling !
06-06-2003, 12:55 PM
I think it will be Dirk, cuz he is improving lots every year> ever since he was a rookie is has improved every year> This is one Don Nelson has been able too improve > My Pick : Dirk Nowitzki
02-19-2004, 03:23 PM
I think the NBA's page went too far today with this:
Can KG overshadow fellow MVP candidate Peja Stojakovic?
Big Boy Laroux
02-19-2004, 05:55 PM
peja definitely is in contention for MVP, although distant behind KG and Duncan.
02-19-2004, 11:17 PM
KG deserves the award this year..he is night in and night out the most valuable player in the league. Timmy will give him a good run...but Id really like to see KG get it
02-19-2004, 11:35 PM
I do not see any reason why Dirk deserves this season. He has not improved the players around him much. He has not shown any improvement as he has done all these years. He has been more than willing to just stay on the perimeter and just take the threes. I feel that Dirk's game has gone south this season. I actually thought last season that if Dirk gets some help in Rebounding his scoring will improve.
That brings another point that the Big Three spent too much time trying to get Antawn and Antoine into the offense instead of letting them understand that " We are the Big Three Here and you guys need to complement us since we understand the offense better".
02-19-2004, 11:42 PM
Peja is way overrated, he is not as productive as he seems or as the media is trying to make us think. Look at these numbers; it doesn't surprise me a bit to not see him listed:
Current Roland Ratings leaders for NBA 2003-04
as of 2/09/04
[Minimum: 950 minutes played] Rank Player Team On Court +/- Off Court +/- Roland Rating
1 Kidd NJN +8.3 -13.8 +22.1
2 Garnett MIN +8.8 -13.0 +21.8
3 Jefferson NJN +6.2 -9.1 +15.4
4 Cassell MIN +8.5 -6.0 +14.5
5 Collins NJN +9.3 -4.7 +14.0
6 Davis NOH +2.7 -9.8 +12.5
7 Cardinal GSW +5.9 -6.4 +12.3
8 Martin NJN +7.2 -4.1 +11.2
9 Kirilenko UTA +2.0 -9.0 +11.0
10 Foster IND +10.1 -0.1 +10.3
11 Miller SAC +9.6 -0.4 +10.0
12 O'Neal IND +7.5 -2.4 +9.9
13 Nowitzki DAL +6.2 -3.3 +9.4
14 Brown NOH +2.0 -7.4 +9.4
15 Hassell MIN +8.7 +0.1 +8.6
16 Artest IND +6.8 -1.7 +8.5
17 Nene DEN +4.9 -3.3 +8.2
18 McGrady ORL -4.1 -12.0 +7.9
19 O'Neal LAL +7.1 -0.7 +7.7
20 Divac SAC +10.5 +3.0 +7.5
21 Sprewell MIN +6.5 -0.9 +7.4
22 Francis HOU +4.2 -3.1 +7.4
23 Abdur-Rahim ATL -3.6 -10.8 +7.2
24 Jackson HOU +4.5 -2.7 +7.2
25 Boozer CLE -0.5 -7.4 +7.0
26 Miller IND +7.6 +0.6 +7.0
27 Hinrich CHI -4.1 -10.9 +6.8
28 Turkoglu SAS +10.3 +3.6 +6.7
29 Miller DEN +3.5 -3.0 +6.6
30 Butler MIA +0.8 -5.7 +6.5
Current Raw +/- Leaders:
B.Miller +366, Garnett +364, Cassell +323, Duncan +314, Kidd +308
This has all the makings of a classic duel as for the fourth week in a row we've seen the leadership switch back and forth between the two top guns -- Jason Kidd and Kevin Garnett. Kidd and the Nets are doing just fine with the new coach, but given Garnett was the runaway leader in this rating for the 2002-03 season he must be regarded as the man to beat.
Both players bring several teammates into the top thirty, and we may publish the adjusted ratings (that take into account the other players on the court) as a change of pace one week soon, as things do change quite significantly in how some of the 2nd/3rd stars on a team are regarded.
Last season's number two, Dirk Nowitzki is at #13 and seems out of contention for the overall best on court effect. Meanwhile former top threat Baron Davis still stakes a claim to best non-Net/T'Wolf, with the unheralded Brian Cardinal also making noise (and now starting) for the Warriors.
The lowest rated "Roland Rating" player with 950+ minutes? It's still Antoine Walker who has a respectable +1.0 plus minus per 48 minutes on court, but the Mavs are +12.2 per 48 when he's off the floor, yielding a -11.2 number!!
Some players who don't currently qualify on minutes played include Karl Malone (at +12.1), Frank Williams of the Knicks (+9.4), Corie Blount of the Bulls (+8.9), Kedrick Brown of the Celtics (+8.8), and Kyle Korver of the Sixers (+8.0).
While the numbers are fun to look at in a league wide basis, the best use is on a team level where you can assess which players are producing and which aren't in the climate and roster of a specific squad.
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