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OutletPass
02-24-2003, 10:31 AM
Western Conference
W L PCT GB HOME ROAD EAST WEST PF PA STREAK L 10
1 Dal. 44 12 .786 - 24-4 20-8 21-3 23-9 102.7 93.3 Won 6 7-3
2 Sac. 39 18 .684 5 23-5 16-13 14-6 25-12 100.8 94.0 Won 3 6-4
3 SA 38 17 .691 5 21-4 17-13 14-5 24-12 94.4 89.8 Won 1 9-1
4 Port 35 20 .636 8 17-9 18-11 16-6 19-14 95.2 92.5 Lost 2 6-4
5 Minn 36 21 .632 8 24-5 12-16 13-10 23-11 97.5 95.7 Won 3 9-1
6 Utah 33 22 .600 10 21-9 12-13 12-9 21-13 96.1 91.7 Won 1 6-4
7 LAL 30 25 .545 13 19-10 11-15 10-11 20-14 98.9 97.2 Won 4 8-2
8 Pho 30 26 .536 14 21-7 9-19 14-9 16-17 94.8 94.5 Lost 3 4-6
Hou 29 26 .527 14 20-10 9-16 11-8 18-18 93.1 91.4 Won 1 4-6
GS 26 30 .464 18 17-12 9-18 14-6 12-24 101.0 101.6 Won 2 6-4
Sea 23 31 .426 20 12-12 11-19 11-14 12-17 91.4 92.8 Lost 1 3-7
LAC 19 35 .352 24 11-18 8-17 8-14 11-21 92.3 96.0 Lost 1 3-7
Mem 16 38 .296 27 12-15 4-23 8-8 8-30 95.5 100.7 Lost 2 3-7
Denver 12 44 .214 32 9-18 3-26 4-16 8-28 81.8 90.5 Lost 8 2-8

WE HAVE 26 GAMES LEFT

* Standings are updated with the completion of each game.
x- Clinched playoff berth.
y- Clinched division title.
z- Clinched conference title.

Seeding tiebreakers
The top eight teams in each conference qualify for the playoffs. The division winner with the best record in each conference is seeded No. 1, the other division winner is seeded No. 2 and the remaining six teams are seeded Nos. 3 - 8 according to their won-lost records. (Home-court advantage in all playoff series is determined by better won-lost record, not higher seeding.)
In the event two or more teams are tied in the standings, a series of tiebreakers are applied to determine which team receives the higher seeding.

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Three-Team Tiebreaker
1. Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied
2. Highest winning percentage in conference games
3. Highest winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Highest winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Highest point differential between points scored and points allowed

ames7
02-24-2003, 10:56 PM
As of 02/24, the West looks like this:
1.) Mavs
2.) Kings
3.) Spurs
4.) Wolves
5.) Blazers
6.) Jazz
7.) Lakers
8.) Rockets
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9.) Suns

So now that, as the DMN put it, Kobe has dragged the Lakers kicking & screaming all the way up to the 7 spot, it's looking like a foregone conclusion that they will stay there, if not climb even higher. Meanwhile, the Rockets & Suns take turns sucking. What do you guys think the final standings will look like?

MavsFanFinley
02-24-2003, 11:31 PM
01. Mavs
02. Kings
03. Spurs
04. Minnesota
05. Portland
06. Lakers
07. Utah
08. Houston

I think the top three are locked. Unless major injury occurs, those will be the top 3 teams.

Portland and Minnesota will be the 4th and 5th seeds, but it's anyone's guess who takes what. I'm going with Minnesota landing in 4th and Portland in 5th.

The highest the Lakers go will be the 6th seed. It looks more and more likely, imo, but Utah may hold them off. As of now, I go with Lakers in the 6th, and Utah in 7th.

For that final 8th playoff spot, I go with Houston. While both Houston and Phoenix have slumped after hot starts, I think Houston has the momentum going in the final stretch.

LRB
02-25-2003, 01:46 AM
Look for big trouble in Lala land if Shobe keeps getting all the attention and praise for getting the Fakers in the playoff picture. The Big Lardass will not take this one laying down, metaphorically speaking of course. i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

MavsFanFinley
02-27-2003, 07:27 PM
Bump...Can I change my answer a bit? It's more wishful thinking, but has me hoping.

Right now, the Suns are holding the 8th playoff spot by a half game over the Rockets.

They (Rockets) are currently down 20 at the half to the Wizards.

Now, Golden State is on a nice run, and only 3 games behind Phoenix and assuming the Rockets lose, they'll only be 2 games behind the Rockets.

So, I'm hoping that not only do the Warriors overtake the Rockets, but the Suns as well for the final playoff spot.

Of course, I'm hoping for this and going on this without looking at the rest of the schedule for each team.

ames7
02-28-2003, 02:20 PM
As of 03/27, the West now looks like this:
1.) Mavs
2.) Kings (3 1/2 back)
3.) Spurs (4 back)
4.) Portland
5.) Wolves
6.) Utah
7.) Lakers
8.) Suns
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9.) Houston

Personally, I think we will hang on, but it's going to be close. I also think Houston's getting tired/injured. LA is just one back from Utah & they're streaking. So here's my new prediction:

1.) Mavs
2.) Kings
3.) Spurs
4.) Wolves
5.) Blazers
6.) Lakers
7.) Utah
8.) Suns

Does anyone think Sacto or the Spurs will actually catch us?

MavsFanFinley
02-28-2003, 03:28 PM
<< Does anyone think Sacto or the Spurs will actually catch us? >>



I don't think the Spurs will. But, winning the last two games against them would be icing.

As for the Kings, they could do it if we have any more slides.

Chiwas
02-28-2003, 05:07 PM
<<

<< Does anyone think Sacto or the Spurs will actually catch us? >>



I don't think the Spurs will. But, winning the last two games against them would be icing.

As for the Kings, they could do it if we have any more slides. >>

Knowing Nelson, I have a huge doubt about Mavs grabbing the #1 seed. I know that Dallas can keep easily the #1 seed with the present players and the experience gained, but Nelson is a very strong factor that could impede it. Just remember the last season. And the underdog behavior never disappears: ask a dog. The counterbalance could be the players and maybe Cuban.

MavKikiNYC
02-28-2003, 07:13 PM
Chiwas, hombre, qu&eacute; te ha pasado? Te ves bien diferente.

Kevink00012
03-01-2003, 04:39 PM
<<

<< Does anyone think Sacto or the Spurs will actually catch us? >>



I don't think the Spurs will. But, winning the last two games against them would be icing.

As for the Kings, they could do it if we have any more slides. >>


The way things are going now either of these teams could catch us. The Mavs need to get back to the way they were playing before this two game slide. I am amazed that the Lakers are this far up in the standings. It would be nice to stay in first place to avoid them in the first round. This year's playoffs should be very exciting. Our remaining games against the Kings and Spurs are a huge part of being able to hang onto the first seed.

ames7
03-03-2003, 01:38 PM
Well this is interesting. I read this Hoopsworld.com article (http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_2957.shtml) about how Houston &amp; Phoenix have both been sucking of late, &amp; suddenly realized just how close GS is. I mean, I knew they were surging, but I had no idea they were only ONE back from Houston. Man, they could make the 8-spot yet. Here's the West as of 03/03:

1.) Mavs
2.) Spurs (3.5 back)
3.) Sacto
4.) Portland
5.) Wolves
6.) Utah
7.) Lakers
8.) Phoenix
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9.) Rockets (1 back)
10.) Warriors (1 back)

The thing is, the Rockets have lost 3 in a row &amp; the Warriors have won 5. It's like Houston doesn't WANT to go to the play-offs. Predictions for the 8-spot?

MavsFanFinley
03-03-2003, 07:07 PM
<< Predictions for the 8-spot? >>



Back on the 27th, I made noise about the Warriors &gt;possibly&lt; making a run for that 8th playoff spot. At the time, I was more hopeful, than believing.

I think they can do it, they're playing extremely well while the Suns and Rockets have slipped.

01. Mavericks
02. Kings
03. Spurs
04. Minnesota
05. Portland
06. Utah
07. Lakers
08. Warriors

ames7
03-09-2003, 02:13 AM
Bump. But also, I thought I should update. Here's the West as of 03/09:

1.) Mavs
2.) Sacto (4 1/2 back)
3.) SA (5 back)
4.) Portland
5.) Wolves
6.) Lakers
7.) Utah
8.) Phoenix
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9.) Houston (1 1/2 back)
10.) GS (3 1/2 back)

Well, Houston has (sort of) turned it around, won the last 2, while GS has lost the last 2. The Rockets have a better schedule this coming week (Clips, Bulls, b4 finally facing the Suns) than Phoenix (GS, Kings, &amp; Houston) or GS (Suns, Mavs, Sonics). As much as I kinda liked the Warriors, I don't think they're going to make it.

I'm becoming more &amp; more sure that the standings will remain more or less the same as they are now, w/the possible (I think less than 50% chance) change in the 8-spot (to Houston).

Kevink00012
03-09-2003, 09:53 AM
That's about what I figured only I think the Wolves will beat out the Blazers for the fourth spot.

ames7
03-09-2003, 01:19 PM
Yeah, I kinda forgot about that. That makes sense the way the Wolves are going. But either way, it doesn't change the first round. If we stay at 1, we still see the winner. Who would win that series, do you think? Wolves or Blazers?

MavsFanFinley
03-09-2003, 02:43 PM
It bums me about the Warriors, I was hoping they'd make it. But, they made their run too late in the season.

Next year they should be better.

LRB
03-09-2003, 03:50 PM
<< It bums me about the Warriors, I was hoping they'd make it. But, they made their run too late in the season.

Next year they should be better. >>



Don't give up on them yet MFF. They still have a shot, how be it not a very good shot, but a shot none the less. Much stranger things have happened.

ames7
03-17-2003, 02:03 PM
Bump again. Updated standings as of 03/17:
1.) Mavs
2.) Sacto (4.5 back)
3.) SA (2.5 back)
4.) Portland
5.) Wolves
6.) LA
7.) Utah
8.) Houston
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9.) Phoenix (1 back)
10.) GS (3.5 back)

I no longer believe Sacto is a threat to the #1 seed. It's us or SA, &amp; I'm still going w/us, for now, unless we lose Thursday. Minne is only a 1/2 game back from the Blazers now, so I think they will be at 4.

I don't know what to say about the 8-spot now. I think GS, sadly, is out of it, but both the Suns &amp; the Rockets have been ridiculously inconsistent all year long. Could go either way, but since the Rockets have been streaking lately, I'm going to say Houston.

NashFan1341
03-17-2003, 03:15 PM
I'd actually like to see Houston in that 8th spot. Beating them 4-0 in the regular season was nice, but a 4-0 sweep in the first round would be even more amusing. Assuming we get the #1 spot and all...I'd like to hear what Stevie Franchise would say after that series.

magichero
03-17-2003, 04:04 PM
I don't want to see Huston in the 8th spot. I hope they can go to 7th. If we meet them at the playoff, it is highly possible that we will get beaten by Huston severely. We might have more chances against Laker though.

Usually Lurkin
03-17-2003, 04:09 PM
<< I don't want to see Huston in the 8th spot. I hope they can go to 7th. If we meet them at the playoff, it is highly possible that we will get beaten by Huston severely. >>


hey, lay off the magic dragon, magichero.

ames7
03-17-2003, 04:19 PM
I don't know. Personally, I think we'd still be able to win, but being completely humiliated 4 times is a pretty good motivational factor. It'd be fun if we swept them, though. Stevie Franchise is an idiot.

NashFan1341
03-17-2003, 04:28 PM
<< I don't want to see Huston in the 8th spot. I hope they can go to 7th. If we meet them at the playoff, it is highly possible that we will get beaten by Huston severely. We might have more chances against Laker though. >>



What in the world...

What has shown you, in any recent history, that we would have a better chance against the Lakers than Houston? Let's see, 4-0 sweep against Houston &amp; one of the worst &amp; most humiliating losses against the Lakers. Gee, let me think...

I can see what you mean Ames, but after every game that Houston lost to the Mavs they kept saying &quot;They're not that good, and we'll get them next time&quot; and they were especially motivated the last 2 games and those were blowouts. As motivated as they are to beat us, I think the Mavs are just as equally, if not more, motivated to shut those lame big mouths up.

ames7
03-17-2003, 06:26 PM
This is true. I also agree that we do have the best chance against Houston than anyone else. No way will they be able to get to 7, btw. No chance in hell. It's 8, or nothing. If we stay at one, my choices for who we meet at 8 would be:

1.) Houston
2.) Phoenix
3.) GS

Why would anyone want to see the Lakers in the first round? Even if we win, it'd tire us out for the second round. The Rockets would be the best scenario.

magichero
03-17-2003, 09:00 PM
I hope I am wrong. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

ma-gaga
03-20-2003, 10:49 PM
do you know if they reseed in the playoffs?

The number one seed plays the lowest advancing to the next round?? Or are they automatically lined up with the 4-5 winner?

ames7
03-20-2003, 11:02 PM
They do NOT reseed. Winner of 1-8 will play the winner of 4-5. Winner of 2-7 plays the winner of 3-6. So the way it looks now, assuming we win the first round w/Houston/Phoenix, we'd play Wolves/Blazers in the second, &amp; won't see the Trio of Death until the WCF.

Lvubun1
03-21-2003, 09:02 PM
I would much rather see Houston then Phx. we have their #, while Phx is a horrible match-up since they have a great SF, who we can't defend.

OutletPass
03-26-2003, 01:24 PM
Bump for comparison to the 3/26 standings