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sa_mavs_fan
04-28-2003, 06:44 PM
Popovich wins, with a total of 281 pts. Don Nelson finished 8th with a total of 32 pts.

Coach of the year (http://www.nba.com/news/coy_030428.html)

Murphy3
04-28-2003, 06:59 PM
congrats pop...
nellie, you probably got more votes than you deserved..but, oh well
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seelenjaeger
04-28-2003, 08:29 PM
congrats pop ...

and 32 pts for what Nellie has achieved is poor, though many on this board are not man enough to admit

Drbio
04-28-2003, 08:37 PM
I really thought it was between nellie and Pop....tough to argue with pop.

Murphy3
04-28-2003, 09:58 PM
apparently the voters didn't believe nellie was deserving of the award either..sj..
i guess you could ask them if they're man enough to admit that they blew it as well

ariosto
04-28-2003, 10:58 PM
I think Pop's a good choice. I'm glad it went to the guy who won the West rather than someone who got a half-way decent record with a bad team. I don't really like the 'underdog' approach to this award.

seelenjaeger
04-29-2003, 07:48 AM
Just some numbers to back up Nellie should be AT LEAST top 5, if not top 3:

Last year: 57-25, 4th seed, league best 27-14 away.
This year: 60-22, tied for 1st (league), tied for league best 27-14 away. Franchise Best 14-0 season start.

2001/02 2002/03

Points scored 1 (105.2) 1 (103.0) stays
Points allowed 28 (101) 16 (95.2) improved
FG % 4 (.462) 7 (.453) down
FG % allowed 19 (.452) 11 (.438) improved
3 pt % 4 (.378) 4 (.381) stays (numbers up slightly)
3 pt % allowed 12 (.350) 9 (.340) up
FT % 1 (.806) 1 (.829) stays (numbers up)
Rebs 12 (42.5) 17 (42.146) down
Rebs allowed 25 (44.7) 28 (45.451) down
Assists 14 (22.1) 9 (22.402) up
Assists allowed 21 (22.7) 21 (21.72) stays (numbers up)
Steals 22 (7.1) 11 (8.11) up
Steals allowed 6 (7.2) 3 (6.671) up
TO 1 (11.7) 1 (11.573) stays
Opp TO 18 (13.7) 5 (16.049) up

So other than the failure to get the rebounding problems under control (Popeye Jones was a bust) Nellie has improved this team in every aspect of the game, and though we had more injury issues than last year (Fin, Nick, Raef) we played through and got off to a better start and overall season.

Sure, those are not drastic changes, but heīs operating at a superior level, and thus should get some rewards. I donīt say that heīs perfect, but heīs not doing a bad job COMPARED to the others.

MFFL
04-29-2003, 08:28 AM
I think Nellie would have gotten a lot more consideration if it wasn't for the perceived collapse at the end of the season. And Pop got his team to play some amazing ball at the end of the season and got the #1 seed.

Voting is at the end of the season and the coach that is doing better then will do better in the voting.

seelenjaeger
04-29-2003, 08:35 AM
Thatīs a good reason for Nellie not winning it (and Pop is a deserved winner), but Nellie beeing 8th???

Usually Lurkin
04-29-2003, 08:41 AM
good point, MFFL.
Still think Nellie should've gotten more, though. An argument could be made that the mavs don't have a top 5 player. A poorer argument could be made that the mavs don't have a top 10 player. Nellie has gotten this group of very good players to play as a top 2 or 3 team. That's something.

Don't know where the media Nellie bash comes from. Does the media:
a) Think Dallas is so full of talent they should be better than top 2 or 3 team?
b) Think that any group of players that good can play with any coach?
c) Think that Dallas is not a top team?
d) Think that the players on the Mavs are somehow inherently immune to ego problems, that a coach has nothing to do with keeping them happy?

my thoughts:
a) probably not, not enough individual accolades. But maybe they think that the individuals are held back by poor coaching?
b) surely not, too many negative examples.
c) seems to be the media bias, despite the numbers.
d) surely not, that'd be dumb. Especially with some of the players who've come through here.

Murphy3
04-29-2003, 09:56 AM
isn't it possible that many people around the league don't think the mavs are a group of overachievers?..that they actually do have one of the most talented teams in the league..

seelenjaeger
04-29-2003, 10:17 AM
So the Spurs are over-achievers because Popovich has won it?

This is a non-sense point, Murph.