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The Crippler
05-02-2003, 01:02 AM
I feel bad for this man. Easily my second favorite player in the league behind Dirk. Coolest brother in the world, and you can see his heart is actually broken after this game. He's Got it all, can D up, can rebound, and has shown a consistant inside turnaround this year finally. The NBA and especially David fuckin Stern has F'd him with the Joe Smith ruling. Wally Z?, Hudson?, please...that's not a f'n team. No draft picks?? Well, just shows the NBA's priorities.

One day soon, KG will lead a team (not the Twolves) to the promise land. I would be nearly as happy as when we put it all together and do it.

Imagine Dirk and KG together...damn, I'd give up Fin and Nash and whatever else it took to make it happen. It won't, I know, but sometimes pipe dreams come true. Out/

BrianJ
05-02-2003, 07:44 AM
I feel bad for him too. He took it like a man and has really matured this year. He seemed like his dog got ran over, when he said "I Guess u guys are going to throw the fishing hat on me", there was no need to kick sand in the guys face,(even though he did try to decapitate Dirk , intimidate Nash, and he talked a lot of crap in game 3).

MavKikiNYC
05-02-2003, 07:59 AM
Wonder if he'd be willing to negotiate a restructured contract so the T-Wolves could recruit top-level support?

Dooby
05-02-2003, 08:37 AM
KG has previously said that he understood that his renegotiated salary in his extension would be for less money than he is making now. Which is understandable seeing as how he is making 10M more than the league maximum salary under the CBA.

jayC
05-02-2003, 03:14 PM
They will still be at the cap even if he renegotiates his contract. But what if Payton does take the exception.

Payton
Hudson
Wally
KG
Rasho

Not bad, hudson is more of a two anyway. GP is running on 35 I don't know many teams that are going to give him the max or even close to it at his age.

LakerMania
05-02-2003, 04:20 PM
<< I feel bad for this man... / >>



Why? He is at most, the 3rd best player in the league(behind Shaq &amp; Duncan), yet he will probably get the MVP award this year.

aexchange
05-02-2003, 04:44 PM
i would easily give up any players and draft picks not named dirk for KG.

superstars win championships. not very good players. KG and Dirk are superstars.

Drbio
05-02-2003, 05:06 PM
I think we all would give up anyone not named Dirk...and probably all of them for KG. Pipe dream sure, but what a dream.

OutletPass
05-02-2003, 05:09 PM
Just woke up and found we got KG for Nash, LaF, and 2 #1's.

Somebody pinch me.

jayC
05-03-2003, 09:37 PM
Go ahead and pop 3million + 10 first round draft picks+ Nash+ Finley+ who ever else they want.

KG and Dirk on the break would be awfully fun.

jayC
05-04-2003, 06:14 PM
This time, everyone's feeling Garnett's pain

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By Marc Stein
ESPN.com

Editor's note: New season, new Stein Line. Now, Marc Stein's NBA report can be found every weekday during the playoffs.

Playing the Lakers in the first round can't be all bad. Listen close, Kevin Garnett: It's pretty quiet out there.

There is no national outcry today. Compared to last spring's hysteria, when Dirk Nowitzki's Dallas Mavericks swept Minnesota in Round 1, there is mostly leaguewide sympathy for KG. His Wolves had to open against the Lakers, and so they inevitably had to lose, which backs up the premonition suggested in this cyberspace Monday.

STEIN SIDELINES
MALES OF THE NIGHT
Tim Duncan and Jason Kidd
Hate to pick two again, but couldn't differentiate between the triple-doubles submitted by Duncan and Kidd in their respective series-clinching victories. Kidd had 22 points, 11 rebounds and 11 assists for New Jersey, for the NBA's fifth consecutive playoff triple-double ... and then Duncan broke Kidd's hold on the feat with 15 points, 20 rebounds and 10 assists for San Antonio. The last player with at least 20 rebounds as part of a playoff triple-double: Boston's Dave Cowens in 1976.

E-MAIL OF THE NIGHT
The Jazz, most likely, are breaking up. Karl Malone will play another season or two to break Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's scoring record. Malone will not, in all probability, go to a team that can't win a title. The Lakers desperately need a power forward. Lakers owner Jerry Buss has been hammered in the media over his reluctance to bring in talent to support Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant. Given all that, do you think it's possible Mailman will be wearing purple and gold next year?
Mike Nicholas
San Francisco, Calif.
STEIN: It's certainly possible, Mike. But I still struggle to see Karl fitting in that locker room as a third wheel, and I'm not sure why he'd want to go to the Lakers to get his ring. There will inevitably be folks who downgrade the achievement, saying he needed Shaq and Kobe to finally win one. I suppose it'll be different if the Lakers don't repeat this season -- then Mailman can be billed as the guy the Lakers needed to bring in to get the dynasty movement churning again. If the Lakers do win their fourth straight title, however, it'd be better for Malone to go to Dallas or another team he could legitimately lift. Plus there's Phil Jackson's not-so-secret preference to bring in Scottie Pippen, too. If the Lakers four-peat, Phil will have the juice to get his way, and I really can't imagine a scenario where Malone and Pippen split the $5 million exception.


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SOUNDBITE OF THE NIGHT
&quot;For a guy like me, who's been bounced from the first round of the playoffs three straight years, to finally get to experience the second round, it just feels great.&quot;
Orlando's Tracy McGrady, with a quote that was actually uttered a couple nights back ... but a quote that had to appear in this space. If your eyebrows arched when Kevin Garnett said the L.A. series would be over if Minnesota won Game 4, what's your reaction to this one? McGrady made this statement at 3-1, and, at last check, Orlando still isn't in the second round yet.

STAT OF THE NIGHT
17

San Antonio had lost 17 straight series, after losing Game 1, before closing out Phoenix on Thursday night. The Spurs rallied for a 4-2 dismissal of the Suns after dropping Game 1 in overtime on Stephon Marbury's unforgettable banker.

STAT OF THE TIGHT
38

Indiana's Reggie Miller missed 38 of his 53 shots from the field in the Boston series, for a final reading of 28.3-percent shooting. Sure he was probably due for some playoff struggles, but this was beyond drastic. Reggie fans can only hope the ankles or bothering him more than he ever let on, just as the Suns' Stephon Marbury (held to 18 points or less in Games 4-6 against the Spurs) was clearly affected by that stinger in his right shoulder.

Which was: It's pretty tough to bash Garnett for failing to topple Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant, when no one else in the West (or anywhere else) has done it lately.

Charles Barkley and Magic Johnson, who ignited last spring's KG firestorm with their pointed critiques about how real superstars take over playoff games, didn't even sit together Thursday when Garnett got ushered into the off-season. Magic had the evening off from the TNT studio, presumably to watch the Wolves' demise from his usual baseline seat at Staples Center. Barkley, meanwhile, was a softie for the second night running. He and Kenny Smith refused to don their trademark Gone Fishin' hat when Karl Malone and John Stockton were eliminated late Wednesday, out of respect for Stockton-to-Malone, and they spared Garnett from the same shame after Thursday's Game 6 rout.

Garnett, they seem to be saying, is suffering enough as a first-round loser for the seventh straight time. Worse for him, the suffering is bound to continue, even though the Wolves made some tangible progress for once, even in defeat.

Tim Duncan, who actually struggled more individually in the first round than Garnett did against the champs, is going to win the MVP trophy by the end of the week, by all indications. The summer doesn't figure to be any more satisfying for Garnett, since the Wolves have little to offer in trades to get him some better help, along with the same $5 million to offer free agents possessed by every team over the salary cap.

Is that enough to land Gary Payton? If money is Payton's main consideration, he'll either stay with Milwaukee or push for a sign-and-trade with a team that has something to trade the Bucks back. Trading the retirement-bound Terrell Brandon for a high-priced starter is a more feasible option for the Wolves, since Brandon's $11 million salary stops counting against the salary cap in February, but Minnesota won't have significant cap room of their own until the summer of 2004. And they probably won't have any that summer if they can convince Garnett to sign a lucrative contract extension.

Many Minny fans are calling for Garnett to take a major pay cut in his next deal to give the Wolves more flexibility to build around him. It's a noble and sensible idea, since there's no way Garnett can justify his $28 million salary next season, but the more likely scenario, sadly for Minny, is that Garnett refuses to sign the extension. Which would make him a free agent in 2004, making next season even more torturous than the last seven. The Wolves would be forced, in that scenario, to seriously consider trading Garnett before they lost him for nothing. GM Kevin McHale, to this day, has scoffed at any reporter who dared to suggest the possibility of a KG trade. So it'll be real pleasant up in 'Sota, as Garnett calls it, with the clouds of uncertainty hanging overhead.

See? The torture, which seemingly never ends, might only be just beginning. Garnett's two missed free throws in Game 4, and the squandered opportunity to claim a 3-1 lead over Shaq and Kobe, could wind up as fond memories compared to the prospect of sorting out the messy future. The pressure has to be mounting on McHale now, with Saunders facing his own tough challenge -- trying to rally these guys and build some belief for their eighth attempt at series victory No. 1.

Garnett? His Game 6 was rather meek, and it has to hurt worse than ever that the Wolves, on the verge of 3-1 up, crashed out with back-to-back losses by 46 points. Truth is, though, that Garnett found a new level on the floor and made a wide collar sticking out of a sweater look cool in his post-game chats. He did about as much as he could in this series, only to learn at the end that, yes, those other guys can still be the Lakers some nights.

Of course, that's also the good part. Because those other guys can still be the Lakers some nights, and because the Wolves never had a chance against those Lakers, Garnett awoke to relative quiet Friday morning. Given what lies ahead in 'Sota, he's advised to enjoy it while it lasts

mavsfanforever
05-04-2003, 09:38 PM
Kg for Esh, Popeye, Rigadeau and Laden Sekuralac. Someone in the Twolves will be fired if they execute this.