View Full Version : SA Spurs...watch out for next year
05-16-2003, 10:56 AM
I'm a huge fan of the Mavericks but I can't help but be amazed at what a team the spurs are putting together down in SA.
They have a really nice setup going on down there. And they look to have plenty of cap space to go get another player to add to the allready great team.
Most people say they will go after Kidd. I hope they do becuase I see big things out of Tony Parker and they would be dumb to get rid of him.
Can you imagine adding a player like Jermaine O'Neal to the likes of Duncan, Parker, Rose, Manu, Jackson and Bowen.
They would look awfully scary for the Mavs next year..
And they may add him...AFTER they possibly win a championship this year.
Amazing...Big props the SA front office.
05-16-2003, 11:02 AM
I say Jermaine O'neal is their first target. Although, I will predict that he will sign with Indiana. JMO.
I think they wind up with a a combination of Magette and Olowkandi. Whoever they pick up they already have a nice young nucleus to build around.
If the Mavs don't win it all this year, I want the Spurs to win it. It will be a greatsendoff for one of the best and nicest guys to ever play in the NBA, David Robinson.
sturm und drang
05-16-2003, 11:09 AM
Honestly, we could be witnessing the birth of a Spurs dynasty. Duncan is 26. Ginobili is 25. Jackson's 23. And Parker, of course, is 19.
Unbelievable. And with all the cap room they've got to play with this summer, they could be unstoppable for years to come... truly the best-constructed team in the NBA. No bloated contracts. A selfless superstar with some stars and great role players supporting him.
It will be interesting to see who they go after this summer. I don't think they'll go for Kidd-- nor do I think he'll leave NJ. Same for O'Neal. If I were them, I'd go for two stars instead of one superstar. I predict that a Clipper or two will end up on the team...
05-16-2003, 11:23 AM
They could go for Olowokandi. With Robinson retiring, they need a center. I imagine they'll try to lure O'Neal but I doubt he leaves the Pacers and eastern conference. Olowokandi is a much more realistic target.
I agree that they won't go after Kidd when they have the young talented Parker. They also have Speedy Claxton that has more than stepped up in a backup role.
I'm not sure the contract situations with Bowen and Stephen Jackson, might they go after Maggette?
What about Rose? He's still very much capable of backing Duncan at pf and spotting minutes at center.
This is what scares me about the Spurs
Duncan - 27
Parker - 20
Ginobili - 25
Jackson - 25
Claxton - 25
Rose - 28
Bowen - 31
They are babies.
05-16-2003, 11:43 AM
Doesn't sound like Jermain would fit in, the again Vescey is about as accurate in his reports as Shaq is at the FT line and his sources are typically as reliable as a 2nd round birth for KG and T-Mac.
None the less, here's an interesting Jermaine story:
(Peter Vescey...NY Post):
Can it get any harsher than this??
BIG BABY! THAT'S JERMAINE
Pacers star Jermaine O'Neal, coming off third straight hasty playoff exit, will demand Ron Artest (at right) be traded when he meets with team brass next week, sources say.
- NYP: C. Wenzelberg
May 16, 2003 --
HOOP DU JOUR
LOS ANGELES - In case you're still wondering why the Pacers dissolved into a dysfunctional urn of burning funk, take a whiff of Jermaine O'Neal's self-promotional comments following his team's hasty playoff expulsion.
Quoted ad nauseum, the alleged franchise player - whose credentials include escorting Indiana out of the first round three straight seasons and bulk-heading the United States' sixth-place finish in the World Games - scolded unnamed teammates for not caring as much about winning as he allegedly does. As if he's some kind of authority on the subject or has earned the right to be its measuring instrument.
Clearly, O'Neal couldn't be more impressed with his individual achievements (All-Star and Olympic status) and statistical superiority. In his mind, leading the Pacers in scoring, touches, shots, rebounds and blocks gives him the right to judge teammates and deem a bunch of 'em unworthy in terms of dedication and effort.
Lost in the self-indulging thought process is the indisputable connection between O'Neal's rise to dominancy (guaranteed to command a max contract this summer) and the team's disharmonious collapse.
Finger Ron Artest's bizarre behavior all you want as the critical cause, or Jamaal Tinsley, another frequent target.
Or perhaps you wish to blame the injuries to Brad Miller and Jonathan Bender, Reggie Miller's decline, Al Harrington's mysterious malfunction, or a combination of all the negativity for the Pacer meltdown.
All I know is, the better O'Neal got, the more his teammates regressed; the more spoiled he became by being the centrifugal force and basked in being the team's post-game conscience, the more selfish the team became; and the more success he enjoyed the haughtier his sermons. None more arrogant than the one delivered soon after his team's humiliating elimination.
Not only did O'Neal savage his teammates but he put team president Donnie Walsh - who rescued Jermaine from Portland, where his reputed sloth minimized his minutes (maybe he's an authority on the subject, after all) - on notice he wouldn't consider re-signing with the Pacers unless Isiah Thomas remains as coach.
Of course, O'Neal qualified, "I'm not necessarily coming back."
He might prefer to play alongside Tim Duncan or Tracy McGrady; it depends on where he can pocket the most money and compete for the most championships, which is certainly his prerogative as an incoming free agent. It also depends, he insolently stipulated, on whom his Pacer teammates will or won't be.
Sure sounded like a threat to me.
The impudence of O'Neal! Here's a guy who basically has done nothing for the franchise worth celebrating while catapulting himself into fame and fortune, and he deduces he deserves the right to pick and choose coaches and teammates.
I'm not even part of the Pacers (though I can't say the same for The Mysterious J.) and I'm outraged!
Why pollute this space with the Pacers when the Spurs are on the precipice of dethroning the Lakers? Because I've learned which teammates O'Neal wants vaporized. According to several informed sources, when he meets with Walsh next week, Jermaine intends to demand that Artest, Tinsley and Ron Mercer be traded.
I've got news for O'Neal. Should he follow through on his childish plan, I suspect returning to Indiana will no longer be an option.
This a "Come To Your Senses" alert. I've known Walsh, or have known what he's about, since I was a high school freshman. Nobody but the Simon brothers tell him what to do, especially a big baby like Jermaine.
"They're all big babies," says someone in the same position as Walsh.
The spurs do have youth going for them as well as cap room as well as a great defensive mindset as well as superstar player in Duncan. Lots to watch out for in this team.
05-16-2003, 03:11 PM
Spurs have cap room but they need to sign guys like Sjax. I hope Sjax asks for 50 mil.
05-17-2003, 06:00 AM
Vecsey has plenty of friends in the Pacers' locker-room,his reports of the feud between Rose and Thomas turned out to be accurate so i'm inclined to believe this story too.
In any case,Jermanine is a bad fit on the Spurs team: he can't replace D.Robinson defensively,is not versatile offensively,won't find open teammates as easily as TD does and still has that spoiled Prima Donna attitude. Also,he breaks down mentally. San Antonio would have to pay max salary to a player who wold presumably underachieve,because of team dynamics if nothing else.
Kidd poses a different question: how does his and Pop's style mix? they probably don't. Besides,although he has stepped up in last year's play-offs as a go-to-guy with the Nets,in San Antonio he wouldn't be the man and might be reluctant to take responsibilities in crunch time (i.e. wouldn't take or make those shots)
IMO the Spurs priorities have to be:
1) find a replacement for D.Robinson,i.e. someone who can defend on Shaq - well,try to - and will complement TD offensively. Brad Miller would fit their needs more adequately than JO,and would be much cheaper
2) upgrade the SF position. SJax has shown his limits in the series vs. Lakers
3) if they want to add a veteran guard,Payton might be a better solution than Kidd,because they wuldn't have to sacrifice Tony Parker (but the Glove ought to lower his salary demands and get only a 2-year contract)
05-17-2003, 01:18 PM
I pray they sign Kidd. While yes they will be a better squad with Kidd he is heading up there in years and I would love to see Parker get upset as playing backup and ask to be traded or maybe they an run a 2 pg lineup like us.i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif
Kidd-Parker will be a huge upgrade over Parker-Claxton.
Kidd-Parker vs. Nash-Van Exel. Which is better?
If JKidd moves back West, they seriously need to consider turning the East into the minor league....
05-17-2003, 03:59 PM
They need to move a few teams like Twolves, Blazers to eat just to make it more competitive.
How about the Mavs to the East? i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif
05-18-2003, 12:31 AM
THE SPURS WOULDN'T DARE TO LET GO OF TONY! GETTING KIDD WOULD JUST MAKE HIM BETTER, SO FOR A FEW YEARS TO COME WE MIGHT HAVE KIDD BUT TONY WILL STICK AROUND FOR OUR FUTTURE CHAMPIONSHIPS!!! BUT THEN AGAIN TONY STEPPED UP THE LAST TWO GAMES OF THE SERIES AGAINST THE LAKERS, SO IF WE GET THIS CHAMPIONSHIP THAT JUST SHOWS WE DON'T NEED KIDD!
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