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MikeB
06-19-2003, 09:54 PM
Here is the latest from Chad Ford at ESPN...the most intriguing part is near the end when he talks about the trade rumor of the day.


Draft Rumors: In or Out of the NBA Draft?
By Chad Ford
NBA Insider
Send an Email to Chad Ford Thursday, June 19
Updated: June 19
7:59 PM ET



Who's in the Green Room? Insider has the answer . . .

5 p.m. ET update: Big news. Pavel Podkolzine is pulling his name out of the draft his agent, Justin Zanik told Insider. Agent Marc Fleisher told Insider that Sofoklis Schortsanitis and Szymon Szewczyk will keep their names in the draft. Agent David Bauman told Insider that Alexsander Vujacic will withdraw from the draft. Agent Marc Cornstein told Insider that Slavko Vranes will keep his name in the draft. Malick Badiane also kept his name in the draft.

Here's a look at where a number of other players stand on their deadline decision.

IN: Maciej Lampe, Mickael Pietrus, Jarvis Hayes, Boris Diaw, Leandrinho Barbosa, Sofoklis Schortsanitis, Ndudi Ebi, Carlos Delfino, Travis Outlaw, Zaur Pachulia, Kendrick Perkins, Zoran Planinic, Josh Powell, Szymon Szewczyk, Malick Badiane, Slavko Vranes, Maurice Williams

LIKELY IN: Mike Sweetney

OUT: Pavel Podkolzine, Viktor Khryapa, Chris Thomas, Jameer Nelson, Ezarem Lorbek, Marcus Moore, Andre Emmett, Anderson Varejao, Charlie Villanueva, Alexsander Vujacic, Aleksandar Djuric, Kresimir Loncar, Misan Nikagbatse, Jason Parker, Blagota Sekulic

Podkolzine pulls out

Podkolzine
3:30 p.m. ET update: It's been one crazy, wild ride for 7-foot-5, 300 pound Russian Pavel Podkolzine. One Thursday, Podkolzine ended that ride short by withdrawing his name from the NBA draft.

Podkolzine told Insider that he felt he just wasn't ready.

"I don't want to be a project," Podkolzine said. "I want to prove to NBA teams I am ready now. I will go back to Italy, work very, very hard and come back next year stronger, and more ready to contribute to the team that drafts me."

Podkolzine's decision will come as a shock to most NBA GMs. He was largely projected as a top 10 selection in the 2003 NBA Draft.

"There's no way he would've slipped out of the lottery," one NBA GM told Insider.

Podkolzine has overcome just about every obstacle imaginable for a young NBA draft prospect over the last six months. In the span of less than half a year, Podkolzine had risen from obscurity playing in Varese, Italy to a potential high lottery pick in the 2003 NBA Draft. In December, only one NBA team had even seen him play. A

But it wasn't until Podkolzine's surprising workout in front of more than 100 NBA scouts and GMs in Chicago that Podkolzine finally started to believe that his dream of playing in the NBA was going to come true. However a diagnosis of acromegaly (a growth hormone secreting pituitary adenoma) late last week -- pushed him to the edge.

Podkolzine spent the last week talking to doctors and flying from city to city for workouts. When doctors told him that his problem could be fixed with minor surgery everything seemed to be back on track.

But according to Podkolzine, the fact that a team wouldn't commit to him early bothered him.

"I didn't just want a team to settle for me," he said. "I wanted someone to believe."

Podkolzine's agent Justin Zanik worked the phones the last 48 hours looking for a team in the lottery that would commit. Several teams expressed strong interest, but no one would give them a firm commitment.

But it was Pavel who decided to pull the plug. "This is my decision," he said. "My agent would like me to stay in the draft. But I think I will try this again next year."

If the surgery on Podkolzine goes well, and he develops as expected in Italy next year, two separate NBA sources told Insider that they expected Podkolzine to be a Top 3 pick in the draft next year.

"He's got enormous upside," one GM told Insider. "Next year, if he keeps working and his health is O.K. he has a shot at going No. 1."

No guarantees

Thursday morning report: At around 5 p.m. ET today, the NBA Draft picture is going to get a whole lot clearer.

With less than eight hours to go before college and international underclassmen can withdraw from the draft, there are still a several big names out there sitting on the fence.

The biggest is 7-foot-5, 303-pound Russian center Pavel Podkolzine. After a big workout in front of everyone in the NBA at the Chicago pre-draft camp and a number of individual workouts for lottery teams, Podkolzine told Insider late Wednesday night that he is seriously considering pulling his name from the draft today.

Why? The elusive NBA promise.

While every team in the lottery has told Podkolzine's agent that Pavel is a lock for the top 10, he's still not holding a promise from a team to select him that high.

Pavel, along with a number of other NBA prospects, is seeking the holy grail of the NBA draft -- a guarantee from a team that, if he's still on the board, it will take him.

Like several other top prospects, including Mike Sweetney, Podkolzine wants some assurances that on draft night he's not sitting in the green room looking forlorn on national television.

Podkolzine's situation is the most intriguing. Insider talked to six teams in the lottery on Wednesday. All of them thought there was no way Podkolzine could slip out of the top 10.

"That's really inconceivable," one GM told Insider. "He's worked out better than anyone thought, he's further along than we expected and the doctors just aren't worried about the pituitary thing."

The "pituitary thing" is acromegaly (a growth hormone secreting pituitary adenoma). In layman's terms, Podkolzine's pituitary gland secretes an unusually high amount of a growth hormone, which partly explains his enormous stature. A quick, minor surgery can fix the problem and none of the teams Insider talked to on Wednesday indicated it would be a problem.

So what is the problem? While everyone claims to love him (the N.Y. Post reported today that the Knicks were trying to move up from No. 9 to get him) no one will commit.

"When you're dealing with a kid that's 18," agent Justin Zanik told Insider, "you want to take every precaution. He has four more chances at this. You want to feel as good as you can that he's making the most out of this chance."

Blame the unstable nature of the first round on the commitment issue. Teams have been burned in the past by committing too early only to see a player they covet slip in the draft. Then teams are forced to decide between reneging on a promise to draft the guy the really want, or settling for the guy they committed to.

"You have to really love a guy -- and I mean really love a guy -- to give him a promise," one Western Conference GM told Insider. "I know it's popular for teams and the media to speculate about promises, but in actuality, I don't think it happens very often. I think agents would like everyone to believe it happens -- that way they can shift the blame if things go wrong in the draft on someone else -- but the truth is it normally doesn't make sense for a team to make a promise."

Several other GMs agreed. So where does that leave Pavel, Sweetney and a number of bubble first-rounders like Jameer Nelson, Ndudi Ebi, Kendrick Perkins, Maurice Williams and Slavko Vranes?

Hoping for a guarantee in a business that has very few of them.

If Podkolzine doesn't get one?

"Then I go back to Italy," Podkolzine told Insider late Wednesday night. "I want to make sure a team believes in me. I want to make sure that they want me. If not, I can go back to Italy, work on my game, and try again next year."

decisions.

Promises, Promises

Speaking of those elusive promises, the rumor mill went into high alert Wednesday when high school star Travis Outlaw decided to keep his name in the draft.

Several league sources told Insider that the Blazers promised Outlaw they'd take him with the No. 23 pick. Outlaw, an athletic 6-foot-9 power forward, is considered to be one of the best athletes in the draft. However, his wiry frame will keep him from contributing for several years. That's cool with the Blazers, who have too much talent on their team anyway. He wouldn't be able to crack the rotation right away.

If you're keeping track at home, that brings the number of so-called "promises" being rumored up to three.

Several league sources claim that the Celtics will take UNLV point guard Marcus Banks with one of their picks.

The other prominent rumor, that the Suns had locked up Yugoslavian forward Zarko Cabarkapa at No. 17, took a hit late Wednesday. Cabarkapa worked out for the Suns and Lakers before suddenly returning to Serbia several weeks ago. Numerous sources claimed that the Suns and Lakers had both given him promises and were stashing him away for the rest of the pre-draft period.

However, Cabarkapa will return to the U.S. this weekend and has three more workouts scheduled over the next week. He'll be in Milwaukee this weekend and also plans to work out for the Knicks and Nets early next week.

There is also a healthy amount of speculation that Croatian point guard Zoran Planinic and Georgian big man Zaur Pachulia have received first-round guarantees. Planinic's name has been linked to the Nets.

One guy who won't be getting a promise from the Suns is Ndudi Ebi. Suns GM Bryan Colangelo told Ebi's advisors that he wouldn't take him in the first round. He believes Ebi should return to school. "I've been encouraging his advisers to make that decision,'' Colangelo told the Arizona Daily Star. "I went as far as to say we would not have him in for a workout.''

Trade Rumor of the Day

The Nuggets said it would take a knock-your-socks-off offer to trade their No. 3 pick in the draft. They may have gotten one on Wednesday.

Several NBA sources claim that the Kings are willing to part with all-star Peja Stojakovic and super sub Bobby Jackson for the No. 3 pick, Marcus Camby and Ryan Bowen.

The Kings obviously would take Carmelo Anthony with the No. 3 pick. Camby would give them another big man who could spell Vlade Divac and Chris Webber if he ever got healthy.

Why would the Nuggets pull the trigger on the deal?

They would immediately get better with the addition of Stojakovic and Jackson. Remember, they'd still have roughly 18 million worth of cap room to spend on a couple of free agents, and some in the organization feel they need a few more established players to lure the best free agents.

Workout News

Raptors: Georgia Tech's Chris Bosh, KU's Nick Collison and Serbian forward David Brkic worked out in Toronto on Wednesday. KU's Kirk Hinrich, Oregon's Luke Ridnour and Hawaii's Carl English will be in town today.

Heat: Georgetown power forward Michael Sweetney and Serbian shooting guard Alexsandar Pavlovic worked out in Miami on Wednesday.

Knicks: North Dakota's Jerome Beasley worked out for the Knicks on Wednesday. Georgia's Jarvis Hayes will workout for the Knicks today.

Wizards: Georgia's Jarvis Hayes worked out in Washington on Wednesday. Maciej Lampe will work out in Washington on Wednesday.

Sonics: Illinois Brian Cook and Russian Viktor Khryapa worked on Wednesday.

Jazz: Russian big man Pavel Podkolzine, Serbian Blagota Sekulic and Arizona's Jason Gardner were in Utah on Wednesday

Suns: Arizona's Luke Walton and Senegal's Malik Badiane worked out in Phoenix on Wednesday. Brian Cook is in Phoenix today.

Hornets: BYU's Travis Hansen worked out on Wednesday. Serbian shooting guard Alexsandar Pavlovic is in town today.

Bulls: GM John Paxson couldn't make the trip to France to see Mickael Pietrus work out. However, assistant GM B. J. Armstrong did go. Paxson claimed that he doesn't have to see the kid in person to draft him. "Would I draft a guy I haven't seen?" Paxson said. "Yes, and it goes back to what I said when I got the job [on April 14], and that is I'm going to depend on the people who have been scouting all year to make decisions. I said that back then, and I still believe that."

Warriors: Greek big man Sofaklis Schortsanitis worked out on Wednesday.

Hitman
06-19-2003, 10:07 PM
I think it would be insanely stupid for the Kings to trade two of their best players when they are thisclose to winning it all. Trading and All star and a guy who was the MVP for the first two months of the year for Carmelo Anthony who could turn out to be a hybrid of Antoine Walker and Glenn Robinson.

Puhleeze.

jayC
06-19-2003, 11:17 PM
I hope they do it.

one long blue sock
06-19-2003, 11:42 PM
If it is true that they are THINKING of it, it means they don't plan on letting Keon wear purple anymore.

MavsFanFinley
06-19-2003, 11:57 PM
Geoff Petrie has done an out of this world job putting the Kings team together so it's hard to question his moves, but I'm not sure I'm understanding this possible one.

Obviously, I can understand the move of wanting to land Anthony, but at the expense of Peja?? And to have to throw in Bobby Jackson as well?? I like Ryan Bowen and think he'd thrive on a Kings team, but Camby's health is just too risky, imo. They'd basically be giving up Peja and Jackson for Anthony.

Mandyahl
06-20-2003, 12:42 AM
i am sending vibes to petrie begging him to pull the trigger on this trade!

one long blue sock
06-20-2003, 01:02 AM
There is no way they would give up Jackson for Camby, i can understand them thinking of what Melo is going to be, but like MFF said, Camby's heath is too risky, plus they really dont need anymore big man. Doesn't Camby have a big contract to.

Evilmav2
06-20-2003, 01:38 AM
If there is any truth to this rumor (a highly dubious assumption), I doubt the target of the trade is Carmelo Anthony. Over the last couple of weeks there have been a lot of scouting reports bandied about which have described the "Garnett-like" size and athleticism, and the "Duncan-like" post moves of 6-11 Georgia Tech freshman, Chris Bosh...

While such hyperbole may be misplaced, I wouldn't be surprised if Petrie might have become convinced that a chance to draft a future Kevin Garnett would be worth the cost of the King's taking a step back in trading two currently valuable veterans...

Such a move would undeniably hurt their team in the short term, and there are no guarantees that it would pay any great dividends in the future, but if this talk is serious I think that Petrie would be covetting the enticing upside of Bosh, and not the small forward talents of Carmelo (how many talented SF's do the Kings need anyway?) ...

nowitzki_prophecy
06-20-2003, 03:13 AM
actualy,i think this trade is good for both teams.
Carmelo would'nt need to too much time to start playing his game,he could easily replace Peja' place.
all Peja did was add 20 ppg,nothing more,nothing less,Anthony should be much better.
adding Camby to the deal is too sweat,when Healty,Camby is a great PF/C,and can easily average 10 boards a game,playing with webber should only make him more fierce.
Ryan Bowen is a scrub,but should add a little Depth to their Bench,i think they're expecting to lose J.Jackson.

ofcourse in the absence of Jackson,Bibby should seriously step up,playing near 40 minutes a game.
they need to find a PG,doesnt need to be a good one,doesnt have to be an average one,but they need one that could give Bibby some rest,even if its just a couple of minutes,you cant go off without a backup PG.

Denver should do it cause Anthony all alone in Denver can do shit.
but with Peja averagin 21 PPG,and bobby Jackson taking over the back court,replacing the legendary PG kenny satersfield.
if they manage to resign Howerd,all they have to do is give Nene some time,and you got yourself a playoff team,nothing less.

Mandyahl
06-20-2003, 03:42 AM
still, the kings would be giving up their second best player and their best bench player for presumably anthony, who has proven nothing at this level, and camby, who has been plagued with injuries. i guess it makes them younger and maybe better in a few years, but i don't think carmelo can replace peja right off the bat, so it would make them worse now, imo.

seelenjaeger
06-20-2003, 06:12 AM
The moves makes sense if the Kings are getting Kidd for Bibby / Hedo aswell:

Kidd, Cleaves
Christie, Ryan Bowen
Carmejo, Jim Jackson
Webber, Pollard
Camby, Divac

David
06-20-2003, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by: Evilmav2
If there is any truth to this rumor (a highly dubious assumption), I doubt the target of the trade is Carmelo Anthony. Over the last couple of weeks there have been a lot of scouting reports bandied about which have described the "Garnett-like" size and athleticism, and the "Duncan-like" post moves of 6-11 Georgia Tech freshman, Chris Bosh...

While such hyperbole may be misplaced, I wouldn't be surprised if Petrie might have become convinced that a chance to draft a future Kevin Garnett would be worth the cost of the King's taking a step back in trading two currently valuable veterans...

Such a move would undeniably hurt their team in the short term, and there are no guarantees that it would pay any great dividends in the future, but if this talk is serious I think that Petrie would be covetting the enticing upside of Bosh, and not the small forward talents of Carmelo (how many talented SF's do the Kings need anyway?) ...
I think Anthony is going to be one of the next great NBA players, however, I think you may be right about the target being Chris Bosh. The Kings need to get younger with their inside game and Bosh is rumored to still be growing and if he is similar to Duncan or Garnett or somewhere close, it would be a coup for Petrie. Giving up Peja would be a big move, almost like giving up Dirk, so the Kings had better be sure what they are doing, if they make such a trade.