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Murphy3
06-20-2003, 09:58 AM
vote please..but i'm not starting a poll..

i'll go with Payton..any and every day of the week

Chiwas
06-20-2003, 10:33 AM
Kidd, even not in his prime.

And I prefer Nash -in his prime- than GP.

Drbio
06-20-2003, 10:42 AM
Depends on who is playing with them. GP and Kidd bring different things to the table to complement their teammates, but in their prime overall I'll take the Glove.

madape
06-20-2003, 10:43 AM
There's no question it's Payton.

Chicago JK
06-20-2003, 11:02 AM
Well Kidd is 28-29, so he should have at least 4-5 years left in his prime and then some good years after that. If Kidd keeps on the course I think he will generally be considered the better player.

Both guys have off the court issues that are considerations though. Obviously Kidd's spousal abuse is a terrible thing, but Payton is just a hard guy to get along with.

So if Jason continues his high level of play, I think it is safe to say that he will be considered the better player when their careers are finished.

Ummmmm Ok
06-20-2003, 11:13 AM
I would have to go with Rhylan. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

nowitzki_prophecy
06-20-2003, 11:39 AM
its Payton,and its not even a tough choice.
i mean,JK is a good PG,the best we have right now,a leader,and has nice stats,but GP,in his good days,he was just unbelievable.

in 99/00 he averaged 24.2/9/6.5,while being probably the best defensive guard in the league,and one of the best in history.

Nash13
06-20-2003, 12:18 PM
duh....Payton. If you think about it, Payton probably would've did the same thing with the Nets as Kidd did.

Also, Payton was more valueable to Seattle than Kidd was to Pheonix. You would have never seen a Payton-for-Maubury trade.

Mandyahl
06-20-2003, 03:08 PM
payton.

Fidel
06-20-2003, 04:04 PM
The Glove.

mavsfanforever
06-20-2003, 06:28 PM
The Glove. Glove is a better scorer, defender.

I think GP is better than Kidd even now.

Dirks Cuzin
06-20-2003, 06:32 PM
GP

one long blue sock
06-20-2003, 06:42 PM
Payton

Named All-NBA First-Team in 1998, 2000, All-NBA Second Team in 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999 and All-NBA Third Team in 2001
Selected to the NBA All-Defensive First Team eight consecutive seasons (1994-2001)
Named Defensive Player of the Year in 1996 and was the first guard to win the award since Michael Jordan in 1987-88
Selected to the NBA All-Star Team seven straight seasons (1994-98, 2000-01) and was voted as a starter in 1997 and 1998

Not many people can beat that

jayC
06-21-2003, 09:11 AM
GP he almost won the thing with shawn kemp. Kidd couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. The east coast media overrates kidd , marbury didn't have a healthy kenyon, let alone even have jefferson or collins.

Tony tha Mavs fan
06-21-2003, 08:30 PM
As far as all- around play, I'd have to go with Payton in his prime

one long blue sock
06-21-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by: jayC
GP he almost won the thing with shawn kemp. Kidd couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. The east coast media overrates kidd , marbury didn't have a healthy kenyon, let alone even have jefferson or collins.

Yeah, but i do think that Van Horn is better than Jefferson.

Mandyahl
06-21-2003, 08:54 PM
jefferson played better in the playoffs this year than van horn did in the playoffs last year.

one long blue sock
06-21-2003, 08:58 PM
He didn't against Detroit and SA, as much as i love the kid. He needs to develop more of a perimeter game. And he needs to gain more Confidence.

Murphy3
06-22-2003, 01:53 AM
wow..pretty overwhelming response in favor of payton.

i'm glad everyone didn't drink the Kidd Kool-Aid that the media tries to shove down our throat.

shocking statement of the month... i hope Kidd does go to San Antonio.

Why? Because it means that they will be giving the minutes of a good PG in Parker to a better PG in Kidd.

But guess what, it also means that they probably don't address the needs at another key position..such as the 5 spot or another PF.

I'd rather the spurs make a slight upgrade in bringing in kidd than have them actually address a need.

one long blue sock
06-22-2003, 03:14 AM
Tim Duncan's original position is center... Malik Rose is fully capible of being the starting PF, he averaged 10.4 and 6.4 in just 24 minutes. Although JO is alot better than Rose, Kidds alot better than Parker.

And i wouldn't bet JO is gonna be a Spur.

MFFL
06-22-2003, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by: Murphy3
shocking statement of the month... i hope Kidd does go to San Antonio.

Why? Because it means that they will be giving the minutes of a good PG in Parker to a better PG in Kidd.

But guess what, it also means that they probably don't address the needs at another key position..such as the 5 spot or another PF.

I'd rather the spurs make a slight upgrade in bringing in kidd than have them actually address a need.

But there is talk that Parker could land a HIGH draft pick - up to the 4th pick in the draft.

MFFL
06-22-2003, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by: Murphy3
shocking statement of the month... i hope Kidd does go to San Antonio.

Why? Because it means that they will be giving the minutes of a good PG in Parker to a better PG in Kidd.

But guess what, it also means that they probably don't address the needs at another key position..such as the 5 spot or another PF.

I'd rather the spurs make a slight upgrade in bringing in kidd than have them actually address a need.

But there is talk that Parker could land a HIGH draft pick - up to the 4th pick in the draft.

Murphy3
06-23-2003, 08:32 AM
I understand that MFFL...i know JO probably won't be a spur..but i would look to adding a player like him and keeping parker before I looked to trade parker for the #4 pick and add kidd.

Just my opinion.

And one long blue sock, I like Rose as well..but, can you imagine having a lineup that sometimes features rose, duncan and O'neal?...and at others, having rose to spell duncan or o'neal?

Rose could get 30-35 minutes coming off of the bench... that would be a dominating team..along with parker running the point

now, that's all well and good, but if o'neal resigns in indiana, screw that idea. but, there would be other options that would fit nicely