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But see, I think she can at least partially save herself if she dropped out and endorsed Bernie. Be a shame to see her collapse as a phony while needlessly taking primary votes away from him. People have short memories, and she could easily get back to why she became popular to begin with.
She's not taking anything away from Bernie at this point -- if anything, her supporters have become disillusioned with her and are now flocking to him because he's not a sellout.
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She's not taking anything away from Bernie at this point -- if anything, her supporters have become disillusioned with her and are now flocking to him because he's not a sellout.
I hope you're right! Bernie needs a big day tomorrow to hopefully put this thing away.
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Warren is basically gift wrapping the election to Tump by staying in the race at this point with Klobacher and Pete out.
Indirectly. She's holding Bernie back so he only gets a plurality instead of a majority. Then the DNC can torpedo Bernie at the convention.

Then enough people are pissed at the dems that I could see Trump pulling a win.

So yeah
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Indirectly. She's holding Bernie back so he only gets a plurality instead of a majority. Then the DNC can torpedo Bernie at the convention.

Then enough people are pissed at the dems that I could see Trump pulling a win.

So yeah
Yep. But if the Dems want to really screw Bernie at the convention, then it's a loss no matter who the nominee is at that point.

Dems have cried foul for four years that Trump won but lost by 3 million votes. If more people vote for Bernie and he isn't the nominee, then they are all the worst kind of hypocrites.

Real question is why would Warren do that unless she was promised the VP spot by Biden. I'm still not at all getting why she is trying to hurt Bernie otherwise...
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I see, americans really really hate having a normal health insurance
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Well I was pretty much dead on. Four more years of Trump is better than Bernie!
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Annnnd Bloomberg just ended his campaign. Nail in the coffin...

But hey, Warren staying in the race really makes sense!
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Annnnd Bloomberg just ended his campaign. Nail in the coffin...

But hey, Warren staying in the race really makes sense!
If she doesn't drop out today after losing even her home state of Massachusetts, we will all know whats up
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I really do think she could help save Bernie's campaign because he simply can't win alone after all of Biden's endorsements and Bloomberg votes now going to Biden as well. I'd be perfectly fine if he promised her the VP spot to get on board with him.
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Every single state yesterday voted yes to medicare 4 all...and yet...people voted for Biden.

This is why Trump is president. People just aren't educated enough to understand simple things in life.

https://twitter.com/karpmj/status/1235228229960708096
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This is why Trump is president. People just aren't educated enough to understand simple things in life.

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I'm not convinced Warren's support goes to Bernie. IMO it's closer to a 60-40 split between Bernie and Biden.
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I'm not convinced Warren's support goes to Bernie. IMO it's closer to a 60-40 split between Bernie and Biden.
You are probably right, but I’m not sure how a Warren fan squares that one in their mind.
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Glenn Greenwald:
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Bolsonaro’s Communications chief, who was just with the Brazilian President in the US, meeting with Trump, returned to Brazil with corona virus symptoms and was tested:”
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Google translate of the Portuguese tweet he was referencing from @lucasrohan:

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Head of Secom of the Brazilian government who was with Bolsonaro in the USA returned with symptoms and took the test #coronavírus , informs @monicabergamo
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Ah Donnie never fails...its europe faults that the virus is spreading in the USA
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I don't really keep up with politics much but I find it funny how everyone either thinks Trump is Satan or they think he's an angel of God, and there's no middleground.
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So Joe Biden. Yay. Thanks Pete, Liz, Amy, and thanks Obama.
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Yeah Mavs related i wouldnt be surprised if Dirk and Jessica moving back to Germany/sweden.

Dirk always said that Dallas is his home now but with a black wife and bi-racial kids it wont take much more of "this" america for him to leave...
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I voted for Hillary despite her being a crappy Dem candidate. There is basically no question she would be a better president than dumb dumb.

So are we going to have four more years of Trump or not? The exit polls were damning in the dem primaries with regards to younger voter turnout. If they have the time and energy to go out and protest, then they have it to VOTE!

I really, really don't like Joe Biden, but what other choice do we have? It's clear four more years of Tump isn't a viable option.
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4.5 more years....
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Odd timing considering how low his approval is right now.
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Will " the virus " break Trump´s neck or will the swing states be still in command ?
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Universal healthcare = radical left, socialism etc.

I always have to first laugh and then bang my head on the table when i read this crap. Its amazing. And then you have tens of million brainwashed people with no or shitty health insurance believing this all and voiting against it. What a freaking trainwreck.

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Universal healthcare = radical left, socialism etc.

I always have to first laugh and then bang my head on the table when i read this crap. Its amazing. And then you have tens of million brainwashed people with no or shitty health insurance believing this all and voiting against it. What a freaking trainwreck.
I’m guessing she’ll back off that m4a stance real quick. I doubt she would have been picked otherwise. It will be all about improving the aca.
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I always have to first laugh and then bang my head on the table when i read this crap. Its amazing. And then you have tens of million brainwashed people with no or shitty health insurance believing this all and voiting against it. What a freaking trainwreck.
Healthcare is a really tough playing field.
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No, its actually not. There is zero reason that the USA has such a trainwreck system. Except that this system helps certain companies and also people to rip everyone off and get filthy rich. And through the also trainwreck political system they are shelling out enough donation money to politics so nothing changes.

They could afford univeral healthcare like so many other western countries and for sure they could have a private system similar to other countries private system. But not a private system were people lying on the street begging people not to call an ambulance because that alone is going to cost them like 1300 bucks, a gazillion GoFundme pages because of medical emergencies etc

Seriously, what kind of life quality is it when you are sick or you had a minor accident at home and the first question is not "crap, i need a doctor, lets go". Instead its "how much this is going to cost me" and after it "can i afford it" and so often the answer is "no" and the people throwing some Oxys instead.

In germany i had universal healthcare and its awesome. And people are willing to pay for it with a little bit higher taxes because you get so much back. Now i live in brazil (aka a "shithole country" like Donnie would say). I have a normal private insurance over my wifes work. They charge like 2% of her salary to have us both covered.

- fell down stairs at home because they were wet, teared something in the shoulder. Xray, MRT, 10 hours of physical therapy all covered
- did Lasik eye surgery, all covered because i had more than 5.0 dpt
- dental covered. i can go twice a year for checkup/cleaning. Had two root canals done and 4 ceramic inlays. All covered.
- eye doctor checkups covered
- did a complete health checkup with blood work, exercise EKG, heart ultrasom etc, all covered

Just some examples. How private health insurance in a shithole country looks like. Ah and like half of my doctors studied part time in europe or the USA. I really cant believe how easy its for the healthcare sector in the US to keep on spinning "our system is great, it has to be so expensive blablabla", "universal healthcare would be the downfall and break our awesome system blabla"

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RIP RBG

And yeah If you thought the past four years were a shit show, wait for the next decade(s)

Mitch showing of course his deeply undemocratic and unconstitutional face. Just burn your constitution, its useless crap

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No, its actually not. There is zero reason that the USA has such a trainwreck system. Except that this system helps certain companies and also people to rip everyone off and get filthy rich. And through the also trainwreck political system they are shelling out enough donation money to politics so nothing changes.

They could afford univeral healthcare like so many other western countries and for sure they could have a private system similar to other countries private system. But not a private system were people lying on the street begging people not to call an ambulance because that alone is going to cost them like 1300 bucks, a gazillion GoFundme pages because of medical emergencies etc

Seriously, what kind of life quality is it when you are sick or you had a minor accident at home and the first question is not "crap, i need a doctor, lets go". Instead its "how much this is going to cost me" and after it "can i afford it" and so often the answer is "no" and the people throwing some Oxys instead.

In germany i had universal healthcare and its awesome. And people are willing to pay for it with a little bit higher taxes because you get so much back. Now i live in brazil (aka a "shithole country" like Donnie would say). I have a normal private insurance over my wifes work. They charge like 2% of her salary to have us both covered.

- fell down stairs at home because they were wet, teared something in the shoulder. Xray, MRT, 10 hours of physical therapy all covered
- did Lasik eye surgery, all covered because i had more than 5.0 dpt
- dental covered. i can go twice a year for checkup/cleaning. Had two root canals done and 4 ceramic inlays. All covered.
- eye doctor checkups covered
- did a complete health checkup with blood work, exercise EKG, heart ultrasom etc, all covered

Just some examples. How private health insurance in a shithole country looks like. Ah and like half of my doctors studied part time in europe or the USA. I really cant believe how easy its for the healthcare sector in the US to keep on spinning "our system is great, it has to be so expensive blablabla", "universal healthcare would be the downfall and break our awesome system blabla"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z2XRg3dy9k
No argument here man! Unfortunately almost half our population is an unholy combination of gullible, dumb, and easily scared.
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RIP RBG

And yeah If you thought the past four years were a shit show, wait for the next decade(s)

Mitch showing of course his deeply undemocratic and unconstitutional face. Just burn your constitution, its useless crap
Yeah wannabe dictator is not leaving in January. It’s going to be a catastrophe that will take years to come back from.
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Decades.

Floridas poll tax confirmed/backed by the SC, thats how its going to be for decades

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No politicians in charge of anything are for universal healthcare. It is supposedly popular amongst the populace but:

“82% of Democrats and 16% of Republicans support single-payer healthcare when told that Obama supports it. When instead told that Trump supports it, Dem support drop to 46% and Rep support increase to 44%.”
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Ryan Grim and Nate Silver seemed to be saying it is just messaging intended to suppress the Dem vote. Something about polls indicating that people are less likely to vote, if they think the election will be stolen.
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I can't believe I've personally become this polarized, but the honest truth is I don't want anyone in my life who votes for Trump. The man is a fraud who is beholden to foreign influence and far right nationalism to stay afloat. He is only possible in a system that disproportionately gives voting power to minority rural populations at the expense of the majority. I don't care if you try to justify your choice by stating that your issue is taxes, abortion, or regulation, if you're willing to ignore the rest of his conduct for some combination of those, YOU ARE NOT A GOOD PERSON.
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I can't believe I've personally become this polarized, but the honest truth is I don't want anyone in my life who votes for Trump. The man is a fraud who is beholden to foreign influence and far right nationalism to stay afloat. He is only possible in a system that disproportionately gives voting power to minority rural populations at the expense of the majority. I don't care if you try to justify your choice by stating that your issue is taxes, abortion, or regulation, if you're willing to ignore the rest of his conduct for some combination of those, YOU ARE NOT A GOOD PERSON.
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Fuck Trump, but this doesn’t even make sense.
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