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I would really love to see Immanuel Quickley on this team. He's a wiry strong defender with great length, and has an offensive game that's tailor-made for today's NBA with great range and a highly effective floater. Love the growth he showed between freshman and sophomore years. I think he's a steal at 31 but will probably be gone late first.
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I would really love to see Immanuel Quickley on this team. He's a wiry strong defender with great length, and has an offensive game that's tailor-made for today's NBA with great range and a highly effective floater. Love the growth he showed between freshman and sophomore years. I think he's a steal at 31 but will probably be gone late first.
I like him a lot with the 31 if he's there.

I wouldn't take him 18th, but I think he could be a heck of a complement to Doncic offensively while being able to guard PGs/SGs on the other side. Knocks down open threes (which Doncic will get him), defends, has some limited abilities to run primary ballhandler but would be excellent as a secondary one.
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CBS has us taking Isaiah Steward with #18 and leaving Maxey on the table.

https://youtu.be/nOAAgCzX8vw?t=1868
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CBS has us taking Isaiah Steward with #18 and leaving Maxey on the table.

https://youtu.be/nOAAgCzX8vw?t=1868
Tankathon has him going 29 lol. Tank is usually reliable too, so I'm not sure what CBS is thinking. I do find NBA mock drafts are all over the place though.
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Tankathon has him going 29 lol. Tank is usually reliable too, so I'm not sure what CBS is thinking. I do find NBA mock drafts are all over the place though.
Yeah, I don't dislike Stewart at all. I think he's a solid player and kind of the Powell/Harrell hybrid that could really benefit the team by defending forwards KP is too slow to and catching massive lobs. Huge character guy.

Still, I think there's a 50/05 chance he's available at 31 and I'm not sure I'd pick up an energy/leadership/physicality guy in the mid-first round. Not with a lot of guards still available who can guard/shoot still on the table. We have like seven guys who are probably a better fit, and I'd bet 5-6 of them are still there at 18:Nesmith, Maxey, Terry, Quickley, Bey boys, Stanley, Winston
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DraftExpress/ESPN has some good stuff. They're the most reliable of any of the prediction sites.

18th pick this year
3% of allstar
19% starter
39% 2nd stringer
29% 3rd/4th stringer
6% bust

31st pick this year
2% of allstar
10% starter
20% 2nd stringer
41% 3rd/4th stringer
27% bust




31st pick - Jahmius Ramsey (Texas Tech)
https://www.nba.com/draft/2020/prosp...hmius-ramsey#/
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...eper-prospects
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jahmius-ramsey/

Ramsey seems okay. Is capable of defense and scores in droves. I'm not wild about Maledon. Decently smart kid. Slightly limited. Basically Doncic but shorter and less talented. With Winston, Tyler Bey, Terry, Quickley and others on the table, I'm not sure why we'd get him.
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I like the Ahtletic one too.

They have Kira Lewis at #18. All the wings and Poku going ahead of 18...

#31 is Woodard

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Ramsey would be a huge steal at 31. There are so many quality guys available at 18 that I wouldn't be too disappointed with any of then as long as it isn't Pokusevski. No clue how he would add enough weight to be a serious NBA player. Wayyyy too thin.
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Btw Maledon is being compared to what people wanted from Franky Smokes.

Both may fall into the same boat, but people really like his feel and IQ for a young kid who stands 6’5”

Still don’t like the pick for #18, but I think he’d make Frank (and Wright) completely unnecessary
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Bane Bump.

I get why people want to take a risk on a higher ceiling player and there is nothing wrong with that, but this is who can be the 2 way player at guard that we can use right out of the box.

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2020/9...d-bane-profile
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Some player comps -- to me looks like one of the deeper drafts I've seen -- Mavs have a real shot at 18 & 31 both to walk away with good players


LaMelo Ball -> taller Jason Williams

Anthony Edwards -> Victor Oladipo

Deni Avdija -> Hedo Turkoglu

James Wiseman -> Dwight Howard

Killian Hayes -> James Harden/ D’Angelo Russell hybrid

Obi Toppin -> less athletic, more skilled Blake Griffin

Onyeka Okongwu -> Montrezl Harrell

Tyrese Haliburton -> Shai Gilgeous Alexander

Devin Vassell -> Josh Richardson

Isaac Okoro -> Gerald Wallace

Patrick Williams -> Tobias Harris

Aaron Nesmith -> Duncan Robinson

Tyrell Terry -> Mo Williams

Precious Achiuwa -> Richuan Holmes w/ more perimeter skill

Saddiq Bey -> Jae Crowder

Desmond Bane -> Malcolm Brogdon

Jahmius Ramsey -> Caris Levert

Tyrese Maxey -> poor man’s Donovan Mitchell

Cole Anthony -> poor man’s Jamal Murray

Paul Reed -> Nerlens Noel w/ more perimeter skill

Tyler Bey -> Jonathan Isaac

Josh Green -> Justin Anderson w/ more skill/upside

RJ Hampton -> Terrance Ferguson

Immanuel Quickley -> Kentavious Caldwell Pope with more range

Jalen Smith -> Christian Wood
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lol never trust any of these player comps.

This draft is considered to be really really weak. And i also read that pretty much every 2021 Top-10 prospect would go #1 this year...
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lol never trust any of these player comps.

This draft is considered to be really really weak. And i also read that pretty much every 2021 Top-10 prospect would go #1 this year...
It’s weak on stars, but there are some damn fine starters/journeymen

It's a good thing we have a HOF star already.

We can use another star, but we can get out of the first round with just 1-2 more starting-caliber guys.
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Itís weak on stars, but there are some damn fine starters/journeymen

It's a good thing we have a HOF star already.

We can use another star, but we can get out of the first round with just 1-2 more starting-caliber guys.


Yeah people are underestimating how deep this draft is -- there are definitely 31 descent prospects and that is all that matters for us.

There seems to be a lot of anecdotal "this draft sucks" going around and I attribute that to the fact that there is no consensus top guy(s).
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Some player comps -- to me looks like one of the deeper drafts I've seen -- Mavs have a real shot at 18 & 31 both to walk away with good players


LaMelo Ball -> taller Jason Williams

Anthony Edwards -> Victor Oladipo

Deni Avdija -> Hedo Turkoglu

James Wiseman -> Dwight Howard

Killian Hayes -> James Harden/ DíAngelo Russell hybrid

Obi Toppin -> less athletic, more skilled Blake Griffin

Onyeka Okongwu -> Montrezl Harrell

Tyrese Haliburton -> Shai Gilgeous Alexander

Devin Vassell -> Josh Richardson

Isaac Okoro -> Gerald Wallace

Patrick Williams -> Tobias Harris

Aaron Nesmith -> Duncan Robinson

Tyrell Terry -> Mo Williams

Precious Achiuwa -> Richuan Holmes w/ more perimeter skill

Saddiq Bey -> Jae Crowder

Desmond Bane -> Malcolm Brogdon

Jahmius Ramsey -> Caris Levert

Tyrese Maxey -> poor manís Donovan Mitchell

Cole Anthony -> poor manís Jamal Murray

Paul Reed -> Nerlens Noel w/ more perimeter skill

Tyler Bey -> Jonathan Isaac

Josh Green -> Justin Anderson w/ more skill/upside

RJ Hampton -> Terrance Ferguson

Immanuel Quickley -> Kentavious Caldwell Pope with more range

Jalen Smith -> Christian Wood
Just curious if you made the comps yourself or pulled them from somewhere
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Made them myself for the most part but did have a couple of ideas originate from YouTube videos.
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ESPN has historically been the most accurate and they currently have

18 - Saddiq Bey



Villanova guys are well coached and hit the ground running well. Really like Saddiq between his maturity, fundamentals, defense, ability to hit the three (45%), ability to play off ball, etc. He may only fall because of his age (21), but that may actually make him more ready to contribute in 2021 and 2022. Older players maybe have less upside, but they're statistically more likely to contribute earlier.

31 - Udoka Azubuike
https://www.nba.com/draft/2020/prosp...oka-azubuike#/

Seems like a really solid center with a solid set of skills down low and high IQ getting open. Physical specimen. Seems like Ayton without the jumper. I'm not opposed to getting a big who can roll, catch lobs, block shots, and be physically imposing. I just think we already have KP, Powell, Kleber, Boban, and maybe even WCS on the roster. Powell, KP, Kleber all have long-term contracts so only WCS and Boban are potentially expiring.

They have some other really interesting guys on the board at 31 that I'd prefer more

Guys available at 31 according to ESPN's mock
Tyler Bey (35), Quickley (58)
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New Athletic Mock:

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The NBA season is over, which means it’s time to update the 2020 NBA Mock Draft as we officially head into the offseason. Where do we go from here? Good question, as the NBA and the Players’ Association haven’t even so much as agreed on when the 2020-21 season will start, let alone what the salary cap will be for teams to make maneuvers within this coming offseason.

Really, the only thing we know is that the draft is scheduled to be held on November 18. That means teams will have a bit more time to maneuver than in most seasons, when the draft is held just days after the end of the Finals. And of course, teams have already had that time to formulate a strategy, because the draft is being held five months later than normal. A seemingly interminable draft process finally has a light at the end of the tunnel both for players anxious to be picked and player personnel folks ready to stop overanalyzing every second that players played on tape this season.

And yet, there is more uncertainty surrounding this draft than any that I’ve covered. Why? Four reasons.

First, the top of the draft class is not very strong in comparison to other classes. There are questions surrounding every single player in this draft, and substantial ones to boot.

Second, the class is actually seen as relatively deep, with potentially strong role players having a real chance to sit around until midway through the second round. Why is that a problem? Because of the pandemic and the new economic reality for NBA teams, sources around the league think it’s likely that teams will try to utilize two-way contracts and stashes earlier in this draft than in recent years. Will players who think they are good enough to make teams out of training camp — and I do believe that there are a lot of them who should feel that way in this class — be willing to take two-ways? Or will some players choose to go undrafted — like Lu Dort and Terence Davis last season — in order to get to choose their spot and try to set themselves up for a bigger payday sooner?

Third, the NBA has finally just lifted its rule this week restricting contact with prospects. Each NBA team is now allowed 10 in-person visits with prospects, allowing them to gain the important information they need to make informed decisions on who they’re taking. However, that’s a much more muted number of visits than in the past. Even though this is a change in favor of teams getting more information than they’ve had previously in the 2020 process, it’s still less information than what they’ve had throughout the process previously. Additionally, the NBA’s attempt at a virtual combine appears to falling on deaf ears for some clients and agencies, as the NBA is a bit unlikely to get the kind of high-level participation that it hoped for.

Finally, the teams at the top of this draft are not seen as sure things to make those picks. Particularly, Minnesota’s No. 1 overall pick and Golden State’s No. 2 overall pick are on the trade market, and are seen as real threats to be moved. But in a draft seen as not all that strong at the top, will those teams be able to find dancing partners at the trade table?

The 2020 NBA Draft is a fascinating mess that has some executives ready to try to mine for value in spots, and other executives ready to move on into the 2021 class, which is a much stronger draft in terms of talent by leaps and bounds. Here’s where we stand heading into the process over the course of the next month.

First Round
1. Minnesota Timberwolves
LaMelo Ball | 6-6 guard | 18 years old | Illawarra Hawks
For now, I’m sticking with Ball at No. 1. But I do so with little confidence. This pick comes with a larger degree of uncertainty than any No. 1 overall pick since the 2013 NBA Draft when the Cavaliers shocked the world and took Anthony Bennett at the top.

Why so much uncertainty? First and foremost, there is not a singular talent in this draft. Teams are all over the map in terms of who they like at the top. In that vein, the Timberwolves are doing due diligence on all of the top prospects. That also includes Ball, Anthony Edwards, and, yes, James Wiseman, despite the presence of Karl-Anthony Towns. I don’t think they’ll ultimately go the direction of Wiseman — hence why he’s not the pick here — but they’ve done enough work into him to where it would be wrong to totally take him off the table despite the positional overlap, per sources. Ultimately, though, this is kind of the issue for the Wolves. None of the three players who most executives consider to have the highest upside in this class particularly fit with the Wolves. Edwards and Ball are ball-dominant and poor defenders, skills that don’t particularly fit next to Towns and D’Angelo Russell. Wiseman is a center who would struggle to play with Towns even though his defensive prowess would help Minnesota.

So with that being said, there is a real feeling that the president of basketball operations, Gersson Rosas, is also looking into every conceivable trade avenue. Finding one that fits is going to be tricky. Because the league is generally down on the talent at the top, they aren’t placing quite as big of a premium on having the No. 1 overall pick as in normal years. In my estimation, a trade is still the best option for Minnesota, even if the return is a bit more muted than what we’ve seen in past No. 1 overall pick trades. Based more on logic than actual reporting, given Rosas’ tendency to maneuver and swing deals and based on what the team currently has on its roster, I’m absolutely not convinced that Minnesota will be the team picking at No. 1. And even if they do make the pick, it seems like from their decision to do work on all of the top prospects that they may just take the player they think has the best chance of maintaining long-term trade value. After all, Rosas comes from the Houston school of thought, where Daryl Morey tends to evaluate players not only based on what he thinks they can bring to his team, but based on what they could return down the road.

In general, this level of uncertainty just about a month away from draft night speaks to how Minnesota has done a great job of masking their intentions thus far by casting the net as wide as possible. There isn’t really a consensus industry-wide on what they’re going to do. That’s a credit to Rosas and company in what will likely be one of the most important decisions made of his tenure.

2. Golden State Warriors
James Wiseman | 7-1 center | 19 years old, freshman | Memphis (sort of)
The Warriors have also done a good job of masking their intentions, although they’re going about it in a very different way. Unlike Minnesota going relatively secretive, the Warriors are leaky. One week they like Tyrese Haliburton. Another week it’s Anthony Edwards. One week they like James Wiseman. Another week they like Onyeka Okongwu more than Wiseman.

I think there is some truth to some of the stuff being thrown out there. For instance, I do think that if they move back on draft night, Haliburton is someone they really like and could target if he’s still on the board. But that front office does tend to be very talkative, and the Warriors know what they are doing when they talk to reporters. The front office started the smoke screen process earlier than anyone else this year, using its willingness to engage with reporters to its advantage.

Why are they doing this? I think they’re trying to mask their intentions in order for the pick to retain trade value. If opposing teams don’t know who they’re actually interested in, it’s easy for doubt to creep into the minds of the teams below them about whether they have to jump the Warriors to get their guy. Do they have to make a deal? Can they wait? The Warriors are making it tough to know. One thing that is sure: the Warriors are really exploring a lot of trade options with this pick, and I think I’d be surprised if they end up selecting at No. 2.

I’ve slid Wiseman up to No. 2, not because I think the Warriors are necessarily likely to take him, but rather because I think he’s the most likely target for a team in a trade. Having talked to sources who have seen Wiseman work out in Miami, there is some real enthusiasm about his play. He’s looked dominant in workouts and in the runs with other high-level NBA Draft prospects. A lot of executives I’ve spoken with actually consider Wiseman to be among the safer players in the draft. Simply put, few executives doubt that his size, length and athleticism will translate into being a starting quality NBA center. Where the disagreement comes is with whether or not he has star upside, something that is necessary for a team to be willing to take a center at the top of the draft in today’s day and age. Some think his defensive ability on the interior does bring that kind of upside. Others are less convinced. Ultimately though, I do think Wiseman is more likely to go somewhere in the top-five than just about any other prospect.

One final factor worth noting here: where the salary cap settles for next season after the players association and league collectively bargains it has a chance to really impact the Warriors decision-making. Many people are assuming the Warriors will use their $17.2 million to acquire a win-now player. But what happens if the salary cap comes back lower than expected? And fans aren’t allowed in arenas for all of the 2020-21 season, meaning that the team can’t charge exorbitant prices for seats at the newly constructed Chase Center? Will the team be as willing to use that exception on a win-now player salary next year? Or will they potentially have to punt it? Or, are they more likely to want to attach the pick to that exception in order to expend that salary on someone who can actually help them field an even better product in 2020-21? Could they potentially aim lower and use the pick and the exception to acquire a younger player whose salary is much lower than the $17.2 million exception? The Warriors can get creative with how they expend these assets, but it matters for them as much as any other team in the league where the salary cap number settles for next season, and in conjunction with that number, where the luxury tax threshold will be.

3. Charlotte Hornets
Anthony Edwards | 6-5 guard | 19 years old, freshman | Georgia
There was a thought out there early in the season that the team liked Wiseman. He does fit the roster perfectly. The team has a pair of guards it really likes in Devonte Graham and Terry Rozier. It has a pair of forwards it likes in PJ Washington and Miles Bridges. Wiseman would work. I do think that if he’s on the board for them at No. 3, he’s the most likely option. But here, Wiseman is gone.
In general though, the Hornets just desperately need stars. They don’t really have the guy to build around, despite having a good core of young players and a strong developmental coaching staff who has gotten the most out of those players. On one hand, I think they could be a threat to move up and try to target the specific guy they want at No. 1. If they have someone considerably higher than anyone else on their board, I don’t hate that move. On the other, they should also feel relatively comfortable just waiting to see which of the top-three prospects falls to them at No. 3, with the knowledge that all three fit really well. Ball is a big guard whose playmaking and passing would fit really well with the scoring mentality of their smaller lead guards. Wiseman fits the aforementioned positional need. And Edwards does have the kind of high-level shot creation, scorer upside that the Hornets could really use.

On Edwards, there is a thought that some teams aren’t quite as enamored with him as others. That is definitely an accurate sentiment that teams are a bit more all-over-the-map on him than what you see in the public sphere. I have noted throughout the pre-draft process that Edwards’ teams simply have just never won games at a high level of competition. His decision-making, basketball IQ, and defensive desire has absolutely come into question. The name Dion Waiters does come up with some executives who are lower on him, wondering why Edwards is so willing to settle for jumpers instead of using his athleticism to bully his way to the rim. I don’t think those are inaccurate sentiments, which is why I have Edwards at No. 3 on my board. Having said that, the reason I still have him as high as No. 3 is that the athletic tools, and the ability to get to his jump shot, and the potential to be an elite creator going toward the rim is special. He’s an elite-level NBA athlete who can get his own shot at any time, and that’s the most important skill any NBA player can have in today’s league from the 2.

4. Chicago Bulls
Deni Avdija | 6-9 forward | 19 years old | Maccabi Tel-Aviv
This pick does not change. New president of basketball operations Arturas Karnisovas played a significant role in the most successful international scouting departments in recent years with the Denver Nuggets before being elevated to his prior role within the organization. He’ll have a good feel for Avdija, who has enamored scouts with versatility on the ball at 6-foot-9. He’s much more of a point forward type than a lead ballhandler a la Luka Doncic, but his dexterity with the ball in the open court is impressive, and he can make terrific passes both out of pick-and-roll and out on the break. The key question here is the jump shot, as Avdija has been quite inconsistent throughout the course of his career.
Regardless, he actually fits really well with this roster. The Bulls could use someone with the frontcourt ball skills of Avdija, as Lauri Markkanen is more of a shooter, and Wendell Carter is more of a screen setter and dribble handoff guy who can make smart reads. If the team believes Avdija could play some 3 and handle the secondary ballhandler responsibilities, I’d love his fit next to Coby White as well, given that White is much more scoring-inclined than the typical guard.

Having said that, Karnisovas is being very methodical in his decision-making to start his Bulls’ career. He’s evaluating everything step-by-step. Sources around the league are unclear on if he’ll decide to ride with this core through the early part of the season or decide to start reshaping it in this offseason with some moves.

5. Cleveland Cavaliers
Obi Toppin | 6-9 forward/center | 22 years old, sophomore | Dayton
This stays the same from last month. The two names I’ve gotten most often when asking around about the Cavaliers are Avdija, who went No. 4 here, and Toppin. That certainly doesn’t mean those are the only two names they’re considering. And again, I don’t think any team has made anything resembling a final decision on even what its board looks like, let alone how it is going to use a specific pick. There is a thought that wings Isaac Okoro and Devin Vassell are also on the table. But both Avdija and Toppin make sense in the grand scheme of how Cleveland operates. Avidja would bring a degree of playmaking that is necessary to a team with two scoring guards running the show in Collin Sexton and Darius Garland. In Toppin, the Cavs would get an elite-level screen-and-roll big who can pop, short-roll, or get all the way to the basket. Pairing him with Drummond would give the Cavs’ young guards a ton of options on offense.

I’ll just note that I wouldn’t necessarily be the biggest fan of this pick, though, as Toppin wouldn’t help the Cavs’ defense at all. That’s going to be a necessity for the team to focus on moving forward, as they’ve built one of the worst defenses in league history over the last two years. However, general manager Koby Altman and the rest of that front office tend to operate on a “best player available” strategy as it refers to the NBA Draft, and tend not to really worry about fit and position when selecting players. They just want to find the best guys who have the most upside to be stars. Again, it’s not a strategy I totally agree with, but it’s at least a coherent, consistent, logical thought process.

6. Atlanta Hawks
Tyrese Haliburton | 6-5 guard | 20 years old, sophomore | Iowa State
This one also does not change. What I said then still stands this pick fills two legitimate needs for the Hawks. First and foremost, they desperately need a long-term answer as a backup point guard next to Young. Haliburton can handle that role, something that significantly hindered the Hawks last year if you look at Young’s on/off numbers. Second, Haliburton would absolutely excel at playing with Young. He’s a terrific shooter off the catch, having hit 41.9 percent of his 3s this season. Defensively, he’s somewhat weak on-ball, but he’s a monstrous team defender who constantly lives in passing lanes and is exceptionally reactionary to what happens around him.

The Hawks will also be in the mix for other wings such as Okoro, Vassell, and more. Also, teams have noted not to count out head of basketball ops Travis Schlenk in trade discussions, as he tends to be aggressive in making moves to acquire the exact players that he wants on draft day.

7. Detroit Pistons
Isaac Okoro | 6-6 wing | 19 years old, freshman | Auburn
New general manager Troy Weaver will undoubtedly want to leave his imprint on this team in his first draft. As a piece of the puzzle intricately involved with the Thunder’s scouting process over the last decade, Weaver is considered a really sharp basketball mind when it refers to the draft and player projection. The guys the Thunder have tended to value over that time are guys with great athletic traits, great frames, and terrific background reports of hard work.

Okoro fits those billings to a ‘T.’ He’s one of the best athletes in this class at combining explosive athleticism and powerful strength. Defensively, he’s terrific both on the ball and in help situations. He’s known as an incredibly hard worker and a good kid who has a professional demeanor. He struggles to shoot it, but the Thunder have always undervalued shooting woes, as well, thinking of them as fixable over time. Okoro makes a lot of sense given Weaver’s past. There is also a thought that they like a similar prospect here in Patrick Williams out of Florida State, and this pick starts Williams’ potential draft range.

8. New York Knicks
Devin Vassell | 6-5 wing | 19 years old, sophomore | Florida State
The Knicks are one of the tougher teams to project in the lottery right now for a couple of reasons. First, the team has holes all over the roster and could reasonably pick just about any type of player outside of the center position. Second, we simply don’t know what this new front office is going to value in players. Scott Perry is still the general manager, but Leon Rose is calling the shots and the team has a new coach that tends to devalue the contributions of young players throughout his time in the NBA in Tom Thibodeau.

So why Vassell? A couple of reasons to look at why he’ll be high on the Knicks’ board (even if I don’t totally love the pick). First and foremost, the team does have a desperate need next to R.J. Barrett on the wing. Second, he does a lot of the dirty work and gritty stuff that the team should want to try to shelter Barrett from as he develops. Vassell is a terrific on-ball and team defender, and he can knock down shots to help space the floor for New York. I personally don’t see a ton of star upside for Vassell, as he’s not really much of a pull-up shooter and not really a guy that makes high-level passing reads on offense. But he should fit in nicely as a starting-caliber wing early in his career. It also doesn’t hurt that Vassell is repped by CAA, meaning those now in charge of the Knicks should be a bit more well-acquainted with his game than potentially some other prospects.

9. Washington Wizards
Onyeka Okongwu | 6-9 center | 19 years old, freshman | USC
This pick does not change from the previous mock, and it’s one of my favorites here. Okongwu just fits almost everything the Wiz look for. He is a powerful, defense-first guy. Defensively, he can slide his feet on the perimeter, and his presence would really be helpful to John Wall as a rim-running threat that neither Thomas Bryant nor Mo Wagner provide. He’s also the kind of high-character player that Tommy Sheppard has tried to look for since taking over, while also giving them a bit of an edge due to his motor and aggressiveness. This would be a major win for the Wizards, although I think his range starts as high as No. 3 or so. I’d be pretty surprised to see him get outside of the top-10.

10. Phoenix Suns
Killian Hayes | 6-5 guard | 18 years old, freshman | Ulm
As referenced in the previous mock, the Suns are said to also be heavily evaluating the point guard position in this class. It wouldn’t stun me to see them try to necessarily move up to try to get one that they like in the top five, or slide back into a better range for those guards (although as the Suns proved last year when they took Cam Johnson, if they like a guy, they’re not afraid to reach).
In this case though, a good point guard falls to them in Hayes. He’s all over the board for evaluators across the league, from a few having him in the top-five to a few having him just outside of the lottery. Some really love his feet and passing ability and think he’s going to turn into a real starting option at the lead guard spot and someone who affects winning. Those evaluators also tend to buy into his pull-up jumper being translatable to more situations than it’s shown so far in his career, as he’s really struggled to hit 3-point shots. Others have him near the end of or outside of the lottery. Those evaluators worry about his explosiveness and his athleticism, in addition to the shot.

This is right around where I have Hayes on my board, and it’d be a really strong fit for a Suns’ team that is building a big backcourt. Hayes’ ability to play on the ball would be a huge help to push Devin Booker off of it occasionally. Ultimately though, the key is going to be whether or not Hayes can improve his catch-and-shoot jumper to the point where he can consistently knock down those shots and allow him to play off the ball next to Booker.

11. San Antonio Spurs
Patrick Williams | 6-8 forward/wing | 18 years old, freshman | Florida State
Williams should be considered one of the big risers of this draft class. The more teams watch him and his tape, the interested they are in his upside. He’s enormous at 6-foot-8 with a near-7-foot wingspan. He is already 225 pounds, but looks like due to his enormous shoulders he’s going to be able to put on great weight. His defensive instincts in help are outrageously good, and he’s an underrated playmaker with ball in hand. There is a very real shot that he goes somewhere in the top-10.

Here, I’ve got Williams at No. 11. Teams really, really like him and think he’s a good upside flier to take in this class. The Spurs could really use a player exactly like this. Someone who can play multiple positions and defend all over the court. His reactivity on defense will absolutely be attractive to them. And even though he’s raw offensively, this team has had better luck working with raw tools than most in the past. I will also note that the Spurs are said to be deeply evaluating the big men in this class across the spectrum, from Isaiah Stewart and Daniel Oturu to Precious Achiuwa and Jalen Smith. I don’t know that they’d take one of those guys at No. 11. But could they move back to try to take one?

12. Sacramento Kings
R.J. Hampton | 6-5 guard | 19 years old | New Zealand Breakers
Hampton slides up the board here from No. 21 to No. 12. It’s hard for me to see him getting outside of the lottery at this stage. I’ve broken down the reasons for that in a deeper dive recently here at The Athletic. His range seems to be anywhere from No. 7 down to No. 15 or so. At 14, Boston has an interest in a bigger guard to develop with scoring instincts. And at 15, Orlando loves toolsy young players and could use another option as a scoring guard.

For the Kings particularly, Buddy Hield seems to be on his way out via trade if his behavior on social media is any indication, and Bogdan Bogdanovic is a restricted free agent this summer that the team will need to make a decision on paying real dollars to under a new regime led by Monte McNair. McNair comes from the Daryl Morey tree much like Gersson Rosas, and the Morey tree tends to go upside hunting in the draft, feeling like they can find role players much more easily than stars. It wouldn’t be surprising to see McNair take a similar approach, but any option would seem to be up in the air.

13. New Orleans Pelicans
Aaron Nesmith | 6-6 wing | 20 years old, sophomore | Vanderbilt
The Pelicans need to surround Zion Williamson, Brandon Ingram, and Jrue Holiday with shooters. J.J. Redick is great, but he’s not exactly getting any younger. So here, how about drafting one of this class’s high-level, elite shooters in Nesmith? Nesmith hit about 52 percent of his 3s this season. While that came against weaker competition and likely overstates his shooting ability a bit, he does have a strong shot to be a 40-plus percent NBA 3-point shooter from a variety of situations.

At Vanderbilt this season, Jerry Stackhouse devised a ton of creative little flare screens and pindowns to get Nesmith open on the back end of actions. Redick has been working within those kind of actions for over a decade now, and it would really help Nesmith to be around Redick for the first year of his career in order to help develop that skill even further. Plus, at 6-foot-6 with a 6-foot-10 wingspan, Nesmith has enough size to move all across the positional spectrum and help his team win games. He’s not an elite defender by any stretch, but he’s not going to kill you out there.

14. Boston Celtics (via MEM)
Kira Lewis Jr. | 6-3 guard | 19 years old, sophomore | Alabama
The Celtics do have a real need at the backup point guard position. Brad Wanamaker is a free agent, and the team just generally needs more firepower off the bench with better offensive depth. Lewis doesn’t necessarily fit their typical draft strategy of trying to find stronger, more physically prepared guys in the draft. Romeo Langford, Grant Williams, Carsen Edwards, Semi Ojeleye, Robert Williams, Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum all had much stronger, better frames. But Lewis would be a terrific fit off the bench playing the Terry Rozier role for Boston early in his career, then have a good chance to transition into being the point guard of the future right as Kemba Walker’s contract expires in three years.
He averaged 18.5 points, 4.9 rebounds and 5.2 assists per game. He also hit 36.6 percent of his 3-point attempts and snatched 1.8 steals for the second-straight season. That makes him one of three high-major players in the last three decades to hit those numbers. He was remarkably productive for having played the majority of his sophomore season at 18 years old. More importantly, though, he started to slow down and become an even more impressive halfcourt distributor and playmaker. His live-dribble passing took a leap this season, and I think that would mesh well within this offense. Most importantly, I think he can play off the ball, too, due to his shooting ability, meaning he can play both the backup point guard spot and with the starters given how much Tatum figures to keep transition into an on-ball wing in future years.

15. Orlando Magic
Precious Achiuwa | 6-9 forward/center | 20 years old, freshman | Memphis
Yeah, look, this is the last thing Orlando needs. Another 4/5 hybrid forward with defensive acumen. They’ve just taken Aaron Gordon, Jonathan Isaac, Chuma Okeke, Mo Bamba, Justin Jackson, and more in recent years. But you know what? At the end of the day, this front office has a type, and it’s hard to ignore that type. They love guys with elite athletic tools and positional size and length. And at 6-foot-9 with a 7-foot-2.5 wingspan and a 9-foot-plus standing reach, Achiuwa ticks every box that Orlando tends to look for from its draft picks under Jeff Weltman and John Hammond. He plays incredibly hard with an extremely high-level motor. He can guard 1 through 5 out on the court, and was an extremely underrated rim protector this season for Memphis. The big questions come on offense, as Achiuwa is not a particularly good shooter, and isn’t an instinctive passer despite often wanting to float out on the perimeter as a pseudo 3-man.

16. Portland Trail Blazers
Saddiq Bey | 6-8 wing | 20 years old, sophomore | Villanova
Hard to find a better fit than this for Portland. The Blazers could really use more help on the wing, particularly in regard to size and shooting ability. Bey is 6-foot-8 with a near 7-foot wingspan, and he knocked down 45 percent of his 3s this past season. He’s also a smart player who learned under Jay Wright, and as we’ve seen in recent years, Villanova guys have tended to have a much easier transition into the NBA than most collegiate programs. The Blazers are in their win-now window with Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum, and need to keep adding players who can win sooner rather than later.

Having said that, Portland under Neil Olshey has been much more inclined to draft young, project players with extremely high upsides, believing that is the better route than guys who can step in immediately. This would go against that, but it’s just too hard to find potentially useful shooting wings like Bey anywhere else than in the draft. Given the perfect fit, it’s tough for me to get past that, even knowing the recent draft history of Olshey.

17. Minnesota Timberwolves
Jalen Smith | 6-10 forward/center | 20 years old, sophomore | Maryland
This is a move up for Smith into the top-20. I got a few calls after mock draft 6.0 had him in the second round. Most of the feedback was that I needed to slide him up. His mix of shooting and rim protection is something a lot of NBA teams are intrigued by. He can really actually shoot it from distance at 6-foot-10 with a 7-foot wingspan. That would allow Minnesota to still potentially play 5-out while maintaining real size on the court with Smith and Towns. I’m not necessarily an enormous believer of Smith in the top-20 — I have him closer to No. 30, myself — but the sense I’ve gotten is that it’d be a pretty big surprise for him to fall out of the top-25 with how many teams like him.

So where is the worry after Smith averaged 15.5 points, 10.5 rebounds and 2.4 blocks per game? His body mechanics aren’t particularly fluid and don’t lend themselves to defending on the perimeter. He might be more of a tweener than a true 4. He’s very still and doesn’t get good bend, and could get blown by with relative ease if teams aren’t able to improve his flexibility. But if they can, this is a great spot for Smith to land in Minnesota because he’d fill a lot of different roles well. I just tend to be a bit more skeptical of positional tweeners who play a bit stiff and don’t have crazy length.

18. Dallas Mavericks
Aleksej Pokusevski | 7-0 center | 18 years old | Olympicacos B
Pokusevski remains this draft’s wild card in every way. A Serbian-Greek center for Olympiacos’ second team, Pokusevski is a 7-footer with legitimately terrific shooting potential and terrific athleticism. He is seen as an interesting long-term play as the league continues to look for floor spacing from the frontcourt. He moves like a wing and has a 7-3 wingspan. He can pass the ball at a high level. In the second division Greek league, he averaged 10.8 points, 7.9 rebounds, 3.1 assists and over a steal and a block in just 23 minutes per game. That production is terrific, but what scouts are struggling with is that the standard of basketball in the second tier of Greece is not particularly high.

At that level, Pokusevski attacks closeouts like a wing, makes passes on the move and beats everyone down the floor consistently with his speed. Remember, scouts struggled with this while evaluating Giannis Antetokounmpo, which is how he ended up going No. 15. Genuinely, when an elite player is down at that level, it’s just hard to tell exactly where his game is.

But what happens when he’s not the most athletic person on the court, anymore? His slight frame is a major concern at under 200 pounds, and he realistically can’t play at the NBA level next year. But beyond that, he also needs to display a better feel for the game as well. His shot selection is all over the map, and he’s a consistent rover on defense who just tries to make things happen. Again, though, it’s just obscenely hard to find 7-footers with this kind of athleticism and these kinds of tools.

You could tell me he goes anywhere from the late lottery to the end of the first round, and I think I would buy it. The upside is tremendous, and I think Dallas would particularly have a good read on him given that international director of player personnel Tony Ronzone is among the best in the business. But yeah, his range is extremely wide.

19. Brooklyn Nets (via PHI)
Cole Anthony | 6-3 guard | 20 years old, freshman | North Carolina
This pick is a prime candidate to be traded to a team that wants to pay to pick up an extra first-round pick. The Nets could very easily choose to move off of this pick in a deal involving Taurean Prince to induce another team to take his salary in order for the Nets to clear out salary space in their budget to sign Joe Harris, depending on what ownership tells Sean Marks and company it’s willing to spend this season in luxury tax. Prince has about two years, $25 million left on his deal, and I think a few teams out there would be smart to take that if the Nets are offering this pick in addition to that deal. Maybe they won’t have to move off of salary, but with the new economic world of the NBA could make things a bit tougher for everyone, especially with the cap looking likely to stay relatively flat as opposed to spiking. And for me, Harris is an essential re-sign for a team that looks primed to shoot into contending with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant healthy next year.

If they keep the pick, Anthony is an interesting one for a team that could use another option at the backup point guard spot. He’s one of the toughest players to peg, with as wide a draft range as nearly anyone. He’s extremely divisive, depending on which evaluator you talk to. Some people do think of him as a legit lottery-level talent due to his on-court toughness, ability to get separation and shot-making ability. Those teams see him as a potential starting point guard. After all, he did average 18.5 points and 4.0 assists as a freshman. Other evaluators see him in a much lesser light. They worry that he’s a 6-foot-2 shooting guard who isn’t an elite shooter and who wants to dominate the ball a bit beyond what his skillset would allow. Those scouts tend to see him as a bench guard who will definitely be an NBA player, but won’t be a difference-maker worth selecting high. The name “Austin Rivers” has come up a lot when discussing Anthony due to his inefficiency.

Anywhere from late lottery to the late first round is in play for Anthony.

20. Miami Heat
Tyrese Maxey | 6-3 guard | 19 years old, freshman | Kentucky
The Heat have obviously had incredible success in recent years selecting Kentucky players. Tyler Herro stands out from last year. The team did like PJ Washington as well, who turned out to be a strong rookie in Charlotte and went the pick before Herro. Bam Adebayo has morphed into one of the NBA’s best big men. And Pat Riley’s overall affinity for Kentucky players is well established.

If you buy into Maxey being a secondary ballhandler who can shoot, this pick makes sense. Kendrick Nunn has not been reliable in the playoffs, and Goran Dragic is a free agent this year. Maxey is a tough kid with a terrific, powerful frame that looks like that of a free safety. He’s 6-foot-3 with a 6-foot-6 wingspan. That often fits in Miami. He also has a real personality to him and is thought to be a great kid and a tremendous worker. More than the non-basketball stuff, though, Maxey is a real threat as an on-ball scoring guard with great craft. He finishes well at the basket, has a terrific floater game and does a great job getting downhill to get into the paint. He’s also a strong on-ball defender.

Ultimately, the big question here is the jumper and what level it gets to. Everyone around the industry is agreed that he is a better shooter than his 29 percent mark from 3 showed last year. But is he a 35 percent shooter? Does he have a chance to get up to 39 percent in the right circumstance? That number is going to tell the tale of how far Maxey goes in his career as a useful player. There probably isn’t a better place for him to land than Miami if that’s the question mark, though. The Heat have developed confident players to work within their jump shot extremely well in recent years.

21. Philadelphia 76ers (via OKC)
Desmond Bane | 6-5 guard | 22 years old, senior | TCU
This is a bit of a spike for Bane up to No. 21. Sources around the league have begun noting that they’d be surprised if he got out of the first round right now, simply because almost every team at the bottom of the first round could make a reasonable case for selecting him. Miami really values shooting and is said to be a fan. Denver could use another wing shooter. Utah could use another wing shooter and two-way player. Milwaukee could certainly use another reliable shot-maker next to Giannis. Boston tends to value these big, strong wings with size and shooting ability, and they have two picks in this range. The Lakers will continue to work to surround LeBron James and Anthony Davis with shooters going forward. And of course, no team could use shooting more than Philadelphia, who desperately needs to surround Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid with more floor-spacing.

In his four years at TCU, Bane made 43.3 percent of his near-600 3-point attempts. He also improved a lot this year as an option with the ball in his hands. The big concern here is that he’s 6-foot-6 with a negative wingspan that hinders him when contesting shooters both on-ball and when closing out. However, he has good strength and knows where to be defensively. He should turn into a solid role-playing floor-spacer at the next level, and I have a late first-round grade on him. He’s been a riser throughout the pre-draft process for a lot of the reasons mentioned above. He’s gone into interviews and has been impressive with his understanding of how he’s going to operate at the next level. The name Joe Harris has come up a lot from front offices.

22. Denver Nuggets
Josh Green | 6-6 wing | 19 years old, freshman | Arizona
NBA scouts and coaches who played Arizona this year raved about Green’s defensive ability. He’s terrific on the ball, with great skill for taking on multiple different types of players. You can toss him on guards and he can both them with his strength, or you can toss him on wings where his lateral quickness works to his advantage. Denver will continue to build out its wing depth around core pieces Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray. And with Michael Porter Jr. looking to possess tremendous upside, they may have also found the 4 man of the future there, too. So basically, look for Denver to keep taking flyers on wings, especially with Paul Millsap and Jerami Grant entering free agency this year. They’re more of the 4-type, but they played a lot with Porter-Jokic frontcourts.

For Green, the big question is what level the jumper gets to. He hit 36 percent from distance on over 100 attempts from 3 last season, but his mechanics aren’t particularly strong and will take some real work. There is a slight hitch and an unnatural elbow bend that it would be beneficial for him to work through from a consistency perspective. If any team feels confident they can work with him on that, he should be a solid role player for a lot of years due to his motor, athleticism, and that aforementioned defensive prowess.

23. Utah Jazz
Jaden McDaniels | 6-10 forward | 19 years old, freshman | Washington
McDaniels was all over the map this year. In his first 11 games against weak competition, McDaniels averaged 15 points, five rebounds and three assists while playing strong defense against non-conference foes. In the final 20 games against largely Pac-12 competition, he averaged 11.8 points while shooting 38 percent from the field. The talent is obviously tantalizing, as he’s a 6-foot-10 forward with ball skill and potential to shoot it. Sometimes, those types of guys who are also skinny have problems adapting to the tight spacing of the college game. However, he also showed intermittent flashes of immaturity and emotion, resulting in six technical fouls and poor body language on the court. He also fouled out a somewhat astounding eight times while playing on the wing (over one-quarter of his games played), while also not really displaying a high-level feel for the game. He had a strongly negative assist-to-turnover ratio, and those turnovers don’t even account for the shot selection-based mistakes that result in the same outcome as turnovers.

The Jazz can afford to take a risk on someone like this, a skilled offensive player who actually did show some defensive upside throughout the course of the season. The team has had great success developing talent over the last decade, so landing here would be an absolutely perfect result for McDaniels. The question just revolves around whether or not they’d rather take a risk like this, or get someone who can help them sooner rather than later for a team that fashions itself a contender. If they go that route, Xavier Tillman is said to be of interest, and Dennis Lindsey has commented that defense and defensive potential will be placed a premium.

24. Milwaukee Bucks (via IND)
Theo Maledon | 6-4 guard | 19 years old | ASVEL
The Bucks are in a fascinating spot after crashing out of the playoffs early this year. They probably need to move Eric Bledsoe in order to get a point guard in that fits more with Giannis Antetokounmpo offensively. That will likely be more of the veteran variety though, as opposed to a rookie. Having said that, bringing in a rookie who has upside but has also played a role at a high level in Euroleague competition could also be of interest to Milwaukee.

Maledon came on a bit for ASVEL late, finally getting over a shoulder injury that nagged him earlier in the season. A wiry 6-foot-4 combo guard, he has good speed on the ground, even if he’s not particularly explosive vertically. He also has good length that should allow him to guard multiple positions. That he’s carved out a role for a solid Euroleague team is impressive for an 18-year-old, especially with him having dealt with some adversity because of injury this year. He averaged 7.3 points, 1.9 rebounds and 2.7 assists while also posting relatively efficient shooting numbers in Euroleague competition. He’s a smart player, and considered to have a terrific work ethic that should allow him to reach whatever his ceiling is. The Spurs are a team to look out for on Maledon early, given that ASVEL is owned by Tony Parker. But his range is seen more realistically in the second half of the first round.

25. Oklahoma City (via DEN)
Isaiah Stewart | 6-9 center | 19 years old, freshman | Washington
Stewart’s range is considered anywhere from No. 15 to about 35. He’s one of the most liked bigs by front offices due to his terrific work ethic and motor. He was one of the most productive players in college basketball last season, averaging 17 points and nine rebounds per game with 2.1 blocks. Evaluators are also big believers in his ability to shoot the basketball. Folks who went up to Washington’s practices this season said that he was knocking shots down from distance with ease. He also hit 77 percent of his free throws. Ultimately though, Stewart will be a rim running, rim protecting 5 who rebounds it well and provides a tough interior presence.

For a team with a ton of draft picks forthcoming and a potential opening at center in the next couple of years with Steven Adams’ contract coming due, Stewart fits. He fits from a production standpoint. He fits from a youth standpoint for a team that tends to prefer drafting young guys. And he fits from a motor and work ethic standpoint for a team that has tended to put a high value on character in the draft.

26. Boston Celtics
Leandro Bolmaro | 6-8 forward | 19 years old, international | Barcelona B
Bolmaro’s range is anywhere from No. 15 to No. 35, depending who is looking to stash a relatively interesting, high-upside prospect. And indeed, he’ll officially be a stash this year, as he has decided to stay in Barcelona for this season due to the uncertainty of what the NBA looks like next year. He recently signed a three-year deal with Barcelona, so it’s possible that stash could be extended. For Boston, a stash makes a lot of sense, as I’m skeptical that the team keeps all of these picks. They also have a forthcoming roster crunch situation to deal with over the summer.

He’s a 6-foot-8 wing who can play with legitimate speed and attack at a high level off the bounce. He’s a very real playmaker with the ball in his hands for someone that is his size. His passing ability off of a live dribble is really quite strong for a wing. He’s not quite good enough at it to be a lead guard, but he can certainly be a secondary playmaker. Ultimately, the big question is what happens when he doesn’t have the ball? How does he make an impact? He’s not a particularly good shooter right now, having hit just 29 percent from 3 this season and 30.8 percent from 3 last year. In the past, Boston has tended to value big playmakers anyway. The fact that he can also be a stash makes this a no-brainer if they do end up picking at No. 26 and he’s on the board.

27. New York Knicks (via LAC)
Tre Jones | 6-2 guard | 20 years old, sophomore | Duke
Jones is all over the map for teams. Some are really big fans and think he has potential to be a starter due to his high-level basketball IQ and defensive acumen. He’s also a much better athlete than what he typically gets credit for, with great quickness and underrated leaping. But he’s not a particularly good finisher at the rim, and an inconsistent shooter, especially off the dribble. He was the ACC Player of the Year and the ACC Defensive Player of the Year after averaging after averaging 16.2 points, 4.2 rebounds and 6.4 assists while playing tough on-ball defense at the point of attack.

The Knicks certainly have use for another lead guard, and could go that direction at the top of the draft. However, there are a lot of options later in the draft, and it could behoove them to wait to get an option like Jones, Malachi Flynn, Cassius Winston, or plenty others.

28. Los Angeles Lakers
Malachi Flynn | 6-1 guard | 22 years old, junior | San Diego State
The more teams look into Flynn’s tape, the more excited they are. He was terrific on both ends of the floor this season for San Diego State, leading them to one of the best seasons in school history. He can knock down shots off the bounce at a high level, defend on the ball, and his feel for the game is remarkable. Whatever the “hooper gene” is, he’s got it. Sure, he’s undersized, but he makes up for it with a motor and work ethic that basically never quits.

The Lakers got a lot out of Rajon Rondo this season, but it’s unclear if that will continue to be the case in the future given his regular-season inconsistency and age. They should look into finding another lead guard whose feel for the game would mesh well with that of LeBron James. The big key here is that he could play with James or as the lead when James is off the court, because of that shooting ability and feel for the game.

29. Toronto Raptors
Xavier Tillman | 6-9 center | 21 years old, junior | Michigan State
I’m really high on Tillman, and he’s my favorite of the centers in the 20-40 area of the draft. He’s an undersized center prospect who doesn’t really shoot it. But he was one of the five best defenders in college basketball this past season, and is one of the best, most versatile screeners in the NCAA. He is an expert in short-roll settings, something NBA teams love from their centers because that area of the floor is typically open with the way defenses are structured now. He can roll and finish with touch inside, and has burgeoning shooting skill. This seems like a tailor-made role player at the NBA level. The Raptors have to deal with the free agency situations of Marc Gasol and Serge Ibaka this offseason, so I think it would be pretty smart for them to look for a longer-term answer at the center position who fits what they look for. And indeed, Tillman is an elite-level character kid who ticks all of the boxes for what teams look for from guys they can trust to play a role.

30. Boston Celtics (via MIL)
Robert Woodard | 6-7 wing/forward | 20 years old, sophomore | Mississippi State
The Celtics have a tendency to like these big-bodied wings who have the potential to develop. I would think they take at least one in the first round if they keep their picks. Woodard is 6-7 with a 7-foot-1 wingspan and has displayed some shooting acumen. He’s as a great kid who has gotten rave reviews from teams in interviews. He hit over 40 percent from 3 this season while averaging 11 points per game. He also has good footwork on defense that should allow him to defend perimeter players. The big key here comes with his ballhandling and quick-decision-making. He’s not particularly good at either right now, and will likely need some more time in the G League to develop those skills. Also, there is some concern about the big leap in 3-point shooting and relatively small volume. But this is a player type that the entire NBA is looking to add. He’ll be in the mix for a few teams near the end of the first round, and should almost certainly hear his name called in the top 40.

Second Round
31. Dallas Mavericks (via GSW)
Tyrell Terry | 6-1 guard | 19 years old, freshman | Stanford

32. Charlotte Hornets
Elijah Hughes | 6-7 wing | 22 years old | Syracuse

33. Minnesota Timberwolves
Zeke Nnaji | 6-10 forward/center | 19 years old, freshman | Arizona

34. Philadelphia 76ers (via ATL)
Cassius Winston | 6-1 guard | 22 years old, senior | Michigan State

35. Sacramento Kings (via DET)
Daniel Oturu | 6-10 center | 20 years old, sophomore | Minnesota

36. Philadelphia 76ers (via NYK)
Isaiah Joe | 6-5 wing | 21 years old, sophomore | Arkansas

37. Washington Wizards (via CHI)
Cassius Stanley | 6-6 wing | 20 years old, freshman | Duke

38. New York Knicks (via CHA)
Immanuel Quickley | 6-2 guard | 20 years old, sophomore | Kentucky

39. New Orleans Pelicans (via WAS)
Nico Mannion | 6-3 guard | 19 years old, freshman | Arizona

40. Memphis Grizzlies (via PHX)
Tyler Bey | 6-7 wing | 22 years old | Colorado

41. San Antonio Spurs
Udoka Azubuike | 7-0 center | 20 years old, senior | Kansas

42. New Orleans Pelicans
Sam Merrill | 6-5 guard | 24 years old, senior | Utah State

43. Sacramento Kings
Devon Dotson | 6-2 guard | 20 years old, sophomore | Kansas

44. Chicago Bulls (via MEM)
Jordan Nwora | 6-7 wing/forward | 21 years old, junior | Louisville

45. Orlando Magic
Jahmi’us Ramsey | 6-4 guard | 19 years old, freshman | Texas Tech

46. Portland Trail Blazers
Payton Pritchard | 6-2 guard | 22 years old, senior | Oregon

47. Boston Celtics (via BKN)
Skylar Mays | 6-4 guard | 22 years old, senior | LSU

48. Golden State Warriors
Killian Tillie | 6-10 forward | 22 years old, senior | Gonzaga

49. Philadelphia 76ers
Vernon Carey Jr. | 6-10 center | 18 years old, freshman | Duke

50. Atlanta Hawks (via MIA)
Jay Scrubb | 6-6 guard/wing | 20 years old, sophomore | John A. Logan College

51. Golden State Warriors (via UTA)
Grant Riller | 6-3 guard | 23 years old, senior | Charleston

52. Sacramento Kings (via HOU)
Mason Jones | 6-6 wing | 21 years old, junior | Arkansas

53. Oklahoma City Thunder
Nick Richards | 7-0 center | 22 years old, junior | Kentucky

54. Indiana Pacers
Paul Reed | 6-9 forward | 21 years old, junior | DePaul

55. Brooklyn Nets (via DEN)
Abdoulaye N’doye | 6-7 wing | 22 years old | Monaco

56. Charlotte Hornets (via BOS)
Naji Marshall | 6-7 wing | 22 years old | Xavier

57. Los Angeles Clippers
Kenyon Martin Jr. | 6-7 forward | 20 years old, post-grad | IMG Academy

58. Philadelphia 76ers (via LAL)
Josh Hall | 6-7 forward | 19 years old, post-grad | Moravian Prep

59. Toronto Raptors
Paul Eboua | 6-8 forward | 19 years old | Pesaro

60. New Orleans Pelicans (via MIL)
Justinian Jessup | 6-7 wing | 22 years old, senior | Boise State (stashed with Illawarra Hawks for 2020-21)
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There is no f'in way Terry falls to 31. Sorry, but these mocks are on crack.
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From most to least reliable

Draftexpress/ESPN - S. Bey/ Azubuike
Bleacher report - Pokusevski / N/A
Ringer - S. Bey/ Maledon
USA Today - Flynn/ Jones
SBNation - Nesmith/ NA
Sports Illustrated - Hampton/ T.Bey
Nbadraft.net - Terry/ Stewart
CBS Sports - Bane / NA
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Dont see S.Bey falling all to 18....checks all the roleplayer Wing boxes
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Dont see S.Bey falling all to 18....checks all the roleplayer Wing boxes
I mean, Bey has a better shot of falling to 18 than Terry does to 31, but amateur draft scouting seems to have gone the way of the dinosaur.
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From most to least reliable

Draftexpress/ESPN - S. Bey/ Azubuike
Bleacher report - Pokusevski / N/A
Ringer - S. Bey/ Maledon
USA Today - Flynn/ Jones
SBNation - Nesmith/ NA
Sports Illustrated - Hampton/ T.Bey
Nbadraft.net - Terry/ Stewart
CBS Sports - Bane / NA
Feel like the Ringer is more on point than the others. Finally see Kyra Lewis moving up who was mocked way too low for his potential alone. They even have Terry going 8 which seems high, but I mean, Terry/Lewis/Bey are going to offer a lot to teams. I guess who knows, but I don't see any one of those three being available to the Mavs.
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Feel like the Ringer is more on point than the others. Finally see Kyra Lewis moving up who was mocked way too low for his potential alone. They even have Terry going 8 which seems high, but I mean, Terry/Lewis/Bey are going to offer a lot to teams. I guess who knows, but I don't see any one of those three being available to the Mavs.
I like all 3 of those guys as well. Had a feeling Kira and Terry would rise. No way Terry makes it to 31, agreed. I would be thrilled with Patrick Williams, which would obviously be a move up if he falls to 12-15 range. Likely wonít heís a riser. Would be excited about Maxey or Precious or RJ or Josh Green. No to Stewart, Poku or Cole Anthony.

I still hope we keep both picks, solid draft. Heck, we might have our pick of Joe, Quickley, both Duke guards or Ty Bey Or Woodard at 31.
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Lewis had a second interview with the Suns who pick 10. That should tell you where his value currently sits.
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ESPN listened to Sefant. They now have S. Bey going 12th

We end up with Delon Wright-- I mean Maledon with the first rounder

Ramsey in the second round

Ramsey would be a steal in the second round. Dude is pretty young and needs some development, but he's got a solid set of skills already.
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I think there are 10 guys who no matter what are gone by #18:

1) Anthony Edwards
2) Deni Avdija
3) Killian Hayes
4) Lamelo Ball
5) James Wiseman
6) Onyeka Okongwu
7) Tyrese Haliburton
8) Obi Toppin
9) Isaac Okoro
10) Devin Vassell


The tier 2 and tier 3 guys are ill-defined, and all have some major flaws. That's where it'll get interesting. In no particular order:

11) Patrick Williams
12) Precious Achiuwa
13) Saddiq Bey
14) Desmond Bane
15) Aaron Nesmith
16) Josh Green
17) Kira Lewis
18) Tyrese Maxey
19) Cole Anthony
20) Tyrell Terry
21) RJ Hampton
22) Jalen Smith
23) Tyler Bey


What a draft IMO. At least 23 players who can come in and either immediately contribute or have some nice upside.
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I think there are 10 guys who no matter what are gone by #18:

1) Anthony Edwards
2) Deni Avdija
3) Killian Hayes
4) Lamelo Ball
5) James Wiseman
6) Onyeka Okongwu
7) Tyrese Haliburton
8) Obi Toppin
9) Isaac Okoro
10) Devin Vassell


The tier 2 and tier 3 guys are ill-defined, and all have some major flaws. That's where it'll get interesting. In no particular order:

11) Patrick Williams
12) Precious Achiuwa
13) Saddiq Bey
14) Desmond Bane
15) Aaron Nesmith
16) Josh Green
17) Kira Lewis
18) Tyrese Maxey
19) Cole Anthony
20) Tyrell Terry
21) RJ Hampton
22) Jalen Smith
23) Tyler Bey


What a draft IMO. At least 23 players who can come in and either immediately contribute or have some nice upside.
Which is why making ANY trade would have to be ridiculously no-brainer. The 18th pick has huge value. Even the 31st has good value.
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I think you can add Williams, Precious and Nesmith to the list of "gone for sure at #18"

Cant remember any mock where they were mocked worse than 16
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I think you can add Williams, Precious and Nesmith to the list of "gone for sure at #18"

Cant remember any mock where they were mocked worse than 16
That's the thing about this draft. I doubt we'll see even 2 superstars, but if you start saying, "nah, this guy won't be there at 18. He's too good." You end up with 20-25 guys who are all supposedly going to be drafted before 18.
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Old 10-15-2020, 06:34 PM   #239
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I honestly don’t think the Mavs will use both picks.
This is a deep roster so I think they’ll leverage this draft to attempt to upgrade the quality of our rotation either directly or indirectly via trades.

Unless there is someone on the board they feel can quickly break into the rotation and become an instant impact, I think they aggressively shop one or both picks for a proven or budding starter quality player.

I will predict that if the Mavs do pick at 31, and Poku is still available, he is their guy. He is the the ultimate Donnie type of pick and his skills and upside are a Carlisle dream.

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Old 10-15-2020, 08:48 PM   #240
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Lewis had a second interview with the Suns who pick 10. That should tell you where his value currently sits.
Or the Suns could be looking at moving back in the draft
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