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Old 11-19-2019, 11:37 AM   #81
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Yeah i still would love Frank on his team. Just dont let him be your primary playmaker. He belongs in a team with someone like Luka, Lebron or Giannis running the show
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Yeah i still would love Frank on his team. Just dont let him be your primary playmaker. He belongs in a team with someone like Luka, Lebron or Giannis running the show
He defends every play, and throws the timing of a lot of passes off, and just generally makes it more difficult for opposing guards to get comfortable.

He does fine getting a team into its offense, and getting the ball to scorers where they want it. He'd be a good secondary playmaker, settling a young team down when they get a little bit out of control.

He has a nice shot, just needs to get consistent with it, and he could look to penetrate a little more aggressively; he may not have the speed to beat small defenders off the dribble, but he could compensate with height and reach.

He should continue to attack the basket like he did against Mavs/Porzingis.

He'll be unavailable to the Mavs now, and if he's available at all, his price has gone up considerably.
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Pau Gasol waived by Blazers; left foot slow to rehab; coaching role with Blazers anticipated.

Could be a good on-court mentor for KP, if persuadable.
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The Knicks are on pace to become just the third NBA team in the last 50 years to shot below 68% from the free-throw line and 43% from the field
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Aww thats cute they gave Melo a participation trophy. I mean, player of the week.
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Coincidentally, Harden became the first to have a 50 point game shooting under 30%.

I don't even think anyone has had a 40 points game shooting under 30%....

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And the Rockets are asking that they be granted the win due to a blown call with 7:50 left in the 4th, in a game that went to double OT. They are so eminently hateable.
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And the Rockets are asking that they be granted the win due to a blown call with 7:50 left in the 4th, in a game that went to double OT. They are so eminently hateable.
...after the refs blew two really obvious out-of-bounds calls that benefitted them.

I mean, I'd be fine giving them the two points if they also took away the four points they got from those blown out-of-bounds calls.
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I've watched quite a bit of the Lakers this season, and so far what I've seen has confirmed what I felt from the moment Lebron showed up there- Anthony Davis is not only the best teammate Lebron has ever had, but he's the best teammate Lebron could have ever hoped for. AD is the teammate Lebron has needed, and has probably dreamed of his entire career. He may have won two titles with Wade and one with Kyrie, and he very well not win any with AD, but still, AD is the perfect player to maximize Lebron's abilities at this late stage of his career.

This is one of the most fascinating things to me about Lebron's career. He has always been more Magic than Michael. Lebron has always been more comfortable as a facilitator first, scorer second. However until this, his 17th year in the league, he has never had the right teammates. As phenomenally talented as Wade and Kyrie were, and as much success as Lebron had with them, they were both ball dominant guards. And as much as those guys could score, Lebron still always had to be the primary scorer and first option. The perfect teammate for Lebron has always been a super athletic big man who can shoot from anywhere and dominate off the pick and roll. Isn't it telling that Lebron is about to lead the league in assists for the first time in his career, at age 35?

AD is the guy I'm sure he hoped Kyrie would be- the guy who can carry Lebron into his twilight years. The Duncan to his Robinson.

Hate Lebron all you want. You can call him a lot of things, but the one thing you cannot call him is dumb. The dude is strategic AF. He knows what the hell he's doing. I have no doubt this is what he planned all along. He had this sh*t mapped out in his head at least a year in advance. He knew when he went to LA that he would probably have to sacrifice a year of his career, but that it would pay off big time. He knew AD was the one guy who could carry him further than anyone else, and he knew he could get him. For all last year, the talking heads wrote him off, talked of him being washed up, and how horrible his start was with the Lakers. A few short months later, his team has the best record in the league, and he's one of four leading MVP candidates. He's having the last laugh yet again... He knew what the hell he was doing.

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LeBron signed with the Lakers in July, Davis signed with Klutch in September. Planned all along.

Btw because of Davis he isnt the MVP for me

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Btw because of Davis he isnt the MVP for me
No only that, but I'd actually pick Davis as the MVP over him.
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No only that, but I'd actually pick Davis as the MVP over him.
I would too, and honestly, I don't think Lebron would have it any other way. He said from day one, both publicly and apparently behind the scenes that he wanted AD to be #1 option and for the offense to flow through AD.

That's what I mean when I say AD is the best teammate Lebron could have ever hoped for. It's funny how the basketball world sort of forgot about AD over the last year or two, while the Pels sucked and he was injured on and off. Everyone was so focused on the Kawhi's, Giannis's and Durant's of the NBA, that nobody seemed to remember that when AD is 100% he's arguably a top 5 player and an absolute superstar.
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I would too, and honestly, I don't think Lebron would have it any other way. He said from day one, both publicly and apparently behind the scenes that he wanted AD to be #1 option and for the offense to flow through AD.

That's what I mean when I say AD is the best teammate Lebron could have ever hoped for. It's funny how the basketball world sort of forgot about AD over the last year or two, while the Pels sucked and he was injured on and off. Everyone was so focused on the Kawhi's, Giannis's and Durant's of the NBA, that nobody seemed to remember that when AD is 100% he's arguably a top 5 player and an absolute superstar.
The problem is that he hasn't been able to stay 100% for long stretches, so recency bias wins out.
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The problem is that he hasn't been able to stay 100% for long stretches, so recency bias wins out.
That, but I think just as much it's being on a shitty team. People overlook that for the first couple of years of a player's career. There's like 2-3 year grace period. After that, if the team is still perpetually bad, people either (unfairly) blame the player and say he's just putting up hollow stats or something, or they just forget about him altogether.
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R. Westbrook - 7 for 27 shooting? 8 TO? who's that fool that didn't think he's a superstar?

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The Knicks are 4-18 this season. I just realized half of their total wins have come against the Mavs. Ugh.
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@townbrad: Rick Carlisle: Im happy for Fizdale to be out of that terrible mess that he had nothing to do with.

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@townbrad: Rick Carlisle: Im happy for Fizdale to be out of that terrible mess that he had nothing to do with.

I mean he's not wrong.
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I'm watching the Lakers and Wolves right now, and holy sh*t, AD really is incredible. He's got 42 pts 6 reb 5 ast 2 stl 1 blk 18-25 FG. And it's only the end of the 3rd.

Giannis is the best big man and probably the best player in the league right now, but AD is not far behind.
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AD ended the night with 50 pts 7 reb 6 ast 4 stl 1 blk 20-29 FG 10-10 FT. As that ridiculous as that stat line is, it actually doesn't do justice to how brilliant he was. What doesn't show up in the stat line- even with the 4 steals- is how much he controlled the game defensively, how many of his plays here hustle plays and momentum changers. The other thing that doesn't show up is how he utterly dominated KAT in the paint, and how well he carried the team when Lebron got in early foul trouble. At one point he got really loud MVP chants when he was at the line.

And I know I mentioned it earlier, but it really is interesting how completely in sync AD and Lebron are. Even though Lebron won 3 titles and went to 8 straight finals, I never felt that his game meshed this well with Wade or Kyrie, They both needed to handle the ball to be effective, so there was always a clash there. Lebron and AD got a real Stockton and Malone thing going.
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Fizdale firing: Necessary, but not sufficient.

Hilarious to see media types, and other coaches flock to the defense of a coaching brother.

Hard to assess him for strategy and tactics, though, when he can't even put a coheren't lineup on the floor on a consistent basis. Yeah, he was dealt a bad hand with the FA signings, but that's not a complete excuse for failing to develop a rotation, for failing to define player's individual roles, and for jerking players around and calling it 'tough love'.

He has been bad, terrible even, in two HC-stops now; will be interesting to see if, and how soon he gets another opportunity, and where. He's probably a Jim Cleamons or Quinn Buckner type, with his celing probably being as an assistant coach.

Glad to see his whinging frown of a mug gone.

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Fizdale wasn't great, but honestly I dont think any other coach could have done better with the trash roster they put together.

The team has 5+ PFs
The team has no good point guard
The team has no three point shooting
The team barely has 3 starting-caliber player
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Fizdale firing: Necessary, but not sufficient.

Hilarious to see media types, and other coaches flock to the defense of a coaching brother.

Hard to assess him for strategy and tactics, though, when he can't even put a coheren't lineup on the floor on a consistent basis. Yeah, he was dealt a bad hand with the FA signings, but that's not a complete excuse for failing to develop a rotation, for failing to define player's individual roles, and for jerking players around and calling it 'tough love'.

He has been bad, terrible even, in two HC-stops now; will be interesting to see if, and how soon he gets another opportunity, and where. He's probably a Jim Cleamons or Quinn Buckner type, with his celing probably being as an assistant coach.

Glad to see his whinging frown of a mug gone.
The problem is, that franchise has been such a sh*tshow for so long, I think those are the only candidates they can get. They're in the same position the Cleveland Browns have been in for decades now. Quality coaches stay far the F away, because they know that as long as Dolan is there, the franchise will always be dysfunctional. Yeah, they'll get a paycheck, but they won't be able to change the losing culture, and they'll walk away with their reputations damaged. Fizdale may not have been good, but firing him this soon and in this way is a really, really bad look, and only exacerbates their problems. They Knicks have been a joke for most of my life, but honestly this is probably the absolute nadir of their public perception and relationship with their fans and the media.

Like the Browns for so long, the Knicks are in true sports hell. It's the worst place a franchise can possibly be in, other than simply going bankrupt. They've been so bad for so long, the people who actually could save the franchise avoid it like the plague. Even if that weren't the case, Dolan has no idea how to hire people anyway, and will always manage to screw it up somehow. I read somewhere recently that David Griffin interviewed for the GM job and almost took it, but ended up saying no because Dolan would not allow him to fire Mills and bring in his own staff. As far as I'm concerned, that is far worse than missing out on Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. That shows that the franchise is still completely dysfunctional and will never change unless the ownership changes. That shows that the solution to their problems is right in front of them, but Dolan is too stupid to see it.

The only thing Dolan could do (other than just sell the team) is to hire the best executive he can get and just stay the hell out of their way. You give that person everything they need, and be very patient. Quit hanging your hopes landing a superstar free agent. It's not happening- at least not until you right the ship and convince the world that the franchise is stable and is being run competently. Build slowly through the draft and smart, cost-effective free agent signings- the kind that don't excite people but produce on the court. This process will take several years, and the criticism in the meantime will be crushing, but it WILL pay off in the end. This is what the Nets did. Remember, the Nets were a complete laughing stock too not that long ago, and look where they are now. The Browns have done a lot of the right things too, although their coach is still a buffoon. But like the Knicks, he was probably the best they could to at the time. Now that they've found their footing somewhat, the Browns might be able to actually attract a decent coach.

In short, Dolan needs to hire the right GM let them do their job. It would have to be real GM with a track record of success, not a washed up coach without a day of executive experience. Someone like say.. David Griffin... Oops.

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The problem is, that franchise has been such a sh*tshow for so long, I think those are the only candidates they can get. They're in the same position the Cleveland Browns have been in for decades now. Quality coaches stay far the F away, because they know that as long as Dolan is there, the franchise will always be dysfunctional. Yeah, they'll get a paycheck, but they won't be able to change the losing culture, and they'll walk away with their reputations damaged. Fizdale may not have been good, but firing him this soon and in this way is a really, really bad look, and only exacerbates their problems. They Knicks have been a joke for most of my life, but honestly this is probably the absolute nadir of their public perception and relationship with their fans and the media.

Like the Browns for so long, the Knicks are in true sports hell. It's the worst place a franchise can possibly be in, other than simply going bankrupt. They've been so bad for so long, the people who actually could save the franchise avoid it like the plague. Even if that weren't the case, Dolan has no idea how to hire people anyway, and will always manage to screw it up somehow. I read somewhere recently that David Griffin interviewed for the GM job and almost took it, but ended up saying no because Dolan would not allow him to fire Mills and bring in his own staff. As far as I'm concerned, that is far worse than missing out on Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. That shows that the franchise is still completely dysfunctional and will never change unless the ownership changes. That shows that the solution to their problems is right in front of them, but Dolan is too stupid to see it.

The only thing Dolan could do (other than just sell the team) is to hire the best executive he can get and just stay the hell out of their way. You give that person everything they need, and be very patient. Quit hanging your hopes landing a superstar free agent. It's not happening- at least not until you right the ship and convince the world that the franchise is stable and is being run competently. Build slowly through the draft and smart, cost-effective free agent signings- the kind that don't excite people but produce on the court. This process will take several years, and the criticism in the meantime will be crushing, but it WILL pay off in the end. This is what the Nets did. Remember, the Nets were a complete laughing stock too not that long ago, and look where they are now. The Browns have done a lot of the right things too, although their coach is still a buffoon. But like the Knicks, he was probably the best they could to at the time. Now that they've found their footing somewhat, the Browns might be able to actually attract a decent coach.

In short, Dolan needs to hire the right GM let them do their job. It would have to be real GM with a track record of success, not a washed up coach without a day of executive experience. Someone like say.. David Griffin... Oops.
Yes and no. My post was directed toward Fizdale, your response is focused on the Knicks. You make some fair points regarding Dolan. From my perspective, if I were Dolan, I'd have made Fizdale stay through the year, earn his contract, and be miserable in the process. Now they have a total interim placeholder, until they can reorganize management, and let the next GM make his own coaching hire. It is ominous that Dolan's preferred candidate to replace Mills (Ujiri) is an exec over whom Dolan has obsessed after Ujiri twice massively fleeced the Knicks--once in the Anthony trade, and another time in the Bargnani trade. Would Dolan actually give this guy decision-making autonomy, or try to hike his leg on him in a show of power?

I actually think that Dolan forced Mills/Perry to dismiss their hire as a message to THEM that he's not convinced of their plan, and that further changes are forthcoming. Perry will be next, and Mills, by virtue of his pathologically close relation to Dolan, will likely be 'promoted' to a position in management where he can do less damage.

Supposedly, the Donnie Walsh hiring was made at the behest of David Stern, in the wake of the Anucha Brown-Sanders settlement. Walsh was supposed to enjoy significant autonomy, which lasted until the ill-fated roster-gutting to acquire Carmelo Anthony, who would've been available in the off season without having to give up Gallinari et al.

Similarly, Jackson, hired upon Mills' recommendation, was supposed to have even more latitude to operate. He wanted Kerr as his headcoach, but Dolan reportedly wanted to low-ball Kerr on salary, and Kerr had a competing offer from the Warriors. Jackson's fallback, Derek Fischer, was more of a falldown. Jackson compounded the problem by forcing Fischer to implement an outmoded and archaic offensive scheme (without the benefit of Jordan/Pippen or Shaq/Kobe).

Dolan then reportedly forced Jackson into the re-signing of Anthony, tying up their cap, when the only smart thing to do would've been to let him walk, and look for a better player in FA.

Jackson did manage to make two excellent (almost visionary) draft selections (Porzingis, Ntilikina), but then managed to get crossways with Porzingis, who didn't take to Phil's zenphuckery.

Re-enter Mills, who hired the out-of-his-depth Perry, who has recycled a losing re-build philosophy (The Process 2.0), while recycling many of his own draft mistakes from previous losing stints as GM.

For the most part, Dolan appears to've stayed back, and let Mills/Perry make their own mistakes. But Dolan has become so publicly reviled, that he's looking to hold somewhat acccountable, to deflect blame, and hopefully some of the criticism. As deserved as it was, that's what the Fizdale firing was about.

So fire Perry too, and get rid of Mills, and yes you're still stuck with Dolan. Other than hoping for his early demise, what has caught my attention recently is that the Knicks are said to be currently under-valued by about 30%, with current investors' attempts to acquire a large stake rebuffed by Dolan. Still, when you can frame the problem by quanitifying it in billions of dollars, perhaps Dolan will tire of dealing with the headaches of public enmity, and make a deal that can make him feel like a success as a businessman.

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