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Old 11-11-2019, 08:46 AM   #1
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Default GDT: Game 10 - Mavs (6-3) at Celtics (7-1) 6:30 NBATV

Hayward out, Celts riding a 7-game win streak... Looks like a trap game for them if I've ever seen one.
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Good test on the road. I'm weirdly optimistic about this one because we hold a distinctive size advantage and should dominate the boards. It's probably not that easy because there's a reason this undersized team is 7-1, so I'm curious what their defensive secret is. An interesting stat: They rebound really bad, but are a top 5 blocking and field goal percentage allowed at the rim team.

Both top 5 in offense and defense, which would give them contender status. A decent KP should smoke this team because they pretty much have nobody to defend him. In case Kanter doesn't play their tallest dude is 6-8. We could theoretically field lineups where our smallest guy is 6-7.
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KP vs Kanter, duel of old teammates. That could be interesting.
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4th game in 6 days. I could see Luka having a stinker because of tired legs and going against Smart/Jaylen Brown. Specially Smart is going to give him a hard time and is going to frustate him to the max.

bench has to show up if we want to have a chance
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I think this is a game the Mavs should win on personnel. We are much bigger, but I think RC is going to match the Celtics instead of play to our strengths, and it is going to cost us this game. If Powell starts at C that will pretty much give away a good chunk of the rebound advantage we have with size. Luka can't make it all up by himself, and KP will hang out around the 3pt line more with Powell in there. :-( I hope I'm wrong.

Can you tell I'm tired of RC starting Powell? :-D I would start Boban, KP, Luka, Seth, and either Jackson or DFS with Kleber first sub for Boban. Please limit THJ's minutes and give them to Jackson. Okay, that was my Christmas wish list. LOL

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4th game in 6 days. I could see Luka having a stinker because of tired legs and going against Smart/Jaylen Brown. Specially Smart is going to give him a hard time and is going to frustate him to the max.

bench has to show up if we want to have a chance
Who knows. Luka is bigger, and a bit slower, so maybe RC will go with wright and brunson to start because they are a better matchup. /sarc
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Good test on the road. I'm weirdly optimistic about this one because we hold a distinctive size advantage and should dominate the boards. It's probably not that easy because there's a reason this undersized team is 7-1, so I'm curious what their defensive secret is. An interesting stat: They rebound really bad, but are a top 5 blocking and field goal percentage allowed at the rim team.

Both top 5 in offense and defense, which would give them contender status. A decent KP should smoke this team because they pretty much have nobody to defend him. In case Kanter doesn't play their tallest dude is 6-8. We could theoretically field lineups where our smallest guy is 6-7.
Their defense is very cohesive this year. They're all very fast and stay in front of their men. Unlike previous seasons, they'll quickly double (and then quickly undouble) when necessary. They turn the other team over a lot, while taking care of the ball themselves.

Kemba Walker is a much better defender than expected, and he's the worst in the rotation aside from Kanter who hasn't really played due to injury.

Brown and Tatum are very high level defenders while Smart is amazingly good- a disruptive DPOY candidate- who can guard any position. He guarded the much bigger Kevin Love effectively, guarded Giannis well, and even guarded Porzingis in the past.

Their bench is also filled with capable defenders so they don't lose the coherence when they sub. Gordon Hayward's loss hurts on both ends as he too has been strong on D.

They're a short team overall because they play small, but each guy is individually long, and once again very fast.

Center is the teams' weakest spot but so far at least, not their Achilles' heal. Robert Williams and Daniel Theis are among the blocks leaders per minute. They're not burly centers though, so that leaves a slightly lighter body on one opposing big man and a wing on the other much of the time, and that's when they don't go super small with Grant Williams at center. This has left them vulnerable on the boards.

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I think this is a game the Mavs should win on personnel. We are much bigger, but I think RC is going to match the Celtics instead of play to our strengths, and it is going to cost us this game. If Powell starts at C that will pretty much give away a good chunk of the rebound advantage we have with size. Luka can't make it all up by himself, and KP will hang out around the 3pt line more with Powell in there. :-( I hope I'm wrong.

Can you tell I'm tired of RC starting Powell? :-D I would start Boban, KP, Luka, Seth, and either Jackson or DFS with Kleber first sub for Boban. Please limit THJ's minutes and give them to Jackson. Okay, that was my Christmas wish list. LOL
THJ is playing 23 mins a game, basically his second lowest MPG in his career... it could be worse. He's not great, but it's not like he is killing us on the court consistently. The only issue with him this season is JAX isn't playing more.

I don't understand the lack of JAX minutes, maybe Boban too. But JAx is playing only 14 mpg and has improved his 3pt% from .37 to .47% yet his minutes are down from last season. Granted we lost Barnes last year and he had more opportunity, but with his improved play it seems like a no-brainer for his minutes to increase.
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Good test on the road. I'm weirdly optimistic about this one because we hold a distinctive size advantage and should dominate the boards. It's probably not that easy because there's a reason this undersized team is 7-1, so I'm curious what their defensive secret is. An interesting stat: They rebound really bad, but are a top 5 blocking and field goal percentage allowed at the rim team.

Both top 5 in offense and defense, which would give them contender status. A decent KP should smoke this team because they pretty much have nobody to defend him. In case Kanter doesn't play their tallest dude is 6-8. We could theoretically field lineups where our smallest guy is 6-7.
No Tacko?
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The last time the Mavs came to Boston without Dirk?

February 4, 1998.

Coaches: Rick Pitinoís 1st year in Boston, Don Nelsonís 1st in Dallas

Starters: Dallas: Hubert Davis, Michael Finley, Dennis Scott AC Green, Shawn Bradley.

Boston: Billups, Brown, Walker, McCarty, DeClercq

Jayson Tatum and Luka Doncic had not been born.

Duncan was a rookie. Jordan was a Bull.

Tom Chambers, Xavier McDaniel and Spud Webb were still playing.

Bill Fitch, Chris Ford, John Calipari and Danny Ainge were still coaching.

TD Garden is 1 of 10 NBA buildings still in use.
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No Tacko?
Tacko's playing with the Maine Red Claws. He needs to be on the floor getting reps more than sitting on the bench in Boston. The Celtics have said they don't want to waste the 45 days of 2 way player eligibility early on (the other 2 way being Tremont Waters) but will bring them up more later in the season. In the meantime, Red Claws games will be crazy entertaining, as both of those guys are so much fun to watch.

Boston does have one active taller player in Vincent Poirier, but so far he has looked very uncomfortable on offense in limited minutes.

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Their defense is very cohesive this year. They're all very fast and stay in front of their men. Unlike previous seasons, they'll quickly double (and then quickly undouble) when necessary. They turn the other team over a lot, while taking care of the ball themselves.

Kemba Walker is a much better defender than expected, and he's the worst in the rotation aside from Kanter who hasn't really played due to injury.

Brown and Tatum are very high level defenders while Smart is amazingly good- a disruptive DPOY candidate- who can guard any position. He guarded the much bigger Kevin Love effectively, guarded Giannis well, and even guarded Porzingis in the past.

Their bench is also filled with capable defenders so they don't lose the coherence when they sub. Gordon Hayward's loss hurts on both ends as he too has been strong on D.

They're a short team overall because they play small, but each guy is individually long, and once again very fast.

Center is the teams' weakest spot but so far at least, not their Achilles' heal. Robert Williams and Daniel Theis are among the blocks leaders per minute. They're not burly centers though, so that leaves a slightly lighter body on one opposing big man and a wing on the other much of the time, and that's when they don't go super small with Grant Williams at center. This has left them vulnerable on the boards.
Good stuff Minkbarn! Thanks for the advance scout. Have not seen the Celts yet this year.
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Recency bias I suppose, but I’m oddly more confident about tonight against a contending team on the road than I am when they play a bad team at home.""
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This was actually a thing of the past as well when the early Dirk mavs were road warriors but had trouble at home (can't remember the exact season). Hopefully it's a sign of a similar path to greatness.
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No Tacko?
He played four minutes so far. Not sure he counts
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This was actually a thing of the past as well when the early Dirk mavs were road warriors but had trouble at home (can't remember the exact season). Hopefully it's a sign of a similar path to greatness.
Hard to tell about a similar path, they just pulled out of the driveway.
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This should be an interesting game.
Hope Boban starts the game. It's about time we see one of his top moves when standing still holds to the rim and stares down to lesser players.

Can you guys please catch me up here ... Is Rick a shitty coach for the Mavs? I know he got Mavs the title, but maybe rooster back then was more fitting to his coaching and now things have changed maybe? I am not into basketball enough to know what he is thinking with his decisions.

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This should be an interesting game.
Hope Boban starts the game. It's about time we see one of his top moves when standing still holds to the rim and stares down to lesser players.

Can you guys please catch me up here ... Is Rick a shitty coach for the Mavs? I know he got Mavs the title, but maybe rooster back then was more fitting to his coaching and now things have changed maybe? I am not into basketball enough to know what he is thinking with his decisions.

Best of luck to all MFFL!
He is a great coach...but no one outside him and a handful of assistants/ mgmt know what he's doing with the roster.
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This should be an interesting game.
Hope Boban starts the game. It's about time we see one of his top moves when standing still holds to the rim and stares down to lesser players.

Can you guys please catch me up here ... Is Rick a shitty coach for the Mavs? I know he got Mavs the title, but maybe rooster back then was more fitting to his coaching and now things have changed maybe? I am not into basketball enough to know what he is thinking with his decisions.

Best of luck to all MFFL!
Rick is trying to do the best with what he's been given.
He knows he has a certain #1 and #2 option but after that its a crap shoot.
The problem is there is such of a drop off in talent amongst the other rotation players compared to Luka and KP so Rick is shuffling the lineup to try to find something that sticks.

I'm actually surprised we have a good record while he is fiddling with the roster. He is trying too hard to match up to opposing teams no matter how terrible they are and that is what I find troubling. At some point he will need to stick with a consistent rotation so this team can establish an identity.
I don't blame Rick as much as I blame the FO for not giving Rick some of the pieces to make sound decisions.

At least that is how I see the situation.

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Rick is trying to do the best with what he's been given.
He knows he has a certain #1 and #2 option but after that its a crap shoot.
The problem is there is such of a drop off in talent amongst the other rotation players compared to Luka and KP so Rick is shuffling the lineup to try to find something that sticks.
At least that is how I see the situation.
Totally agree with what you say. My first tough was that no one besides him and a handful of others have the slightest idea what his intentions are.

Let's hope his digging gets us somewhere. I am not mentally prepared for another tanking half of the season.
And I really want Mavs to succeed.

Let's go Mavs!!!!
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Not a good start. Layup drill. I wish Rick would put Boban in there with KP and go with a zone. Those 2 together in a zone would stop that layup shit promptly.
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what a brickfest so far
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I'd trade RC for Stevens. Anybody else?
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Seth again with the hesitant play ...smh

He either needs to play or just sit
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Seth isn't very good. I'll pull his ass after a traveling call...jesus.
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bricking wide open threes...
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What will it take to see Justin Jackson in the SL?
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4 yr $40 million or better contract. LOL
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THJ absolutely has to chuck every effin pass he receives. SMH
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The number one priority in starters has to be offense. DFS doesn’t need to be starting. It damn sure isn’t making a difference in team defense. I’d try rolling with a
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This quarter has been brutal.
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Can't keep up with these slow starts. They'll eventually get the best of us.

Thank goodness we are only down 4.
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4 yr $40 million or better contract. LOL
I almost feel that they won't start him because they don't want to pay him.
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Old 11-11-2019, 08:10 PM   #33
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end of 1st qtr - we are shooting a horrible 26.1% but only down 4 points... I'll take it.
Doncic has 10 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists.

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And why on earth is KP guarding Tatum?
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KP is making the game too hard for himself in very simple plays.

Great shot by Wright.
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Another game of KP looking lost.
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DP help side defense is really just the parting of the red sea. Seriously, THJ guarding and Powell helping. Yikes.
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Dumb ass foul by Porzingis there having two fouls already. Really inexcusable. Lazy, also.
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I hate THJ right now.

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DP help side defense is really just the parting of the red sea. Seriously, THJ guarding and Powell helping. Yikes.
yepp...its like THJ didnt pay attention to the Jalen Brown scouting report at all

THJ really is a lost cause....with this shot selection he is going to be always a sub 40% guy...cant wait for 2021...

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