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Old 08-30-2018, 06:13 PM   #121
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@dalton_trigg: I see @DeAndre liking a lot of the #Mavs posts, & I know he’s officially signed his contract... but it won’t be 100% real to me until I see him in the Dallas practice facility with the rest of the guys.

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Lee Daniels' The Butler is a movie that everyone has seen at least once.

I think Deandre Jordan has earned a derailing of his thread before being completely forgiven.

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I would be okay with Butler, but he also doesn't really fit our timeline and I'm afraid he'd turn into a pumpkin after the first year or so, with all of the minutes Thibs has used him. It might be a different story if we were like a 45-win team this year and just needed one more impact player, and Dirk was coming back for sure so we wanted to make a run with him here, but I would rather aim for someone younger if we're making a big addition to this core.

He looks great in the jersey, though!
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I'm glad that level heads prevailed and didn't let the past dictate getting this guy. He has been everything we hoped for through 3 games.
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I'm glad that level heads prevailed and didn't let the past dictate getting this guy. He has been everything we hoped for through 3 games.
He's more than i had expected especially on two counts:

1. Seems to have taken on somewhat of a leadership role - whether emotionally getting fired up, and/or talking to the young guys, especially DSJ. 3 years ago he just seemed like a child... maybe he's grown up some too?

2. FT shooting - 9-10 .900, really? I mean very small sample size, but man at this rate...

his last few years for comparison

2014 - 187-471 .397
2015 - 266-619 .430 (that's 8 FT's/game!)
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3 years ago he just seemed like a child... maybe he's grown up some too?
I really believe he is high BBIQ while on the court. I think his off the court is seriously lacking. He appears to have a huge need to be liked.
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:24 PM   #135
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I'm glad that level heads prevailed and didn't let the past dictate getting this guy. He has been everything we hoped for through 3 games.
DAJ has exceeded my expectations. I'm almost shocked at how dominant he is at times. I love his energy and enthusiasm, and he appears to be taking on a needed role as a vocal leader on the court. I'm really excited for this season and am looking forward to Dirk and Barnes coming back. This is going to be fun. My only two main concerns really are DSJ and how quickly we can get rid of Wes. :-O
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DAJ has exceeded my expectations. I'm almost shocked at how dominant he is at times. I love his energy and enthusiasm, and he appears to be taking on a needed role as a vocal leader on the court. I'm really excited for this season and am looking forward to Dirk and Barnes coming back. This is going to be fun. My only two main concerns really are DSJ and how quickly we can get rid of Wes. :-O
Our front court is loaded right now and will be even more so when Dirk and Barnes come back. It will be interesting to see what the rotation will be when they do.
Maxi and Powell look really, really, really good right now with the 2nd unit and I'm wondering who Dirk will replace. Mejri is a legit backup center that can't even see the court so I guess this is an unusual good problem.

DJ is by far and away our frontcourt catalyst.
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UD, I smile every time I see this thread's title. DAJ's presence has indeed been an "electric boogaloo"!


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@MavsNetwork: Deandre Jordan is shooting FTs 11% better than James Harden this season (.846 vs. .735), just as we all expected.
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Jordan has been great so far. I know his effort isn't always there at times, but he has a lot of miles on those legs and is asked to carry the rebounding load.

Unfortunately, Mavs still near the bottom in rebounding. Rest of the team has to step up.
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Unfortunately, Mavs still near the bottom in rebounding. Rest of the team has to step up.
Yeah, it's crazy how we can have the 4th-best statistical rebounder in the league and still be ranked so low...
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Jordan has been great so far. I know his effort isn't always there at times, but he has a lot of miles on those legs and is asked to carry the rebounding load.

Unfortunately, Mavs still near the bottom in rebounding. Rest of the team has to step up.
Reason for DAJ very high rebound numbers because he want all the rebound he can get and get mad if one of his team get the rebound when he is near the ball. He even steal rebound from teammates to pad his numbers.. Doesn't really increase team rebound numbers that much and impossible for his team to step up rebound numbers when he is on the floor.
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Yeah, it's crazy how we can have the 4th-best statistical rebounder in the league and still be ranked so low...
We leapt from a distant 30th to 9th. From worst in the entire league to top-10. Our rebounding is great.

Now defense is 22nd and offense is 23rd. 27th in turnover percentage. Those are the main issues. Rebounding is the one good story with this season.
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Idc how well DJ is rebounding. I'm starting to get tired of his ineffectiveness offensivsly and his rebound antics towards other teammates.
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We leapt from a distant 30th to 9th. From worst in the entire league to top-10. Our rebounding is great.

Now defense is 22nd and offense is 23rd. 27th in turnover percentage. Those are the main issues. Rebounding is the one good story with this season.
Yep... The Mavs are going to be bad defensively for now..but they have to be more efficient offensively. As for DAJ, I want him grabbing every board he can get his hands on.. If it pisses off a teammate, they can get over it.
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Yep... The Mavs are going to be bad defensively for now..but they have to be more efficient offensively. As for DAJ, I want him grabbing every board he can get his hands on.. If it pisses off a teammate, they can get over it.
It sure seems to piss Deandre off more than anyone when someone grabs a rebound he felt he could get. I'm pretty sure he's the one who needs to get over it. Who cares if he averages 13 or 15 rebounds if the team is rebounding great... well Deandre seems to care.
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It sure seems to piss Deandre off more than anyone when someone grabs a rebound he felt he could get. I'm pretty sure he's the one who needs to get over it. Who cares if he averages 13 or 15 rebounds if the team is rebounding great... well Deandre seems to care.
Those who aren't bothered by it sure will be when he goes over a teammate and they bobble it out of bounds. It's selfish and stupid.
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Those who aren't bothered by it sure will be when he goes over a teammate and they bobble it out of bounds. It's selfish and stupid.
While I agree that it looks selfish and stupid, but I still agree with Murphy3 for 2 really big reasons.
1. This team is horrible defensively, so I am perfectly fine with everyone except DJ getting back on D after a shot. We need all the help we can get on defense at this point.
2. This team is crazy good on fast break, so let DJ get the rebound and I want Doncic and DSJ breaking down the court with options to pass to.

So I don't really care right now if DJ is a rebound hog and will even suffer the very rare rebound loss out of bounds. It happens to the best of teams. We need better defense and more fast breaks in order to start getting wins quickly.

So for now, I'm going with what I tell my daughter: Suck it up, Buttercup.
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While I agree that it looks selfish and stupid, but I still agree with Murphy3 for 2 really big reasons.
1. This team is horrible defensively, so I am perfectly fine with everyone except DJ getting back on D after a shot. We need all the help we can get on defense at this point.
2. This team is crazy good on fast break, so let DJ get the rebound and I want Doncic and DSJ breaking down the court with options to pass to.

So I don't really care right now if DJ is a rebound hog and will even suffer the very rare rebound loss out of bounds. It happens to the best of teams. We need better defense and more fast breaks in order to start getting wins quickly.

So for now, I'm going with what I tell my daughter: Suck it up, Buttercup.
DJ was NOWHERE near the rebound and made the concerted effort the push Luka off to grab it. It wasn't a situation where Luka shouldn't have grabbed it. It was common sense.

And Doncic will have the ball in his hands if he is getting the rebound with nobody around. There really is no defense whatsoever for what Jordan did.
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The team seems to be over the issue, so we should probably move on. His excuse is fine, we know why he actually went and got it. The rebound isnt the big issue, its putting this team together. The chemistry has been the worst I can remember as a whole group (Rondo situation excluded)...Its definitely worse than Ellis' 2nd year.
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DJ was NOWHERE near the rebound and made the concerted effort the push Luka off to grab it. It wasn't a situation where Luka shouldn't have grabbed it. It was common sense.

And Doncic will have the ball in his hands if he is getting the rebound with nobody around. There really is no defense whatsoever for what Jordan did.
Absolutely this imo. It's one thing if they are both right there and he takes it, and in that case no one cares especially Doncic. Keep that type of stuff up and there will be a divide on this team and I'm glad RC isn't having it either. Doncic is fully capable of rebounding and going coast to coast in those situations.
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2. Figuring out DeAndre Jordan turning into a statue
Jordan is emerging as the ultimate stats-versus-eye-test guy this season. He ranks third among ESPN's defensive real plus-minus, behind only Robert Glovington and Marc Gasol. A lot of proprietary team analytics paint him as average or slightly above average.

Meanwhile, I see a lot of this:


The Mavs have clearly told Jordan to plant himself near the rim, dissuade enemies, and rebound everything. Jordan is on pace to lead the league in individual defensive rebounding rate for the second straight year; the Mavs rank fourth as a team. He rarely fouls.

Only seven teams have allowed a lower share of opponent shots at the rim than Dallas, per Cleaning The Glass. Perimeter defenders stay home on shooters instead of helping on drives, knowing Jordan is there.

But, my man, could you bother, like, moving and jumping now and then?


Jordan challenges only four shots per game at the basket, a remarkably low number considering he lives in the block-charge circle. Opponents shoot at the rim at the same rate against Dallas regardless of whether Jordan is on the floor. The Mavs' defense is way stingier when he is on the bench.

There also has to be a spiritual cost to witnessing Jordan's temporary calcification. Trust can erode when teammates funnel their guys toward Jordan, only to watch him chill with his hands at his sides.

Jordan plays like a man saving his jumps for offense, and counting stats. The Mavs have no stylistic flexibility with him on the floor.

And yet: Some advanced numbers are saying another thing. The Mavs still defend at a borderline top-10-level with Jordan on the floor. The Mavs' bench might appear stingier than it really is; they get to defend backups.

There must be more value than the eye test suggests in Jordan's brand of strategic do-nothingness. Leap at too many shots, and you expose the offensive glass and quick interior passes that lead to even easier dunks. But Jordan is erring too far in the direction of nothingness. You can't convince me he's as good as those numbers suggest.
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I wouldn't dare try to convince anyone that he is as good as the numbers suggest. It looks like he never helps on Defense and saves his legs for rebounding and offense.
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