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Old 11-16-2018, 11:21 AM   #121
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GS got their asses kicked by the Rockets. Mavs have a real shot if they keep that momentum from the Jazz game going.
agree - I love our bench unit - JJB, Maxi, DFS (when not starting) Devin Harris.
If we can just avoid an early deficit we will be in the fight against Warriors.
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agree - I love our bench unit - JJB, Maxi, DFS (when not starting) Devin Harris.
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9. Another wackadoo Dallas bench

The suddenly hot Mavs have outscored opponents by almost 20 points per 100 possessions when Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell share the floor. Every year, J.J. Barea and Rick Carlisle take some cast of wackadoo misfits and meld it into a productive bench.

Their main co-stars this season: Dorian Finney-Smith, shooting 46 percent from deep after a lost 2017-18 season; and Kleber, the other Maverick from Wurzburg, Germany, emerging out of nowhere as a fearsome rim protector.

Kleber leads the Mavericks in blocks, and he's on pace to double his total from last season. Finney-Smith's versatility on defense has allowed Carlisle to play Luka Doncic, Harrison Barnes and Finney-Smith together for heavy minutes.

It will be interesting to see how Carlisle juggles minutes when the Tall Baller from the G returns.
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agree - I love our bench unit - JJB, Maxi, DFS (when not starting) Devin Harris.
If we can just avoid an early deficit we will be in the fight against Warriors.
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Old 11-16-2018, 01:03 PM   #124
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It'll be interesting to see what the Mavs decide to do with the center position going forward...
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DJ has had his "issues" so far this year but I still think he is a perfect fit for this team and it looks like the team is rallying around him. I can see him playing here for his next full contract of another 3-5 years. That being said, if there was a crazy good center draft pick, I would still go with that for long term.
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JJJ with a great game.
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:10 AM   #127
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I think the Donovan Mitchell honeymoon is quickly fading. 31 points on 35 shots.
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quickly fading? Season just started and was nearly ROTR lol. Sophomore slump
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quickly fading? Season just started and was nearly ROTR lol. Sophomore slump
Yeah but he can't shoot in a league where you basically have to as a guard. He's obviously a good player, but I don't know about star-level until that gets fixed. Also doesn't get his teammates involved.
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@wojespn: Story on ESPN: Wizards signaling a willingness to consider trade overtures on entire roster, including All-Star guards John Wall and Bradley Beal.
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Mavs have had excellent trade relations with the Wizards in the past. I expect there to be a lot of smoke with them and trade rumors.
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Not sure we could have a competitive package for Beal.

John Wall won't get moved. $42mm annual average for his extension LOL
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I'd be interested in Beal, but not sure we have anything they'd want for him.

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I wish so badly we could get beal, but yeah we have nothing they would want.
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Anyone other than Beal to poach? Nah on Porter
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I can't believe this is the same Fultz I watched at Washington. I mean really it's the most bizarre case of a mental collapse I've ever seen. Every time I watch him play it's all I can think about.
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I can't believe this is the same Fultz I watched at Washington. I mean really it's the most bizarre case of a mental collapse I've ever seen. Every time I watch him play it's all I can think about.
Doesn't he double clutch his free throws? lmao and to think there were a ton of people on here crying because we didn't tank for that pick.

That's why they made the Butler trade. Fultz is a bust. And so is Frank who was recently moved to the bench. Although, I think I'd rather have Frank.
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Doesn't he double clutch his free throws? lmao and to think there were a ton of people on here crying because we didn't tank for that pick.

That's why they made the Butler trade. Fultz is a bust. And so is Frank who was recently moved to the bench. Although, I think I'd rather have Frank.
Frank is still young. He was a project coming out, so I'm willing to give him another season to figure it out. No idea what happened to Fultz. Would like to think a change of scenery might help, but I'm afraid that isn't the case. He's just broken.
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I could see us getting in the mix for Beal If we offered something like Wes and DSJ for him (a trade I would do in a heartbeat) but I think there are going to be a ton of suitors for him.

I have slightly less but similar interest in Otto Porter Jr. He seems like he's be a much better fit next to Luka and DSJ. Makes a ton of money, but I think he'd look great in our offense.
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Doesn't he double clutch his free throws? lmao and to think there were a ton of people on here crying because we didn't tank for that pick.

That's why they made the Butler trade. Fultz is a bust. And so is Frank who was recently moved to the bench. Although, I think I'd rather have Frank.
Colangelo undoing the process.

Imagine if Butler walks and the Celtics hit gold with the Sacramento pick out of the #1 for #3 swap
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Mitchell 3-8 and a -19 in 32 minutes last night. I'm telling ya, you can't live or die with a guy who can score 30 one night and make 3 FGs the next. Three out of his last 5 he has only made 3 fgs in each game. That's not good.
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He's been overhyped too soon(mitchell). I bet he would be much better with a pg who could shoot though. Rubio is so bad. Before last night's random good shooting game from Rubio he was shooting like 28% on 3's. But yeah the people in the media calling him a superstar need to chill.
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Fultz is the new Oden.
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LMAO, no lawyer can cover up the obvious. Next he'll be in Siberia to see a specialist there because they know how to fix shoulders.

Fultz needs to see a psychiatrist/psychologist, and I'm not saying that lightly.
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Doesn't he double clutch his free throws? lmao and to think there were a ton of people on here crying because we didn't tank for that pick.

That's why they made the Butler trade. Fultz is a bust. And so is Frank who was recently moved to the bench. Although, I think I'd rather have Frank.
I mean, at the time he was worth it.

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Agreed. There was no way to predict this one. One of the stranger cases.
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I mean, at the time he was worth it.

Hindsight is 20/20...
He wasnt worth to move up from #3 to #1 adding the basically unprotected Kings pick
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He wasnt worth to move up from #3 to #1 adding the basically unprotected Kings pick
Arguments can be made for that, for sure. I thought given the makeup of their roster, Tatum was the easier pick. Boston did a magnificent job leading up to that draft in getting what they got: extra 1st rounder and their guy all along.

I think the 76ers saw their chance to get a dominant guard to go along with Simmons and Embid. Hindsight shows the shooting and off ball skills of Tatum with Simmons was the best fit. Is what it is. That draft was definitely worth the tank though.
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By Jared Weiss, Derek Bodner, and Sam Amick Nov 21, 2018 137
Double-pumps​ before taking a shot.​ Strange spasms when tying​ his​ shoes.​ Odd​ rituals before setting​ up for​ a free​ throw.​​ Over the past few weeks, the saga of Philadelphia’s troubled Markelle Fultz has gone from strange to bizarre, stoking questions about what lies at the root of the 2017 No. 1 overall-pick’s continued struggles.

In addition to a previously diagnosed right shoulder injury that continues to impact him, Fultz has been playing with an apparent injury in his right wrist area that has adversely affected his ability to shoot, league sources told The Athletic. The issue has led to periodic difficulties holding on to the ball during his shot. Specialists have been working with Fultz to figure out how they can strengthen the wrist area to remedy the injury.

Sources with knowledge of Fultz’s thinking have also told The Athletic that the player would prefer a fresh start with a new team.

The wrist and shoulder injuries’ impact varies; some days they badly hinder him, other days they do not, causing an erratic pattern in which his shot appears to be working one game and is off the next. As he tries to work through and compensate for the injury, it has at times resulted in a case of the ‘yips,’ especially when shooting free throws.

Fultz and his agent, Raymond Brothers, have unilaterally scheduled him to see a specialist in New York Monday and until then he will be held out of team practices and games, as reported by The Athletic’s David Aldridge. Fultz will have his shoulder and wrist examined at this appointment in an attempt to obtain a clearer diagnosis. Fultz still experiences physical stress when moving the ball from his chest up to the set point in his shot, contributing to the erraticism per sources.

Sources say the Philadelphia 76ers have not been aware of any ailment preventing Fultz from being medically cleared or in harm’s way on the basketball court.

The shoulder injury was initially diagnosed as an imbalanced scapula last season, and as part of Fultz’s recovery, the second-year guard needed to relearn how to shoot the ball. Fultz, 20, has been wearing a specialized undershirt while he plays to address the scapula issue, according to sources. The genesis of the physical issues Fultz has been suffering from date back to his pre-draft training, as he attempted to increase his three-point range. According to sources close to Fultz, it is not clear exactly when the wrist injury started, or whether the wrist injury is connected to the scapular imbalance.

Fultz missed the end of his lone season at the University of Washington in February 2017 with right knee soreness. According to league and player sources, Fultz had a procedure on his right knee soon after he finished playing to scope out the back of his knee. Fultz was initially expecting to have meniscus surgery, but opted for the scope procedure after receiving a second opinion.

Over the next few months, Fultz recovered from the procedure and began working to enhance his jump shot with his longtime trainer Keith Williams. Williams, who previously worked with Kevin Durant and DeMarcus Cousins, has been working with Fultz since his childhood and is longtime friends with Fultz’s mother Ebony.

Fultz was an effective shooter from the college 3-point line, but needed to increase his shooting power to handle moving back to the NBA 3-point line. The key adjustment Fultz made was to move the set point of his shot from the standard spot just above his forehead to well out in front of it, an increasingly common approach in the NBA to enhance the energy transfer of the shot. However, when Fultz had his initial draft workout with the Boston Celtics, he struggled.

He looked physically off and his set point was noticeably different than it had been in college. The team expected that the shot could be reworked by the player development staff, but were concerned that something was not right with Fultz at the time.

The workout and physical played a role in the Celtics electing to trade the first pick in the 2017 draft to the 76ers, eventually drafting Jayson Tatum with the third pick a few weeks later. After Fultz held his initial workout with the 76ers, he told reporters, “My knee is great. As you can see, I’m jumping pretty high and everything like that. It was just a situation where I had some stuff going on with my knee.”

Fultz was drafted by Philadelphia in June of 2017 and went on to shoot fairly well at Summer League with his revamped form, although his Summer League was cut short by a mild ankle injury. Fultz and Williams continued to make adjustments to his shot, however, and by the time he arrived at training camp in late September, his set point was significantly lower and he could barely get a shot off. Coach Brett Brown said on September 28 that Fultz had altered his shot with his personal trainer after Summer League ended and that the team was trying to recalibrate it. Fultz and Williams had been working on his shot, but the coaching staff was not involved in the process.

Fultz did not mention that he was suffering from shoulder soreness to the team until training camp began, and he proved unwilling to take shots from the perimeter. After observing Fultz passing up chances to take outside shots during a pre-camp informal scrimmage, 76ers staff pulled him aside and asked him to shoot from three-point range. He airballed multiple shots.

In October, Fultz was diagnosed with a sore shoulder and began receiving treatment for it. Public comments from Brown and then-GM Bryan Colangelo said that Fultz’s attempts to straighten his shot pathway and move the set point out further and higher away from his forehead were causing this soreness.

By the time the season started, Fultz’s shoulder was stiff to the point that he had significantly restricted upper arm movement in his shot. He would only take midrange shots on the move and his follow-through was almost entirely in the wrist, rather than the entire arm.

On November 19, 2017, the team announced that Fultz had been evaluated for a scapular muscle imbalance and would be re-evaluated in two-to-three weeks. Fultz received a cortisone shot in the shoulder and continued to conduct physiotherapy work to improve his shoulder. Around the same time, Fultz began talking with trainer Drew Hanlen to set up a training partnership to revamp his shot again. But in January 2018, Fultz was again working with Williams, unbeknownst to the team.

After the season was over, Fultz went to Los Angeles to work with Hanlen alongside his friend Joel Embiid, with the objective of rebuilding his entire shot from scratch.

They started with relearning how to grip the ball, which was an issue because Fultz was experiencing sensation issues in his right thumb due to the injury. After a few weeks, they began reworking the set point in his shot to be closer to his forehead and have a more natural movement. Initially, Fultz was struggling to grip the ball while on the move and would airball pull-up mid-range jumpers in between makes. Fultz had a significant hitch in his shot when on the move, but it was smoother on free throws. Over the course of the summer, Fultz became more comfortable and consistent with his new shot, to the point that he was publicly confident that his shot was back entering training camp.

“There was a lot of things going on about changing shots, and all this and the third. But there was an injury there,” Fultz told Denver Nuggets guard Isaiah Thomas in a September Players’ Tribune interview. “For me, I’m a hooper, so I was like ‘Man this ain’t gonna stop me.’ So once I realized really I couldn’t do stuff to my full capacity I was like ‘It really is something.’ So I had to find out what it was, and we did that throughout the season. It took a long time and people couldn’t really understand it, thinking I was just being soft. But it was really an injury. Now I’ve gotten a chance to pick apart all of these doctors. We’ve figured it out. And I’ve been back to work this summer. Everything’s back to and even better than what it was.”

In the first two games of the preseason, the new mechanics were apparent and appeared to be yielding improvements, despite a slight hitch still present at the top of the shot. Then he went to China for an exhibition series put on by the NBA, and the consistency of his mechanics began to wane. When he got back for the regular season, the trend shifted in the other direction. He hit one pull-up against the Celtics in the season opener, then shot 1-for-6 in the first half of the home opener against the Chicago Bulls. Just about everyone from Fultz’s camp was in attendance, including his mother Ebony and trainer Hanlen.

At halftime, multiple witnesses observed Ebony yelling at Hanlen. According to sources with knowledge of the argument, she was angry that results were not showing for Markelle and Hanlen walked away. Hanlen did not work with Fultz again after that fight and officially parted ways.

When reached for comment, Hanlen told The Athletic, “Legally I am not allowed to address the situation or talk about anything regarding my time with Markelle.”

By October 29, Fultz had reverted back to the form similar to the one he displayed at 2017 training camp, with a set point down in front of his face. He hit one wide-open three with this form in a 1-for-5 shooting night, then missed a pair of 3-pointers wide off the rim early in the first few possessions of the game the next night in Toronto. He has not attempted another three in nine games since.

After a rough shooting night against the Brooklyn Nets on November 4, Hanlen responded to a tweet by saying that Fultz is not fully healthy, which he later deleted. This prompted questions to Brown and Fultz about whether this was true.

“Nobody’s ever 100 percent healthy,” Brown said. “To the best of my knowledge, he’s healthy enough to go do what he’s been doing. He’s been playing basketball and doing well. He’s fine. There’s no conspiracy theory out there. Nobody’s 100 percent healthy. But he’s healthy to play basketball like JJ (Redick) is and Joel (Embiid) is.”

Fultz echoed the exact same “nobody’s ever 100 percent healthy” mantra, saying bumps and bruises are just life in the NBA and he’s working every day to get better. But over the past few weeks, Fultz has displayed some odd tendencies during dead-ball moments in the game. First, it was a whole-body spasm after tying his shoes. Then he double-pumped a free throw, something he explained away as the ball slipping out of his hands.

Then there was a shuffling of the ball on the way up on a free throw against Utah Friday night, which was, according to a source familiar with the matter, an attempt to block out the yips. A source said that concern about his injury causes him to double clutch, or hesitate, fearful the ball may slip. At this point, the source said, it is as much a mental hurdle as it is a physical one.

Fultz is still demonstrating he has special potential as an attacking point guard and defender, but has been suffering intense criticism for his erratic shooting and abnormal actions at the free throw line and elsewhere. With no clear remedy for his issues at this point, and his team displaying the hallmarks of a title contender, Fultz may be caught in a situation where his potential makes him too valuable to replace, but his struggles make it hard for him to be a vital cog in a championship run.

— Shams Charania and David Aldridge also contributed to this report.
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Trae was a -35 tonight in an 18 point loss to Celtics. Lin was a +14 as his backup. Trae is now shooting 8 of 59 from 3 in November. His last 6 games he's averaging 9 points a game despite having a 25 point game sprinkled in there. He's also shooting 25% from the floor during that stretch and a whopping 4% from 3... as in 1 for 25.
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