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Old 03-18-2021, 08:31 PM   #1841
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And I expect Mavs fans to continue to bitch about every move the FO makes despite the fact that since 2017 (they year we started getting "good" draft picks) we've added Luka Doncic, Jalen Brunson, Kristaps Porzingis (by way of Dennis Smith Jr.), and three promising rookies this year.


Edit: By the way hindsight is 20/20. Please show me where you were clamoring for Saddiq Bey prior to the draft.
I'm not paid to make those decisions but get to complain about them from here for free just like you can do your job of protecting all decisions always.
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I'm not paid to make those decisions but get to complain about them from here for free just like you can do your job of protecting all decisions always.


I donít agree with a lot of stuff the FO does. I donít agree with a lot of what Carlisle does.

That being said, Iím not going to judge any rookies from a half season sample when they barely had a training camp or chance to get acclimated. No one has any idea whoís going to blossom and whoís going to bust. Saddiq Bey is having a great rookie season. Cool. So did Michael Carter Williams. So did Dennis Smith Jr. Bringing it up every thread isnít helpful or in any way a meaningful contribution.
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I'm sure that Carlisle wants rookies to "prove" they deserve minutes. And with the VERY limited amount of practice time that is available this season, there is very little opportunity

When you have a suck team like the Pistons, it is a little less important to have rookies earn their minutes
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I'm sure that Carlisle wants rookies to "prove" they deserve minutes. And with the VERY limited amount of practice time that is available this season, there is very little opportunity

When you have a suck team like the Pistons, it is a little less important to have rookies earn their minutes
Why does everyone assume only bad teams play rookies?


I just posted a list of rookies that are getting quality minutes for playoff contending teams this year.

Do some research fellas their are some solid rookies who were not lottery picks that are consistently getting rotation minutes on teams that are currently equal to or better than our Mavs.

Did those rookies have more practice time than the Mavs rookies or more training camp time?
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Old 03-19-2021, 09:50 AM   #1845
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Do some research fellas their are some solid rookies who were not lottery picks that are consistently getting rotation minutes on teams that are currently equal to or better than our Mavs.
For someone who accuses others for not reading posts, you sure glossed over mine

I said CARLISLE wants rookies to "prove" they deserve minutes

I might not agree with it but HE is the coach and that is one of HIS quirks. Carlisle only seems to play cerebral point guards as rookies - see Brunson and Yogi

If you want to use this as a point to replace Carlisle then that's another discussion but this is the way he is
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I posted this in the Clippers GDT but I'll post it here since people are talking about the rookies not getting minutes.

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Do I wish the rookies would get minutes so we could see what they are and so they could develop? Yes. Do I agree with the way Carlisle has always kept his young players on such a short leash? Nope. Never have.

That being said, it's very unrealistic to expect second round picks to get consistent minutes in their rookie seasons, particularly for playoff teams. And as for Green, yes I wish we could see more of him, but in fairness to Rick, the little bit we have seen of Green this season didn't exactly make me clamor for more. Rookies have to earn their minutes like everyone else, and Green looked very raw every time he stepped out there, and he couldn't hit the broadside of barn- which is very disconcerting considering we drafted him to be a 3-and-D specialist. Nothing I saw from Green so far made me think he deserved minutes over any of the other guys on the roster. Carlisle has always been too conservative with his young players, yes, but in this particular instance, he might be right to let them cut their teeth in the G-League.
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Do I wish the rookies would get minutes so we could see what they are and so they could develop? Yes. Do I agree with the way Carlisle has always kept his young players on such a short leash? Nope. Never have.

That being said, it's very unrealistic to expect second round picks to get consistent minutes in their rookie seasons, particularly for playoff teams. And as for Green, yes I wish we could see more of him, but in fairness to Rick, the little bit we have seen of Green this season didn't exactly make me clamor for more. Rookies have to earn their minutes like everyone else, and Green looked very raw every time he stepped out there, and he couldn't hit the broadside of barn- which is very disconcerting considering we drafted him to be a 3-and-D specialist. Nothing I saw from Green so far made me think he deserved minutes over any of the other guys on the roster. Carlisle has always been too conservative with his young players, yes, but in this particular instance, he might be right to let them cut their teeth in the G-League.
I agree you have to be selective in when you play these guys and I don't agree with a fixed amount of minutes per game quota.

The problem is, outside of the desperation of needing bodies during the covid stretch, they haven't played. Some scrap minutes here and there but nothing meaningful. Rick has to do a better job of finding a way to get them in and there have been opportunities to do so. Reps in practice isn't enough.

James Johnson, Burk and Powell have been underwhelming to quite bad this season so it would be easy to supplement some minutes from those 3. I thought Green was fine when he played, Given the fact that we had a tiny offseason and there wasn't normal practice schedules. Green was never going to be a shooter like Bane coming out, and I highly doubt he ever will. I thought we got him for his A and D, Athleticism and Defense, and He has shown both.
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I agree you have to be selective in when you play these guys and I don't agree with a fixed amount of minutes per game quota.

The problem is, outside of the desperation of needing bodies during the covid stretch, they haven't played. Some scrap minutes here and there but nothing meaningful. Rick has to do a better job of finding a way to get them in and there have been opportunities to do so. Reps in practice isn't enough.

James Johnson, Burk and Powell have been underwhelming to quite bad this season so it would be easy to supplement some minutes from those 3. I thought Green was fine when he played, Given the fact that we had a tiny offseason and there wasn't normal practice schedules. Green was never going to be a shooter like Bane coming out, and I highly doubt he ever will. I thought we got him for his A and D, Athleticism and Defense, and He has shown both.
I'm with you. I think pretty much everyone is. These guys need to get their feet wet at some point. Unfortunately, this just comes with the territory with Carlisle, always has been. Some coaches just don't trust rookies, and Carlisle is one of them.
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I agree you have to be selective in when you play these guys and I don't agree with a fixed amount of minutes per game quota.

The problem is, outside of the desperation of needing bodies during the covid stretch, they haven't played. Some scrap minutes here and there but nothing meaningful. Rick has to do a better job of finding a way to get them in and there have been opportunities to do so. Reps in practice isn't enough.

James Johnson, Burk and Powell have been underwhelming to quite bad this season so it would be easy to supplement some minutes from those 3. I thought Green was fine when he played, Given the fact that we had a tiny offseason and there wasn't normal practice schedules. Green was never going to be a shooter like Bane coming out, and I highly doubt he ever will. I thought we got him for his A and D, Athleticism and Defense, and He has shown both.
I mentioned before but if you watch Golden St the kid Nico Mannion plays every night now.

He had that stint in the G-League and since coming back Kerr has played him some quality minutes.

Dude played with Green out here in Arizona and I know for a fact Green is the better player amongst the two.

Nico was a 2nd round pick and he was slowly moved in to the rotation.
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Mavs .737 over the last 19 games (14-5)

Mavs have now climbed from 14th in the west to 7th

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i think it will be interesting to see how teams start gearing up for the playoffs when they have about 7-8 games remaining. I like what I've seen from the Mavs the past month or month and a half. I'm cautiously optimistic about how they'll finish out the regular season.

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From the Athletic

J.J. Barea could be added back to the roster if the Mavericks wanted due to the NBA clause in his Spanish ACB contract; heís started the past six games for Movistar Estudiantes and scored double figures in each.
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J.J. Barea could be added back to the roster if the Mavericks wanted due to the NBA clause in his Spanish ACB contract; heís started the past six games for Movistar Estudiantes and scored double figures in each.
Whoo hoo! That would be great. Can't wait to see a lineup with Brunson, JJB, and Burke.
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I agree you have to be selective in when you play these guys and I don't agree with a fixed amount of minutes per game quota.

The problem is, outside of the desperation of needing bodies during the covid stretch, they haven't played. Some scrap minutes here and there but nothing meaningful. Rick has to do a better job of finding a way to get them in and there have been opportunities to do so. Reps in practice isn't enough.

James Johnson, Burk and Powell have been underwhelming to quite bad this season so it would be easy to supplement some minutes from those 3. I thought Green was fine when he played, Given the fact that we had a tiny offseason and there wasn't normal practice schedules. Green was never going to be a shooter like Bane coming out, and I highly doubt he ever will. I thought we got him for his A and D, Athleticism and Defense, and He has shown both.
Bane is athletic like Green but also good at basketball.
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Mavericks allegedly potentially possibly interested in Knicks' center Mitchell Robinson:

Mitchell Robinson’s contract saga with Knicks now seems clear-cut

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To solidify his future, the Knicks had a chance to not exercise the team option and allow him to become a restricted free agent. Then the Knicks could match any offer that wasn’t deemed outrageous.

By doing so, it would prevent the Knicks from the risk of losing Robinson as an unrestricted free agent in 2022, with one NBA source believing Dallas will have an eye out for the center
Saturday’s injury has changed matters considerably. The Knicks don’t know enough about the player they have, or about his durability after undergoing two surgeries this season and various ailments in his previous two seasons
Robinson's season has ended with surgery on a broken foot, four games after returning from a six-week layoff for a broken hand.

Knicks had developed a better-than-average 2-man center rotation with Robinson and Nerlens "Press Buffet Hot Dog" Noel, the latter of whom is actually making a reasonable contribution to an improved Knicks team this year.

Robinson would be the right type of player to complement Porzingis in the frontcourt-- elite-ish athlete, very good movement, good defender, elite shot-blocker who was just beginning to learn to challenge shots without getting into foul trouble. In addition, he was almost exclusively an opportunistic scorer--converting lobs, and hoovering up offensive boards for put-back dunks, so he would not have competed with Porzingis for touches or shots. Robinson did not have a discernible offensive move beyond dunking, however, let alone 3-point range, so debatable as to what kind of minutes he'd get under Future Former-Guy.

Robinson has shown superior athleticism, and had improved significantly under Thibs. Damned shame about the injury, which kind of puts a damper on the NYKs' seasons and any serious playoff aspirations.

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You know it's 100% BS when

1) It's the NY Post

2) They use two qualifiers. It's both alleged and potential? It's not enough to say that the Mavs are potentially interested in him or allegedly interested? We're allegedly potentially interested?

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1) It's the NY Post

2) They use two qualifiers. It's both alleged and potential? It's not enough to say that the Mavs are potentially interested in him or allegedly interested? We're allegedly potentially interested?
Article was by Mark Berman, take it for what it's worth.

The qualifiers were my own editorial commentary--allegedly, potentially, AND possibly--suggesting my own dubious regard for the speculation.

The flipside of Robinson is that he seems somewhat shall we say intellectually immature, having gone through six agents in ~3 years, and having dumped former Knick David Lee as an agent in exchange for a pickup truck, this alleged bribery being the subject of a lawsuit by Mr. Lee. Robinson is not named as a defendant.

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The qualifiers were my own editorial commentary.
Ah! Sorry! That was brilliant commentary for what it's worth. I even read it, and didn't see that that wasn't included!
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