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Old 11-21-2020, 09:43 PM   #1761
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So which players are getting little to no minutes in Dallas? Tyrell Terry? Tyler Bey? J.J. Barea? Wes Iwundu? Maybe even Josh Green? Probably even Boban Marjanovic even though he really shines when played against teams with bigger lineups such as the Nuggets. I wonder. Minutes will be tough to come by especially when KP returns from his injury. I think Jalen Brunson and Dwight Powell are ready to return. Are the Mavericks as deep as I think they are?
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:51 PM   #1763
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So how do we look, someone please help me out.

Luka/Brunson/Terry
THJ/Burke/Iwundu
Richardson/Green/
DFS/Maxi/Johnson
KP/Powell/Boban

Hinton/Bey

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Is J.J. gonna make $2,564,753? Also will Josh Green make $2,347,300?
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So how do we look, someone please help me out.

Luka/Brunson/Terry
THJ/Burke/Iwundu
Richardson/Green/
DFS/Maxi/Johnson
KP/Powell/Boban

Hinton/Bey

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You're missing Giannis, duh!
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So which players are getting little to no minutes in Dallas? Tyrell Terry? Tyler Bey? J.J. Barea? Wes Iwundu? Maybe even Josh Green? Probably even Boban Marjanovic even though he really shines when played against teams with bigger lineups such as the Nuggets. I wonder. Minutes will be tough to come by especially when KP returns from his injury. I think Jalen Brunson and Dwight Powell are ready to return. Are the Mavericks as deep as I think they are?
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Which means, they fight tooth and nail. Rick loves the dog fight model of coaching, but that only works if you have a lot of replaceable pieces.
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Ha. You guys are seriously too kind considering I quoted myself.

Before I move on I just want to say I honestly found Iwundu impressive. He really has an all around game that includes the ability to put the ball on the floor and finish at the rim, and also shows a lot of improvement on his jumper.

He’s a borderline great pick and roll defender who also brings hustle and grit. I think he’ll end up playing a lot more than people think.

Again, the Mavs moves this offseason have been extremely promising. The emphasis on gritty defenders will pay off huge dividends and lead to easy transition point that will at least partially make up for the loss on offense. I think we’re obviously a much better team than last season.
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Mavs contracts
1) KP
2) THJ
3) Johnson
4) Richardson
5) Powell
6) Kleber
7) Doncic
8) DFS
9) Boban
10) Brunson
11) Burke
12) Green (guaranteed 1st rounder)
13) Iwuru
---inactive---
14) Barea (brad says he’s returning)
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---two-way players-----
16) Nate Hinton
17) Tyler Bey
---camp fodder not here when the season starts---
18) Devonte Patterson
19) Freddie Gillespie
20)

other
Terry - second-round pick. Contract is optional
We still have about 6 mill of the MLE

I mean, if we sign Terry, that's a 100% filled roster, right?
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I'm told that Iwundu's contract is guaranteed, and this source also confirmed my earlier report that J.J. Barea will be back, but this source is telling me the Mavs still have one more roster spot. I knew Bey and Hinton were on 2-ways, but I obviously need to redo my math.
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They can't let Terry go right after drafting him with 31

If Brad's source is correct, then someone is on the move. Maybe a 2 for 1 trade that leaves an open roster spot?
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Mavs contracts
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11) Burke
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16) Nate Hinton
17) T. Bey

other
Terry - second-round pick. Contract is optional
We still have about 6 mill of the MLE

I mean, if we sign Terry, that's a 100% filled roster, right?
I guess it COULD just mean they're looking at someone they like better than Hinton for the 15th spot, giving them the option of sliding Terry into the other two-way...but who knows. Very weird.
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Not sure that's the answer, but again, Donnie did make it a point on draft night to say those two-way contracts are way different this year. There are essentially 17 normal roster spots, if teams are smart about this.
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being told the Mavs still have one more roster spot to fill --

A mystery move?

My best guess is it's just about Terry. 1st rounders are rookie scale, but 2nd-rounders are negotiated. We're told Bey has agreed to a two-way deal. But I've seen no word on Terry yet
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Should we give up any hope of WCS returning?
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A mystery move?

My best guess is it's just about Terry. 1st rounders are rookie scale, but 2nd-rounders are negotiated. We're told Bey has agreed to a two-way deal. But I've seen no word on Terry yet
Without a trade it seems like Terry
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The Mavs still have a good chunk of the MLE left so I guess they could get another player and slide Terry to a 2 way deal
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The Mavs still have a good chunk of the MLE left so I guess they could get another player and slide Terry to a 2 way deal
We already have two 2-way players. You think we may not stick with one of them?
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Asked a Mavs source about the descrepency in me and others counting the Mavs as having a full roster, while a different source tells me the Mavs have one spot left.

Texted response: “TBD.”
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After watching some game highlights, Count me in the Wes camp. Lot of budding potential. I hope he does well here.
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Asked a Mavs source about the descrepency in me and others counting the Mavs as having a full roster, while a different source tells me the Mavs have one spot left.

Texted response: TBD.
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Already ditched Gillespie
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I dont mind Terry being on a two-way. Id like to see the Mavs use the last spot on Harry Giles.
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Texted response: TBD.
I wonder if that source was just referring to the last camp body spot we have open. They could just be referring to that 20th camp spot instead of a spot on the 15 man roster.
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I see nothing about this. Where was this discussed?
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I see nothing about this. Where was this discussed?
He was listed as a two-way and then they listed Hinton and T. Bey as the two two-way players. Since there are only two, it seems like there was a miscommunication or change of heart. Maybe they confused two-way with E10 or camp body
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I dont mind Terry being on a two-way. Id like to see the Mavs use the last spot on Harry Giles.

Terry is a steal at this point. Im pretty sure they want to lock him up on the same Deal they gave Brunson
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They got Ibaka for the f'in midlevel....2/19. You're telling me the FO isn't interested in that?

See, we clamor about having a looot of cap space, but then you wonder if players just don't want to play here.
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They got Ibaka for the f'in midlevel....2/19. You're telling me the FO isn't interested in that?

See, we clamor about having a looot of cap space, but then you wonder if players just don't want to play here.
Or maybe he wanted to play with his NBA Finals MVP teammate again? I think it has more to do with that.
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Or maybe he wanted to play with his NBA Finals MVP teammate again? I think it has more to do with that.
Definitely more to do with that

And Mavs either didn’t make an offer or offered 2/12. We didn’t have the full MLE.
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They got Ibaka for the f'in midlevel....2/19. You're telling me the FO isn't interested in that?

See, we clamor about having a looot of cap space, but then you wonder if players just don't want to play here.
I'm sure he considered playing here but we didn't have the full MLE left since we signed Burke
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Well so much for the west having a drop off.

That Ibaka pickup is huge for the Clippers. One of their weaknesses was they didn't have size last year. He not only gives them size but he can actually be slotted next to Zubac because of his ability to stretch to the floor unlike Harrell.

I also expect both Phoenix and Golden St to be a problem this year.

The West is still going to be crazy deep.
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Definitely more to do with that

And Mavs either didnt make an offer or offered 2/12. We didnt have the full MLE.
Also, the Clippers are championship ready right now. Even optimistically, the Mavs still have a ways to go.

Everybody needs to understand that as much promise as the Mavs have right now, it's just that. Promise. They need to actually make some noise in playoffs before I think we can think about Dallas being a desirable destination for free agents. As amazing as Luka has been in his first two years, we still on only got the 7th seed last year and lost to these exact same Clippers.

Ibaka easily could have fetched more on the open market. He took a discount presumably because he wanted win another title with Kawhi, and/or he wanted to play in LA.

The Mavs have no such advantages. "BUT YOU GET TO PLAY WITH LUKA" is not much of a sales pitch. Not yet anyway.
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I also expect both Phoenix and Golden St to be a problem this year.
I honestly don't. I think Phoenix will maybe get the 7th seed, and I don't think Golden State will make the playoffs.

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Still, yes. But not more as far as I can tell. OKC blew it up and Houston is not far behind. The Lakers and Clippers got better, but the Mavs weren't going to be as good as them anyway. We still improved more than most of the other teams from where I'm standing.
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HE should've always been available honestly. But I don't think there's anyone on the team that fits him. He's a 3 and D guy and he's on a cheap deal and he has experience.
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I hate to be that guy but it seems like Green will possibly have a shot but seems like odds are the others probably won't. I hope they do though. I notice this time of year everyone loves everyone. Looking at this past draft everyone was a "steal".....
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I honestly don't. I think Phoenix will maybe get the 7th seed, and I don't think Golden State will make the playoffs.



Still, yes. But not more as far as I can tell. OKC blew it up and Houston is not far behind. The Lakers and Clippers got better, but the Mavs weren't going to be as good as them anyway. We still improved more than most of the other teams from where I'm standing.
OKC are for sure done. I think they are planning to tank anyway.

Houston has said they are playing the long game. They aren't shipping out Harden....and honestly....they've made some good move this offseason. Christian Wood is a underrated acquisition. It wouldn't shock me if Harden changes his mind he's going to love playing with him.

Blazers adding Kanter, Covington...getting Rodney Hood back...Derrick Jones....Honestly I don't think the Jazz and the Nuggets needed to do much if anything.

I think the Suns take the Thunder spot honestly. Warriors are going to be in the mix too. Its going to be a dog fight again.

And you have to wonder if it will finally click for KAT and the T-Wolves.
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