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Old 01-24-2017, 04:58 PM   #41
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Ronda is a grade A POS, but would obviously work with Cavs. He's only highly regarded bc of what he did in Boston, which honestly wasnt shit. He passed the ball to 3 HOF in their prime and let them work. All Ronda has to do is pass to the stacked Cavs team and drive the ball from time to time.
I don't watch the Cavs much, but I don't know how well he would fit. You figure the ball is going to be in either Lebron or Kyrie's hands, so they probably need someone who can space the floor.
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Ronda is a grade A POS, but would obviously work with Cavs. He's only highly regarded bc of what he did in Boston, which honestly wasnt shit. He passed the ball to 3 HOF in their prime and let them work. All Ronda has to do is pass to the stacked Cavs team and drive the ball from time to time.
Ronda was also able to defend back then. Now he can only pass the ball. I do not think he can do well with other guys handling the ball. Ray Allen, Pierce and KG were fine with being spot up shooters and at some points handling the ball.

Cavs are looking for a backup point, so Kyrie will not be a problem.
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They need a small salary player. They have such a huge payroll and I don't think they have exceptions that would be able to get Dwill or Ronda anymore. Even if they did they'd be looking to dump some sort of salary I'm sure. I think they go for the Jameer or Devin Harris type guy than a splashier higher priced guy. They just need someone to help keep Lebron and Kyrie's mins down more than they are now.

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Old 02-04-2017, 12:40 PM   #44
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I would trade just about whatever the price was to add Nerlens Noel to this team.
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I would give our 2017 1st right now, but this isnt enough...
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I would give our 2017 1st right now, but this isnt enough...
Depends what else is being offered. I think if the right offer came along he would have been traded already. He has not been doing so much to increase what his value was before injury. He has proven that he can still play despite the injury.

I still would be hesitant to give up even top10 protected first pick. I would have to seriously look at all draft prospects. You also have to take into account that Noel would have to play center in Dallas. I think he would be fine at that position.

But still, if upcoming games seem to lock Dallas into seed-8, then I would agree to top10 pick, maybe getting 2nd round draft pick back.
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I'd honestly rather just draft Rabb or some other front court player and have him on a rookie contract for 4 years than send our pick away just to turn around and pay Noel 20-25m a year as a RFA this summer. Hasn't stayed healthy and he can't rebound. Still a hard pass from me for any kind of 1st this year. A heavily protected future one is as far as I go. And I'm not packaging a 1st plus any other meaningful asset for him either.
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I would trade just about whatever the price was to add Nerlens Noel to this team.
If Ferrell keeps this up, then I wouldn't mind at least an inquiry into Whiteside.

Problem with Noel is that he just isn't a very good rebounder...something the Mavs desperately need.
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I'm pretty convinced Nerlens's rebounding would improve if he played center more consistently. Last two seasons he's played out of position at PF. Averaged 8.1 RPG as a rookie playing all of his minutes at center.

And I agree that Whiteside would be great. My only concern is that I think he'll be really expensive.

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Old 02-04-2017, 02:10 PM   #50
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I'm pretty convinced Nerlens's rebounding would improve if he played center more consistently. Last two seasons he's played out of position at PF. Averaged 8.1 RPG as a rookie playing all of his minutes at center.

And I agree that Whiteside would be great. My only concern is that I think he'll be really expensive.
Ive watched only like 3 sixer games this year so I'm not gonna pretend I know anything about how he plays or what position he's in, I have no clue. But at least from a stats point of view according to http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../noelne01.html

He's playing 98% at the C this year. And his rebounding rate is worse than it was last year when he played more 4. And his defensive rebounds is the worst it's ever been. Embiid is playing 100% at center and Okafor is playing 90% at Center. So I think going by that it's rather accurate.
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Ive watched only like 3 sixer games this year so I'm not gonna pretend I know anything about how he plays or what position he's in, I have no clue. But at least from a stats point of view according to http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../noelne01.html

He's playing 98% at the C this year. And his rebounding rate is worse than it was last year when he played more 4. And his defensive rebounds is the worst it's ever been. Embiid is playing 100% at center and Okafor is playing 90% at Center. So I think going by that it's rather accurate.
Yeah I agree his rebounding needs to get better, but when you look at the centers available in free agency this summer, he's head and shoulders above the rest. Like it was mentioned above, if a guy like Whiteside or Drummond or someone of that ilk becomes available, do whatever you have to to get that kind of player, but as far as the guys that are going to be on the trade market at the deadline Noel is by far the best long-term option. And with like 18 teams looking at max cap space in free agency this summer, I wouldn't count on signing him this summer unless we have his RFA rights. Maybe there's a promising enough center in the draft this year that I don't really know about, but Noel is, to me, by far the best option among the (admittedly flawed) options we'll see between now and the start of next season.

Nurkic from Denver is another guy I'd have a lot of interest in. He also has his flaws but if we wait for a flawless option we're just going to keep waiting.

Edit: Also FWIW, I wouldn't hate to have our center rotation as Dirk/Mejri/Powell/Hammons for next season, but with the age of the rest of our core guys I'd much rather we find a long-term solution.

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Old 02-05-2017, 11:22 AM   #52
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What about WCS from the Kings?

I can't say that I know a lot about him but what I've seen I like and he is in the same age group as Barnes, Curry, Yogi, Anderson, Powell, DFS, Hammons, and Brussino.
If we're picking in the 14-18 group would he be worth the pick or am I vastly overvaluing this guy?
Or would Kings laugh at that offer?

I know he has been compared somewhat to TC in the past and that seems to be the type of center we need.

Thoughts???
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Old 02-05-2017, 12:36 PM   #53
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If Ferrell keeps this up, then I wouldn't mind at least an inquiry into Whiteside.

Problem with Noel is that he just isn't a very good rebounder...something the Mavs desperately need.
So far he hasn't been playing against trash point guards either.

Let's look at the matchups.
Tony Parker 16 pts, 4 ast, -12
Yogi Ferrell 9 pts, 2 reb, 7 ast, 2 stl, +11

Kyrie Irving 18 pts, 5 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl, -4
Yogi Ferrell 19 pts, 5 reb, 3 ast, 4 stl, +10

TJ McConnell 8 pts, 4 reb, 4 ast, 1 stl, -9
Yogi Ferrell 11 pts, 3 reb, 5 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, +2

Damian Lillard 13 pts, 9 reb, 6 ast, 1 blk, -1
Yogi Ferrell 32 pts, 2 reb, 5 ast, +3

I like it how he's won 4 straight matchups. I wonder if he'll be able to keep it up against the rest of the league. I hope rumors of a 2 year (hopefully longer) contract is true.
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What about WCS from the Kings?

I can't say that I know a lot about him but what I've seen I like and he is in the same age group as Barnes, Curry, Yogi, Anderson, Powell, DFS, Hammons, and Brussino.
If we're picking in the 14-18 group would he be worth the pick or am I vastly overvaluing this guy?
Or would Kings laugh at that offer?

I know he has been compared somewhat to TC in the past and that seems to be the type of center we need.

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WCS is really intriging, he produced really well at the end of last season. It really depends where we pick but yeah 14-18 i probably give up for the guy...
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Looks like my 11-11 prediction is right on course.
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I predicted 8 wins and we are 10-6 so far with no signs of slowing down.

I'd still be alive on price is right tho. And isn't that truly what matters here?
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Also I really like WCS. But I'm not giving up our 1 this year for him. Future 1 ok, but not this year. Guys in the top 15 this year(maybe even deeper than that) are arguably as talented as top 5-7 in a usual draft, is the narrative being tossed around.

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12-8.

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I fully expect us to go 12-10, which is worst case scenario.
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