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Old 03-11-2020, 09:33 PM   #81
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This game proves that Rick Carlisle is not the idiot that some people keep making him out to be, and that the Mavs can close games.
Lol

So your saying boban would have played if Brunson or DFS or KP had all played?

I don't he would have sniffed the court because our top 3 head coach would have relied on analytics instead lol
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Lol

She vanished quickly

She's been one of the people always saying boban can't do this or he can't do that

Boban simply doesnt get enough minutes to prove anyone wrong

People who read the tea leaves of 'analytics' and think they understand basketball are like people who do connect-the-dots and think they understand art.
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This game proves that Rick Carlisle is not the idiot that some people keep making him out to be, and that the Mavs can close games.

This game 'proves' that Carlisle's failure to create a meaningful role for Boban is grounds for dismissal.


And it's not even his biggest failure of the season.
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Kings Pelicans cancelled. We won the last game of the season (perhaps)

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Old 03-11-2020, 09:36 PM   #85
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Bobi played an amazing game. No denying that. Probably the best game of his career. Let’s not ignore the fact that he did it against a team that plays at a slower pace, and has a big lumbering (albeit very talented) center. Boban can fill up a stat sheet, but he is going to struggle with quick big guys that make him play on the perimeter.
He only plays on the perimeter if RC doesn't go zone which is mindboggling to me. WTH do you have a giant 7'4" man rotate out to the 3-pt line to guard a smaller man? THAT scenario is one of the exact reasons why a zone was invented. SMH You keep the giant around the rim. It's not rocket surgery.

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Uhhh, he had nobody else to play basically. LOL How many of us have been clamoring all season for some lineup changes involving bigs? The only reason Boban played was because the roster is so thin that Carlisle had no other choice. Given a full roster, he'd have gone small and we'd probably be leaving with an L.
My post was parody. One game obviously proves jack shit about anything.
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I would be kinda mad if I was in the arena of that Kings/Pelicans games. I took the risk and might have been exposed to coronavirus yet the game gets canned.
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This game 'proves' that Carlisle's failure to create a meaningful role for Boban is grounds for dismissal.


And it's not even his biggest failure of the season.
Jesus guys. Sarcasm. Lol. Your post however, sounds like you might be serious.
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Great win. A mythbusting one, some might say.
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Bobi played an amazing game. No denying that. Probably the best game of his career. Let’s not ignore the fact that he did it against a team that plays at a slower pace, and has a big lumbering (albeit very talented) center. Boban can fill up a stat sheet, but he is going to struggle with quick big guys that make him play on the perimeter.
Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, and he couldn't play more than a few minutes at a time either. Hey, I've got a novel idea. What if Boban actually got the opportunity to PLAY, so we could see if he could actually do it or not before we just write him off some more? Mindboggling suggestion, I know. ;-)

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Can't wait for Nuggets to challenge the loss because they were in shock due to coronavirus and game should not have been played, and since we're the Mavs with Cuban as owner challenge granted.
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My post was parody. One game obviously proves jack shit about anything.
While you have a point, had it gone differently, we'd have never heard the end of it. "THAT'S exactly why Boban hardly eva plays, and only get 2 minutes at a time." Blah, blah, blah. :-P

Edit: Based upon your previous comments this year, there's little reason to suspect that your post was sarcasm or a parody. Maybe /s next time? ;-)

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Great win. A mythbusting one, some might say.
Nah, some people prefer to think that this game was a unicorn sighting. We'll never really know imo, in light of the season being suspended as well as the crazy confluence of injuries and back-to-backs that pretty much handcuffed RC and forced him to play Bobi extended minutes. It is satisfying to me at least that there was this ONE game where Boban did make a significant difference playing extended minutes, but I doubt if he's put in this situation again in the future. It's just not in RC's DNA to play that style of basketball when he has a choice in the matter.

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Can't believe this is how the season ends. NBA has cancelled the season. ;(
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Bobi played an amazing game. No denying that. Probably the best game of his career. Letís not ignore the fact that he did it against a team that plays at a slower pace, and has a big lumbering (albeit very talented) center. Boban can fill up a stat sheet, but he is going to struggle with quick big guys that make him play on the perimeter.
People who say that Boban gets "exposed" on defense should be required to provide time-stamped video clips showing exactly when and where and against whom he is being "exposed".

I don't see him getting beaten any more than Porzingis or Kleber, both of whom get beaten by good shots.

And Bobie gets up and down the court as well as anyone. If only Luka would stop complaining and pouting and bust his hump like Boban does.
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Can't believe this is how the season ends. NBA has cancelled the season. ;(
Look at the bright side, we won the last game of the NBA season. Every other time that's happened the team gets a ring. WHERE'S OUR RING.
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People who say that Boban gets "exposed" on defense should be required to provide time-stamped video clips showing exactly when and where and against whom he is being "exposed".

I don't see him getting beaten any more than Porzingis or Kleber, both of whom get beaten by good shots.

And Bobie gets up and down the court as well as anyone. If only Luka would stop complaining and pouting and bust his hump like Boban does.
seriously....wat?

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seriously....wat?
Bring receipts. Time-stamped video clips of Boban failing to get back on defense.

You won't do it, because you can't do it, because they don't exist.
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Bobi played an amazing game. No denying that. Probably the best game of his career. Letís not ignore the fact that he did it against a team that plays at a slower pace, and has a big lumbering (albeit very talented) center. Boban can fill up a stat sheet, but he is going to struggle with quick big guys that make him play on the perimeter.
Yep that would explain why he can never play heavy minutes vs the Lakers, Bucks, Blazers, Jazz, Spurs, T-Wolves, Suns, Cavs or Grizzlies

These are the centers that play for those teams and they aren't fast or quick

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Boban would probably limited minutes vs those bigs if the mavs were fully healthy

We would use smaller rotation players before we use boban vs those teams and players

Tonight imo shows he can play more than 6 or 8 minutes if you utilize him right

Coming into to tonight you had so many fans swearing up and down that he couldn't play and be effective for big minutes vs anyone because he would wear down

I saw no signs him wearing down in fact he seemed to get better as the game moved forward and I bet it was because he got consistent minutes and was able to get into a better groove doing the game.

Some of y'all will defend RC decisions to the grave

The point is we don't know what boban can do on a nightly basis because he's never given a fair chance to prove us right or wrong

But I saw him go toe to toe with a top 3 center in the nba tonight and he held up very well while playing close to 30 minutes
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Yep that would explain why he can never play heavy minutes vs the Lakers, Bucks, Blazers, Jazz, Spurs, T-Wolves, Suns, Cavs or Grizzlies

These are the centers that play for those teams and they aren't fast or quick

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Boban would probably limited minutes vs those bigs if the mavs were fully healthy

We would use smaller rotation players before we use boban vs those teams and players

Tonight imo shows he can play more than 6 or 8 minutes if you utilize him right

Coming into to tonight you had so many fans swearing up and down that he couldn't play and be effective for big minutes vs anyone because he would wear down

I saw no signs him wearing down in fact he seemed to get better as the game moved forward and I bet it was because he got consistent minutes and was able to get into a better groove doing the game.

Some of y'all will defend RC decisions to the grave

The point is we don't know what boban can do on a nightly basis because he's never given a fair chance to prove us right or wrong

But I saw him go toe to toe with a top 3 center in the nba tonight and he held up very well while playing close to 30 minutes
Yep
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While you have a point, had it gone differently, we'd have never heard the end of it. "THAT'S exactly why Boban hardly eva plays, and only get 2 minutes at a time." Blah, blah, blah. :-P

Edit: Based upon your previous comments this year, there's little reason to suspect that your post was sarcasm or a parody. Maybe /s next time? ;-)
Iíve never said Boban sucks, or anything close to that. Iíve called him a walking bucket, and acknowledged that he is a great rebounder and microwave type scorer. I used to play quite a bit of daily fantasy and I know the stats he can rack up in a small amount of minutes.

I also know that he can be a liability on defense, and have only disagreed with you that he ďshuts down the paintĒ, and that he is a great rim protector. I also know that plenty of great coaches have used him in the exact same manner that Carlisle uses him, as a situational player.

Apologies for not using the /s tag
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Carlisle post game

Props to boban he hung in their from start to finish

Guess what coach maybe he could do more of that if you just allowed him more rope

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So my sarcastic Boban Schmoban obviously triggered him. I'd like to take this time to apologize to absolutely nobody.

I have YouTube Tv and Im out of town so I will definitely be watching this one soon.

Crazy stuff happening in the NBA tonight.
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Carlisle post game

Props to boban he hung in their from start to finish

Guess what coach maybe he could do more of that if you just allowed him more rope
Last night would've been nice time to try instead of yanking him after Aldridge got those back to back strips.
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The suspension could work out well for the Mavs. Luka and others can get healthy and the Mavs can PRACTICE. Wow, this could turn out to be a real blessing for the Mavs imo.

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While you have a point, had it gone differently, we'd have never heard the end of it. "THAT'S exactly why Boban hardly eva plays, and only get 2 minutes at a time." Blah, blah, blah. :-P

Edit: Based upon your previous comments this year, there's little reason to suspect that your post was sarcasm or a parody. Maybe /s next time? ;-)
This should be pointed more in ELs direction than Jive. A few others as well.
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The suspension could work out well for the Mavs. Luka and others can get healthy and the Mavs can PRACTICE. Wow, this could turn out to be a real blessing for the Mavs imo.
If there's even going to be a season to resume.
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Yep that would explain why he can never play heavy minutes vs the Lakers, Bucks, Blazers, Jazz, Spurs, T-Wolves, Suns, Cavs or Grizzlies

These are the centers that play for those teams and they aren't fast or quick

Dwight Howard
Andre Ayton
Aaron Baynes
Karl Towns
Tristan Thompson
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Brook Lopez
Aldridge
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Steve Adams
Javelle McGee
Joel Embid

Boban would probably limited minutes vs those bigs if the mavs were fully healthy

We would use smaller rotation players before we use boban vs those teams and players

Tonight imo shows he can play more than 6 or 8 minutes if you utilize him right

Coming into to tonight you had so many fans swearing up and down that he couldn't play and be effective for big minutes vs anyone because he would wear down

I saw no signs him wearing down in fact he seemed to get better as the game moved forward and I bet it was because he got consistent minutes and was able to get into a better groove doing the game.

Some of y'all will defend RC decisions to the grave

The point is we don't know what boban can do on a nightly basis because he's never given a fair chance to prove us right or wrong

But I saw him go toe to toe with a top 3 center in the nba tonight and he held up very well while playing close to 30 minutes
FWIW Iíve never actually believed the big minutes/wearing down thing with Boban, because Iíve never seen evidence of it, and Iíve never heard a coach give that as a reason for not playing him every night. Iíve heard them mention plenty of other reasons, though.
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Also I want to point out that the mavs offens looked better closing this game out mainly because they actually had someone who could get them easy buckets without jacking up a 3

Boban is so efficient inside that some of you would still prefer the missed 3's down the stretch as opposed to having a guy out there who can punish people in the paint.

I been saying all year if the mavs settled for less 3's late in games they'd have a few more wins because points in the paint still matter.

Imagine if you had boban on the floor doing key offensive possessions surrounded by shooters on the perimeter

He would give you an option to score inside without having to force up tough shots from the perimeter

This guy could be used strategically much better on this team but our fan base has fallen in love with the theory that you can only win games by jacking up 3's

And our coach loves his small ball lineups even at the expense of sitting bigger more talented players

No way in hell guys like brunson, lee, JJB, Jackson or MKG could ever give you the impact to take over a game offensively like boban can

But you will repeatedly find him not in our rotation on a nightly basis while average smaller players will be thrown into the lineup just because they space the damn floor even if their shots aren't falling and they can't defend a lick on defense

Nothing upsets me more when people say boban hurts the defense

Take a damn look around you we play lesser defensive players than boban every single night and none of them are being labeled a defensive liability by most of you.

The 1st thing erika posted was boban being a -4 in plus minutes

She didn't give a damn that he wasnt responsible for milsap killing us she just looked at +/- numbers and called out boban

That is the reason why a few us believe the dude is judged unfairly when compared to other players on this roster who don't impact the games as much as him

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I am surprised the way Boban just completely dominated Jokic with the way he just swallowed up the offensive boards. He didn’t exactly shut down Jokic, though. He still hit 7-10 on his shots, and had 8 assists. Jokic does have the tendency to not be as aggressive as he should in some games.
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Bring receipts. Time-stamped video clips of Boban failing to get back on defense.

You won't do it, because you can't do it, because they don't exist.
Na im fine, i dont need to waste my time here.

Okay, Boban is as fast as anyone else back at transition defense. You convinced me and tomorrow i go to my eye doctor.
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Na im fine, i dont need to waste my time here.

Okay, Boban is as fast as anyone else back at transition defense. You convinced me and tomorrow i go to my eye doctor.
That's what I thought.
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At least i can go to my eye doctor without co-pay

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When people wonder why these boards have gone to crap, welp, just look at page three on this thread.

Can't just be happy that we "finished" the season 13 games above .500. That would be too easy.
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When people wonder why these boards have gone to crap, welp, just look at page three on this thread.

Can't just be happy that we "finished" the season 13 games above .500. That would be too easy.
Yeah and even beyond basketball, seems there's bigger more important things going on than arguing if "Boban is great" or not great.
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So my sarcastic Boban Schmoban obviously triggered him. I'd like to take this time to apologize to absolutely nobody.

I have YouTube Tv and Im out of town so I will definitely be watching this one soon.

Crazy stuff happening in the NBA tonight.
Ha ha

Boban was awesome

You missed a good game
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This should be pointed more in ELs direction than Jive. A few others as well.
Yeah, but it was a general comment, not directed at Jive. Apologies if you thought it was directed at you Jive.
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When people wonder why these boards have gone to crap, welp, just look at page three on this thread.

Can't just be happy that we "finished" the season 13 games above .500. That would be too easy.
It went crap weeks/months ago when we were the best young upcoming team, pretty much save to make the playoffs and after every loss there was a huge pile of crap regarding Carlisle and how stupid his decisions are because of the playing time of roleplayer XY

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It went crap weeks/months ago when we were the best young upcoming team, pretty much save to make the playoffs and after every loss there was a huge pile of crap regarding Carlisle and how stupid his decisions are because of the playing time of roleplayer XY
Some of you still don't get it

Yes we are happy that the team is winning

But we also see that team has a higher floor than what some of you might think

Why settle for a 1st round exit just because your young?

I truly believe if this team used more big lineups they would be better off.

I hate to keep repeating the same things over and over again. This team doesnt have the personnel to survive defensively playing small ball and it's cost them a legit 5 less wins maybe more.

Yes they are young and probably a year ahead of schedule but it seems like for every blown lead or late game meltdown that is being used as an excuse when I think it's more about the personel being used in some of those blown leads and meltdowns

If your getting killed on the boards for example vs Atlanta and you've got a 7'3 guy on the bench who could help you (Boban) vs Dwayne fuching Dedmon yet you still keep him glued to the bench that has nothing to do with inexperience players that's called not making adjustments as a coach to put your team in the best situation to win

Yet some fans will defend that type of nonsense at all cost and tell you boban wouldn't have helped vs Dedmon or Collins

But we just saw boban dominate arguably one of the top 3 centers in the game in Jokic

The mavs have played plenty of games vs teams that don't have quick/fast centers but despite that you still got fans telling us boban can't play extended minutes even doing those types of matchups yet tonight dude logged 31 minutes and got stronger as the game went on maybe because he was actually the one wearing other players down with his brute size

I already listed 10-12 teams that play legit bigs who don't camp out at the 3 point line or guys who aren't very fast like Whiteside, Vucevic or Howard yet boban will sit the bench or play 4-6 minutes while the mavs get punished inside

Yes this was just one game but it was one game that shut down all the negative crap about him not being able to play extended minutes and while maintaining production

This also might be the 1st time all year that the mavs pulled away from a team in the 4th because we actually had a big man on the floor who could get us easy buckets when those analytic 3's weren't going in

Boban scored 31 points without attempting a single damn 3 point shot so screw the perception that you can't win with a big who doesnt space the floor

Guess what the mavs scored 113 points and gave up 97 points.....

Can you believe we sacraficed some of that sexy #1 offense and spacing this game yet we still won because the nuggets couldn't punish us on the boards or in the paint down the stretch because we played two legit bigs and one of them had 17 rebounds and controlled the middle

Go figure!!!!

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