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Old 11-06-2017, 10:49 AM   #81
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Aurora: AR-15
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According to your boy Donald its not a gun issue, its a mental health issue.

Looks like USA is the only western country on earth where people with mental health issues are living.
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Dude went into the armed services mentally ill.
Dude was kicked out for being a psycho and beating his family
Dude continued to beat and threaten his family, including text messages that were reported to police.

Dude still had access to at least two rifles and two pistols with hundreds of rounds of ammo for each.

I am 100% pro gun ownership and own a gun myself for target practice and self defense, but the dangerously mentally ill, domestic abusers, and suspected terrorists should have at least a speed bump before getting their rifles and hundreds/thousands of rounds of ammo. We certainly can't stop all psychos from getting guns, but at least at some point we have to admit that making it harder for them-- even slightly-- wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, even if it means that the rest of us have to wait a couple of days to buy a gun.

Basically 0.1% of all people in the world are sociopaths or psychopaths. America isn't the only country that has these monsters. We're the only country in the developed world where it's incredibly easy for them to amass an armory and then be rewarded with nonstop media coverage after. It's a cake walk to go from angry psycho to infamous villain and it seems like each one is trying to outdo the prior.

Of the 30 deadliest shootings in American history, 18 have been in the last decade. Two of the five deadliest have happened in the last 35 days.
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Dude went into the armed services mentally ill.
I am 100% pro gun ownership and own a gun myself for target practice and self defense
I will never understand this self defense/protection argument.

If you want it for protection, you need the gun near. Unlooked. Unsafe. Kid picks it out of your purse, side table etc and boom. You keeP it save locked up? Then its no protection. Its either "feeled" protection or unsafe, so what is it you are exactly gaining here?

Ah yeah and if the day comes you may still lose. And instead of some material crap you lose your life because things excalated.

Im a german living in brazil. I would never ever even think about trying to defend me here from a thug. Even if its a way smaller teenager with a knife. There is no reason risking your life over some stupid replaceable material things like ur cell, wallet or insured car...sure, a lot of americans will call it weak, no guts, not defending "ur freedom"...i call it the smart decision.

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but the dangerously mentally ill, domestic abusers, and suspected terrorists should have at least a speed bump before getting their rifles and hundreds/thousands of rounds of ammo. We certainly can't stop all psychos from getting guns, but at least at some point we have to admit that making it harder for them-- even slightly-- wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, even if it means that the rest of us have to wait a couple of days to buy a gun.
Improved background checks etc wont change a thing. This people buy then their weapons still dirt cheap on the black market. You have to ban the sales and kill the black market, thats the only way to prevent most of the guys from at least getting their hands on assault weapons. Australia banned guns in 1996. The Sandy hook Bushmaster (less than 1000 bucks in the usa) costs there way over 30000$ on the black market. You think the guy yesterday, the colorado or the Sandy Hook guy, could have handed out this amount of cash?

Thats how you do it. Thats the only way. Ban the shit and dry out the black market until the prices skyrock...then you get lucky when the nutjobs "just" buy normal pistols etc on the black market and kill 4-5 people instead of 40-50

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Every teacher need a gun and this stuff wont happen.

I swear....really....totally...
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According to your boy Donald its not a gun issue, its a mental health issue.

Looks like USA is the only western country on earth where people with mental health issues are living.
Damn, the bodies were still warm and Donald played allready the mental health card on twitter
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You live in a country where like half of the people still believe in this "protection" crap
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Damn, the bodies were still warm and Donald played allready the mental health card on twitter
Which is amazing considering one of his first orders of business after getting elected was to roll back Obama era legislation that prevented people with certain mental health disorders from buying weapons.
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I like AR-15s as they are cool guns and come in many varieties.

The real question is this: Will my life have less quality if they are banned, or god forbid, not sold to mentally ill people.

No, no it won't.

And it's almost always an AR. Just get rid of that gun and go from there.
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as to the OP thread title
....and humanity's descent into madness

And the Devil Smiled by Todd Starnes
Feb 15, 2018 By Todd Starnes

Another American high school has been turned into a killing field. And the nation wonders why.

Well, I'm going to answer that question for you. And the answer may leave you a bit unsettled. You see - I believe there is a God -- but I also believe there is a Devil. And I see his hand at work here.

We've raised a generation to believe that truth is relative - that there is no right or wrong.
And the Devil smiled.

They kicked God out of public schools - banned Bibles and prayer.
And the Devil smiled.

We've destroyed the traditional family - broken homes raising broken kids
And the Devil smiled.

There are no consequences for bad behavior - no personal responsibility.
And the Devil smiled.

Our movies and music and games glorify violence and gore. Marriage vows poisoned by pornography.
And the Devil smiled.

What happened in Parkland, Florida is about wickedness - a war with the forces of darkness - good versus evil.

There is no doubt our land is wounded, her people suffering. But we have turned our backs on the One who promised to heal our Land.

The politicians and pundits would have you believe this is not about God, it's not about righteousness. They would have you believe it's about politics and mental illness and gun control.
And the Devil smiled.
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....and humanity's descent into madness

And the Devil Smiled by Todd Starnes
Feb 15, 2018 By Todd Starnes

Another American high school has been turned into a killing field. And the nation wonders why.

Well, I'm going to answer that question for you. And the answer may leave you a bit unsettled. You see - I believe there is a God -- but I also believe there is a Devil. And I see his hand at work here.

We've raised a generation to believe that truth is relative - that there is no right or wrong.
And the Devil smiled.

They kicked God out of public schools - banned Bibles and prayer.
And the Devil smiled.

We've destroyed the traditional family - broken homes raising broken kids
And the Devil smiled.

There are no consequences for bad behavior - no personal responsibility.
And the Devil smiled.

Our movies and music and games glorify violence and gore. Marriage vows poisoned by pornography.
And the Devil smiled.

What happened in Parkland, Florida is about wickedness - a war with the forces of darkness - good versus evil.

There is no doubt our land is wounded, her people suffering. But we have turned our backs on the One who promised to heal our Land.

The politicians and pundits would have you believe this is not about God, it's not about righteousness. They would have you believe it's about politics and mental illness and gun control.
And the Devil smiled.
Tell that to the "righteous believers" of Sutherland Springs...

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Aurora: AR-15
Orlando: AR-15
Las Vegas: AR-15
Sandy Hook: AR-15
Umpqua CC: AR-15
San Bernardino: AR-15
Sutherland Springs: AR-15
Parkland: AR-15
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....and humanity's descent into madness

And the Devil Smiled by Todd Starnes
Feb 15, 2018 By Todd Starnes

Another American high school has been turned into a killing field. And the nation wonders why.

Well, I'm going to answer that question for you. And the answer may leave you a bit unsettled. You see - I believe there is a God -- but I also believe there is a Devil. And I see his hand at work here.

We've raised a generation to believe that truth is relative - that there is no right or wrong.
And the Devil smiled.

They kicked God out of public schools - banned Bibles and prayer.
And the Devil smiled.

We've destroyed the traditional family - broken homes raising broken kids
And the Devil smiled.

There are no consequences for bad behavior - no personal responsibility.
And the Devil smiled.

Our movies and music and games glorify violence and gore. Marriage vows poisoned by pornography.
And the Devil smiled.

What happened in Parkland, Florida is about wickedness - a war with the forces of darkness - good versus evil.

There is no doubt our land is wounded, her people suffering. But we have turned our backs on the One who promised to heal our Land.

The politicians and pundits would have you believe this is not about God, it's not about righteousness. They would have you believe it's about politics and mental illness and gun control.
And the Devil smiled.
Sorry, i dont want to offend you...but what a boatload of horseshit.

I dont want to list all the evil the church did in the name of "god"...you can start with the crusades and end somewhere near the sexual abuse scandal.

The church needs to be kicked out of the public life like schools etc. In your free time, do whatever....go to church, dont go...pray, dont pray...what you think its best for yourself. But it should not be forced on anyone.

PS: I wrote a shorter version:
"We keep as only western country an outdated and absurd gun law for no logical reason in the year 2018. And the devil smiled."

Thats it. ONLY this.
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Number of school shootings that have happened around the world since the year 2000:

ENGLAND: 0
GREECE: 1
NETHERLANDS: 1
SPAIN: 1
INDIA: 1
ARGENTINA: 1
RUSSIA: 1
CHINA: 3
MEXICO: 4
AUSTRALIA: 5
CANADA: 5
GERMANY: 5
SOUTH AFRICA: 5
USA: 213
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Seriously, is Dan Patrick an idiot?

So its the right amount of guns, its just too many doors! Who cares about fire regulations, guns are more important

https://twitter.com/TomNamako/status/997557776850268162

Thank you Fox News:
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I'm sue I will get hammered for this on this site, but I don't guns are anywhere close to the biggest issue here. Sure, it's the biggest hot button issue, but it's become political at this point. Once things become political, it's more about who can scream the loudest and who's team will win and less about who actually wants to improve the situation.
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I'm sue I will get hammered for this on this site, but I don't guns are anywhere close to the biggest issue here. Sure, it's the biggest hot button issue, but it's become political at this point. Once things become political, it's more about who can scream the loudest and who's team will win and less about who actually wants to improve the situation.


I actually tend to agree. By far and away the media glorification of the subject is the biggest issue. Easily influenced, troubled youth disconnected from society/ reality in part due to social media with easy access to weapons being exposed to the 24/7 media frenzy (right as the alt-right creeps into the mainstream because our 'president' has hijacked issues that appeal to baser instincts) is the real problem.
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No, its not. Sorry to disappoint you. Its the guns. Its ONLY the guns.

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"No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"
Every freaking western country has a lot of mental ill people. Every freaking country has millions of kids being bullied etc etc. And no, there are not even close as many deaths in europe or even the rest of the world.

So...soon...when the next bunch of kids or normal people get their brains spilled over the floor...dont start to discuss mental illness or doors or armed guards or politic instrumentalizing the topic...just say "Ah..who cares, bad luck for them, our guns are more important". Because thats it.

The freaking guns are the problem. But instead at least half of the people blame something else. Anything else but the guns.


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Probably the synagogue had too many doors...too bad, thats why it happened.
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