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Mbt wouldn't even consider Conley with that ridiculous contract. Brunson is no Conley or Walker but he's absolutely serviceable and needs room to grow. Luka and KP should be great but not to the point yet where we have to press to contend next season at the cost of acquiring a Conley.
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:59 AM   #1042
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@hoosinthenba: Malcolm Brogdon had 15 points (5-9 fg, 3-6 3pt), 3 ast, 3 reb in the Bucks win over the Raptors. Bucks lead the series 1-0

@MitchMossRadio: Malcolm Brogdon was +64 in the 4 regular season games against Toronto. Easily the best by any player from either team. He was +18 in game one. Middleton was next at +10.

@townbrad: Seeing why Mavs Twitter is gaga about Brogdon.

@MavsHighlights: Brogdon's 3rd 3 of the first half
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@KeithSmithNBA: I'm really curious to see how the Bucks navigate the summer. Middleton, Lopez, Mirotic and Brogdon all being free agents is tough. And they don't have any form of Bird Rights to aid in re-signing Lopez. This team is going to get really expensive, really quickly.
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Ilyasova gives you 90% of what Mirotic does and less than half the cost. Just a question of whether they go above 15m or so for Brogden if he gets an offer closer to 20m per year
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I'm guessing the Bucks match anything up to 20 for Brogdon...especially if they make it to the NBA finals or more.

I like him, but I just don't think he'll be worth what you have to pay him to get Mil not to match.
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I'm guessing the Bucks match anything up to 20 for Brogdon...especially if they make it to the NBA finals or more.

I like him, but I just don't think he'll be worth what you have to pay him to get Mil not to match.

Maybe we work out a sign and trade agreement where we send cheaper rotational pieces their way. S&T Kleber for S&T Brogdon would allow Milwaukee to replace $30 million worth of Brogdon and Mirotic for $5 million of Kleber. They can then focus on re-signing Lopez and Middleton.
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Its fun to dream but 3 wins from the finals, the Bucks arent letting key guys leave. Brogdon and Middleton especially. Lopez may or may not chase money as its later in his career and DID YOU SEE THAT VICIOUS CLAP LAST NIGHT?

Mirotic may fall through the cracks but that doesnt do much for me. We need athleticism in the open floor. Career 6 rpg doesnt entice.
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Brogdon is looking good and fits age wise with our young guys. I am all for some vets and we’ll need them to win but man if we could get him, it would be a great addition. My only concern is that it might be too repetitive with having Brunson who I think will be very good and also fits very well with Luka.
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That's entirely true - or almost. Ilyasova is a bit of a fan favorite. He's been there for a few years, and I don't see him as likely to leave (or maybe more likely to be rewarded). He will be cheaper for Milwaukee to keep, and that's especially true if age is factored in. Mirotic was traded to Milwaukee recently, is considered a starter on any team, and his age suggests a contract that would make Milwaukee hesitant. If it's between letting go one or the other, I expect it to be Mirotic.

Given the fluid situation with the Buck free Agents, almost any number of things are possible. But I certainly can't see Brogdan as the odd man out. They're on record as saying they will go over the cap if they have to.

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Why didn’t the Mavericks keep Seth Curry?
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Stopped reading at "Curry was a pretty good defender"....no. Never understood the strange fascination some fans have with him. He has had one or two decent playoff games and is still the same player. Can shoot and not much else.

Anyway, we have a 6'7 Seth Curry named Ryan Broekhoff.
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Woulda liked Seth here, but seems weird to be in full rebuild to have one of those
"finishing" pieces on the roster when we didn't even have a core. At the end of the 2016-2017 season, we were in no position to be collecting those types of pieces-- we needed a core first.
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Considering the Mavs were at the bottom of the WC, if you get an offer from Portland and Dallas, Id think you were crazy to stay in Dallas
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This blurb about DeAngelo Russell

"Johnson also said during the First Take interview that his decision to trade D’Angelo Russell to the Nets was directly related to the issues he had with former Lakers guard Nick Young, Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News writes. Russell pranked Young by goading his teammate into admitting that he cheated on his former fiancé, recording star Iggy Azalea. Russell posted the recording on his private Snapchat account but it became public."

Shades of the old Jason Kidd-Jim Jackson weirdness. I don't want that in the Mavs locker room
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"Johnson also said during the First Take interview that his decision to trade D’Angelo Russell to the Nets was directly related to the issues he had with former Lakers guard Nick Young, Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News writes. Russell pranked Young by goading his teammate into admitting that he cheated on his former fiancé, recording star Iggy Azalea. Russell posted the recording on his private Snapchat account but it became public."

Shades of the old Jason Kidd-Jim Jackson weirdness. I don't want that in the Mavs locker room
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One of Kemba or Brogdon + one of Looney, Ed Davis, or Dedmon = successful offseason.
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From the NBA Rumors website.

Center Jonas Valanciunas recently indicated that the coaching hire will affect whether he decides to opt in to a $17.6MM salary next season, Herrington adds. Valanciunas, who averaged 19.9 points and 10.7 rebounds per game after being acquired from the Raptors midway through the season, has a June 13 deadline to make his decision.
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ESPN NBA Insider Brian Windhorst talks NBA Playoffs and Mavericks Free Agency
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Also = playoff spot (6-8 at least)
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Center Jonas Valanciunas recently indicated that the coaching hire will affect whether he decides to opt in to a $17.6MM salary next season, Herrington adds. Valanciunas, who averaged 19.9 points and 10.7 rebounds per game after being acquired from the Raptors midway through the season, has a June 13 deadline to make his decision.
JV was top 6 in rebounding rate last season so he'd be a really nice rebounder next to KP.

Also like the idea that we'd play KP and a big rebounding center together sometimes, but we'd also have rotations where we'd always have either KP or a center out there to control tempo and set the tone.
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Was going to post this earlier, but now that Kemba has made the cut, Mavs fans can probably cross him off our summer list...


@rick_bonnell: Reports that All-NBA team will be announced today. If @KembaWalker is one of six guards to make the team, he becomes Super-Max eligible. That raises the most the Hornets can offer him, from $190M over 5 years to $221 million.

@rick_bonnell: Remember, Hornets general manager Mitch Kupchak is on record as saying the franchise will do whatever it can to re-sign Walker. Super-Max eligible raises that bar.
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Yeah lets see if they offer supermax and if he would turn 80m down to change teams...

Even with changing teams he would have way over 200m in career earnings...

Kemba made 3rd team with 51 points, Beal had 34...

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Was going to post this earlier, but now that Kemba has made the cut, Mavs fans can probably cross him off our summer list...


@rick_bonnell: Reports that All-NBA team will be announced today. If @KembaWalker is one of six guards to make the team, he becomes Super-Max eligible. That raises the most the Hornets can offer him, from $190M over 5 years to $221 million.

@rick_bonnell: Remember, Hornets general manager Mitch Kupchak is on record as saying the franchise will do whatever it can to re-sign Walker. Super-Max eligible raises that bar.
Hornets would be idiots to throw him a super-max.
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Unfortunately, the Hornets are idiots
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Might be fortunate. I like Walker for the right price, but they may price us out of a pricey mistake.
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Kemba on a 4 year normal max is a risk worth taking with that ass sucking 2020 FA class..
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Might be fortunate. I like Walker for the right price, but they may price us out of a pricey mistake.
Potentially Paying a pricey priced player
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As I sit here in my cubicle it’s ridiculous how much money some of these athletes make. $221 million could pay for 5 generations of one family.
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Yea Kemba became that much harder to obtain. He's going to be, as they say in this thread, pricey.
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I agree it seems ridiculous in a vacuum that someone could make that much money playing a game, but that's capitalism I suppose. The NBA rakes in billions of dollars every year and the players are directly responsible for that, if the players weren't getting their piece of that money it would just go to the already obscenely rich guys that own the teams.

I wish people like doctors, firemen, and police officers could generate that kind of income, as they are actually providing a valuable service to society, but unfortunately no one wants to spend $2000 on court side seats to watch a surgeon remove a cancerous tumor, even though saving a life is obviously infinitely more important than watching some guy bounce a ball on the ground.
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I'm not a fan of Windhorst, but he might be onto something here. Thanks for posting.
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If we think Kemba has become too pricey, I would go hard after Brogdon and if that doesn’t work then Beverly.
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Malcolm Brogdon would be a perfect fit in Dallas, if he’s available
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Old 05-24-2019, 09:17 AM   #1073
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If we think Kemba has become too pricey, I would go hard after Brogdon and if that doesn’t work then Beverly.
I really want to add top tier talent, but damn, I don't want to offer Kemba a supermax. That's a truckload of cash.
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I really want to add top tier talent, but damn, I don't want to offer Kemba a supermax. That's a truckload of cash.
Well you're in luck because we can't offer him supermax. Just max.
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Well you're in luck because we can't offer him supermax. Just max.
He can still earn 33 mill this year and 35 mill next year (as a 30-year old). Thats a lot and basically all of our cap space for the foreseeable future.

His contract would most likely go from 29years old to 34
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He can still earn 33 mill this year and 35 mill next year (as a 30-year old). Thats a lot and basically all of our cap space for the foreseeable future.

His contract would most likely go from 29years old to 34
After watching these playoffs, while exciting, some of the potential Mav targets have not played to my liking - Vuc and Brogdon come to mind. This is going to be a more challenging off-season than I thought.

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What does it take to pry Brogdan away? Do they match anything up to 20m? May depend on whether they can move Snell (they should be able to) and of course what happens with Middleton. Assuming the re-sign Middleton for somewhere in the neighborhood of 28m and they can dump Snell by attaching the 31st pick, they let Mirotic walk and find a way to sign Lopez (full taxpayer MLE?) what # would be too much for Brogdon? Do they try to move Bledsoe? Lots of decisions for them this summer.
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You all will think I am crazy, but here’s why we actually have a shot at Kevin Durant this year…

1) TX ties (went to UT)
2) Mavs will have the cap space to give him a full max... no it’s not the supermax Golden State can offer, but the state tax difference makes it closer than the typical $80 million
3) KD doesn’t want the scrutiny that comes with NY or Boston
4) KD knows his only shot at redemption is to sign with a team facing an uphill battle in the crazy competitive West. KP and Luka provide just enough star power to give him help but not so much (given their age) that there’s a question as to “whose” team it is.

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You all will think I am crazy, but here’s why we actually have a shot at Kevin Durant this year…

1) TX ties (went to UT)
2) Mavs will have the cap space to give him a full max... no it’s not the supermax Golden State can offer, but the state tax difference makes it closer than the typical $80 million
3) KD doesn’t want the scrutiny that comes with NY or Boston
4) KD knows his only shot at redemption is to sign with a team facing an uphill battle in the crazy competitive West. KP and Luka provide just enough star power to give him help but not so much (given their age) that there’s a question as to “whose” team it is.

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3) KD doesn’t want the scrutiny that comes with NY or Boston
4) KD knows his only shot at redemption is to sign with a team facing an uphill battle in the crazy competitive West. KP and Luka provide just enough star power to give him help but not so much (given their age) that there’s a question as to “whose” team it is.

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