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Old 01-05-2019, 07:37 PM   #1
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33 days left until the deadline

Mavs need to either make cap, make trades, or both.

Not many rumors floating around:
Teams want Barea. Barea wants to stay

Thatís the only one Iíve read so far. Gonna be a tough year. Lots of teams will be buyers. Not many teams that have to concede and sell. Mavs also have almost nothing in the form of assets other than youth, and maybe a couple of vets like Barea, Barnes, Kleber, etc
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Bill Walton isnít a coach or a GM, is he?
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So trades? Watching the Mavs is kinda terrible so might as well think about trades.
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Clear the house, keep Luka/Kleber/DFS/Brunson
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So trades? Watching the Mavs is kinda terrible so might as well think about trades.
Keep Luka.


Literally everyone else is available to me.

My knee-jerk reaction of the night - I'd trade DSJ for Mikal right now if it was remotely possible.
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Yes keep Luka and trade whatever you can if it makes sense.

And please trade away DSJ. No good jump shot and no court vision or enough basketball IQ to play alongside Luka and take Luka the ball away. (you see it the last 2 games again he runs without a head into the opponents)

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Teams want Barea. Barea wants to stay
We should be selling Barea at TDL depending on where we are in the standings of course. We can always re-sign him in the off-season like we did Harris.
If Harris can yield McDerrmott/2nd Round Pick then Barea should be able to yield something similar.
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Well Thibs is available
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LOL and they had a better record than us...
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lol and they wanna replace him with Hoiberg....shows how sad the pool of available coaches is.

And no thanks to Thib, horrible overrated. He would run Luka into the ground for some extra regular season wins...
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Keep Luka.


Literally everyone else is available to me.

My knee-jerk reaction of the night - I'd trade DSJ for Mikal right now if it was remotely possible.
Suns have a bunch of young wings, but Bridges may be the most untouchable. Josh Jackson and Kelly Oubre would be the first to go, I'd think.
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@AmicoHoops: #Cavs’ Kevin Love drawing interest despite injury, with #Hornets and #Mavs emerging as possible suitors. But a deal may not happen before deadline. http://amicohoops.net/hornets-mavs-i...-have-to-wait/
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@AmicoHoops: #Cavsí Kevin Love drawing interest despite injury, with #Hornets and #Mavs emerging as possible suitors. But a deal may not happen before deadline. http://amicohoops.net/hornets-mavs-i...-have-to-wait/
Not a big KL fan at all.
Putting a rebounder who doesn't play D next to a rebounder who doesn't play D doesn't seem to make much sense. Yes he can spread the floor but I'd rather just give Maxi the opportunity.
Besides, KL is past his prime and is injury prone.

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Not advocating Kevin Love (obviously you have health and age concerns), but we can overpay for a second star if he's on the same timeline as Luka. You might not want to pay Love 30M+ until 2022/23, but the real question is whether you'd be willing to pay both 40M, which might not sound as bad.
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Yeah i prefer to throw 80-90m at Randle before i trade for Loves 100m
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Desperation is a hell of a drug.

I'm surprised that there arent more trade rumors involving the mavs. Luka has changed everything and the lack of solid players around him is obvious to everyone.
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Love belongs on an All-NBA Career Empty Stats team right next to Melo... Nothing he gives you translates into more wins.
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Yep....thats why its so important to trade now for best fit and not sexy looking raw numbers, or big name or "talented but not a great fit".

Like often mentioned, Porter looks not sexy and is overpaid but he would be a great fit.
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Anything coming from Amico can be disregarded. He might be the least credible reporter out there. I hope like hell we are looking to make some trades though.
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No reputable rumors. That often means there's something brewing as we don't often leak info. The biggest trades we've had have come after the quietest leadups.

Then again I think the odds that we stay pat and beg Barnes to opt out next year for 75mill in cap is the likeliest scenario.
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would love to see us surround Luka with fellow Euro-league players that are now playing here in the NBA.
DJ and Wes to Miami for Whiteside and Dragic (Luka loves Goran)
Barnes to Denver for Juan Hernangomez or his brother (Bobcats) Willy Hernangomez
Anyone to the Kings for Bogdan Bogdanović (another friend of Luka)
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would love to see us surround Luka with fellow Euro-league players that are now playing here in the NBA.
DJ and Wes to Miami for Whiteside and Dragic (Luka loves Goran)
Barnes to Denver for Juan Hernangomez or his brother (Bobcats) Willy Hernangomez
Anyone to the Kings for Bogdan Bogdanović (another friend of Luka)
Totally agree we need to surround Luka with euros to make him as comfortable as possible, everything from this point on has to be about keeping Luka in a Mavs uniform for as long as possible. It also helps that those euro guys have a really pleasing play style and are fun to watch.

I'd add Vucevic and/or Porzingis as free agent targets.
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I dont think you can expect Luka to have the same amount of loyalty to Dallas as Dirk did. Not to mention different eras. If the FO isnt doing everything going forward to keep him in a Mavs jersey, I wont be surprised if he doesnt stay here for his career.
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lol and they wanna replace him with Hoiberg....shows how sad the pool of available coaches is.

And no thanks to Thib, horrible overrated. He would run Luka into the ground for some extra regular season wins...
Thibs was the worst coach in the league.
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I wouldn't touch Love even if he was free i.e. salary dump.
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I could see us gunning for Vucevic in FA.

Unless DAJ can deliver another notable to us. I HIGHLY doubt Durant even gives us a look. But what if we could turn DSJ and other assets into a Kemba or Beal or Butler level player somehow? Trade Wes and Powell and a 2nd for Porter and expiring Morris. Flip Barnes and DSJ for Kemba. And we have something like: DAJ, Durant, Porter, Luka, Kemba. With Brunson, JJB, Kleber, Devin and whoever we can get for our exceptions off the bench(throw full MLE at Danny Green?) backcourt defense would be rough and we'd have three guys who need the ball, so its not perfect.

I know this an extreme long shot, just throwing ideas out.

But I think if we could get another second-tier star to pair with Luka we could get some looks in FA from next level stars in the next year or two.
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Yeah, the Trade & Draft Board often gets overlooked, so these discussions usually end up back in the General Mavs Discussion. Į\_(ツ)_/Į
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It's cool. I'll just hop on over to Fish's board. I hear they like that sort of thing there. My nom de plume: ThreadStarter (crazyyboyy's taken)

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I dont think you can expect Luka to have the same amount of loyalty to Dallas as Dirk did. Not to mention different eras. If the FO isnt doing everything going forward to keep him in a Mavs jersey, I wont be surprised if he doesnt stay here for his career.
Completely agree with this as well. Part of Dirk's loyalty to the Mavs came from him really wondering if he even belonged in the NBA during his rookie year and yet still sticking with him. And for sticking with him after 2007 when people were saying he was soft.

Luka already knows he's the shit. He's got entirely different motivations and I would not be surprised at all if one day he wanted to chase the bright lights of NY or LA. Which is why we have to everything possible to keep him happy.
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Completely agree with this as well. Part of Dirk's loyalty to the Mavs came from him really wondering if he even belonged in the NBA during his rookie year and yet still sticking with him. And for sticking with him after 2007 when people were saying he was soft.

Luka already knows he's the shit. He's got entirely different motivations and I would not be surprised at all if one day he wanted to chase the bright lights of NY or LA. Which is why we have to everything possible to keep him happy.
Gotta admit Lakers concern me when it comes to Luka....especially if they sign AD.
AD, Luka and Ingram would be lethal beyond belief when Luka is 24 or so.
And Luka seems to love the spotlight so it wouldn't surprise me if LA could pull him away from us....especially if we have a roster full of average skilled misfits.
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Gotta admit Lakers concern me when it comes to Luka....especially if they sign AD.
AD, Luka and Ingram would be lethal beyond belief when Luka is 24 or so.
And Luka seems to love the spotlight so it wouldn't surprise me if LA could pull him away from us....especially if we have a roster full of average skilled misfits.
I dont think its fair to project what he would want in 4.5 years.. or that the Mavs wouldnt put pieces around him like any other team would
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I dont think its fair to project what he would want in 4.5 years.. or that the Mavs wouldn't put pieces around him like any other team would
Why not? Cleveland had Lebron James TWICE for heaven's sake. Do you think they weren't motivated to try and keep him? They even won one championship with him, but he may have only gone back because he was from Cleveland and felt as if he owed his home town. At least that's the story. The Mavs and Dallas don't have that hometown luxury with Luka.

The Mavs need to get their act together in short order. Luka is going to be a league wide superstar and one of the most marketable players in the NBA. Teams and people will be coming out of the wood work for him. This is very different than how it was with Dirk. He won't be long for Dallas if the Mavs continue on a course of 2nd rate half-assery, and I haven't seen a whole lot out of Dallas in the last 7 years that makes me feel confident that they can make the moves to maximize Luka's opportunity to win and keep him long-term. I'd love to eat crow on this every day for the next two decades, but that's my .02.

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I dont think its fair to project what he would want in 4.5 years.. or that the Mavs wouldnt put pieces around him like any other team would
Without a draft pick most likely and virtually no trade assets it will be pretty difficult to build around him unless we start right now. Throwing together a bunch of has-beens in an effort to just make the POs for the next 2 or 3 years is not a winning strategy in terms of keeping Luka.

LA would be extremely attractive for a young foreign player with superstar potential and he'd probably get to play with a guy he idolizes for a year or so. Plus, LA should be in the PO spotlights again as a serious contender if they sign AD (which I think will happen).

Mavs should be focusing on everything they can possibly do to make sure that guy doesn't leave and that will be to put the right pieces around him. Whatever the strategy, we better be trending up when the time comes when we won't have any control of where he signs.

You're right, it is all speculation at this point but if we wait a few years to be concerned about it, it will be too late and then where will we be? Cuban and Donnie better be speculating that Luka moving on could be a strong possibility if they don't get this right.

Bottom line....from here on this should all be about Luka pure plain and simple!

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I could see us gunning for Vucevic in FA.
The way he plays this season, i can see it for sure. His defense (before: non-existent) looks also kind of solid.

Passing, range. Yeah he sucks in the P&R but DJ is huge disappointment there too.

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we are not trading DSJ for someone who is a 40 game rental because he becomes an UFA after that (Butler, Kemba). Thats suicide.

Someone mentioned Porzingis, he is an RFA, so we can forget it. Knicks fans would burn down the garden if they dont match any offer

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