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Things are done so much differently now. My oldest brother missed about 10 weeks in high school with a torn ACL.. He missed the remainder of the football season but was back on the court for basketball... This was back in the mid to late 80's. It was healed well enough for him to win district in tennis..
Sounds like a partial ACL tear IMO...no full ACL tear would heal that quickly.

Edit: or another ligament, but not ACL.

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For joints like the ACL and shoulder, you work the muscles around the joint to make them stronger to help stabliize and support the joint. You can't strengthen the ACL, but you CAN strengthen everything around the knee.

Personally, I'm on board with this plan. It's a long term approach..sacrificing using him the rest of this year to reduce the risk of any injuries and letting him probably bulk up a bit in the process, to ensure he's at peak ability for training camp.
Bingo. Also, although a minor effect, it builds a rapport with KP and his team which could go a long way in securing him long term.
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Sounds like a partial ACL tear IMO...no full ACL tear would heal that quickly.

Edit: or another ligament, but not ACL.
It was a full tear of the ACL.... He ended up tearing it again years later probably because he was rushed back. Things were different back then especially with small town high school athletics.
He tore the ACL twice and the MCL once.

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It was a full tear of the ACL.... He ended up tearing it again years later probably because he was rushed back. Things were different back then especially with small town high school athletics.
He tore the ACL twice and the MCL once.
Damn, well, that sucks he tore it again. That's so quick I had to question it!
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Damn, well, that sucks he tore it again. That's so quick I had to question it!
Man, I almost freaked out when I saw this post in the Porzingis thread!
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Man, I almost freaked out when I saw this post in the Porzingis thread!
Just talking about how times have changed.
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Just talking about how times have changed.
Yeah, I caught up -- I just didn't have any context when I saw that post, almost had a heart attack.

But you're right about times changing... We used to just tape an aspirin to it and get back out there!
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Hah my bad!
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I donít think whatís been written is totally unreasonable. Thereíve been a lot of people around star players who expect preferential treatment from the team because those stars are influential. Iím not saying KP is one of those guys. In fact a lot of those times itís the family member or close friends who behave like that.

I hope this Janis thing doesnít turn into a toxic situation and alienate other players.
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Winning cures everything. As long as we're competing, I don't think KP or any family member has reasons to complain.
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One topic from the press conference that I found interesting was when Rick proactively went out of his way to acknowledge KPs support team.

"One other thing I want to mention, Kristops brother Janis is here who represents him, and I just want to recognize him, b/c he and I spent a couple hours talking last night, just getting to know each other. And, he is a very important part of Kristops team including Dan who does PR.. etc."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qHOg9Qb6Bk - go to 11:18 for the quote.


I'm not entirely certain of how fractured the relationship was between the Knicks and KP's support team, but statements like this indicate to me that this is a central part of the "recruitment" of KP.
In light of the NY article, bumping my previous comment. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Watch Dirks introduction presser in 1999....Nelson mentioning Holger etc.

Same crap.
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Makes perfect sense. Holger is very important to Dirk. If we never mentioned him, then Dirk may have cared far less about staying in Dallas.
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Deadline day was relatively quiet, but there was a slew of major deals in the week leading up to Thursday. The biggest, by far, was last week's trade between the New York Knicks and Dallas Mavericks. New York sent would-be franchise player Kristaps Porzingis to Dallas along with Tim Hardaway, Jr., Courtney Lee and Trey Burke in return for Dennis Smith, Jr., Wesley Matthews, DeAndre Jordan and two future first-round picks.

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It's funny how some media are so obviously biased. Porzingis is without a doubt the biggest single player that got traded, yet New York is the winner and Dallas .... is not even mentioned???? WTF?

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It's funny how some media are so obviously biased. Porzingis is without a doubt the biggest single player that got traded, yet New York is the winner and Dallas .... is not even mentioned???? WTF?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...rs/2805628002/

Itís becsuse they can now get two max players if two max players want to get to them. Even if itís only a hope....getting two superstars is better where they were at prior to the trade.
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Itís becsuse they can now get two max players if two max players want to get to them. Even if itís only a hope....getting two superstars is better where they were at prior to the trade.
Yes because the last big super start to sign with NY was .... ???

While I also admit Dallas has had it's fair share of free agency failures, there is zero denying that Porzingis is a franchise player. NY just traded their franchise player for a couple of rentals/waivers and a rookie that completely bailed on his team the week prior.

Honestly, the ONLY way that NY should be considered "winners" is if there is some serious under the table shit going on with KD and Kyrie. If there is not, they just dumped their future for absolutely nothing.

Anyway, my entire point was that Dallas and Porzingis+Luka is not even mentioned in the article of "winners and losers" yet other are saying that these 2 super stars could be the most exciting duo for the next decade. But that's not relevant.
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It's funny how some media are so obviously biased. Porzingis is without a doubt the biggest single player that got traded, yet New York is the winner and Dallas .... is not even mentioned???? WTF?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...rs/2805628002/
That's sadly the way it always has been and always will be. The Knicks and the Lakers will always be the league's marquee franchises and will always garner the most media attention, no matter how awful they are on the court. At least the Lakers actually have championships in the last 40 years to show for it. The Knicks have consistently awful since the end of the Patrick Ewing era. And as long as Dolan is the owner, they always will be dysfunctional. He'll never sell the team, and he's still only 63, so they're probably in for another 25-30 years of awfulness.

And yeah, it is hilarious that everyone seems to think this was some kind of genius move. Their genius strategy is.... clear a bunch of cap space? And then... HOPE you can lure the big stars? Isn't that what every friggin team does every summer when a lot of big name FAs are on the market? Apparently the Knicks' genius plan is to lure not one, or even two, but apparently THREE top-tier FAs. The problem with this approach of course being that in order to have any chance at luring that second or third star, you have to get the first one. And what do they have to lure the first one? Cap space??? In an era where pretty much EVERY team has cap space???

Yeah ok, they have the "glamor" of being New York or whatever, but here's my question... If you're a Kevin Durant, or Kyrie Irving, or whoever else they intend to chase this summer, why the HELL would you ever sign with the Knicks? That's a virtual guarantee to just throw away several years of your career to dysfunctional mediocrity. Take Lebron for example- Lebron has been a free agent 3 times in the last decade, and all 3 times there was never even a faint chance he might go to the Knicks. He's too damn smart. I'm betting they never even land the ONE superstar this summer, let alone two or three.

I guess they're praying that one of the big FA's just really has an affinity for New York or something. I certainly don't get that impression from Durant, Irving, or anyone else. And for that, they traded their best prospect since Ewing- and it's crazy to think that, but yes, that's exactly what Kristaps was.
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Yeah the Knicks are winner because they cleared the cap from shitty contracts they handed out. And they got the awesome young talent....that they could have drafted self.
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Itís becsuse they can now get two max players if two max players want to get to them. Even if itís only a hope....getting two superstars is better where they were at prior to the trade.
They would be in better position had they offered the Lee/Hardaway contracts and attached an unprotected first round pick. Of course the risk in that is losing Zion. However if youíre a NBA all star free agent

If you have Porzingis in the middle as your big. A 7í3 shooting guard that can anchor the paint on D. Pick and pop. Pick and roll.

Would you rather team up with KP who is a proven all star and known commodity just entering his prime at 23. Or would you sign with unknowns?

Unless they get Zion, their pitch to free agents would be far better with Porzingis, than it would be without him. If youíre Durant and Kyrie. KP, Durant, Kyrie rules the East for a while. Especially with LBJ in LA and possibly Leonard leaving the Raptors in the summer.

My gut says the Knicks messed up. They didnít take care of Porzingis, and because he was a draft pick of a previous regime - Phil Jackson - the new regime simply wants to start fresh without the old stink around. KPs bro will be an issue but I think the Mavs are much better equipped to deal with him.
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Kristaps has a really low release point, especially for a big guy; anyone know if he's started working with Holger?
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Who needs a fast release when
a) He's getting open shots from Doncic drives
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b) his release point is 7'9" off the ground. He doesn't release the ball super high, but he's also 7'3" tall. Dirk has about the same release point and has had no problem being a prolific scorer
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Well, I was just reading this article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ny-impression/

Apparently his shot was getting blocked a lot. "...despite being the NBAís tallest player, Porzingisís midrange jumpers have been blocked more often than anyone else in the league."
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Well, I was just reading this article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ny-impression/

Apparently his shot was getting blocked a lot. "...despite being the NBAís tallest player, Porzingisís midrange jumpers have been blocked more often than anyone else in the league."
So I thought, "hmm, that's surprising, but theoretically Holger Geschwindner would be the perfect person to help him with that."
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Well, I was just reading this article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ny-impression/

Apparently his shot was getting blocked a lot. "...despite being the NBAís tallest player, Porzingisís midrange jumpers have been blocked more often than anyone else in the league."
Sounds like an issue of a QB with a terrible offensive line.
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So I thought, "hmm, that's surprising, but theoretically Holger Geschwindner would be the perfect person to help him with that."
I would be ecstatic to hear to Kristaps is working with Holger with Dirk. That would be an awesome development, imo. All the unconventional methods Holger was utilizing to hone Dirk's skill, physique, and mental development were proven to be effective. I honestly think Holger's methods played a big role in keeping Dirk as healthy as he has been in his career.

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KP will have to learn draw contact if players want to jump to block his shot. Luka can help him with that.
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I hope KP can play as god as Lauri Markkanen.
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Apparently his shot was getting blocked a lot. "...despite being the NBAís tallest player, Porzingisís midrange jumpers have been blocked more often than anyone else in the league."
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I would be ecstatic to hear to Kristaps is working with Holger with Dirk. That would be an awesome development, imo. All the unconventional methods Holger was utilizing to hone Dirk's skill, physique, and mental development were proven to be effective. I honestly think Holger's methods played a big role in keeping Dirk as healthy as he has been in his career.
I thinking/hoping Dirk will take on the Holger role (and more) for this team in his retirement years.
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