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Old 02-06-2019, 10:16 PM   #1
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I didn't think we would give him away but I guess we did
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Agreed, but if he opts out, then you lose him for nothing. Doubt they do this if they didn't know for sure he would opt out.
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Success! What a great run by the front office. Justin Jackson is a niece piece and we opened up legit cap space. Kudos to Donnie
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Agreed, but if he opts out, then you lose him for nothing. Doubt they do this if they didn't know for sure he would opt out.
I think just the opposite. They wanted to get this done because they thought he might opt in. They want the cap space.
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I think just the opposite. They wanted to get this done because they thought he might opt in. They want the cap space.
Well they probably do it either way just to make sure. They got a young asset and have cap space. Wish they had gotten more, but it is what it is.

The bigger victory is the franchise understanding they needed to move on from overused and underachieving vets like Wes, DAJ, and Barnes. Can't emphasize that enough.
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Good trade for the Kings. Got Barnes for nothing. Should fit nice with the Kings.
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Well they probably do it either way just to make sure. They got a young asset and have cap space. Wish they had gotten more, but it is what it is.

The bigger victory is the franchise understanding they needed to move on from overused and underachieving vets like Wes, DAJ, and Barnes. Can't emphasize that enough.
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I think just the opposite. They wanted to get this done because they thought he might opt in. They want the cap space.
Absolutely. The Mavs probably wouldn’t have moved HB if they knew he was opting out.
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Well they probably do it either way just to make sure. They got a young asset and have cap space. Wish they had gotten more, but it is what it is.

The bigger victory is the franchise understanding they needed to move on from overused and underachieving vets like Wes, DAJ, and Barnes. Can't emphasize that enough.
Agreed. It was a necessary rebuilding move. Getting a young prospect of Jackson’s caliber was pretty much all you could ask for, to be able to gain the cap space.
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Absolutely. The Mavs probably wouldn’t have moved HB if they knew he was opting out.
They would anyway....torn ACL or another bigger injury and he is back opting in. It was just too risky. Its the difference between being a major player or no player at all.
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Good trade for the Kings. Got Barnes for nothing. Should fit nice with the Kings.
Yeah, I could see it working out for both Barnes and Sac. He didn’t look happy, but now he has the opportunity to be a veteran leader on a young exciting team where he is a much better fit.
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Do we have to cut someone again? Burke would be my guess. Or can we buyout Zach without dropping someone? I would assume they have to cut someone though for the trade to go through.
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They would anyway....torn ACL or another bigger injury and he is back opting in. It was just too risky. Its the difference between being a major player or no player at all.
I think they would have taken that risk especially to not have to take another contract back. But you could be right.
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Do we have to cut someone again? Burke would be my guess. Or can we buyout Zach without dropping someone? I would assume they have to cut someone though for the trade to go through.
Sounds like it might be Mejri, but nothing official yet.
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I think they will buy out Zach.

But would love to see a Dirk/Zach frontcourt one time
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Well they probably do it either way just to make sure. They got a young asset and have cap space. Wish they had gotten more, but it is what it is.

The bigger victory is the franchise understanding they needed to move on from overused and underachieving vets like Wes, DAJ, and Barnes. Can't emphasize that enough.
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Barnes skips talking to media in locker room. Can’t blame him. Sucks it went down like it did. I will miss the off the court Barnes and the eloquent when speaking on non b-ball issues Barnes.
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Do we have to cut someone again? Burke would be my guess. Or can we buyout Zach without dropping someone? I would assume they have to cut someone though for the trade to go through.
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Agreed, but if he opts out, then you lose him for nothing. Doubt they do this if they didn't know for sure he would opt out.

They did this move for cap space. They are looking to add around Luka and Porzingis this offseason. There is still a chance they could dump Powell’s contract too before the deadline tomorrow.

With the cap space they will have I expect them to target Nikola Vucevic this off season. If they can dump Powell’s contract they should also target Kris Middleton. Along with resigning Maxi and DFS too of course.
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Sounds like it might be Mejri, but nothing official yet.
Isn't Mejri one of Luka's friends. I think it would be Broekhoff
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Mejri is likely to see more minutes now with their front court being so thin.
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They are cutting Burke before Broekhoff
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Sounds like they're cutting Randolph.
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Yeah it will be Zach of course,

I meant they would cut Burke before Broek
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I'm actually excited to see what Jackson can provide. He can be a really good outside shooter and defender, and he's young and cheap. I remember him and UNC winning me an office bracket one year, so either way I'll always like him lol
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@BobbyMarks42: If Dallas constructs the Harrison Barnes trade by using the Wes Matthew exception, Dallas would create a $21.3M trade exception. The TE would be the largest in NBA history. The next biggest one was $17.8M created when Orlando sent Dwight Howard to the Lakers.
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They are supposedly really close.
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@BobbyMarks42: If Dallas constructs the Harrison Barnes trade by using the Wes Matthew exception, Dallas would create a $21.3M trade exception. The TE would be the largest in NBA history. The next biggest one was $17.8M created when Orlando sent Dwight Howard to the Lakers.
Holy crap. The Mavs are going to be POPULAR for a year in every trade
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No, i wrote it allready...after june 30th the exception would eat into the cap space. So if they dont use it until then they just kill it.

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Front office nailed it this season. Really digging what they are doing. Of course it's often just using the opportunities that are there, but you still have to pull it off. Also imho good analysis of what's wrong with the team and adjusting accordingly. I *assume* we all know now why we played the veterans so long for most of the season. We were probably showcasing them plain and simple. That we were still able to walk away with so many wins is just Luka magic.
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@BobbyMarks42: If Dallas constructs the Harrison Barnes trade by using the Wes Matthew exception, Dallas would create a $21.3M trade exception. The TE would be the largest in NBA history. The next biggest one was $17.8M created when Orlando sent Dwight Howard to the Lakers.
Refresher on what Orlando did with their then-record exception:










Absolutely nothing.

Most exceptions expire
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:52 AM   #37
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The bigger victory is the franchise understanding they needed to move on from overused and underachieving vets like Wes, DAJ, and Barnes. Can't emphasize that enough.
Several others have already praised you for saying this, and I want to join them.

Words simply cannot describe how refreshing and exciting it is to see the Mavs finally making smart, long-term decisions after so many years of trying to jury-rig a fringe playoff contender by overpaying middle-tier veterans. I just wish they had learned this lesson like 6-7 years ago, but hey, better late than never.
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The bigger victory is the franchise understanding they needed to move on from overused and underachieving vets like Wes, DAJ, and Barnes. Can't emphasize that enough.
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Several others have already praised you for saying this, and I want to join them.

Words simply cannot describe how refreshing and exciting it is to see the Mavs finally making smart, long-term decisions after so many years of trying to jury-rig a fringe playoff contender by overpaying middle-tier veterans. I just wish they had learned this lesson like 6-7 years ago, but hey, better late than never.
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I did not like the way The Mavericks traded Harrison Barnes. And also, I believe the Mavericks could have recieved more. Just getting Zach Randolph and Justin Jackson for Harrison seems like a joke. I wanted Harrison to be part of the Luka and KP triple threat. But that's over. The business of sports is ruthless. And that is why I love when players control their own destiny and not the owners.
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