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Old 11-18-2017, 11:07 PM   #41
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Dude just keeps on rolling with another double-double...

@Chris_Reichert: Mavericks 2-way player Johnathan Motley posted 23 points (7-17 FGs; 8-12 FTs), 11 rebounds and 3 blocks for the Legends #GLeague
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@Chris_Reichert: Mavericks 2-way player Johnathan Motley posted 23 points (7-17 FGs; 8-12 FTs), 11 rebounds and 3 blocks for the Legends #GLeague
would love for us to trade Powell and call up Motley - FOREVER!
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would love for us to trade Powell and call up Motley - FOREVER!
Powell's contract is tough to trade. My bet is on Noel being moved and Motley coming up.

Motley's hand and foot work are really advanced for a guy his age. Very impressive stuff.
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It's easy to be fooled by the stats of g league. They play slighlty above all star game level defense, but its easy to see that Motley should be getting minutes here if Powell is.
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It’s not the footwork that impresses me. It’s his tough rebounding.
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It's not the tough rebounding for me. It's his hair.
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@Chris_Reichert: Mavericks 2-way player Johnahan Motley led the Legends with 29 points (13-23 FGs; 3-7 FTs) and 10 rebounds #GLeague
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Shocker. I wonder what their timeline on bringing him up
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Right after we trade Noel, I bet.
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Right after the trade Noel, I bet.
I honestly don't know how hard it would be to beat Noel and Powell out for minutes. Motley looks more talented than both combined. Just gotta see if he can do it with the big bouys.
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I hope Motley is as good as we think he is or could be. I just know I've been caught up in those G/D league numbers before. Dwight Powell averaged 26ppg and 9.8rebs in 12 games. Motley is at 21.7ppg and 9.6rebs in 9 games. Can't say that I have watched either play g/d league games so I have no idea how the eye test for their g/d league games look/looked(Powell).
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I hope Motley is as good as we think he is or could be. I just know I've been caught up in those G/D league numbers before. Dwight Powell averaged 26ppg and 9.8rebs in 12 games. Motley is at 21.7ppg and 9.6rebs in 9 games. Can't say that I have watched either play g/d league games so I have no idea how the eye test for their g/d league games look/looked(Powell).
So the downside is the same production but with a much cheaper player 4 years younger. Not to mention the potential to be better. I like it as an UDFA. And I know you do, too, but we do have to take the G league with a grain of salt.
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I hope Motley is as good as we think he is or could be. I just know I've been caught up in those G/D league numbers before. Dwight Powell averaged 26ppg and 9.8rebs in 12 games. Motley is at 21.7ppg and 9.6rebs in 9 games. Can't say that I have watched either play g/d league games so I have no idea how the eye test for their g/d league games look/looked(Powell).
His g leaue highlights are all on youtube. The key is examining what he does well that will translate to the NBA. He is almost dead on perfect for today's center in terms of size, althetic ability, and mobility, and I think he will be a really solid backup once he gets a chance. He handles the ball well and really knows the paint. I think bigger guys might give him fits, but he seems crafty enough to get around that. Big time energy guy.
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His g leaue highlights are all on youtube. The key is examining what he does well that will translate to the NBA. He is almost dead on perfect for today's center in terms of size, althetic ability, and mobility, and I think he will be a really solid backup once he gets a chance. He handles the ball well and really knows the paint. I think bigger guys might give him fits, but he seems crafty enough to get around that. Big time energy guy.
What's interesting about him being an "energy guy" is that I remember the first few times I saw games or clips of him I was thinking "wow, this guy sort of slacks off and zones out a lot...doesn't really look all that interested." But what I came to realize is that he's actually just very efficient with his actions. He's not flying all over the court at ever second for no reason, but he will sort of lull you to sleep and then kick it into gear when he needs to.
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He's probably not gonna ever be a stretch big. He's not as quick as Powell either. He has a better post game on both ends tho. I have watched a handful of games thanks to my dvr and hes fun to watch. I think the numbers he puts up are inflated like everyone else's because the g league doesn't have teams that can represent the defense or chemistry the nba teams do.

The way Powell has stepped up lately makes it much easier to deal with him staying there until NN pans out at least and maybe he keeps gaining confidence and polishes his game. Its just hard for him to tighten up weaknesses because the opposition will never provide the types of tests the nba will.
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What's interesting about him being an "energy guy" is that I remember the first few times I saw games or clips of him I was thinking "wow, this guy sort of slacks off and zones out a lot...doesn't really look all that interested." But what I came to realize is that he's actually just very efficient with his actions. He's not flying all over the court at ever second for no reason, but he will sort of lull you to sleep and then kick it into gear when he needs to.
Well from the single g league game I actually sat through, he seems so sustain exactly what you are referring to. Yeah, he is no Kenneth Faried in terms of flying around, but he seems to have a decent BBIQ to fool people.
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Watched last night.

28-6-1

Such a different game. He rebounded hard but our team just can’t defend so they got so many layups. Not many rebounds to be had from their misses so 2/3 of his rebounds were offensive. He was also forced to play center the whole night and he’s really not one.

Didn’t show much range either. On the Mavs, Rick won’t play you at PF unless you have range. Game is very similar to Powell in that way. Same high mobility. Motley just has more post ability.
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@fishsports: BREAKING: sources tell http://DallasBasketball.com that 2-Way @TexasLegends standout @Moneymot5 Motley is being called up by @dallasmavs - going to #Mavs tomorrow. https://scout.com/nba/mavericks/Arti...ming-111880244

@ESefko: By the way, Johnathan Motley, who is expected to join Mavericks Thursday, passes the eye test in the G-League. He had 24 and 12 Wednesday.

@IsaacHarrisNBA: Reminder that Johnathan Motley was ranked 39th on the DraftExpress big board before draft. Some had him a 1st rounder.
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@mavsmoneyball: In case you forgot, Motley is still a Maverick and is still dominating down with the Legends. 24p/14r/6s/5a/3b
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@bobbykaralla: Meanwhile in Frisco Jameel Warney and Brandon Ashley combined for 60 points in a Legends win. Texas (17-11) is now first place in its division. (Motley scored 15 points.)
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Motley getting called up to Mavs, Collinsworth going to Legends.
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How many games does Motley have left on his 2 way contract? Aren't they allowed like 45 games? I'd think he would be able to move up for the rest of the season.
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I think it's 45 total days with the Mavs. Days do not accumulate when he is with the Legends.
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I think it's 45 total days with the Mavs. Days do not accumulate when he is with the Legends.
I think he's only played in 2-3 games. Not sure if it counts towards his game total if he was called up, but never entered the game. Either way he should be able to get some minutes going forward.
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How many games does Motley have left on his 2 way contract? Aren't they allowed like 45 games? I'd think he would be able to move up for the rest of the season.
It's days, not games. Big difference. I think there's a tracker online that I've seen somewhere.
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Motley has only played 2 games for us so far, but I believe he was with the team for 6 days of his 45 and two-way contracts are 45-days not 45-games.

Also, the 45 days don't count games after the G-league schedule ends at the end of March so hypothetically Motley could get called up mid/late February and stay with us for the final 22-24 games of the season. The only real question is when in February he gets the call.
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It's days, not games. Big difference. I think there's a tracker online that I've seen somewhere.
Yeah, it's days and not games played... But the only online trackers are which players are with which teams -- there isn't anything that tracks how many days a player has been active.

I think Motley has somewhere between 30-35 days left on his 2-way. Pretty sure it was 36 days left the last time he got activated, but I have no idea how many days he was actually on the Mavs roster.


EDIT: I asked Bobby Karalla on Twitter...

@bobbykaralla: Somewhere in the mid-to-high 30s
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Yeah, it's days and not games played... But the only online trackers are which players are with which teams -- there isn't anything that tracks how many days a player has been active.

I think Motley has somewhere between 30-35 days left on his 2-way. Pretty sure it was 36 days left the last time he got activated, but I have no idea how many days he was actually on the Mavs roster.


EDIT: I asked Bobby Karalla on Twitter...

@bobbykaralla: Somewhere in the mid-to-high 30s
Gotcha, I wasn't sure how detailed the tracker was. It's been puzzling why when he gets called up he doesn't get minutes, given the 45 days + our record / wtf are we doing here. =?
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@Mavs_FFL: Congrats to J Mot, the NBAGLeague Player of the Month. #MFFL

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The biggest Mavs problem:

When we finally give him minutes, do we let him beast the league even f it means wins?

Also, if he’s as good as promised, does that change our draft strategy? This is the year of the 4/5
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When we finally give him minutes, do we let him beast the league even f it means wins?

Also, if he’s as good as promised, does that change our draft strategy? This is the year of the 4/5
Well he's not gonna beast in the NBA. But if he panned out to be really solid which I think he will be... does that bump Doncic up our board?

You gotta know what he can do and how he fits but that only happens if he gets minutes. It seems pointless for him to spend any days called up that he doesn't log enough time to figure out what we have. Even tho there's a lot of time left... to leave any of his call up time on the table or to not play him enough is senseless.
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He's not going to beast? He's averaging 81points and 36rebounds per 36

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Well he's not gonna beast in the NBA. But if he panned out to be really solid which I think he will be... does that bump Doncic up our board?

You gotta know what he can do and how he fits but that only happens if he gets minutes. It seems pointless for him to spend any days called up that he doesn't log enough time to figure out what we have. Even tho there's a lot of time left... to leave any of his call up time on the table or to not play him enough is senseless.
No need for him to stay on a 45-day if roster spot opens up at the deadline -- we can offer him a full, guaranteed contract.
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No need for him to stay on a 45-day if roster spot opens up at the deadline -- we can offer him a full, guaranteed contract.
Sure IF, but it's still leaving those days on the table. We all have a damn good idea about what we have with Powell, Mejri and we know all we are going to know about Noel. It's just nature of the business that there's a chance that we end up leaving days on the table, which only bothers me because we have been so far from competing and we know what we got with the 4/5's already here. I would like to see how his game translates with our core and vs other nba talent.
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I think the FO knows Motley would have won some of these clutch games we've run into for most of these season. No, honestly it may have just been that they had a number of 4/5 guys and knew Motley would be able to run and develop in the G league with way more minutes available. Then again, you could argue the experience of being on the pro squad, with seemingly better coaching and definitely better talent to go up against in practice and games, who knows if that would have been better for his development? I'll side with the Mavs FO and coaches.
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