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Old 12-01-2017, 03:23 AM   #1
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If the Mavs could get one of them they would have a nice longterm Core of DSJ, Barnes + Bagley/Ayton.

Positions 1,3,5 Covered for the Future. Add to that massive Capspace when Wes is of the Payroll in 2 years and the Future may look bright.

I would not take Doncic, since he is playing Barnes Position and to me he has the ceiling of a slightly better Hayward which is good but not what the Mavs Need when they Count on Barnes.

Mavs Need a true Franchise Center. First they would ever have. They Need someone who can form a Great Duo with DSJ and both of Bagley and Ayton have Superstar Potential.

Right now i would go with Bagley cause he Looks to be more NBA Ready but damn Aytons Intangibles are great. Hes a massive Body with a Soft Touch. Raw, but when he is developed he Looks like Olajuwon with 3 Point Range.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:32 AM   #2
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Part of your logic is flawed. No team right now needs a "true franchise center". The center has nearly been killed off with the current league rules and enforcement. It's much better to go with the double PF or even move positions 2-4 up to 3-5 and go with a 2nd PG or SG. However, if the best player available in the draft is a C, I would still take him.

Also, I would not say Doncic and Barnes play the same position. It looks like Doncic is primarily a SG but can play up to SF. Barnes is very much in between SF and PF. There is zero reason why they can't play together and it even re-inforces the very popular "position-less basketball" we see right now on a lot of teams.

However, I'm not exactly sold on Doncic at the moment and I would still take the other guys ahead of him.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:52 AM   #3
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We are not drafting #1 and one of these guys is going to go at #1...so if we are lucky we take the other one
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Step 1: Win the lotto to draft #1.
Step 2: Draft Ayton.
Step 3: Thank Sefant for reverse jinx.
Step 4: Watch Ayton and Woodslanger shit all over the NBA.
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Step 1: Win the lotto to draft #1.
Step 2: Draft Ayton.
Step 3: Thank Sefant for reverse jinx.
Step 4: Watch Ayton and Woodslanger shit all over the NBA.
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Part of your logic is flawed. No team right now needs a "true franchise center". The center has nearly been killed off with the current league rules and enforcement. It's much better to go with the double PF or even move positions 2-4 up to 3-5 and go with a 2nd PG or SG. However, if the best player available in the draft is a C, I would still take him.
I mentioned this in another thread, but I think Ayton has the ability to "turn back the clock" on the center position. He's built like an 80s-90s center, but has the athleticism, quickness, and range of today's PF... Basically he's not going to have a problem chasing or taking guys out to the perimeter, but when it comes time to bang in the paint, most of these toothpicks around the league are going to break.

The NBA is ripe for a DeAndre Ayton takeover.

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Also, I would not say Doncic and Barnes play the same position. It looks like Doncic is primarily a SG but can play up to SF. Barnes is very much in between SF and PF. There is zero reason why they can't play together and it even re-inforces the very popular "position-less basketball" we see right now on a lot of teams.
Totally agree with you there. I know he's 6-7, but with his handles and playmaking ability he's definitely more of a SG... Which would make him an EXCELLENT fit in Rick's 3-guard lineups, since we finally wouldn't be giving up any size on the defensive end.
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It's nice to dream, but with the way the Mavs are playing now, it might be better to start digging into the potential picks at 8-13. :-(

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Yup. We'll be lucky to get the 10th pick unless we have at least 2 big injuries.

We need to be looking for bargains like Giannises, Iguodalas, Thompsons, and Leonards. We're not sniffing the top five.
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