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Old 08-28-2017, 08:13 AM   #401
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Cavs now asking for Jaylen Brown or Jayson Tatum to complete the Kyrie trade...
Say what???? Cleveland gonna Cleveland
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Well, say Cleveland gets half a season of IT and then he bolts along with Lebron. Then the trade becomes Crowder, Zizc, and Nets 1st round pick for Kyrie ... that's not a balanced trade by any stretch of the imagination.
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LOL, is Noel's agent handling this negotiation?

He might literally be.
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Cavs now asking for Jaylen Brown or Jayson Tatum to complete the Kyrie trade...
Rumor is they opened with asking for Channing but quickly backed down to another Tatum.
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Boston is sending Cleveland a 2020 second-round pick to complete the Kyrie Irving-Isaiah Thomas trade, league source tells ESPN.
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@wojespn: Milwaukee plans to waive Spencer Hawes, league sources tell ESPN. Bucks using stretch provision on his $6M salary to get under luxury tax. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...-spencer-hawes
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Not sure if this belongs here, but the Lakers were fined $500k for tampering with Paul George. Apparently the inappropriate contact was some kind of communicationation between the Lakers' GM and PG's agent.

$500k is such a meaningless fine, I would have preferred no punishment at all.
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Not sure if this belongs here, but the Lakers were fined $500k for tampering with Paul George. Apparently the inappropriate contact was some kind of communicationation between the Lakers' GM and PG's agent.

$500k is such a meaningless fine, I would have preferred no punishment at all.
Take their draft picks

and take one of Philly's too. They don't do anything despite being a perennial talent thief.
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Forbid George to sign with the Lakers in 2018. That would be the a punishment. Not some money or lame ass 2nd round picks
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Only conclusion is that its so widespread that they cant truly punish them.
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Funny, the Lakers pretty much admit that they just signed KCP to the one year deal so they are allowed to talk to Rich Paul during the season....yeah they will totally talk about KCPs future and not about Lebron.

What a Micky Mouse league
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Cle is shopping their first round pick. Here's some hypothetical. Noel, Wes, Powell, and our draft pick for TT, Shumpert, and their first round pick? If cle wants to do a salary dump.
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Cle is shopping their first round pick. Here's some hypothetical. Noel, Wes, Powell, and our draft pick for TT, Shumpert, and their first round pick? If cle wants to do a salary dump.
So Clev dumps salary and what do we get? Hard pass on that trade idea.
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So Clev dumps salary and what do we get? Hard pass on that trade idea.
Shumpert would be our starting 2 guard that's for sure. Meh, I really don't wanna get rid of Noel though.
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Yeah Shumpert is an incredible upgrade over DFS...totally worth his Shitty contract....and yeah the awesome CLE pick
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That Cleveland pick will be pretty late. Shumpert blows out his knee(again)and doesnt opt out we're stuck with him and 10m less for FA
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...d-17-18-season

Actually really like the idea of opening the draft up more. Too many teams dominate the bottom and stay there.
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It sounds like a good idea from first impression. But didn't they just change the chances in the last several years to improve the worst teams ... after Orlando got 2 #1s? If the goal is make a more balanced league, then the issue is really super teams like GSW and CLE right now. I'm not sure how big of a change this will actually make for the bottom feeder teams or even this year for all non-top-four teams. JVG was just quoted the other day of saying this year is already done, just give the GSW the trophy and lets start talking about 2019.
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Yeah it won't fix the super teams issue. I'm not even sure if legislation/policy changes can.

I think it's a good start, though. Doesn't target the top, but hopefully starts to kick the bottom teams in the butt. Nothing like tanking to get a top player and then not even having the development guys/coaching to do anything with them. They just squander the talent and either kill their careers or guys just leave for teams with actual development and coaching.
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Another idea born out of the competition committee that could gather support, league sources said: No team can pick in the top three of the draft in consecutive years. For example, if Minnesota wins the No. 1 pick and drafts Karl-Anthony Towns -- as was the case in 2015 -- it can pick no higher than No. 4 in the next lottery. For now, that idea is outside of the league office's proposal but is expected to be considered in the upcoming committee meeting, sources said.
This is the only part I care about really. The other stuff is nice little tweaks but I want this to happen, and have wanted it for some time. And it sounds like they aren't quite ready to go this far yet, which is disappointing.
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This is the only part I care about really. The other stuff is nice little tweaks but I want this to happen, and have wanted it for some time. And it sounds like they aren't quite ready to go this far yet, which is disappointing.
Yeah, the non-consective top picks is easily the best idea I've heard kicked around... I mean, you want to discourage tanking, but you also want to make it possible for bad teams to get better -- this seems to strike a decent balance.
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I don't mind draft reform if they did something about super teams as well.
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Yeah I think the NBA's 500k fine for tampering with PG13 shows just how far away that possibility is. Simply disallowing PG13 to be a Laker for a year after his free agency would have been a better penalty. Hell a 2nd round pick penalty would have been worse than a mere 500k fine. I'm with you though, I wish they would do something about it. Sadly super teams has generated a lot of revenue during the regular season though so I don't see anything happening until that changes.

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@wojespn: Free agent guard Shabazz Muhammad is finalizing a deal to return to Minnesota, league sources tell ESPN.

@wojespn: Source: @ShabazzMuhammad will sign for vet. minimum of $1.6M, and his Bird Rights restore with Minnesota next summer for longer term deal.


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@wojespn: Story on free agent Tyler Zeller, Brooklyn reaching agreement on a two-year http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...oklyn-netsdeal.
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@wojespn: Restricted free agent Mason Plumlee has agreed to a three-year, $41M deal to return to Denver, league sources tell ESPN.
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And that is why Noe thinks he's worth the big bucks
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He's not worth more than $10mm more annually than Mason Plumlee, though. He's worth right about the deal that was rumored. But we can't sweat it. If he proves his worth, he'll get paid and remain a Maverick.
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How so? Noel was offered 3.5 mil more per season for an extra year. And he isn't really that much better than Plumlee if at all. Different players though.
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How so? Noel was offered 3.5 mil more per season for an extra year. And he isn't really that much better than Plumlee if at all. Different players though.
Player one accepted 13.5 million (average) with Per 36 stats of:
14.0 pts
10.2 reb
3.2 ast
1.5blk
8.1 EWA (estimated wins added)
81 games played last season

Player two REJECTED a reported 17mill a year contract with per 36 stats of:
13.1 pts
9.8 reb
2.0 ast
2.0 blk
4.6 EWA (estimated wins added)
51 games played

Noel obviously thinks he's better than Plumlee and Plumlee got 13.5, but other than the lottery hype for Noel (that has steadily worn off), basically everything else says he should be earning equal to or less money than Plumlee (mostly injuries)
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@ShamsCharania: Free agent center Andrew Bogut has agreed to a one-year deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, agent David Bauman of ISE tells The Vertical.
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Player one accepted 13.5 million (average) with Per 36 stats of:
14.0 pts
10.2 reb
3.2 ast
1.5blk
8.1 EWA (estimated wins added)
81 games played last season

Player two REJECTED a reported 17mill a year contract with per 36 stats of:
13.1 pts
9.8 reb
2.0 ast
2.0 blk
4.6 EWA (estimated wins added)
51 games played

Noel obviously thinks he's better than Plumlee and Plumlee got 13.5, but other than the lottery hype for Noel (that has steadily worn off), basically everything else says he should be earning equal to or less money than Plumlee (mostly injuries)
Plumlee may not have the high ceiling that Noel does, but he at least plays hard every single minute he's on the court and I don't believe he's missed any games due to injuries. Until Noel actually proves himself, Plumlee is hands down the better center. Denver is making very solid changes after dumping Galinari and all of his injuries.
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Looks like Noel started a trend...

@wojespn: Story posting soon on ESPN: Phoenix's Alex Len planning to sign qualifying offer before camp, will become unrestricted free agent in 2018.
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@wojespn: Story posting soon on ESPN: Phoenix's Alex Len planning to sign qualifying offer before camp, will become unrestricted free agent in 2018.
That's actually bad news for Noel since that is a competitor next summer for your money.
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That's actually bad news for Noel since that is a competitor next summer for your money.
I see that the other way around, but true. Its still an extra body.
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That's actually bad news for Noel since that is a competitor next summer for your money.
I can honestly see the possibility of Noel going for 16-12-2.5 and signing a max contract with the Suns this summer, only to be injured and only average 4-6-1 next year for them while we grab Len for 10-13 and have him average 16-11-1.8

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