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Old 09-28-2017, 03:28 PM   #1
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Default NBA Draft Reform, All-Star Game, and Other Rule Changes

@wojespn: Sources: The NBA's draft lottery reform passed 28-1-1. Oklahoma City voted "No" and Dallas abstained. NBA needed 3/4th majority for passage.

@wojespn: Here is an ESPN graphic on how NBA Draft lottery odds change in 2019

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Old 09-28-2017, 03:55 PM   #2
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Sources: NBA passes legislation on draft lottery reform, resting healthy players in regular season

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...ealthy-players
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:21 PM   #3
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All for the resting players stuff. Not sure how much the draft reforms solve?
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All for the resting players stuff. Not sure how much the draft reforms solve?
Yeah I still only really want the multiple year penalty. All this other stuff is for the NBA's bottom line of ratings. If they really cared about teams tanking for a decade like the Sixers a whole lot more than this could have been done.
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Yeah I still only really want the multiple year penalty. All this other stuff is for the NBA's bottom line of ratings. If they really cared about teams tanking for a decade like the Sixers a whole lot more than this could have been done.
It may actually mean that the "rich" potentially get richer. Lower lottery teams, like the year that Chicago (with infinitesimal odds lolz) was gifted Rose, should benefit. Heck, we may benefit from it in 2019 or beyond as a fringe playoff team likely still. The lower lottery teams, mainly WC teams for the foreseeable future, will inevitably get lucky.
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Old 09-28-2017, 05:54 PM   #6
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All for the resting players stuff. Not sure how much the draft reforms solve?
See, I am the opposite.

The resting players rule seems like a solution looking for a problem. How will that even be enforced? How can you tell an owner that they can't rest players? What about Dirk getting the second game of every B2B off to prolong his career? Is Rick disappointing the fans in the second game? It's so hard to define and enforce that it seems like a mess and it risks the health of players.

The lottery thing I like and I think it should be even more severe. Compared to the old odds, that is relatively minor. In '93, the top team only had a 16% chance of the first pick. Now it's 25% of a first overall and 100% of a top 4. We need to balance bad teams having a chance of getting better with a chance that someone who isn't the worst of the worst rising. Right now the draft is so deterministic that there is a giant donut hole in the NBA. You can either be good or you can be terrible. Being decent or bad means you're extremely unlikely to get help or improve. Plus, the teams that are terrible tend to stay terrible. Teams can just keep drafting in the top 4 and stay terrible while diverting a lot of the talent in the league from better teams/teams more capable of developing players. That hurts everyone.
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What's going to keep a coach from placing said player on the injury report and "resting" him?
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What's going to keep a coach from placing said player on the injury report and "resting" him?
Nothing.
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I guess I'll just dump this here...

@ShamsCharania: Sources: NBA has informed teams of projected salary cap in next two offseasons: $101M for 2018-19, $108M for 2019-20, subject to change.
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I don't expect this to change anything for the Mavs because I see them actually making the playoffs this year and if they don't, they will just miss it which means their lottery chance should be in the 0.5 to 1.5 range.

I understand the reasoning behind this rule change, but my prediction is that it just keeps the bottom teams in the bottom. It may help a few middle teams and the occasional better team. And then the owners will be discussing it again in about 6-10 years and it will swing back towards what we had.

The root of the problem is that you cannot win in this league without a super star. Let's be (very) generous and say there are a legit 12-15 super stars in the league. Half your teams are already out at that point. Now, super stars are teaming up on the same team to form super teams. Of the half, now you are down to about a quarter that have legit playoff hopes. Then you get a couple of teams that have more than 2 super stars ... GSW and CLE ... now it's down to those two. Then teams have plan and hit it big at the right time of free agency, like Miami did with Wade/Bron/Bosh. This is what the LAL are hoping to do next season. Rinse, repeat.

SO, the real root of this problem is you are forced to have a super star to win in this league. Why? Because star treatment is crazy. I understand no one wants to pay $200 for tickets to see Lebron sit on the bench with fouls ... or more realistically TV executives. But until we get away from a system where Lebron and Wade just have to literally fall down and get a foul call, or "Lebron has played X games without fouling out", then you will not win without one. And now, for teams that do not have a super star, their chances just went down in getting one and even worse in keeping him.
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@MarcJSpearsESPN: 2018 NBA All-Star Captains to draft teams from players voted as starters & reserves. No more East vs West & they will be playing for charity

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Just in time for the worst Eastern Conference in years although it doesnt fix the fact that you're drafting from equal numbers of East and West coast teams even though 70% of the best players are west
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That isn't going to make people care about the all star game again.

Make the playoffs top 16, and then we will see actual reform that makes a difference.
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So it's going to be 4/5 Western Conference players... No more charity for the lower-ranked EC reserves. That's gonna affect some paydays.

On the other hand, it increases HB's chances of getting in.
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So it's going to be 4/5 Western Conference players... No more charity for the lower-ranked EC reserves. That's gonna affect some paydays.

On the other hand, it increases HB's chances of getting in.
There will still be 12 players selected from each conference for the game in Los Angeles on Feb. 18. Five players from each conference will be selected as starters, with the fan vote being worth 50 percent, player vote worth 25 percent and media vote worth 25 percent. Seven reserves for each team will be picked by each conference's head coaches.
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There will still be 12 players selected from each conference for the game in Los Angeles on Feb. 18. Five players from each conference will be selected as starters, with the fan vote being worth 50 percent, player vote worth 25 percent and media vote worth 25 percent. Seven reserves for each team will be picked by each conference's head coaches.
Oh, so we still don't get the best 24 players in the league, but we do get to divvy them up in a way that masks the EC's continued incompetence...

Meh.
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Adam Silver says that possibility of reseeding in playoffs depends on 'balanced schedule'

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...yoff-reseeding
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@espn_macmahon: Mark Cuban isn't convinced new NBA lottery rules will discourage tanking. He tried to pitch these two ideas: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...wn-suggestions
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@espn_macmahon: Mark Cuban isn't convinced new NBA lottery rules will discourage tanking. He tried to pitch these two ideas: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...wn-suggestions
Not really crazy about either of those ideas, especially the worst record automatically getting locked into the 3rd or 4th position. What's the point of having a terrible team try at the very end of the season?
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Not really crazy about either of those ideas, especially the worst record automatically getting locked into the 3rd or 4th position. What's the point of having a terrible team try at the very end of the season?
LOL, that's probably why nobody supported either of his ideas.
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