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Old 09-23-2020, 05:28 AM   #601
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He's not great, but in my book Webber is the worst.
Reggie over Webber all day every day. Cheryl too.
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Mason Plumlee making a case for being the worst player on a good team.
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Mason Plumlee making a case for being the worst player on a good team.
I was hoping they would go away from playing him after their success with him on the bench last game. He only brings size and screens.
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I think Plumlee must have incriminating photos on Malone. Why does he stick with him? They are better smaller with shooters.
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Man, this Lakers-Nuggets series has been crazy intense. 3-1 is really misleading. Murray has been absolutely jaw-dropping through the entire postseason. I can't even count how many incredible shots he made tonight that just had no business going in. He sounded completely devastated in the post-game interview. You could tell he was physically and emotionally drained and gave that game absolutely everything he had. I feel bad for the guy. But he's only 23. He's got a really bright future in the NBA.
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Man, this Lakers-Nuggets series has been crazy intense. 3-1 is really misleading. Murray has been absolutely jaw-dropping through the entire postseason. I can't even count how many incredible shots he made tonight that just had no business going in. He sounded completely devastated in the post-game interview. You could tell he was physically and emotionally drained and gave that game absolutely everything he had. I feel bad for the guy. But he's only 23. He's got a really bright future in the NBA.
Yes, the Nuggets are easy to like, and the series has been great. I think both the team and the coach are light on experience relative to their opponent, and that's the difference.
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Yes, the Nuggets are easy to like, and the series has been great. I think both the team and the coach are light on experience relative to their opponent, and that's the difference.
Experience is important, but I honestly just think it's a bad matchup for the Nuggets. The Nuggets really just have no answer for AD, whereas the Lakers have several athletic bigs they can throw at Jokic.

Incidentally, I think the finals ends up being Lakers vs Heat as it appears it will, I think the Heat will be a far tougher matchup for the Lakers than the Nuggets have been. I do pick the Lakers, but it will not be an easy series for them by any stretch. I'll be very surprised if doesn't go at least 6 games, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Heat end up winning the title.

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Also, Jokic's lack of athleticism or conditioning or whatever you want to call is finally showing up. After the game the TNT crew pointed out that Jokic has gone scoreless in the 4th quarter the past two games, probably because he's gassed. Unfortunately, I think that will probably always be a problem for him. If he doesn't have good stamina at age 25, even after losing all that weight, he's probably not going to get it later on.
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Also, Jokic's lack of athleticism or conditioning or whatever you want to call is finally showing up. After the game the TNT crew pointed out that Jokic has gone scoreless in the 4th quarter the past two games, probably because he's gassed. Unfortunately, I think that will probably always be a problem for him. If he doesn't have good stamina at age 25, even after losing all that weight, he's probably not going to get it later on.
Barkely is the only one worth listening to. Jokic was in foul trouble. He has to guard AD.
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Remember that Denver is missing Barton's 15ppg and MPJ is on his way to beasting. They will be the team to beat in the coming years.
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Murray has some incredible baskets, but I think a lot of those will soon hit the wall. He has some Luka in him, but Luka uses better footwork versus trying to always make a tough shot go in.
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Murray has some incredible baskets, but I think a lot of those will soon hit the wall. He has some Luka in him, but Luka uses better footwork versus trying to always make a tough shot go in.
And Luka makes those great plays look ridiculously easy. Murray is amazing, but makes everyone look so difficult. He won't be able to play like this for very long.
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Experience is important, but I honestly just think it's a bad matchup for the Nuggets. The Nuggets really just have no answer for AD, whereas the Lakers have several athletic bigs they can throw at Jokic.

Incidentally, I think the finals ends up being Lakers vs Heat as it appears it will, I think the Heat will be a far tougher matchup for the Lakers than the Nuggets have been. I do pick the Lakers, but it will not be an easy series for them by any stretch. I'll be very surprised if doesn't go at least 6 games, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Heat end up winning the title.
I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I just can't believe the guy with the most lethal high pick and roll combo in the NBA can't figure out how to punish Vogel for playing McGee/Howard. I also can't believe we aren't seeing more Laker possessions end with Rondo/KCP 3's.
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I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I just can't believe the guy with the most lethal high pick and roll combo in the NBA can't figure out how to punish Vogel for playing McGee/Howard. I also can't believe we aren't seeing more Laker possessions end with Rondo/KCP 3's.
KCP is shooting 39% from 3 this series. That may not be the best result for Denver. Iíve only watched some of this series, but Iíve been seeing Rondo hot his shots from midrange (but Iíll agree that they should be letting Rondo shoot all he wants especially from 3).
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Anybody else noticed that Lebron looks gassed in the 4th quarter? Think I saw a stat the other day that he was averaging like 6 points in the second half of games.
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Anybody else noticed that Lebron looks gassed in the 4th quarter? Think I saw a stat the other day that he was averaging like 6 points in the second half of games.
I was thinking that the exact same thing last night. He looked totally gassed through the second half, until the last couple of minutes, when he really got going on defense. He was constantly settling for long, contested shots, and his shots were consistently short. Couldn't break the defense at all. I mean it makes sense. The dude is going to be 36 in December. Just goes to show the Lakers really need that 3rd option so Lebron doesn't have to carry so much of the offense. Kuzma was supposed to be the guy, but he's just so inconsistent.
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I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I just can't believe the guy with the most lethal high pick and roll combo in the NBA can't figure out how to punish Vogel for playing McGee/Howard. I also can't believe we aren't seeing more Laker possessions end with Rondo/KCP 3's.
They need to be more decisive on the pnr and run some misdirects. Itís become a little predictable. Also, if they run it at the top of the key itís harder for Jokic to exploit the mismatch on his end (defenders can run at him as he back down). Iím surprised they arenít posting Jokic up more and letting him draw fouls/double teams. His great passing has been largely negated. Some of that is the Lakers are a legit good defensive team.
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Also, I maintain that Plumlee is just a space filler in this series and they’d be better served using a bigs rotation of Jokic, Grant, Millsap, Porter, Craig. And what happened to PJ Dozier?!
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They need to be more decisive on the pnr and run some misdirects. Itís become a little predictable. Also, if they run it at the top of the key itís harder for Jokic to exploit the mismatch on his end (defenders can run at him as he back down). Iím surprised they arenít posting Jokic up more and letting him draw fouls/double teams. His great passing has been largely negated. Some of that is the Lakers are a legit good defensive team.
This might be a little overly simple of a thought, but I feel like Jokic is kind of too focused on running through all of each play's progression, when he should just pull the trigger on his own jumper a little earlier in the clock at times.

I feel exactly the opposite way about Murray.
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KCP is shooting 39% from 3 this series. That may not be the best result for Denver. Iíve only watched some of this series, but Iíve been seeing Rondo hot his shots from midrange (but Iíll agree that they should be letting Rondo shoot all he wants especially from 3).
KCP and Rondo have both been hitting shots. But, I'm telling you, if I'm coaching a team playing them in a seven game series, I double off of those dudes on every possession and live with the results. They flatly aren't up to it, no matter how lucky they've been recently. If they beat me, they beat me, but I'm not letting Davis/Lebron operate as if they have Duncan Robinson (or even DFS and THJ) on their team.

Rondo would have to shoot 40% on like 12 three point attempts per game to beat me, and I'll take that bet anytime it's available.
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espn NBA coverage sucks...
I wish they would spend at least 5 min breaking down the game and provide
some analysis as to what a team could adjust coming out of the half...
During a 13 minute 30 second half-time break during MIA-BOS Game 5,*ESPN spent 10 minutes 30 seconds on ads.
The breakdown of the half-time break went, Ī a few seconds for each segment, as follows:
2 minutes - ads
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Denver gets momentum. Dwight flops and refs call the foul. Completely transparent.
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Jerami Grant might be the most underrated player in the league. He's carried the Nuggets all night.
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Did Millsap purposely choose his slogan so that his jersey would say Vote 4 Millsap?
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HOLY SHIT LEBRON!

Okay, Lebron is still the best player in the league. The argument is over.
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Damn, Murray has tears in his eyes. Played most of the second half on one leg. Gotta love his passion and grit.

What a great season for the Nuggets.
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This might not go down as one of Lebron's iconic, career-defining games, but I feel like it should.

38 pts 16 reb 10 ast 15-25 FG.

As sick as that stat line is, it doesn't do justice to his actual performance, because he just caught fire late in the fourth right as the Nuggets were threatening to steal the game. He hit like four or five tough shots in a row and just put his foot on the Nuggets' throats.
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Celtics throwing up bricks in the 4th. Looking like a Heat/Lakers finals. Too bad because I would have liked the Celtics/Lakers storyline better.
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Kemba came up small. Brad Stevens declines to use a challenge on a couple of questionable foul calls. Welp, Iíll save a lot of time not watching the two tampering franchises face off. Wonít watch a second.
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Celtics throwing up bricks in the 4th. Looking like a Heat/Lakers finals. Too bad because I would have liked the Celtics/Lakers storyline better.
Seriously. I was rooting for the Celtics hard, for no other reason than to have a Celtics Lakers finals.

It was a great game until about half way through the 4th, and the Celtics just wilted. Miami's just a little bit better and mentally tougher. It will be interesting to see how the Celtics respond to this next season. It seems like they're just perpetually on the cusp of being great, but they can't quite get over the hump. It feels like we've been saying that for like 4 years now. They need some more depth, but most importantly, they need Tatum to live up to his superstar potential.

Heat Lakers will be a really interesting matchup. I do pick the Lakers, but I think Miami is going to be incredibly tough for them. Miami is just so deep, and they have so many shooters. Lakers have the best 1 and 2 by far, but the Heat have a far better 3-9.

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