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Old 01-23-2019, 01:19 PM   #401
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Lodge 49 on AMC (well, Hulu for me) was a surprisingly weird and delightful show.
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Thanks Erica...may have to check that out. I'm not familiar with most the cast which is a good thing...
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Has any show dropped off in writing and quality the way that Game of Thrones has the past two seasons?
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Has any show dropped off in writing and quality the way that Game of Thrones has the past two seasons?
I was talking about that a couple of days ago. The last season and a half have been so poorly written... The show is now basically akin to a Michael Bay Transformers movie... Yeah, it's still entertaining, but check your brain at the door.
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Has any show dropped off in writing and quality the way that Game of Thrones has the past two seasons?
It's been subpar in 7 and 8, but most of it I could forgive.

The last episode...4...flushed the entire show down the toilet. I really never knew it could be that terrible. The writers should be banned from ever writing again. That's how bad it was.
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They realize they had a cash cow and put it on cruise control while working to develop future series...
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*SPOILERS*


GOT writers: Let's create a different female character that breaks chains, frees slaves, and sees the good in people for 6 seasons. One that will transcend any character we've seen before.

GOT writers: Well we did that...now let's make her a maniac and murder everyone. Genius.

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D&D again showing they have ZERO talent after they ran out of books...

Turned the whole stuff in some Michael Bay Bullshit, all about action and optics
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Turned the whole stuff in some Michael Bay Bullshit, all about action and optics
Agreed. This season has not been good at all. Itís all visual effects.
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I'm fine with a visual effects shift if they stay true to the characters, but they've gone against what so many were built up for 6 seasons. Tyrion being the worst. None of them are genuine character arcs that I just "disagree" with either. It's all lazy writing.
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I'm fine with a visual effects shift if they stay true to the characters, but they've gone against what so many were built up for 6 seasons. Tyrion being the worst. None of them are genuine character arcs that I just "disagree" with either. It's all lazy writing.
Oh I agree. I have no problem with the visual effects. Writing has been trash. Viewers donít want it to end. Nor does the media or HBO. Only the showrunners appear to be done with it. In the process they donít seem to mind diminishing so many major story lines or destroying small ones.
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*SPOILERS*


GOT writers: Let's create a different female character that breaks chains, frees slaves, and sees the good in people for 6 seasons. One that will transcend any character we've seen before.

GOT writers: Well we did that...now let's make her a maniac and murder everyone. Genius.

Queue toilet flush.
@OMaddy2593: Bran’s Vision In season 4 of a Dragon flying over Kings Landing

Daenerys’ vision of her in the Red Keep In season 2

I don’t see how y’all shocked that Dany sacked the city



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@OMaddy2593: Branís Vision In season 4 of a Dragon flying over Kings Landing

Daenerysí vision of her in the Red Keep In season 2

I donít see how yíall shocked that Dany sacked the city



Remember when Luke entered the cave and saw that he became Darth Vader? Did he become Darth Vader? No because the writing wasn't terrible.

They rub Dany and the possibility of her becoming her father throughout the entire series. The entire idea would be that she is something different. Her becoming the mad queen just erases seasons of build up because they want to get the show over with. And even if they wanted to go that ridiculously obvious direction, then they should handled it a lot better.
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They rub Dany and the possibility of her becoming her father throughout the entire series. The entire idea would be that she is something different.
Which show were you watching?


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I don't have a problem with the Dany arc. I do have a problem with much of the writing though..

I thought all of the main characters surviving battling against the White Walkers in Winterfell was silly. I like Arya's heroics, but, again, thought it was portrayed in the a silly manner. The young girl that killed the dead giant.. The giant wouldn't have held her up and looked at her..she would have been swatted away like a fly and killed or she would have just been squished. Dany losing a dragon from being shot down... Ever since Snow was rescued when surrounded north of the wall last season, I've just felt that the writing had been taking too many liberties to make things look cool. I don't have a problem with Dany going crazy. She's always seemed a bit on the edge to me.
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That was how many season ago? She grew up and just last season said "I am not here to be the queen of ashes."

Here the Ringer explains it pretty well...https://www.theringer.com/game-of-th...de-5-mad-queen
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I can't even begin to express my disappointment in seasons 7 & 8 of GoT. I don't know if it's time or money constraints but the underlying issue is the writers/ HBO have rushed the show resulting in clunky writing more interested in resolution than depth and nuance. Characters are unrecognizable. The show went from smart to stupid quicker than any show in recent history.
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That was how many season ago? She grew up and just last season said "I am not here to be the queen of ashes."
She was parroting Tyrion's exact words when she said that -- right after he talked her out of torching King's Landing... But then she lost faith in Tyrion. And Jorah died. Then Missandei. And Varys betrayed her... So basically everyone whose guidance had kept her from going full Mad Queen in Essos was lost to her in Westeros... With no nurture, she fell back on her nature -- and her nature is blood & fire, as she has pointed out all throughout this series.
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Don't attack me, but I actually like season 8 so far.

Season 7 was unbelievably stupid. It seems like they needed to develop characters in season 7 so they could pay them off in season 8, but instead just stood there doing jazz hands for an entire season instead. My only complaint about season 8 is how sudden and rushed it feels and I think a lot of that has to do with how they didn't continue laying a foundation for it in season 7
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I've said this many times... Somewhere along the way (I believe in season 7), the show went from being a well crafted drama to turning into an entertaining but dumb Michael Bay movie. No, the series wasn't rushed. I also believe that too many involved were busy trying to turn their GoT success into their next big project instead of actually finishing out the series at a high level.
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She was parroting Tyrion's exact words when she said that -- right after he talked her out of torching King's Landing... But then she lost faith in Tyrion. And Jorah died. Then Missandei. And Varys betrayed her... So basically everyone whose guidance had kept her from going full Mad Queen in Essos was lost to her in Westeros... With no nurture, she fell back on her nature -- and her nature is blood & fire, as she has pointed out all throughout this series.
I can easily pull many more examples of how she had changed as a character like her telling Yara she can no longer rape or pillage. The simply fact is there was very little motivation from the giant massacre. She's always been vengeful against her enemies but not against innocent civilians. And she could have just done it all last season with a single dragon.

To be fair, the show isn't terrible now just because of her though. They've poorly mismanaged Jamie, Tyrion, Jon, etc.
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Can't find a better explanation to why so many are upset over mad Dany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mlNyqhnc1M
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