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I was talking about Cubes. Joking mainly.
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Ok, great - which camp are you in?

Do you think "we'll contend in 2-3 years" is how the Mavs will pitch Jordan?
I would rather go Aldridge/Tyson, but Jordan would be great.

I'm sure a major part of the pitch will be to show him the plans they have to put them in contention over the course of his four year contract.
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SUNDAY 9:25pm: The Bucks are “a long shot” to land Jordan and it is unlikely they meet with him, reports Sam Amick of USA Today, who cites a person with knowledge of the Bucks’ situation.

Amick tweets that there is some sense from the Clippers’ side that the Mavs have a slight edge in the Jordan sweepstakes, but the upcoming meetings hold weight.

While sources indicate to Gery Woelfel of the Racine Journal Times that Jordan will either stay with the Clippers or go to Dallas, an acquaintance of Jordan claims the big man would love to play for the Rockets. Houston, of course, already has a quality center in Dwight Howard.

7:08pm: Jordan will also meet with the Knicks once the free agent negotiating period commences, Adam Zagoria of SNY.tv reports.

1:11pm: The Clippers and Mavs remain the front-runners for Jordan, a source tells Bleacher Report’s Jared Zwerling, who suggests that the Knicks might end up meeting with the Relativity Sports client, too.

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I think we can contend if we find a consistent identity. For example, let's say we land Deandre Jordan and Pat Beverly (the two guys CP has been courting the hardest). Bev - Anderson - CP - Dirk - DJ could come together as a defensive force. At first glance scoring seems hard to come by, but I think it's realistic to think CP & DJ take significant strides with bigger roles. DJ especially, considering he won't have Blake taking up space in the lane in Dallas.

An identity is something we've lacked for a while. Let's establish it this year, and continue to think long-term and add young pieces year in and year out. It will pay off.
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Well, due to his age and status, you might be right about that, but I think that mentality is selling TY short a little, personally.
Well, Dirk's age was a big factor in Howard choosing Harden/Houston over us, so you gotta figure that Tyson's age is too... Not that I don't love the guy, but at best you're probably only getting 2-3 productive years out of Chandler, which means you'd have to find his replacement around the same time this squad starts hitting their stride.

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You need to stay the hell away from those crazies on Fish's site -- it's like a virtual Jonestown for Mavs fans, and everyone is drinking the Kool-Aide!
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And, based on what I've read on the entire interwebs - not just here - I'd say there's a lot of folks equating a Jordan signing with instant contention. I don't think that's in any way accurate.
Would you mind re-posting those around here that say we'd be a contender if we got Jordan? I haven't seen it myself.
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Would you mind re-posting those around here that say we'd be a contender if we got Jordan? I haven't seen it myself.
Nah, if you're saying nobody here believes that, then fine. I like reading/posting here, but not enough to re-read hundreds of posts. Seems like kind of an odd, defensive request, really. I certainly didn't mean to give offense. Just making a point.
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Well, Dirk's age was a big factor in Howard choosing Harden/Houston over us, so you gotta figure that Tyson's age is too... Not that I don't love the guy, but at best you're probably only getting 2-3 productive years out of Chandler, which means you'd have to find his replacement around the same time this squad starts hitting their stride
This is a valid point.

I guess I just can't get past the feeling that targeting Jordan is putting the cart before the horse. Still, if he's the guy they want, I hope they get him. Scoring a name like that would certainly boost their image in the short term.
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Funny to see that pretty much every Clippers fan expect that the worst case is a S&T with Chandler ignoring the fact that the Mavs have nothing to gain from it except doing Tyson a favor but helping a potential playoff opponent...
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Funny to see that pretty much every Clippers fan expect that the worst case is a S&T with Chandler ignoring the fact that the Mavs have nothing to gain from it except doing Tyson a favor but helping a potential playoff opponent...
There are scenarios where SnT could make sense I believe.
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Funny to see that pretty much every Clippers fan expect that the worst case is a S&T with Chandler ignoring the fact that the Mavs have nothing to gain from it except doing Tyson a favor but helping a potential playoff opponent...
I wouldn't say that at all. The Mavs are obviously DESPERATE to rid themselves of the Raymond Felton money, and offering TY to LAC might be the best way to do that.

According to DLord, there are other ways in which a SNT scenario could benefit the Mavs financially, too, even with an under the cap approach, which seems to be the most likely, imo.

If Jordan picks Dallas, I think a TY/Felton SNT is pretty likely.
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There are scenarios where SnT could make sense I believe.
S&T is just straight up DJ-Tyson possible. You cant pack Tyson and Felton together in this S&T. The Clippers also dont have a TE

The only way we are doing this is when the Clippers find a way (TE, another three-team trade) to take Felton too. Or give us Redick for Felton...

Just as a favor for Tyson alone? Not happening

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The only way we are doing this is when the Clippers find a way (TE, another three-team trade) to take Felton too. Or give us Redick for Felton...
I agree with this - the Mavs won't just gift the Clippers TY out of the goodness in their hearts. However, in the event that Jordan picks Dallas, I think TY represents the only plausible way the Clippers don't fall off, so I feel like they'll be motivated to make it worthwhile for everyone.
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MONDAY, 1:15pm: The Clippers have a slight edge, a league source tells Ken Berger of CBSSports.com (Twitter link), which runs counter to what Amick said the Clippers believe.
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@ArashMarkazi: Clippers always felt it would come down to them and the Mavs for DeAndre Jordan. They're still cautiously optimistic that he will re-sign.
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Man I bet if Aldridge just decides to team up in Dallas. Jordan is a lock.
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‏@latbbolch: League source says it's likely that LaMarcus Aldridge is domino that falls first before DeAndre Jordan, who will decide between Clips/Mavs.
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But err... who on the mavs roster is adept at throwing Jordan alley-oops a-la cp3? Or can he really be effective on offense without it?
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S&T is just straight up DJ-Tyson possible. You cant pack Tyson and Felton together in this S&T. The Clippers also dont have a TE

The only way we are doing this is when the Clippers find a way (TE, another three-team trade) to take Felton too. Or give us Redick for Felton...

Just as a favor for Tyson alone? Not happening
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We only have 5 out of 15 roster spots filled... Maybe wait until we have more before you ask the question?
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I dont like it because its an playoff opponent. Getting eliminated by the Clippers with Tyson would make them look pretty stupid.

Its not for the respect for Tyson, i think they made an agreement with Tyson. Tyson doesnt search other teams (Lakers) or signs somewhere else before Jordans decision. If Jordan comes, they do the S&T...if Jordan stays they re-sign Chandler.

win-win. Tyson knows he will play for Clippers or Mavs on a nice contract and Mavs dont have to fear to lose Jordan AND Tyson.
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Im pretty sure this little dude with the hot wife is back via mMLE.

Pick&Pop with Dirk and then driving to the lane with Jordan waiting for the lob..sounds tasty.
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S&T is just straight up DJ-Tyson possible. You cant pack Tyson and Felton together in this S&T. The Clippers also dont have a TE

The only way we are doing this is when the Clippers find a way (TE, another three-team trade) to take Felton too. Or give us Redick for Felton...

Just as a favor for Tyson alone? Not happening

Saw Fish still tweeting about the possibility of Tyson + Felton package in a S&T. Does he know something we don't, or the other way around...?
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I was watching this game. I rewound over and over and over...
What were the circumstances...seems crazy.
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I wonder if being able to practice with Holger plays into our chances of landing Jordan? I know I'd certainly want him to if we signed him...
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Well, he got mixed up with shot clock and game clock...happens.

Its not as embarassing as every single heliflopter..

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Well, he got mixed up with shot clock and game clock...happens.

Its not as embarassing as every single heliflopter..
Ok, for just a second, assume that I'm dumb and don't know what a "heliflopter" is...
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Ok, for just a second, assume that I'm dumb and don't know what a "heliflopter" is...


If you need more examples just go to youtube and type "James Harden" and you should see plenty.

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Ha...thanks. I'm familiar with the act - now I know the name.
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