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Old 06-15-2019, 05:49 PM   #1401
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Kemba Walker will be a top target in free agency for the Lakers after they reached an agreement in principle to trade for Anthony Davis, according to league sources

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Old 06-15-2019, 05:56 PM   #1402
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That trade gets the whole FA situation in motion now.
All of the sudden the Lakers have become extremely attractive.
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If im Kemba i just sign in LA with a no trade clause.

everyone knows Lebron would trade Kembas ass again if he could trade him for a buddy etc
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Yeah, we can probably forget about Walker unless Kawhi has interest in the Lakers now.
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Damn really was hoping for Kemba...solid dude. If Im him, I go straight to LA though. Lebron/AD/Kemba gets you to the WCF barring injury now that GS is out of the picture.

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Atlanta might look to swap their 3 firsts for #4. Damn. What a haul.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:38 PM   #1407
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Damn really was hoping for Kemba...solid dude. If Im him, I go straight to LA though. Lebron/AD/Kemba gets you to the WCF barring injury now that GS is out of the picture.


35y old Lebron with his first major injury and Glass man Davis.

If im Kemba, i sign with the Mavs
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As if KP isn’t the definition of Glassman....
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35y old Lebron with his first major injury and Glass man Davis.

If im Kemba, i sign with the Mavs
The team that is currently at the top of vegas odds to win the title. Interesting.
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With AD trade Kemba is off the board as well. There is no good reason for him to pick Dallas over Lakers now.
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As if KP isn’t the definition of Glassman....
KP got hurt in this 3rd season.

Davis played 7 seasons, in 2 of them he missed 7 games each. In the other five seasons he missed around 19 of 82 games.

He also pretty much has to go to the lockerroom in every second game.

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Old 06-15-2019, 07:08 PM   #1412
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With AD trade Kemba is off the board as well. There is no good reason for him to pick Dallas over Lakers now.
I know it isnít sexy, but Kemba was never the best path forward for us. We need to be agile moving forward, let our two centerpieces develop, and compete in the meantime.

Give Luka and KP 2 years together, 100 wins, and some playoff experience, and Dallas will have commanding power in FA for a much better superstar fit than Kemba.
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With AD trade Kemba is off the board as well. There is no good reason for him to pick Dallas over Lakers now.
Kemba is a super down to earth guy.

I could see him picking us over being the Klutch waterboy in LA...
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I know it isn’t sexy, but Kemba was never the best path forward for us. We need to be agile moving forward, let our two centerpieces develop, and compete in the meantime.

Give Luka and KP 2 years together, 100 wins, and some playoff experience, and Dallas will have commanding power in FA for a much better superstar fit than Kemba.
Clippers sign Kawhi + x
Lakers sign Kemba or Irving
Kings sign Vuce

And there you have the bloodbath west where Luka and KP is maybe not enough for 50 wins and/or playoffs.

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Kemba is a super down to earth guy.

I could see him picking us over being the Klutch waterboy in LA...
You can be down to earth and still want to compete for titles when you havent sniffed winning as a 30 year old PG. LOL at constantly hating on Lebron and LA.
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Just don't overpay 3rd or 4th options as 1st options. I'm liking more and more the idea of value vet guys because it feels like you can pencil in Kemba or Kyrie or maybe Butler or something to LA at this point. Feels like another year we are gonna be at the alter and all the pretty girls will be taken.

Honestly I don't care about the Lebron part of this because win or lose it doesn't change my mind on where he sits all time(3rd to 5th). I just thought Rich Paul AD and Lebron took the tampering a bit too far last year. It happens in the NBA and you can't really stop it. But those articles and shit didn't leak themselves. We all knew AD was LA bound unless the Pels decided to flip him a massive bird and sit him on the bench to the detriment of the team long term.

For the Pels if they can move Lonzo for anything of value I'd call this a huge win. That kid's family is toxic though and he's frankly shown me nothing as a player that I'd want in today's NBA.

The Lakers... Well I don't like Laker fans. I've enjoyed them sucking and being a joke for a while now. I guess they are finally relevant again. Which means the internet just got a whole lot more trollish.
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You can be down to earth and still want to compete for titles when you havent sniffed winning as a 30 year old PG. LOL at constantly hating on Lebron and LA.
Im not hating on Lebron, im hating on Lebrons age and ADs health.

During Kembas four contract this is Lebrons age during the playoffs:
35.5
36.5
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38.5

Last season Lebron had his first big injury and missed almost 30 games. 35-36 is the age where your legs finally fly off. You saw it with Dirk, Pau, KG etc. Lebron is special but father time is undefeated. He is going to decline...

Davis played seven season in the NBA, in the RS he played this number of games:
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So yeah, i dont see the Lakers as clear cut better when it comes to Kemba trying to have some playoff sucess in the four years...

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For the Pels if they can move Lonzo for anything of value I'd call this a huge win. That kid's family is toxic though and he's frankly shown me nothing as a player that I'd want in today's NBA.
One of those LA picks was probably requested by the Pels to take on Ball.
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I have wanted Brogdon all along and with the way things are shaping up, we should go hard after him. And then perhaps get a forward or center that fits the team if we can’t get Vucevic or somehow trade for Capela.
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Honestly, I think Los Angeles Lakers have become a huge distraction for players for a lot of reasons. I don't think the current mess ends just because Davis joined the team.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the Clippers be the LA team to beat by 2020-2021. Front Offices matter. Coaches matter. The Clippers are better equipped in this area now than the Lakers.
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No one is trading for Lonzo when they can get a high quality Lonzo without a crazy dad attached. That Lonzo is named Rubio.
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Players matter more than front offices and coaches by like, a huge amount.

Details of the picks New Orleans got:

The Pelicans will get the following picks from the Lakers, league sources tell ESPN:

No. 4 pick in 2019
Top-8 protected in 2021, becomes unprotected in ‘22
Unprotected swap in ‘23
Unprotected first in ‘24
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I'm fine with Kemba not coming here even though he was one of the few obtainable big time targets. Fit just isn't there, and I think we'll look back on it knowing that.

Mavs need more assets though and hopefully can still get some big time talent in FA.
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It was Kawhi and who else? You need a real team around Luka & KP, no softies, but real bullies.
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Im not hating on Lebron, im hating on Lebrons age and ADs health.

During Kembas four contract this is Lebrons age during the playoffs:
35.5
36.5
37.5
38.5

Last season Lebron had his first big injury and missed almost 30 games. 35-36 is the age where your legs finally fly off. You saw it with Dirk, Pau, KG etc. Lebron is special but father time is undefeated. He is going to decline...

Davis played seven season in the NBA, in the RS he played this number of games:
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So yeah, i dont see the Lakers as clear cut better then it comes to Kemba trying to have some playoff sucess in the four years...
Difference is they are proven players. We think we know what we have in Luka/KP, but they havent proven what Bron and AD have. I would definitively say the next two seasons Bron/AD/Kemba would accomplish more than Luka/KP/Kemba. People forget AD is a top 5-6 player because of what happened.
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I have wanted Brogdon all along and with the way things are shaping up, we should go hard after him. And then perhaps get a forward or center that fits the team if we canít get Vucevic or somehow trade for Capela.
They will match anything that isnt max, and still may do that. Giannis isnt owed yet.
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I am ready for the Mavericks to sweep the Lakers next season in both the regular season and the playoffs. Mavs are going to hit it big this offseason!
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Best case scenario (for the Mavs and the NBA) is Kemba stays, Kawhi stays, Klay stays, KD goes East.

But seriously, f*** the Lakers, f*** Lebron, f*** Rich Paul, and f*** the Lakers again. I hope this trade goes down in history like the Nets trade for KG and Pierce.
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What are the thoughts around here in DíAngelo Russell?

Admittedly, most of my perspective is shaped by his game in LA. Does his recent spike make sense and translate to other environments? Can he maintain a 37%+ shot from 3 or will he regress back?
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I feel the same about him as I did Kemba -- we have way too many needs to be throwing a chunk of our cap at another ball-dominant guard... But unlike Kemba, I don't think Russell plays off the ball as well, nor does he maintain the same trade value once our version of the Harden/CP3 experiment fails.
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I feel the same about him as I did Kemba -- we have way too many needs to be throwing a chunk of our cap at another ball-dominant guard... But unlike Kemba, I don't think Russell plays off the ball as well, nor does he maintain the same trade value once our version of the Harden/CP3 experiment fails.
I agree. He certainly isnít the leader nor as consistent as Kemba.

The upside and difference between the two for me is A. His age and B. His length.

The negative is the danger of him not progressing and/or taking steps back. Can his game translate to our system?
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Old 06-16-2019, 10:28 AM   #1434
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Regardless of Russell's skill set, I don't think Carlisle is interested in pairing his immaturity with two young players with star potential. Too much risk. (see: Kidd, Mashburn, Jackson)
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Interesting development in the Kemba sweepstakes because Lakers most likely won't have a max slot.
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A little context for those who donít live on Twitter...


@TylerAtoms: Woj just reported on ESPN since the trade for AD will be processed on July 6th, the Lakers WILL NOT have enough cap space for a max FA on July 1.

@TylerAtoms: Woj said they have about $23.7M in space after the trades are processed. If they waited till July 30 like Lakers wanted to, they wouldíve had $34M.

@AlbertNahmad: If executed 7/6, LAL can get $27.7M cap room if AD waives $4.1M trade bonus; enough for 25% max (e.g. DLo).

If executed after 7/30, LAL can get $32.5M cap room (and AD could keep his bonus); 30% max range (e.g., Kemba, Kawhi, etc).

@TylerAtoms: Bobby Marks on now. Saying Davis IS NOT waiving $4M trade bonus. Lakers OUT of running for Kemba Walker and Kyrie Irving
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I think that was a final power move of the Pelicans to avoid a 3rd star in LA. They are going to look to be back in the playoff race in two years and its a huge difference if 36-37y old Lebron plays there with one or two stars...

And the Lakers picks are going to be better if the Lakers wont grab a 3rd star

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I think that was a final power move of the Pelicans to avoid a 3rd star in LA. They are going to look to be back in the playoff race in two years and its a huge difference if 36-37y old Lebron plays there with one or two stars...
David Griffin is a GM, whereas Rob Pelinka and Rich Paul are two guys pretending to be GMs... Knowing the rules makes a difference.
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Remember TMac calling out Fish as well? The fact that Ben and Fish both work for 105.3 AND he still calls out Fish says a lot.

The fact that they're arguing over something so dumb means FA needs to come and go already. There is nothing left to discuss. We've murdered every fit and possibility to death.
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I'm sure the Lakers could create a max slot if they got a commitment. Don't see this as big news.
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