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Fuck Trump, but this doesn’t even make sense.

It makes complete sense.

$400 million in personally guaranteed loans that are due in the next 4 years and we don’t know who the lenders are?

Putin -> Russian Oligarchs -> Russian Banks -> Deutsche Bank -> Trump


Why won’t he disavow the Proud Boys and other white nationalists? Because he relies on their support in key states.
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It makes complete sense.

$400 million in personally guaranteed loans that are due in the next 4 years and we donít know who the lenders are?

Putin -> Russian Oligarchs -> Russian Banks -> Deutsche Bank -> Trump


Why wonít he disavow the Proud Boys and other white nationalists? Because he relies on their support in key states.
Gotcha. I was having trouble squaring far right nationalism with foreign influence in a general sense.

Most people have no idea who the Proud Boys even are, and they weren't around in 2016 (barely anyway). Not saying Trump is ignorant of them, but not sure he really needs them. Much like the left wing section of the Dem party, where else are they going to go?
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Watch Trump have no Covid symptoms and all of his followers will be like, "SEE, told ya it was a hoax!"
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I don't believe that he has Covid. Dude has lied about everything and his campaign is suffering. Seems like a stunt to me
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I don't believe that he has Covid. Dude has lied about everything and his campaign is suffering. Seems like a stunt to me
I doubt such a stunt would work though considering Covid is the very reason he presidency has tanked.

All he had to do was act like a statesman for 5 minutes in a debate, and he'd be back in it. Really don't think he can.
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I doubt such a stunt would work though considering Covid is the very reason he presidency has tanked.

All he had to do was act like a statesman for 5 minutes in a debate, and he'd be back in it. Really don't think he can.
His numbers are 2% higher than they were when Covid hit. I don't think his Covid response has any appreciable impact on his base's support of him.

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His numbers are 2% higher than they were when Covid hit. I don't think his Covid response has any appreciable impact on his base's support of him.

Political polls means very little. Thought most people learned that from 2016 when Hillary had a 90% chance of winning the election. And his base will support him no matter what. The undecideds however are the ones who determine elections.

Trump would run away with the election had it not been for covid. And of course, he still might win sadly.
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Political polls means very little. Thought most people learned that from 2016 when Hillary had a 90% chance of winning the election. And his base will support him no matter what. The undecideds however are the ones who determine elections.

Trump would run away with the election had it not been for covid. And of course, he still might win sadly.
I mean I'm looking at both likely voters and overall approval, but you're right. There is a zero percent chance that he wins popular vote (if all polls were accurate he'd lose by between 5-10million votes), but the chance that Trump repeats is probably 50-50 because of the electoral votes.

That's why this election feels awful. There's a good chance that Trump will win the election after losing by 8 million votes and even if he loses, he may refuse to step down and will attempt a coup or at least a tantrum.

Democracy is definitely dying.
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Welp, Michael Moore wholeheartedly agrees with you in his new emergency podcast. And I'm not saying that Trump isn't the biggest liar on the planet.

But I still don't think "catching" Covid is the way to do it. Trump needs desperately to avoid Covid talk at all costs even if the polls don't reflect it. It's still an insanely negative topic and tragedy under his watch that he still isn't doing anything about.
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So Gov. Abbott pulling off nice voter subpression. And i thought Ted Cruz is the biggest ass in the state...

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I hope he doesn't die but only because he deserves to die in prison.
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Perhaps all of these high profile Republicans are "getting" Covid to scare people into not showing up to vote?
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In September, 44 percent of Republicans and 41 percent of Democrats said there would be at least ďa littleĒ justification for violence if the other partyís nominee wins the election. Those figures are both up from June, when 35 percent of Republicans and 37 percent of Democrats expressed the same sentiment.

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Militia groups trying to kidnap a governor but are too stupid to do so? If that isn't Trump's America in a nutshell, then I don't know what is.
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Literally a sign at the Michigan rally



We've known this since the 1400s
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We've known this since the 1400s
Maybe he means the Latin definition of virus ďpoison, sap of plants, slimy liquid, a potent juice.Ē I wonder what his thoughts are on aids and ďthe gaysĒ

The cringiest part of the sign is the use of a hashtag. Now we can click on it and find all the other signs containing scientific facts.
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I saw the cheaters tried to get 100K votes thrown out in Texas. DENIED!
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Your entire election process is worse than in a lot of shithole countries.
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Maybe for some of the republicans here...

https://twitter.com/maxjoseph/status...87900054675456
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Is it normal for a president to say that they'll declare victory before the votes are even fully counted?
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Yes but its mostly dictators who also undermined a democratic election process
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Four years you're still surprised by this stuff?
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Lol. The Dems forced their worst candidate upon us. This shit was predictable. I predicted it earlier in this thread, and Iím retarded. Biden could still win, but Trump was trying to lose.
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Lol. The Dems forced their worst candidate upon us. This shit was predictable. I predicted it earlier in this thread, and I’m retarded. Biden could still win, but Trump was trying to lose.
People don't tend to vote for candidates they aren't excited for. If Trump wins, then at least we can get rid of the center of the Democratic party as they have failed miserably. Karma is a b after what they did to Bernie...

But the media in this country is also such a joke that I don't know how any of the big papers survive either other than constant Covid fear news. Weeks of Biden is up by 8 points dog shit which any sane person knew was wrong. Name one legit outlet that said Trump was going to win? You know what that does? It has a serious reverse effect.

And lastly, we're just a country full of really, really dumb people. Honestly, I don't even care who wins. This country gets what it deserves. Bernie is the guy we needed but not the one we deserved.
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Fuck me this is disheartening. Canít believe this is my country. Canít believe people canít or wonít see Trump for what he is. My wife is pregnant and Iím legit scared to bring a brown baby into what I now know to be clearly a white manís world.
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So Trump is calling to stop counting early ballots-- people who voted weeks and months ago

However, if the election was called now
1) Trump loses the popular vote by almost 2 million
2) Trump loses the electoral college of all called states (238-213)
3) Trump loses the electoral college of states currently being counted (270-267)

Also NYT is giving GA and PA a 60%+ chance of flipping and going Biden by the end of the count because of where the ballots that need to be counted are.
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congratulations on expecting a baby! all the same i can't begin to imagine the fear you're expressing... what should be a time full of joy and hope is intermingled with concern that goes beyond what should be normal for a parent. take care brother
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So Trump is calling to stop counting early ballots-- people who voted weeks and months ago

However, if the election was called now
1) Trump loses the popular vote by almost 2 million
2) Trump loses the electoral college of all called states (238-213)
3) Trump loses the electoral college of states currently being counted (270-267)

Also NYT is giving GA and PA a 60%+ chance of flipping and going Biden by the end of the count because of where the ballots that need to be counted are.
No Biden still likely wins, but it's still rather depressing yet somehow not shocking that Trump did as well as he did.

Arizona is the big news IMO (where you live right?). Hasn't been blue since 1996.
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People don't tend to vote for candidates they aren't excited for. If Trump wins, then at least we can get rid of the center of the Democratic party as they have failed miserably. Karma is a b after what they did to Bernie...

But the media in this country is also such a joke that I don't know how any of the big papers survive either other than constant Covid fear news. Weeks of Biden is up by 8 points dog shit which any sane person knew was wrong. Name one legit outlet that said Trump was going to win? You know what that does? It has a serious reverse effect.

And lastly, we're just a country full of really, really dumb people. Honestly, I don't even care who wins. This country gets what it deserves. Bernie is the guy we needed but not the one we deserved.
The Dems thought they could win by just being not Trump. They still may end up being right, but they made this needlessly close.
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Fuck me this is disheartening. Can’t believe this is my country. Can’t believe people can’t or won’t see Trump for what he is. My wife is pregnant and I’m legit scared to bring a brown baby into what I now know to be clearly a white man’s world.
Everything I’ve seen says that Trump lost white male support relative to 2016, and gained support among all other demographics. The gain in Latino support in Texas is the reason the state didn’t flip blue.
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The Dems thought they could win by just being not Trump. They still may end up being right, but they made this needlessly close.
Yep. Two types of voters. Ones that vote for a candidate because they aren't the other candidate and ones that vote for a candidate because they like them. Trump has both of those and Biden only has one.

Did anyone vote for Biden because they really liked him? Nope. He wasn't Bernie or Trump.
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So the Reps really tried to rig battlegrounds with help of the Postal Service...
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I have no Idea how you can defend all this obv garbage as Trump voter

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None of this is making sense as to why Trump and his supporters want the vote count to stop. If they stop counting now, then Biden wins. It's a simple as that. Biden is up in Nevada and has 275 at that point.

What am I missing here?
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None of this is making sense as to why Trump and his supporters want the vote count to stop. If they stop counting now, then Biden wins. It's a simple as that. Biden is up in Nevada and has 275 at that point.

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They want it to stop where he is still leading and to resume where he is trailing. Because they give a shit for democracy, the integrity of an election and a result of an election that they dont like or want. Thats all you need to know

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"What a sad night for the people in America. [...] Lies, and lies, and lies. [...] When he wins a state, it's legitimate, when he loses, the vote is being stolen from him."
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"What a sad night for the people in America. [...] Lies, and lies, and lies. [...] When he wins a state, it's legitimate, when he loses, the vote is being stolen from him."
To be fair, he even whined when he won the electoral college and lost the popular vote by 3million votes.

Now he's losing by 4.2million and he can't handle it.
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