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So the reality is that the Liberals have to somehow come up with a 2020 presidential candidate that is somehow better than even Obama was in 2008.
No, the reality is that liberals need to show the fuck up in 2018 -- Donald Trump would be completely toothless if the Republicans didn't have a majority in both Congress and Senate, in addition to the Supreme Court and State Governors. Conservatives aren't even close to being a majority in this country, but they keep winning everything because they're motivated enough to get out and vote.

If you look at the numbers, the clear majority in America today are non-voters, and most people don't vote because they don't think it makes any difference -- and with centrist Dems like Hillary supporting the same corporate oligarchy as the Republicans, they're absolutely right. If the Democrats want to start piling up victories, they need to give people something to vote FOR, rather than just voting against (because not every GOP candidate is going to be a pedophile)... And they can't just campaign on identity politics. No reason to abandon their platform of championing minorities, but in 2018 they need to present something tangible for the majority as well ("it's the economy, stupid!"), otherwise they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of knocking Trump off his perch in 2020.
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No, the reality is that liberals need to show the fuck up in 2018 -- Donald Trump would be completely toothless if the Republicans didn't have a majority in both Congress and Senate, in addition to the Supreme Court and State Governors. Conservatives aren't even close to being a majority in this country, but they keep winning everything because they're motivated enough to get out and vote.

If you look at the numbers, the clear majority in America today are non-voters, and most people don't vote because they don't think it makes any difference -- and with centrist Dems like Hillary supporting the same corporate oligarchy as the Republicans, they're absolutely right. If the Democrats want to start piling up victories, they need to give people something to vote FOR, rather than just voting against (because not every GOP candidate is going to be a pedophile)... And they can't just campaign on identity politics. No reason to abandon their platform of championing minorities, but in 2018 they need to present something tangible for the majority as well ("it's the economy, stupid!"), otherwise they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of knocking Trump off his perch in 2020.
I still think all of that falls in line with having a good candidate. There is nothing inherently wrong with being a centrist Democrat, but Hillary was just a bad candidate all around.

If you're going to run Mark Cuban, the facebook kid, or Oprah Winfrey against Trump, then he'll get another for years for sure.
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@jdawsey1: Today on Twitter: Trump taunted Kim Jong-Un and bragged about his nuclear button, called for potential prosecution of Huma Abedin and James Comey, threatened to strip Palestinian Authority funding, took credit for no airline deaths, attacked NYT, Democrats & vowed to build wall.
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It's a lot of fun now when they do the weekly Wednesday storm sirens hours after having a nuclear button pissing test.
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@CREWcrew: The voter fraud commission looks to end with more complaints filed against it than instances of voter fraud found

Reason to celebrate: Trump shuts down his phony voting integrity commission
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Stop questioning the president. He’s like, really smart.
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Drumpf ripping the NFL players as sons of bitches for kneeling and as Potus he doesnt know the text. lol

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100 7-Elevens raided by ICE. Wow. Yep, the terrorists work at 7-Eleven folks.
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Shitshow Potus with a shithole comment

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The IRS election-year quandary: When to boost Americans paychecks
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But that would come at a cost: smaller or even nonexistent refunds next year, though millions rely on them to plug holes in their family budgets. Democrats are already accusing the Trump administration of plotting "phantom windfalls" ahead of the November contest that will come back to haunt taxpayers next tax season.
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Steve Bannon to face House Russia investigators Tuesday
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@Khanoisseur: By the first year anniversary of his inauguration, Trump will have spent $75 million taxpayer dollars vacationing at/boosting his properties - that’s 187 years in POTUS salaries - and that’s not including taxpayer funded trips by his kids to India to boost Trump-branded projects.
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Republican President.
Republican House.
Republican Senate.

Blames Democrats for shutdown anyway...









@Mikel_Jollett:

TRUMP (2016): Mexico is paying for the wall!!

TRUMP (2017): OK, you're paying for the wall but Mexico will pay soon.

TRUMP (2018): Unless YOU pay for the wall, I'm shutting down the government!
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Sessions Is Interviewed in Mueller’s Russia Investigation
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So what was the betting line on his "i dont remember"? Over 9000?
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Mueller seeks to question Trump about Flynn and Comey departures
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@NatashaBertrand: To recap: Trump asked Comey for loyalty; asked him to drop the Flynn probe; fired Comey; pressured Sessions not to recuse; pressured Sessions to fire McCabe; pressured Coats, Rogers, Pompeo &multiple congressmen to say he wasnt under FBI investigation; and tried to fire Mueller.


Sounds like the acts of an innocent man...
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Doesn't matter. Trumpites cry fake news to any and every negative thing reported about him. They won't even bother listening to anything from the NY times. You could have indisputable evidence of Trump skinning a baby on camera, and they'd still do it. They get empowered from negative stuff said/reported about him.

We've been hearing that Trump is guilty for a year now and yet nothing really happens to where he'll be impeached.
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We've been hearing that Trump is guilty for a year now and yet nothing really happens to where he'll be impeached.
Patience -- it's no small thing to take down the president... Gotta get all of your ducks in a row because there are no second chances if you fail. It took 3 years to get Nixon, and his case was a lot more straightforward than Trump's.
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From the Navy SEAL who killed Osama Bin Laden...

@mchooyah: A military parade is third world bullshit. We prepare. We deter. We fight. Stop this conversation.
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The HUGE difference between Nixon and Trump is that Nixon actually did something impeachable.
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The HUGE difference between Nixon and Trump is that Nixon actually did something impeachable.
Colluding with Russia to rig an election isn't impeachable?
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Mueller indicts 13 Russian nationals over 2016 election interference
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