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Old 04-07-2016, 01:35 PM   #41
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You can say that about basically any big budget movie these days. And if you mention the Marvel movies, then you've lost me as those are now the most rehashed seen it over and over over stuff again and again. I'd rather see star wars stuff over marvel stuff. None of it is original. Like do you honestly think there will be anything original in Captain America Civil War? Wow, they even have spider man show up at the end! Never seen him before! Wish he'd get his own movie though since we haven't had any of those lately...
If you want to take the word "unoriginal" to such an extreme that there's no such thing as an original thought, then I guess I can't argue with you... But I'm talking about this kind of uninspired laziness:


Attack of the Clones


Revenge of the Sith


Rogue One


A New Hope


Return of the Jedi


The Force Awakens



I get it, the Death Star was awesome in A New Hope, but does it really need 3 movies of backstory before it inevitably gets blown up? Is there anything else awesome going on in this universe, or is that it? Because sphere-shaped superweapons are kinda played-out.

It's like they're admitting that they can't come up with anything better than A New Hope, so they keep orbiting that time period when Star Wars was fresh and new, rather than just making Star Wars fresh and new again (hence the Han Solo, Boba Fett and Obi Wan Kenobi spinoffs)... It's the laziest way to make a buck, but everyone seems to be comfortable that their standards are in the shitter (as you've basically admitted), so I guess Disney doesn't really have to try that hard to get your money.
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Hey you know, the death star was a grade a filet...not a mcrib. And it's kinda hard to out do a giant space station that destroys planets and/or entire solar systems. But the death star in too many movies...I'll give it to you.

Still, Rogue One looks badass either way.
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So it's good because it's popular? Is that where our standards are now? (/checks polls to see Donald Trump still leading the Republicans). Yep.

I mean, I'm sure the multi-billion dollar cinematic equivalent of McDonalds is going to do just fine without my money, but that doesn't mean I don't have the right to be offended with the uninspired cash grabs they've churned out over the last 2 decades.

But by all means, don't let me keep you from enjoying Star Wars: McRib One... I hear it's popular, so it must be good for you.
Honestly, with the exception of Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, I think the series has been pretty mediocre to bad. I'm not a Star Wars hater. I think Luke Skywalker and Han Solo kick some major butt... but the screenwriters simply need to do better.
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And Underdog has a point... popularity means little. Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are the two popular choices of the Democratic party? That's kinda pathetic.
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And Underdog has a point... popularity means little. Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are the two popular choices of the Democratic party? That's kinda pathetic.
That's a topic for a different thread, but I don't disagree with you.
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Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me over & over & over & over again since 1983, shame on my dumb ass for never growing up enough to spot a scam.

If I've learned anything over the years, it's that Star Wars banks hard on GenX's blind nostalgia to overhype their mediocre franchise and keep the cash flowing in... The brand has absolutely nothing new to offer at this point, that's why they're retreading prequel territory (again).

Hell, The Force Awakens was so unoriginal that they're still mining the old characters/plots for new movies. In addition to Rogue One, there's Han Solo, Boba Fett and Obi Wan Kenobi prequels in the works. I guess Emo Darth Vader Remix, Orange Yoda Chick, and iPhone Storm Troopers don't milk those nostalgia bucks like the original characters.
Disney wants to max out that 4 billion they banked on the franchise. What is it, a new flick each year for the next 5 years? Rogue One, Part 8, Han Solo, Part 9, Boba Fett. Crazy. Today it's not about what you produce....but the money you earn. You have companies buying out mom and pop because they are afraid of competition, so the product suffers.....just like the Star Wars franchise....you get these 2 advertising legends to feed you trailers all year, commercials every hour....print ads every where you look.....
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Finally watched it a second time, became even more aware of how completely unoriginal this steaming pile of crap was... They straight-up lifted ANH's and a bit of ESB's scripts, beat-for-beat:


ANH/TFA Plot Summary

- Leia/Poe gives droid important intel to give to the rebels.

- Darth Vader/Kylo Ren shows up and kills one of the rebels while asking for the plans.

- Leia/Poe is then captured by Darth Vader/Kylo Ren and tortured.

- The droid reaches our hero Luke/Rey who now needs to leave the desert planet Tattooine/Jakku.

- They end up meeting an old mentor/hero Ben/Han, who tells them that the Jedi were hunted down and destroyed by young apprentice, Darth Vader/Kylo Ren.

- He takes them to a cantina so they can get safe passage to the rebels, but the Death Star/Starkiller blows up rebel planet and now they need to infiltrate the Death Star/Starkiller to rescue Leia/Rey.

- Ben/Han confronts his apprentice/son Darth Vader/Kylo Ren, who kills him while the heroes escape.

- The Death Star/Starkiller is about to blow up the rebel planet, but the rebels do a trench run on the Death Star/Starkiller and blow it up.

- As this happens Darth Vader/Kylo Ren realizes Luke/Rey’s Force abilities.

- Luke/Rey realizes he/she needs to go to the last remaining Jedi who is hiding on a remote planet in seclusion.


HOW CAN ANYONE CONSIDER THIS TO BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A BLATANT RIPOFF??
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It's a ripoff In the way that the heroes journey is retold. Is O Brother Where Art Though a rip off of the Odyssey? The idea of balance to the universe and spiraling storylines are built into the almost Shinto religion of the Jedis. It's about connecting to the past. Is it any surprise that we see a new story with parallels to the repeating stories?

Americans have the idea of ripping off ideas way off. It's about iteration and revision. People have been riffing on older stories since we first started telling stories.
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It's a ripoff In the way that the heroes journey is retold. Is O Brother Where Art Though a rip off of the Odyssey? The idea of balance to the universe and spiraling storylines are built into the almost Shinto religion of the Jedis. It's about connecting to the past. Is it any surprise that we see a new story with parallels to the repeating stories?

Americans have the idea of ripping off ideas way off. It's about iteration and revision. People have been riffing on older stories since we first started telling stories.
If the Cohens wrote and directed a movie of the Odyssey, then made O Brother Where Art Thou as a sequel, your point might be relevant... Seriously, read my last post again and tell me JarJar Abrams didn't just copy/paste the script of A New Hope. You don't have to repeat the same story to play on nostalgia, you just need to bring back all the characters that we already know & love. Repeating the same story is just LAZY and fails to capture the wonder that made Star Wars worth a damn in the first place. Even the godawful prequels managed to introduce new ideas and themes to the franchise -- TFA does neither.

If this is what passes for quality entertainment in America, then maybe we deserve whatever hell Hillary or Trump are about to unleash on us -- obviously we're just simple-minded children who don't know any better (or at best, we don't care!)
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And then there's Rogue One doing reshoots because "it didnt measure up to the bar set in terms of four-quadrant appeal."

Might as well just give their focus groups a writing credit at this point...
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And then there's Rogue One doing reshoots because "it didnt measure up to the bar set in terms of four-quadrant appeal."

Might as well just give their focus groups a writing credit at this point...
That's because Gareth Edwards doesn't understand pace. Monsters and Godzilla were solid efforts, but both movies really drag in parts. This doesn't surprise me one bit.
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That's because Gareth Edwards doesn't understand pace. Monsters and Godzilla were solid efforts, but both movies really drag in parts. This doesn't surprise me one bit.
Great hire! He probably only got the job because he's a bitch who will do whatever the studio tells him to... Hell, it's still not too late for the suits to turn Rogue One into an Ewoks: The Battle for Endor remix -- I bet it would make a billion dollars anyway.
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@bobbykaralla: Dirk said he's never watched a single Star Wars movie. So yeah...


Or should I post this in the Dirk Is Great Thread?

(also, wtf? how??)
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And then there's Rogue One doing reshoots because "it didnt measure up to the bar set in terms of four-quadrant appeal."

Might as well just give their focus groups a writing credit at this point...
40% of the film is being overhauled for the final cut.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Rogue...st-134887.html
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If you want to take the word "unoriginal" to such an extreme that there's no such thing as an original thought, then I guess I can't argue with you
I just happened to listen to this one the other day. Very interesting observations that ... nothing is original.

Ted Radio Hour - What Is Original?
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Tapping the brakes on the bs click bait rumors...

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It's a ripoff In the way that the heroes journey is retold. Is O Brother Where Art Though a rip off of the Odyssey? The idea of balance to the universe and spiraling storylines are built into the almost Shinto religion of the Jedis. It's about connecting to the past. Is it any surprise that we see a new story with parallels to the repeating stories?

Americans have the idea of ripping off ideas way off. It's about iteration and revision. People have been riffing on older stories since we first started telling stories.
Here's the problem... It's one thing to borrow liberally in a manner such as O Brother Where Art Thou and the Odyssey... It's a completely different thing to do so within the same movie franchise....
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Here's the problem... It's one thing to borrow liberally in a manner such as O Brother Where Art Thou and the Odyssey... It's a completely different thing to do so within the same movie franchise....
That's a fair point, but I think Jurassic World did the same thing. I mean, the Indominus Rex is basically the Spinosaurus from part 3. They sell the IR as being part Raptor and what not, but it's essentially still the same idea of being a bigger, badder T-Rex.

But yes, TFA is basically SW 4, 5, and 6 wrapped up into one movie. But you know, those three movies are arguably the best trilogy of all time. To completely damn a movie for wanting to be those is a bit misguided when your goal is to make billions off of a single film. And after the horrible prequels, it was almost a given that the franchise was going to emulate what people liked and wanted. And why pretend that Star Wars isn't a well oiled corporate franchise? Anything that becomes as popular as Star Wars goes the same route of cha ching cha ching.

And being unoriginal doesn't equate to being bad and being original doesn't equate to being good. TFA was still a decent movie, imo, original or not. And the main characters Rey, Ren, and Finn are all reasonably different from what we've seen in the past.
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I know that there's a lot of Star Wars nostalgia..but 4, 5, and 6 are definitely not the best trilogy of all time... LOTR is definitely better. Episode VI was a pretty decent misstep. It was still a quality movie, but it definitely drags it down below LOTR.

As for TFA, it was enjoyable regardless whether or not it borrowed liberally from its predecessors. But, I can see how that would definitely bother some quite a bit. It was a pretty good movie. I was let down..I expected better. I'm not a huge Star Wars guy, but the hype was so insane that I expected a really good movie. Instead, it was a pretty good movie..enjoyable. There's nothing wrong with that. I accept it for what it is. Fortunately for TFA, the previous three movies set the bar incredibly low. A pretty good movie was obviously going to be received as greatness because the episodes 1, 2, and 3 were so mediocre on the whole.
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LOTR is seriously the most boring series of movies ever.
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Obviously, I disagree... But even boring is far better than Ewoks.
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LOTR is seriously the most boring series of movies ever.
Bad troll is bad. Nice try pal.
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